: 23 to 24 million more acres of wilderness proposed in five western states


CleElum Sledhead
02-17-2009, 07:53 PM
In case you folks are interested, I thought I would post one of our SAWS alert regarding HR980.

http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/09/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_NREPA_introduced_in_111th_Congress.htm

SAWS Action Alert: Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act introduced in the 111th Congress

SAWS Members,

Here we go again, this time during the 111th Congress (2009 - 2010), with this insane bill called the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA). This bill has once again been introduced by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-New York.

“The plan would forbid most development across broad swaths of public land in the five states. It calls for the removal of more than 6,000 miles of existing roads, primarily within national forests. Old logging roads would be removed, and habitat restored in most of those areas, creating about 2,300 jobs and leading to a more sustainable economic base in the region, said Michael Garrity, executive director of the Montana-based Alliance for the Wild Rockies, an advocacy group.”

NREPA would create another 23 to 24 million more acres of wilderness in five western states (Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming). Yes, I used the word “create”, as much of the public land included in NREPA - which would be designated as wilderness through this bill - is NOT remotely close to meeting the requirements of the Wilderness Act of 1964. Since when did “6000 miles of roads” qualify for wilderness? And if there are “6000 miles of roads” within the proposed wilderness areas, then I can virtually guarantee that there are numerous other man-made structures within these proposed wilderness areas too that do not qualify as wilderness.

Numerous statements regarding NREPA by various individuals attempt to jump on the ever so popular “stimulate the economy” bandwagon by claiming NREPA would create thousands of new jobs. I guess they must have forgotten about that thousands of lost jobs that will result from locking up millions of acres of public land from most multiple-use activities and the loss of jobs from businesses that profit and employees that earn a living from catering to those multiple-use activities.

Link to Rep. Carolyn Maloney’s Press Release:
http://maloney.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1787&Itemid=61

Rep. Maloney’s NREPA bill has been introduced every year since 1993, but it has thankfully in these past years never had enough support in Congress to pass and be signed by the president, which would then become law. Could this year be different? It is certainly possible with the newly elected individuals in Congress and the White House this year, who happen to be much more supportive of additional wilderness designations, so this bill could have the support it needs in this Congress to become law.

The fact that Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz, is a co-sponsor of NREPA this year is also certainly not good news for the public who enjoys mechanized recreation on public lands. Rep. Grijalva is the Chairman of the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands. This subcommittee falls under control of the Committee on Natural Resources, which is chaired by Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., who, according to the article below, and along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Ca., have both been indicated their support of NREPA in past years. This year sure seems to be lining up to be a snowmobilers worst nightmare when it comes to access – or lack there of – to our public lands.

NREPA is the grand daddy of all wilderness bills. This bill proposes to implement large portions of the "Yellowstone to Yukon Initiative" or also referred to as "The Wildlands Project", and as previously stated, it would designate somewhere between 23 and 24 million MORE acres as wilderness in the states of Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming. Do you enjoy snowmobiling in any of these states? If the answer is yes, then you do not want to see this bill become law.

Link to a general map (without detail boundary lines shown) of the proposed new wilderness areas (dark green):
http://www.wildrockies.org/nrepa/assets/pix/brochure/mapbig.jpg

Read the entire bill at this link:
http://maloney.house.gov/documents/environment/20090129_NREPA.pdf

Link to look up the contact information for your representative:
Lookup your U.S. House Representative

The following members on the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands are especially important to contact if they are your representative in Congress.

Mr. Raúl M. Grijalva, Arizona, Chairman
Mr. Rob Bishop, Utah, Ranking Republican Member

Democrats
Dale E. Kildee, Michigan
Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii
Grace F. Napolitano, California
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey
Madeleine Z. Bordallo, Guam
Dan Boren, Oklahoma
Martin Heinrich, New Mexico
Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon
Maurice D. Hinchey, New York
Donna M. Christensen, Virgin Islands
Diana DeGette, Colorado
Ron Kind, Wisconsin
Lois Capps, California
Jay Inslee, Washington
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, South Dakota
John P. Sarbanes, Maryland
Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire
Niki Tsongas, Massachusetts
Pedro R. Pierluisi, Puerto Rico
Nick J. Rahall, II, West Virginia (ex officio)

