Base vehicle is a 1988 ford ranger extendo cab. Factory 2.9, mazda 5 speed, 1350 electric case, and garbage axles.


Going to run to 4wheel parts and grab the biggest lift kit I can tomorrow. I am thinking like 12" lift and like 35" tires.
























Build will be basic....

Dana 44 front 5.13's detroit, ford 9" rear 5.13's welded, 37 irocs, 1350-54 doubler, 57" ford springs out back, radius arms and air shocks up front.

This build will be slow as fawk, because I am broke as fawk...:flipoff2::flipoff2:

I guess I am now committed, because I started bobbing the bed today. Maybe I will just rally a stocker with a bobbed bed though.:homer:


And for the peanut gallery, I am building my truck my way. So suck it. :flipoff2: I know what I should do, My wallet knows what I will do.:(

the tech this thread brings is overwhelming :flipoff2:

Its going to be a pretty boring build actually.....:flipoff2:

Some one might like it, and if not... I will delete it.

drop the 9" plan and just go 8 lug from the start
a d70 from 83-85
and for the cheapness we will let you run an 8 lug d44 for a little while

this will save you having to whine about the d60f being 8 lug and you having spiffy rims that are 5 lug like all the Heepers do

I'm just shocked that you are finally building something! Best of luck Jeremy! Let me know if you want a hand.......Im too broke to rebuild my rig yet again and have the itch to work on someone else's rig.

this build sucks already..... no pictures ? no shitheaps? no rusty parts?

I have some really weak gm dana 44 flattops. I'm not using them because I found some f150 flattops. They take gm brakes that's why I'm not running them. Both knuckles are drilled and tapped too. That would help with your draglink angle.

Also, I'm considering making some steering arms for my bronco. I would rather make a few sets to keep cost per unit down.

Are you going to use 9" coils or leaf springs?

Basevehicleisa1988fordrangerextendocab.Factory2.9, mazda5speed,1350electriccase,andgarbage axles.Goingtorunto4wheelpartsandgrabthebiggestlift kitIcantomorrow.I amthinkinglike12"liftandlike35"tires.Build will be basic....Dana44front5.13'sdetroit,ford9"rear5.13'swelded,37irocs,1350-54doubler,57"fordspringsoutback,radiusarmsandairshocksupfront.T hisbuildwillbeslowasfawk,becauseIambrokeasfawk...: flipoff2::flipoff2:I guessIamnowcommitted,becauseIstartedbobbingthebedt oday.MaybeIwill justrallyastockerwithabobbedbedthough.:homer:Andfo rthepeanutgallery,Iambuildingmytruckmyway.Sosuckit . :flipoff2:IknowwhatIshoulddo,Mywalletknowswhat I will do.:(

I don't like your tone, it seems very disrespectful.






















:flipoff2:

Its going to be a pretty boring build actually.....:flipoff2:

It might be for us if you don't get another red star. You know the rules.....





























pics or it didn't happen. :flipoff2:

Sounds good, brokeass budget builds are my favorite. Neccessity is the motherfawker of invention.

Ok, ok..... this is all I have so far. Everyone has seen a bed bobbed though.:flipoff2:

Initial layout, first cut.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0218091225a.jpg

Bigger pic...
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0218091225.jpg

Bottom is cut and rolled...
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0218091855.jpg

Starting the inside cuts...
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0218091856.jpg

More inside....
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0218091902.jpg

That's all for now.

I am cutting 14"s out of the rear and raising it 9.5"s from the lowest part.
Not dovetailing at this time.



LMFAO, heres a titty pic..... Will that make me cool too??


















































http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/l_56dd4f597519a838f364344bfa5f279a.gif

looks like a plan

damn I can never read anything passed that lil asian dish image

aaggghhhh it is like Kryponite

Yes, bewbers are always cool.

hey look! its almost my truck. Factory truck, bobbed bed. :laughing:

At least someone is getting somewhere. Somehow im broke as fuck all the time...:confused::laughing:

hey look! its almost my truck. Factory truck, bobbed bed. :laughing:

At least someone is getting somewhere. Somehow im broke as fuck all the time...:confused::laughing:

Try bobbing your girlfriend, that way your pay check wont rub:grinpimp:

Hey Jeremy, glad to see your starting a build :smokin: What ever happened to that F350 you were gonna tear into?

I tore into it.....


Got some more done on the bed today. Still need some parts though. SLOW BUILD.:flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:

I will post the pics later tonight...






FAWK, I almost forgot. SCORED THE ULTIMATE FREEBIE TODAY....

Its a cheapo, but it was free... Chicago electric 220 mig welder.

drop the 9" plan and just go 8 lug from the start
a d70 from 83-85
and for the cheapness we will let you run an 8 lug d44 for a little while

this will save you having to whine about the d60f being 8 lug and you having spiffy rims that are 5 lug like all the Heepers do
Plus if you run 8 lug you can run your favorite HUMMER riims....:D:D:D

:flipoff2:

:flipoff2:

Yeah, the aluminum H2s. And there's that attitude again.