Republicans
Don Young, Alaska
Elton Gallegly, California
John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee
Jeff Flake, Arizona
Henry E. Brown, Jr., South Carolina
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania
Robert J. Wittman, Virginia
Paul C. Broun, Georgia
Mike Coffman, Colorado
Cynthia M. Lummis, Wyoming
Tom McClintock, California
Doc Hastings, Washington (ex officio)

Link to our previous SAWS Alert on NREPA from October 2007:
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/07/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_Hearing_on_Northern_Rockies_Ecosystem_Protection_ Act.htm


There is not much in this year’s version of the NREPA bill that has changed since our previous SAWS alert in 2007. The bill in this year’s Congress WILL have a different bill number. As of today, it does not appear that a bill number has been assigned yet. Edit: this bill is now HR980!

Please write your representative to let them know that you are opposed to this bill and why. I have not included a deadline in this alert, as it is currently not scheduled for a hearing, but it is always best to contact your representative sooner rather than later.

Thank you in advance for acting on the recommendation in this alert.


Dave
Snowmobile Alliance of Western States

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Associated Press Article:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_northern_rockies_wilderness.html

Bill would designate 23M acres of wilderness
By MATTHEW DALY
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

WASHINGTON -- A New York congresswoman has again introduced a wide-reaching wilderness protection bill that would ban logging, oil exploration and other development on 23 million acres across five Northwestern states.

As in previous years, the proposal by Democratic Rep. Carolyn Maloney drew criticism from some Western lawmakers who view it as an intrusion on their turf. The Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act would designate millions of new wilderness acreage in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, and add smaller amounts of wilderness in eastern Oregon and eastern Washington.

No member of Congress from any of the five states has agreed to co-sponsor the bill, which Maloney has pushed in Congress since 1993. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., is a co-sponsor of the latest version. The bill would create 9.5 million acres of new wilderness in Idaho, 7 million acres in Montana, 5 million acres in Wyoming, 750,000 acres in northeastern Oregon and 500,000 acres in eastern Washington.

Rep. Denny Rehberg, R-Mont., called the bill a "top-down approach" that does not account for impacts on the local economy or adequately protect access for hunting, fishing and other forms of recreation.

"Montana doesn't need Washington, D.C. imposing its will and telling us how to take care of our public lands," Rehberg said. "We're going to fight this. As a state that's almost one-third public lands, we have no choice."

Maloney, who represents New York City, said the bill would protect some of America's most beautiful and ecologically important lands while saving money and creating jobs.

"Many of America's most precious natural resources and wildlife are found in the Northern Rockies," she said, adding that the wilderness proposal "would help protect those resources by drawing wilderness boundaries according to science, not politics."

The measure would also mitigate the effect of climate change on wildlife by protecting corridors that allow grizzly bears, caribou, elk, bison, wolves and other wildlife to migrate to cooler areas, she said.

The plan would forbid most development across broad swaths of public land in the five states. It calls for the removal of more than 6,000 miles of existing roads, primarily within national forests. Old logging roads would be removed, and habitat restored in most of those areas, creating about 2,300 jobs and leading to a more sustainable economic base in the region, said Michael Garrity, executive director of the Montana-based Alliance for the Wild Rockies, an advocacy group.

The wilderness measure has been introduced every Congress for nearly two decades, but has only twice made it so far as a public hearing - in 1994 and in 2007.

A significant number of Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, spoke favorably of the bill in 2007, and even more lawmakers from both parties are likely to back the bill this year, Garrity said.

"We think we're making tremendous progress. We have a new president who is much more supportive of wilderness, and we think we have an excellent chance" of winning congressional approval, Garrity said.

A key argument in favor of the bill is a plan to dismantle old logging roads and restore habitat in many areas that have been clear-cut by logging, Garrity said. "This bill puts people to work" in a manner reminiscent of the old Civilian Conservation Corps created in the New Deal, he said.