Radius arms....stock or extended? What brand or home extendo?

The radius arms will get there own build thread.:D

All these fawk stick, bleach drinking, blender humping, retards.... That swear an extended radius arm will bend, will eat some cawwwwk.

Biatches beware, I am gonna put Cage to shame. :p



Hey Kieth......:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Theres some attitude... lmao

This build is going to suck.

What happened to taking all the parts and axles out of the F350?

This build is going to suck.

What happened to taking all the parts and axles out of the F350?

I am broke, and I have to pay for my house fawker......:flipoff2:

Wife is barely letting me do this at all.






















The 6o will come, be patient.:smokin:

What about the 10.25 out back? I expect to see that big white pig sitting on concrete blocks soon. bringin the white trash to s.c. lol

Blocks.....?? Dude we use LOGS out here. Ask White Rhino......:flipoff2:

oh shit. :laughing: make sure to remind me to never let you jack up my truck while im working underneath it

fuck yea man im drunkkkk:flipoff2:

Ok, I will use a 60 and a 10.25....

Hey Mike... I know the 2.9 is a dog, but I like mine and it runs good. Being you run one as well, this question is for you.

Are 5.13's enough to run 40" tires with the 2.9?? I still need it to go down the road too though.

id go with 5.38s. Your already in there spending the money, get all you can out of it. i had my 5.13s and 40s with my 4.9L and it did well, but i always wanted more. Im doing 5.38s 40s and a 351 this time. :grinpimp: use the 5.38s

mine drove down the road perfect with 5.13s and 38s. and lots of power in reserve

i though you were posting pics of the sic side exhaust forget sectioning the bed. At least your working on it it will be done before I get my 60 fixed.

I have 5.38 with 39.5s and it works perfect with the 2.9.

i have 5.38's 38.5's and a 2.9 works great but would love to have a 4.0

Cool guys... 5.38's it is.

Anyone running into pinion probs with that small of a pinion?? Going to order gears today or tomorrow, need to get my axles pulled and ready for gears.

Goint to tear into the 1 tons today, to get my rear spring brackets and shackles.

I will get some pics posted soon.

I don't think I like your attitude! :flipoff2:

HUMMER rims? So what! :flipoff2:

the shaft size dose not change with the gear ratio. It still uses the same size pinion yoke nut (1. 5/16 ) and the bearing size is sill also the same. So really you will be fine running the 5.38s.

Its cool, I wasnt worried about the pinion shaft. The ONLY pinions I have broken, broke in the actual gear teeth (( pinion head ))...

Broke a chrysler 9.25 with 4.56's, welded and 37" tires.

Broke a Toyota 8" with 5.29's and 38" tires.

Both of them broke in the same place more or less.

Anyways, got a little bit done today...

No pics yet. But soon.

dam it happened again
I know there are updates to this thread but I cant get passed the asian dancing girl to see them :(

dam SVT 5.38 with a with that i6? what did that top out at ??

Well, I have been busy as fawk... Trying to build and get my mess cleaned up and sell parts.

So, the tech in this build is OLD SCHOOL for now... It will get better once I get to the front end.

I have the shackle mounts plated and ready to go, I am debating plating the shackles as well...??

Front spring hangers still need to be plated.

Springs need to be taken apart and re worked.

Need to make shock mounts and a rear drive line still.

Need to finish welding the bed up.

Need to make a rear cross member and cut the end of the frame off.

I need to buy some fawking cutting torches... This sawzall and cut off wheel shit SUCKS...

dam SVT 5.38 with a with that i6? what did that top out at ??

the six had 5.13s and 39s - it was a good ratio - it would go fast enough to scare the shit out of ya

the 5.38s are for the new rig

I need to buy some fawking cutting torches... This sawzall and cut off wheel shit SUCKS...

I love my cutting torch, makes cutting through 1" thick steel no problem :smokin:

Here are some pics... Sorry about all the cell phone pics. It sucks stopping to take pics at all........:p

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/JeremyFordRangerBuild010.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/JeremyFordRangerBuild012.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0226091446a.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0226091446b.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0224090917.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0224090917a.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0226091445.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0226092156.jpg

dam SVT 5.38 with a with that i6? what did that top out at ??

with the 6, 5.13s, 40" boggers, and the 5 speed it would do 90+. Over that, it got scary. :laughing:


NORCAL, MORE PICS FAWKER. :flipoff2:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/0226092156.jpg

I think your pinion angle may be a little off:D

not bad dawg

you suck because your pictures are fuzzy and poorly lit.









:flipoff2:

you suck because your pictures are fuzzy and poorly lit.









:flipoff2:

OOO I see. You were one of those kids that just LIKED to get your ass kicked in school EH?

OOO I see. You were one of those kids that just LIKED to get your ass kicked in school EH?

does this mean you're gonna kick my ass?

does this mean you're gonna kick my ass?

Check it out.