Kurtuleas
02-17-2009, 09:11 PM
How in the hell would that CREATE 2,300 jobs?

Someone please tell me. :shaking:

Wayne_Nosala
02-17-2009, 10:37 PM
How in the hell would that CREATE 2,300 jobs?

Someone please tell me. :shaking:


Kurt, That is the sham they wilderness folks sell the lawmakers, And they buy into it.

And they attemted the sham on the angry mob meetings I attended

They claim Trona (Of all places) will be tranformed into PalmSprings
tourist town. The local ecomomy will be a boom if they turn the surrounding
Slate / Argus Ranges to wilderness.

:eek:

They also tell lawmakers there is no opposition to wilderness, Same as the
automated letter today from Fienstien, one of many I have recieved.

I fail to see how locking up lands from puclic and private industry can
have the any remote possbility of economic gain from these rediculus
land grabs

Wayne Nosala

Jeepndel
02-18-2009, 07:45 AM
You gotta love "spin." That is where we need to increase our training and skills -- how we spin things no matter how the truth falls out. That sounds like a toilet, huh? Let things spin until the truth flushes and only the "clean" water is left. Yikes. Ugly thought. I'm not sure I'm cut out for that.

On the other hand, proper spinning IS THE KEY to marketing. And we can do a lot more spinning on our side while still leaving the truth in tact (floating).

Del

TheTonka
03-03-2009, 12:58 PM
They claim Trona (Of all places) will be tranformed into PalmSprings
tourist town. The local ecomomy will be a boom if they turn the surrounding
Slate / Argus Ranges to wilderness.



TRONA? :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing::laughing:

:eek:

They also tell lawmakers there is no opposition to wilderness, Same as the
automated letter today from Fienstien, one of many I have recieved.

I fail to see how locking up lands from puclic and private industry can
have the any remote possbility of economic gain from these rediculus
land grabs

Wayne Nosala

We have no representation, they all feel they have mandates to implement THEIR personal view of OUR future.

CleElum Sledhead
04-26-2009, 08:56 AM
Getting closer.


In February 2009, our members received a SAWS Action Alert regarding the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA) that had been recently reintroduced in the 111th Congress by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-New York. This new NREPA bill in this Congress is HR980.

Please review our previous alert from February 2009 at this link:

http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/09/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_NREPA_introduced_in_111th_Congress.htm

Recently, SAWS has been informed by Brian Hawthorne at the BlueRibbon Coalition, that there may be a committee hearing on NREPA the first week of May. This will not be the first time this legislation has had a committee hearing, but it is important that our elected representatives know how we feel about this lousy legislation. If you did not contact your U.S. Representative last February, or even if you did, it is important that you contact them again within the next week and tell them you do not support this legislation!

Lookup your U.S. House Representative:
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

NREPA will affect significant acreage (23 -24 millions acres) across the Intermountain and Western states of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming as shown in the maps provided at this link:
http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/issues/nrepa/mapIndex.shtml

Here is a link to the tracking summary:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-980

You may also wish to take a few minutes to listen to SAWS chairman, Dave Hurwitz' interview with Lee Hinkelman in regards to the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act. Dave makes excellent points on the distinction of what wilderness is as opposed to publicly managed lands. There is also mention of how stimulus monies are directed at tearing up 6000 miles of roads. Lee broadcasts from New York but recognizes the values we all hold with the power of our voice to our senators and representatives nationwide. NREPA will affect the entire country in some manner not just within the states where actual closures are proposed primarily in the West. Click on segments 3 and 4 from the Weekend of February 21, 2009 once you have linked to the connection:

http://www.bigfrog104.com/TipsforBetterLiving/SnowmobileOneidaCounty/SnowmobileShow/tabid/3397/Default.aspx

Some of our newer SAWS members may also wish to review our SAWS alert from October 2007, just in case this is the first time you have heard about this outrageous legislation. SAWS has been opposing this legislation and informing our members about this proposal for many years:

http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/07/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_Hearing_on_Northern_Rockies_Ecosystem_Protection_ Act.htm

If not you, then who else will help stop this insanity?


Janine Stewart
Montana SAWS rep
Snowmobile Alliance of Western States

4x4n Elkaholic daWg
04-26-2009, 10:39 AM
Good to see that you're on this forum now keeping most all motorized users informed on this sort of BS. I was just going to paste that myself. Jim

blindmonkey
04-28-2009, 04:17 PM
the hearing is on may 5th-
the link below is to the arra-"americans for responsible recreation access"

please take the time to read about this bill, and contact your local congressman

and voice your opinion!

please help us keep our lands open!

http://www.arra-access.com/campaign/advocacy_oppose_hr980/35dws73ryj6dk3b5?#

much of this land is right out our back door!
here is a link http://www.pinedaleonline.com/#nrepa
from our paper here in wyoming-
all of this makes us SICK!

4x4n Elkaholic daWg
05-01-2009, 11:47 AM
possibly a little helpful info


Join Date: Jan 2009
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Attention Everyone!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This isn't the first we have heard of this proposed act but I got an e-mail today saying there is going to be a meeting for it on the 5th of May here is what the e-mail said:


Subject: Re: NREPA hearing scheduled -- spread the word

All,
During the omnibus fight, one of the groups BRC worked with was AMA
(American Motorcyclist Association). In addition to their first-rate
D.C. based staff, I worked with Nick Haris, AMA's Western rep. Nick and
I worked on a variety of things, including press relations and providing
"friendly" congressional staff with facts and info they could use.

Nick and I quickly realized that one thing our community needs to
improve on is personalizing the loss of recreational access. Put a face
on the closures, so to speak.

Nick and the gang at AMA have volunteered to collect specific examples
of areas and trails that will be lost if NREPA is passed. I was hopeful
you all would also consider this a worthwhile effort, and consider this
a "URGENT INFO CALL."

To be of most use to BRC and AMA's reps in D.C., the motorized and
mountain bike uses should be approved by the current management plan,
with extra credit for areas with designated trail systems or groomed
snowmobile trails. Pics of responsible riders with smiling faces also
useful.

We will have time to compile information, but we'll need to collect some
good examples by the May 5th hearing. Maps are here.
http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/i...mapIndex.shtml

Please call Nick or me if you need additional info.

Thanks!
Brian H.
208-390-5770

Nick Haris
530-626-4250

There are a lot of areas that could get closed down if the bill passes!!!!
__________________

4Mogger
05-01-2009, 11:55 AM
We need these Liberals in Congress to give us restriction free abortions and gay marriage. If we lose our guns and land access in the process, it is a small price to pay for FREEDOM!
:GARY:

4x4n Elkaholic daWg
05-06-2009, 12:05 PM
From Mt. Rep. Denny Rehberg, who's constituants are in this bills crosshairs.


Rehberg 1
Testimony of Congressman Denny Rehberg (MT-At Large)
Opposing the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act
Tuesday, May 05, 2009
Committee on Natural Resources
Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands

Chairman Grijalva, Ranking Member Bishop, thanks for allowing me to return to
the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands to testify again on behalf
of the people of Montana.