Get the fuck outta my build with this bull shit.:shaking:

does this mean you're gonna kick my ass?

:shaking: Leave the clown comments to the clowns. Sit on your hands and be quiet for awhile.

Jeremy, what rod did you use to weld the tubes on the 10.25? Pre-heat? Gotta do it myself soon.

:shaking: Leave the clown comments to the clowns. Sit on your hands and be quiet for awhile.

Jeremy, what rod did you use to weld the tubes on the 10.25? Pre-heat? Gotta do it myself soon.

Who uses rod anymore Mig/tig ...





Unless you were reffering to tig then my bad lol

Who uses rod anymore Mig/tig ...





Unless you were reffering to tig then my bad lol

Lotsa people, including me. His pic looked like an arc weld to me that's why I ax'd. I think he said his wire job is a cheapo so I'm guessin he didn't use it for the heavy shat. :flipoff2:

Who uses rod anymore Mig/tig ...





Unless you were reffering to tig then my bad lol

You can use nickel rod to weld cast and not have to preheat like you do when using mig or tig. Just cuz its an old welding style doesnt mean its inferior. :flipoff2:

Looks good Jeremy. Im still not sure which of us will finish first...:D

Keith,
I used a nickle rod with my (old as dirt) sears 220... I worked ok, but I am not sure I am happy with it. That fawking rod is EXPENSIVE too.:eek: I am thinking about cutting it out and doing the whole preheat deal with a buddys big ass miller portable.

Thanks Sam,
I know you little shit... You are making some progress.:grinpimp: I decided to build this one when I saw you were building yours. I need to go wheeling again.
I havent built anything for myself since I built that black RamCharger...:homer:

Ok fawkers, back to the garage I go...:flipoff2:



***EDIT***

Sam, you are HARDLY a LITTLE SHIT...?? LMAO, anyways, just thought about that and started laughing...

I know you BIG shit... You are making some progress.:grinpimp: I decided to build this one when I saw you were building yours. I need to go wheeling again.
I havent built anything for myself since I built that black RamCharger...:homer:

Im touched :flipoff2: I havent been wheeling since the trailduster... and since that thing was too clean to tear up i havent done serious wheeling in quite a while haha That RC was pretty sweet, you still have it or did you get rid of it?

EDIT: Fixed the quote for ya :D

I didnt even get a picture of it finished...:homer:


I rolled it the first day out. It was a total loss, well I kept the rear axle and the seats and stereo...:rolleyes:

:eek: i had no idea! that really sucks. did you roll it on the street or wheeling? Sorry for the hijack about your old rig haha

So back on the ranger, are you using the 60 front or 44? Im confused :homer:

I am going with a ball joint 60 front and 10.25 out back.

Yeah it sucked ass what happened to the Dodge...:( I took it up to a friends house to finish it. We got it done and took it wheeling, we hit a wash out on this big ass hill above his house... Rolled 12 times. It was fawked too, because you couldnt see the huge hole under ground. His grandpa said it was from an old redwood... Something about the root ball or some chit??:rolleyes:

Anyways, I am glad we put a cage in it. It was a crazy wreck, and we got really lucky that day.

I hope you got your springs done, I have one side done. :flipoff2:

Todays progress....

Starting to look like a truck again. Dont pick on my tires, I am going to run 40's on it... These are temporary. Here are the pics.



http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild002.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild003.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild005.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild007.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild009.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild010.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild011.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild012.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild013.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/RangerBuild014.jpg


It looks stupidly tall right now, but with 40's and all the crap like bumpers and tools, it should squat down a bit...

Guess we'll see.

i think it looks good so far but id do longer shackle at roughly a 45 degree angle loaded. i started on a dovetail bed. i hate bobbing beds i remembered i took 16"s out of the front of the bed and have to take 4 out of the back

Mike, it should squat a little bit once its on its own weight. The springs are floating in that picture. Once its on its own weight again, I can play with the shackles as needed. Right now it should be right around 50 deg though. I left them like that planning on adding bumpers and trail gear. Once its done it will be right around 45 deg.

You can use nickel rod to weld cast and not have to preheat like you do when using mig or tig. Just cuz its an old welding style doesnt mean its inferior. :flipoff2:

Looks good Jeremy. Im still not sure which of us will finish first...:D

Just giving yall shit b/c I cant Arc to save my life lol. Truck looks good so far though.

I am going with a ball joint 60 front and 10.25 out back.

Yeah it sucked ass what happened to the Dodge...:( I took it up to a friends house to finish it. We got it done and took it wheeling, we hit a wash out on this big ass hill above his house... Rolled 12 times. It was fawked too, because you couldnt see the huge hole under ground. His grandpa said it was from an old redwood... Something about the root ball or some chit??:rolleyes:

Anyways, I am glad we put a cage in it. It was a crazy wreck, and we got really lucky that day.

I hope you got your springs done, I have one side done. :flipoff2:

Crazy stuff man, glad to hear you made it outta that alive, even better without any serious injuries :eek:

Didnt get either spring in today :shaking: All the mounts are fully welded though, plus my new rear crossmember is in. Looks like you are winning so far :flipoff2:

Bed looks sweet. And i say run those tires, you'll never have to worry about breaking an axle :D

very cool, so whats the plan for the front clip?

what wheel base are you going for?

I am absolutely not running those tires Sam...:rolleyes: It looks retarded with the tiny tires on it.:laughing::flipoff2: I am going to run a 39.5 or 40" tires.

Front clip will get trimmed for tire stuff... I am thinking about trying to do a fancy tube fender, while still keeping the factory body lines... We'll see though.

Right now its stock, something like 120"... I think. I am considering moving the rear axle forward 10" and moving the front axle forward 3". That would put me at 113", that is a lot more favorable to me... 113" wb and 40" tires would be a fairly wheel-able combination with the full size axles.

If I hate it like that, I could go up to a 42" tire...??

We will see what happens.

Hows that welder work? Is that one of those giant tech deals? I got his plasma and its tits. Based on your pictures it looks really good, I just bought a 100$ stickwelder when I started building my truck, probly the best most used tool for the price I have bought.

I am absolutely not running those tires Sam...:rolleyes: It looks retarded with the tiny tires on it.:laughing::flipoff2: I am going to run a 39.5 or 40" tires.

of course, just giving you shit :flipoff2: The sterling would be a giant anchor for you on those meats hahaha

Buy the biggest set of used tires you can from the classifieds, I wish i had. buying brand new tires and making my beadlocks was expensive and a PITA :shaking: haha

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/radiusarms.jpg

I am open to input - opinions on the design of the links, but dont debate why I should use a 4 link.

If I wanted to use a 4 link or triangulted 3 link, I would be planning it that way.

How are you going to make the lower part?

The lower part of the link will be made out of 2.5" x .500 wall dom. It will be gusseted or boxed in with 3/16" plate.

The shorter upper arms that connect the truss, will be made out of 1.5" x .250 wall dom.

I only want to build these once, so this should be plenty strong. They will be heavy fawkers, but it will go a long way to my piece of mind.

The lower part of the link will be made out of 2.5" x .500 wall dom. It will be gusseted or boxed in with 3/16" plate.

The shorter upper arms that connect the truss, will be made out of 1.5" x .250 wall dom.

I only want to build these once, so this should be plenty strong. They will be heavy fawkers, but it will go a long way to my piece of mind.

OK...well how about bringing that upper link out some more, about to the middle of the lower link? THat will give you a upper link that's closer to perpendicular, and you could put the bend at the lower link at the same spot that the upper anchors to it, allowing the lower to have less of a bend. Make sense?

Wow jeremy that radius arm setup is REALLY similar to what im planning.

maybe make the lower part of the arm with no bends? Just would be easier/quicker to make i think.

What are you doing for joints?

OK...well how about bringing that upper link out some more, about to the middle of the lower link? THat will give you a upper link that's closer to perpendicular, and you could put the bend at the lower link at the same spot that the upper anchors to it, allowing the lower to have less of a bend. Make sense?

I get what your saying. The reason I did it this way, I am using a 92 dana 60. I dont have much room between the center section and inner c to mount stuff. The lower link will mount so far out board, that they will become my steering stops if I dont bend the way I did. I will be running a 40" tire, and they just wont turn if I dont use this design.

Wow jeremy that radius arm setup is REALLY similar to what im planning.

maybe make the lower part of the arm with no bends? Just would be easier/quicker to make i think.

What are you doing for joints?

I thought about that Sam, it would be easier to do... But, the tires wont turn.

I am using poly bushings at the axle end, a heim at the link end of the shorter arm and I am thinking about using Ballistic joints at the frame.

I thought about that Sam, it would be easier to do... But, the tires wont turn.

Aw dammit you're right. Im gonna have to address that too :rolleyes:

imma send you a PM...

from my truggy build, i may add an upper arm on the passenger side as well. in the pics the upper rear is not mounted yet

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/f250rollinon37s/newpicsagain026.jpg



http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/f250rollinon37s/newpicsagain028.jpg


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/f250rollinon37s/newpicsagain027.jpg

How the fawk did I miss that?? That is almost EXACTLY what I was thinking.

I was thinking about doing the upper arms on both sides though. It will be a driver as well as wheeler, I need to stay away from brake dive if I can.

I like those arms though, damn, bringin the beef.:smokin:

What is your overall arm length from axle to frame??

I am thinking in the neighborhood of 46" for my arms...

Your being begged to comment in the hummer forum :p

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=766238

Oh lovely.... I will look right now. :flipoff2:

Ok, stole some stuff from f250 for my links.

Pretty set with this design, I have measured the truck and it should work really well.

Updated side pic. Top view will be similar to the one posted earlier.


http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/links2.jpg

Ha she just bitched me out for being disrespectful :laughing: I didnt even say anything bad.