I’m here representing county commissioners, state representatives, ranchers,
timber workers, sportsmen and women and recreationalists who have expressed their
opposition to the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act in letters, faxes, emails,
survey responses and even a rapidly growing Facebook group. All told, I’ve heard from
almost 10,000 folks who live in the Northern Rockies – who consider the land at issue in
the legislation we are discussing today to be their home. It’s where they live, work and
raise a family.
I’m here to report that more than 96% of us who live in these areas oppose this
bill. In my years of public service – beginning in the state legislature, then as Montana’s
Lieutenant Governor and now as the sole Representative in the House, I can think of few
subjects that have evoked such a unified opposition.
If Congress wants to, it can ignore these concerns and pass NREPA without their
consent and without a single vote from any of their Congressional Representatives. The
land NREPA federalizes is represented by only 7 Members of Congress including myself;
far fewer than the 72 current cosponsors of the bill. Congress can just say it’s
inconvenient that none of those 72 cosponsors are from the districts that NREPA impacts.
Recently, Congress passed the Omnibus Lands Act, which created over 2 million
acres of new wilderness, this bill carves out more than 24 million acres of new
wilderness. That area is larger than any of the districts represented by the 72 cosponsors
of the bill. In fact, out of 435 Congressional Districts, only 18 are larger. Representative
Carolyn Maloney – who is the lead sponsor of this bill – could fit her New York district
into the new wilderness created by NREPA almost 3,000 times.
And while you may have the votes to force your will on the people who live in the
Northern Rockies, I’m here to tell you that doing so isn’t in anyone’s best interest. Not
the folks who live on this land, and not the people you were elected to represent. It’s not
even in the best interest of the ecosystems we all want to protect.
Let me be absolutely clear about something. The folks I represent support
responsible land conservation. Currently, there are more than 30 million acres of state
and federal land in Montana alone - that’s nearly one acre in every three. As a state
where lifestyles and livelihoods depend on the land we live upon, it’s one of our top
priorities. And we do an outstanding job.
To manage these lands, stake-holders come to the table and formulate consensusdriven
solutions at the local level. The federal government could learn a lot from
examples in my state that center around three words: cooperation, trust and consensus.
For example, the Undaunted Stewardship approach demonstrates the ability of farm and
ranch families to contribute to the preservation of open space and scenic beauty while
continuing to use the land for productive purposes.
Rehberg 2
For the Montanans who work, till, graze, hunt, fish, hike, camp and enjoy this
land, conservation is not only a daily personal choice; it’s our way of life. Real
conservation isn’t about making tough decisions for someone else who lives thousands of
miles away, yet that’s exactly what NREPA does.
The workable solutions we need won’t come from Washington, D.C.; we need to
reach a balance that truly reflects Montana not the ideals of powerful special interests.
From Washington, D.C., it’s impossible to smell the toxic smoke from hundreds
of raging wildfires that will be harder to fight if NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., it’s impossible to see the 1.6 million-plus acres of dead
and dying trees that result from pine beetle infestations that will be more difficult to
manage if NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., you can’t watch a hillside change colors as indigenous
plants are slowly strangled out of existence by toxic weeds that are impossible to fight
once NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., you can’t hear the frustration in the voice of a hunter or
angler who can no longer get to the secluded mountain ridge where his family has gone
for generations once NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., you can’t walk on the overgrazed lands once managed
by ranchers who can no longer take their open range livestock to new pastures once
NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., Congress pushes for alternative energy from wind and
the sun. But how can we get that power, and create green jobs in the process, if we can’t
build transmission grids across our lands once NREPA passes?
And there’s a new concern looming in the minds of the folks around Montana and
the country. There aren’t many things folks in the Northern Rockies care more about
than their Second Amendment rights. Bills like NREPA create more federally controlled
land, but they don’t guarantee Second Amendment rights on that land. The recent
decision to eliminate Second Amendment Rights on some federal lands is nothing more
than back-door gun control, and it’s not hard to imagine wilderness as the next target for
restricted gun access. I’m concerned that NREPA has no guarantees that the federal
government won’t someday ban guns on other federal lands the way it just did in
National Parks.
At the end of the day, this is about Washington, D.C. thinking it knows how to
manage the Northern Rockies better than the people who live there. I’m here to say this
isn’t the case.
Many of Representative Maloney’s constituents in New York’s 14th District
undoubtedly find Central Park a welcome refuge from the urban surroundings of
America’s most crowded city. A Montanan who visited Central Park recently shared an
observation with me: Although Central Park was free of buildings and streets, many of
the open spaces were cordoned off by fences. Visitors could walk or run on centrally
planned pathways, but the fields of grass around them were off limits. NREPA models
its philosophy for 24 million acres of land after the approach taken in the 843 acres of
Central Park. Look, but don’t touch.
This approach may work in Manhattan, New York, but it doesn’t work in
Manhattan, Montana. I can’t stress how crucial that distinction is, and that’s why I
oppose this bill.



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For all testimony on May 5....go here (hopefully it works)

www.resourcescommittee.house.gov/index.php?option=com_jcalpro&Itemid=32&extmode=day&date=2009-05-05