I left it alone... lmao

I totally dont get the Hummer thing...?? Why wheel something that needs the paint shielded??? They sure are proud of those fawking things though.:shaking:

Oh well.

I could care less what the fuck they wheel or how they protect it, I just thought it was funny but apparently the hummer forum is the same as the newbie gen. 4x4 where if you have nothing positive then your band :shaking: Ive never seen that in any of the other brand specific forums rules at the top of the page.

from my truggy build, i may add an upper arm on the passenger side as well. in the pics the upper rear is not mounted yet

A DART??? You used a fawkin broken DART for a plumb bob????


























Way to go, should work pretty good. :flipoff2:
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ya a dart - :flipoff2:

and i flexed it without springs and it would max out the TRE before it would bind ( and hit the shop floor ) i was going to add a upper on the pass side as well if the brake dive was exessive, or if i had a little axle hop on the pass side - i left room to do so


my lowers are near 48" and the upper is 28"


i might change the track arm if i ever add coilovers in the front though

and nor cal hurry up :flipoff2:

i dig this radius arm design a lot. how do you fig out the anti dive on a radius arm though?
and correct me if im wrong, but did you said you might try to run one side with an upper?

It will have brake dive being a radius arm design, coupled with the fact I am using 2.5 air shocks or possibly ori struts on the front.

I am running the upper arms on both sides. They are long enough that I shouldnt need a wristed style set up. We will see though.

The only down side to these arms will be the weight. They are going to be fawking heavy. I am almost positive I wont be able to bend them though.

Once the wife clears me to buy the air shocks, I will start building them.
I should have the back buttoned up in the next day or two. Then on to the front axle and doubler.

hell the weight wont be an issue. its low weight.

just wondering.. what made you go radius arms? will this see the street at all?

It will see the street every day, thats why I went this way instead of 4 link. I need the mechanical steering to be legal. If it was a dedicated wheeler, then I would go triangulated 3-4 link with full hydro.

I dont have the money or want to pull another tow rig payment... So this will be driven to and from the trails as well.

I am not overly worried about the radius arms, they are similar to the long arm systems for the Heeps. Its a proven design.

I am more worried about front spring/shock selection. I am thinking about running the ORI dp3 struts... Will probably end up using 2.5 air shocks with a sway bar though.

Your being begged to comment in the hummer forum :p

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=766238
Now THAT is just wrong....
Magnetic stick on paint protectors, WTF....
Oh yeah darts work good as a plumb bob...:D

thats pretty similar to my link set up. good luck bending 2" .5 wall hahaha.
mine are prebend from the rubicon
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj132/Section8krawlers/h.jpg

from my truggy build, i may add an upper arm on the passenger side as well. in the pics the upper rear is not mounted yet

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/f250rollinon37s/newpicsagain026.jpg



http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/f250rollinon37s/newpicsagain028.jpg


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/f250rollinon37s/newpicsagain027.jpg


is that upper link single sheared off the lower :homer:

is that upper link single sheared off the lower :homer:

i think he was going to make sure it all worked well before he did the double shear. Like drive the truck around the yard to make sure nothing binds.

and theres no panhard maybe in the build stage i donno i would do a true three link

It will see the street every day, thats why I went this way instead of 4 link. I need the mechanical steering to be legal. If it was a dedicated wheeler, then I would go triangulated 3-4 link with full hydro.




its legal jackass! :flipoff2: havent you read my thread?

full hydro sucks on the road...

so does driving an offroad truck on road

LMAO, I never said I would enjoy driving it on the road... Just said I would be able too. :flipoff2:

One of the guys I wheel with is running full hydro and he street drives the fawk out of his rig. I just dont want to mess with it.

This is a compromise that just meets in the middle.

I will be able to wheel it with out to many problems, and I will be able to street it when needed.

Here ya go, Ramp Champ:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/274211/fullsize/rampy.jpg

I won for this.............................................. ............absolutley nothing!

full hydro sucks on the road...
Mine isn't toooooo bad with 3* of castor. Of course I havn't gone over 45 yet.

A few of the Dezzert guys are running full hydro at 105 plus... Granted they are running return to center systems and 5-7* positive caster...

It must be nice to have $$backing like that.:homer:

Yeah my valve is open center load reactive and does return to center.

You should be fine than... Positive 3 castor isnt bad at all, with mechanical steering. I wouldnt go any less, but the older dodge dana 60's were set to 2-3* positive from the factory. It should be fairly similar with a full hydro system, especially with a return to center orbital.


What valve are you running?? PSC or Howe? I was looking for a salvage source for orbital valves like that. Wasnt much available, to say the least.

You should be fine than... Positive 3 castor isnt bad at all, with mechanical steering. I wouldnt go any less, but the older dodge dana 60's were set to 2-3* positive from the factory. It should be fairly similar with a full hydro system, especially with a return to center orbital.


What valve are you running?? PSC or Howe? I was looking for a salvage source for orbital valves like that. Wasnt much available, to say the least.

Might check ebay, thats where i got my orbital and double ended cylinder. The orbital was $150 i think and the deal i got on the cylinder was crazy :smokin:

I'm running the whole PSC system. 7.5 cu in valve, DE ram

So my rear end is on its own weight jeremy...:flipoff2: Whats been going on with your rig?

Rub it in... Mine is close. Yours is looking good though.:smokin:


I have been doing other stuff for the last few days. A good friend of mine is in a lot of trouble. Building is / will be halted for a bit, while we deal with this. They are trying to get him for a murder that happened in 2000. :eek:Its a really bad deal.:confused: I am hoping its a mistake...., guess we'll see.

wow good luck man :(

Best of luck Jeremy!

Fawking craziness everywhere.

One of my good friends is in jail for a 10 year old murder charge.:eek:

My chic wants to get married tomorrow.:eek:

I think I am going to start smoking pot or something..... There is just to much shit going on at once.

I hid in the garage all day and started my half doors, got the gas tank swapped to the bed.

Once this is done, I will start the boat sides. I am waiting on funds to do the front links and axle.

So..., I am just fawking around with little piddly free shit for the time being. I will post some pics when I get them done.

Fawking craziness everywhere.

One of my good friends is in jail for a 10 year old murder charge.:eek:

My chic wants to get married tomorrow.:eek:

I think I am going to start smoking pot or something..... There is just to much shit going on at once.

I hid in the garage all day and started my half doors, got the gas tank swapped to the bed.

Once this is done, I will start the boat sides. I am waiting on funds to do the front links and axle.

So..., I am just fawking around with little piddly free shit for the time being. I will post some pics when I get them done.

:eek:

Hope it all works out for you

Man Jeremy this really is surprising to be hearing :(

Not to get too personal here but is your buddy a suspect or are there charges against him? Problem in it being 10 years ago is its hard to remember or find proof of what you were doing when it happened and why it couldnt have been you.

And for some reason i thought you already married your lady :homer:

Be weary of the weed though. Can make alot of situations (esp. financial) way worse than before it came into the picture, just ask my 54 year old uncle who stills lives with my grandma that works 4 days a week to support him even though she's 80 :shaking: Stick to hiding in the garage, works wonders for getting my mind off the assorted crap life hands everybody. Every problem on a truck has a solution, somehow simple even when seemingly complex. Guess that makes it seem like even the most complicated problems you have in life must have solutions. Sorry, dont mean to get all deep haha

If theres anything i can do for you though jeremy dont hesitate to call, honestly. You should have my cell number, PM me if not.

Sam

Be weary of the weed though. Can make alot of situations (esp. financial) way worse than before it came into the picture, just ask my 54 year old uncle who stills lives with my grandma that works 4 days a week to support him even though she's 80 :shaking: Stick to hiding in the garage, works wonders for getting my mind off the assorted crap life hands everybody. Every problem on a truck has a solution, somehow simple even when seemingly complex. Guess that makes it seem like even the most complicated problems you have in life must have solutions. Sorry, dont mean to get all deep haha

Sam

Hey Sam, I think your uncle is the problem not the weed. Now I am not a chronic by any sort but I smoke a little and work 7 days a week 12 hours a day self employed. Go kick his ass! ...and in BC we grow the shiznit he is just smoking glorified turf:flipoff2:

haha absolutely he is a big part of the problem. Just saying, getting way into the drugs (and admittedy he's on more than pot) doesnt help

once again, best of luck jeremy

Thanx guys. I am not really going to be a stoner, I was just frazzled. A lot of shit going on...:eek:

Anyways, got one half door fully cut out, going to start rebuilding it today. They should look pretty good once I finish them. I really like the way it looks inside and out. Pics this afternoon.

Jeremy come to Pa, we'll somke a bong:)

Good luck to your friend

Those chicks are crazy, eh?

Thanx guys. I am not really going to be a stoner, I was just frazzled. A lot of shit going on...:eek:

Anyways, got one half door fully cut out, going to start rebuilding it today. They should look pretty good once I finish them. I really like the way it looks inside and out. Pics this afternoon.

i find the more drama at home there is, the more that i get done on my rig. :laughing:

You ever need a weekend hand, my chick needs a vacation and we love santa cruz

Well, we did it. Went and got fawking married....:eek: I am still unsure about this all. Kinda wild. She is a solid chic, It will be cool.

As for my buddy Daran.. They transferred his ass to Orange County. Just a waiting game now.

I got some shit done on my half doors today, totally forgot the pics though.

Lmao wes... I wouldnt be worth a shit for 2 days if I tried to smoke a bong.

Svt, dude you are welcome to cruise down anytime. We have an extra bedroom and I can cook like a big dog. Bonn fires and barbecue...
Vacations are fawking nice, and I am like 10 minutes from Santa Cruz. I will be hacking and cutting on this fawker until its done.

Ok, I am gone... Pics tomorrow... The wife is calling..... :grinpimp::grinpimp::flipoff2:

well shit dawg dont call me to hangout hahaha

Let me know when the party is lol

i do owe jeremy a 30 pack........ of keystone hahahahaha

Well, we did it. Went and got fawking married....:eek: I am still unsure about this all. Kinda wild. She is a solid chic, It will be cool.

dang jeremy got married and didnt invite all your pirate friends?? Im sure you invited Bebe at least though :flipoff2:

dang jeremy got married and didnt invite all your pirate friends??

hahahaha what a wonderful cluster fawk that would be:eek:

a bunch of local wheeling buddys mixed with some radom hick ass dudes from "the internet". everyone would be drunk, with nothing to wheel......
someone would probably try to wheel the limo becuase of its "streched ass wheel base":shaking:

now that would be a party lol

on a serious note. congrats man! i wish you the best of luck.

sounds like a party to me! :flipoff2:

And x2, congrats jeremy :beer:

I will do a pirate party here soon. I will send the invites P.m. style.

some drinkin and some barbecuin...


What a build thread this turned out to be...:homer: The tech is over fawking whelming. Ok, back to building I go.

I don't know how you made it through the engagement! I just got engaged a week ago and want to rip my hair out! I love the girl and have no problems with her but the wedding planning fawking sucks!!! Do you like this color? place? food? flower? when? guest list? etc...............it never ends! By the way, Congrats!!!!

Congrats man. Best wishes to you and the missus,........but get some fawkin pics up...K?

Go buy a fawkin camera already or I could come by one day and take good pics for everyone lol

I don't know how you made it through the engagement! I just got engaged a week ago and want to rip my hair out! I love the girl and have no problems with her but the wedding planning fawking sucks!!! Do you like this color? place? food? flower? when? guest list? etc...............it never ends! By the way, Congrats!!!!

Thanx Travis, our engagement was mellow. We talked about it a little bit and decided fawk it. Then like a week later she said lets go do it. Just went to the court house. We are planning a big ass formal thing for nest year sometime. Thats going to be friends and family... The Coalition guys will be there and some of my other wheelin buddies. I will get the info to you. When are you and Amy going to do your thing...?? Gongrats again man, thats awesome. I will call you in a few and catch up.

Congrats man. Best wishes to you and the missus,........but get some fawkin pics up...K?

Thanks man, I am happy. She is a solid girl. I lucked out.:grinpimp: I am working on the pics, its hard to take pics while working though...:p They are coming soon.

Go buy a fawkin camera already or I could come by one day and take good pics for everyone lol

Ha ha... I have one, but you are welcome to cruise out man. Plenty of camera worthy shit going on. :flipoff2: I will get the pics loaded soon.


Truck update, still working on the half doors. I will have my link / air shock money on the 15 of april. I am going to do what I can for now. I need to install the new exhaust... Anyone feel like helping with headers?? I am avoiding that part still. :( I hate header bolts, I have broken 3 already. I am thinking about pulling the engine to finish it. What a pain in the dick.:mad3:

As of right now we are still looking for a location but we are trying to do it this August.

Any pics of those half doors yet? :D

I am just doing what I can. Got my heims from Dan @ ruffstuff. Got my bushing ends from kert @ diy4x. Almost have the passenger half door finished. Need to get the tubing for the links and I will start on them. Here are a couple pics.

Nice job on the door chop. :smokin:

Nice toes and tire jack stands :flipoff2:

do you want to borrow 2 of mine? haha

looking good. Those doors are almost exaclty how i cut mine, except i left the handles on..

Yeah I like how the doors are turning out. I relocated the inner door latch to work, and relocated the factory speaker. I was thinking about stealing mikes idea for cup holders, but oh well. I may add them at a later date.

I will get some more pics soon. I got some metal in my eye, so progress is slow.

Doors look good, I see you like'em low cut. We could've done with out the toes. :eek:

more rig less nasty toes - :flipoff2:

Finish that damn thing so you can wheel it here in the real rocks...:D

more rig less nasty toes - :flipoff2:

You fawkers leave my flintstones outta this...:mr-t:

:lmao:

Making some progress. More pics soon...

Had my first real day back in the garage today. Fawking eye has been hurting...:mad3:

Fawking eye has been hurting...:mad3:

:confused::confused::confused:

I caught a piece of slag last week. Got the dremmel treatment at the docs. :bounce:

It sucked, one of the best ones yet.:homer:

that sucks good progress, i burned my arm pretty good today, and then cut my self. i took that as a sign to take a break, then mario came over and we bent his truss

then cut my self.

:shaking: fucking emo kids these days





:blackflipoff2:

Fawking ass has been hurting...:mad3:




PRO ??? :flipoff2:

So, the tech in this build is OLD SCHOOL for now... It will get better once I get to the front end.

Not a damn thing wrong with that :smokin:

Yup, its always worth the investment in a blue wrench. Sawzall gets the job done but the torch is so much quicker besides having the ability to quickly heat stuff up for various reasons.

PRO ??? :flipoff2:

I saw that :laughing:

.

:homer: I some how knew, you of all people would run with that.:laughing:

Project might start speeding up soon. I went for an interview today. Hopefully I can start throwing some money at this thing, and get it finished.

Back to the garage I go.

fawker slow down. your making the rest of us look slow. :flipoff2:

fawker slow down. your making the rest of us look slow. :flipoff2:
Thats because the rest of us ARE...:D

I caught a piece of slag last week. Got the dremmel treatment at the docs. :bounce:

It sucked, one of the best ones yet.:homer:

Be careful with those, you have a spare but ya really don't want to run with just one.

lmao Kieth... I could do a show, "Pimp my patch".:homer:

Got some more welding done yesterday. Going to get steel today or tomorrow.
Got some little things to finish up here and there, then I will start the links.

I am thinking about ditching the bed and doing a tubular flat bed. I am not doing a TRUGGY dammit!! Just thinking about a flat bed, but I dont like the idea of losing the room for my camping supplies / tools.

I am on the fence, some one throw something at me...

lmao Kieth... I could do a show, "Pimp my patch".:homer:

Got some more welding done yesterday. Going to get steel today or tomorrow.
Got some little things to finish up here and there, then I will start the links.

I am thinking about ditching the bed and doing a tubular flat bed. I am not doing a TRUGGY dammit!! Just thinking about a flat bed, but I dont like the idea of losing the room for my camping supplies / tools.

I am on the fence, some one throw something at me...

fuck that! keep the bedsides, EVERYONE does a flatbed.

you could do both, tube flat bed with skins from your bed.

fawker slow down. your making the rest of us look slow. :flipoff2:

Im going on 4 years with almost nothing to show, dont worry Im making you all look fast.

wow... :lmao: 4 years?? Get yo ass to work.

fuck that! keep the bedsides, EVERYONE does a flatbed.

Not everyone, Im rocking the NO bed look lol. Makes it easier to change shocks lol

you could do both, tube flat bed with skins from your bed.

i think thats a good plan. If i ever back-half my truck, im going to do a truggy with skins. With a small, 4'x3' flat bed in the center.

i hate flat beds - thats why im going preruner - a bedside / shell that just hangs there making it "look" like a truck :grinpimp:

Heres what I am thinking. This would be a rear view, looking towards the main exo hoop.

Sorry about the paint drawing, no fancy programs here.

Anyways, rear view on top. Side view below. I am not dead set on this yet. Still drawing the top view as well.

Whats everyone think?

I personally would keep the bed. But damn I am diggin' the look of your sketch there, that looks pretty sweet.:grinpimp:

Eh I'd change it so it didn't have so many parallel tubes. Kind of like this ellaborate sketch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/034x4/flatbed.jpg

i like it, but id go with less parallel tubes also. The post above this looks about right.

less tubing for sure and less straight pieces.

Btt

well, did some more drawing...

I have been trying to get an idea, of what I want this truck to do. I have decided that I am not dealing with the whole tow rig situation anymore. So this will be my be all, do all truck... It will get street driven to and from wheeling locations and wheeled. I need to build it solid enough to do this. These are some pictures of where I think I am going.

Let me know what you all think, pros and cons to this design, what you would do differently.

This is my first drawing. I dont like the way it looks... I think it would just be to fawking heavy.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/truckdraft.jpg

This is my second drawing. I like the way it looks and think it would work well.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/truckdraft5.jpg

I added some color for a better persective. Under the sliders will be plated of course. I couldn't draw that and make it look right.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/NorCalWheelin/truckdraft1.jpg

lame :flipoff2:


check out svts truck - with new pics :flipoff2:

That's pretty sharp for paint, mine look like a five year olds etch-a-sketch scribble. Too much time at the keyboard and not enough in the shop or does that lack of depth perception help at paint? :flipoff2:

First drawing is definetly too busy, last one looks great, should be strong with all the 45*s, (trianglation in pbbese).

2nd looks :smokin:

Are you gona have a build off party weekend with the Coalition to do all of that?

When are you planning on getting this thing done?

And when can I stop by and check this thing out? I work in Prunedale on San Miguel Canyon so I'm pretty close to your place.

Ok, I am out of money again...:homer:

Bought the steel for my boat sides, and the new rear spring mounts and shackles. Coming soon.

Gonna run the bed for a little while... No money.:mad3:

Might have to run leaf springs in the front for a little while... No money.:mad3:

Bought the rest of my heims for the front links.:grinpimp:

Bought the 5.38 ring and pinions.:grinpimp:

Will be in the garage all next week. I gotta catch back up to svt and 250...:flipoff2:

Pics soon.

you will pass me in no time, as ive been out of geen for months :(

but svt has money to blow :flipoff2:

you will pass me in no time, as ive been out of geen for months :(

but svt has money to blow :flipoff2:

:grinpimp:

no house, kids, wife, or car payment.

This build sucks you lazy unmotivated bastard :flipoff2:



I'm building two trucks at once! :laughing: