the badland boys are out doin themselfs! "pics" [Archive]

SpaceGhost

08-27-2002, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Madmarx
BAJG, I gotta ask, what is up with the 2 pieces of tube that are sticking out from the top corners in the first picture? Looks sweet, but I am definitely curious about those pieces.

50 calibur machine gun mounts, this dude is serious about his donuts! I think he has to tie his windshield to something, but it is a Jeep, and "I Wouldn't Understand"!

Rudezuk

08-27-2002, 02:24 PM

Looks sweet!!

launch_it

08-27-2002, 03:44 PM

looks cool :D a tad over built for crick falls . how you going to compete with the local's:flipoff2: cant wait till big dawgs

BornInAJeep

08-27-2002, 03:45 PM

:eek::eek:

doctor_G

08-27-2002, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by BornInAJeep
:eek::eek:

Yeah, that sums it up for me too.
I can see BAJG getting all stoked about seeing it and starts shaking. Is that what happened?
Dude, we on for this weekend? To bring my 60 down for Tommy.

flimmy

08-27-2002, 05:18 PM

Hope it's done for Big Dogs so you can compete in the Best of the Best ( 11 trail ) :D or just wheel with the rest of us and have some fun.

dirtrod

08-27-2002, 06:42 PM

Looking good...You are gonna love wheeling that thing.

badassjeepguy

08-27-2002, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Madmarx
BAJG, I gotta ask, what is up with the 2 pieces of tube that are sticking out from the top corners in the first picture? Looks sweet, but I am definitely curious about those pieces.

those will be removed..... that was a mount point for the windshield.... not necessary.... just ignore em.. :D wont be there when done

badassjeepguy

08-27-2002, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by dirtrod
Looking good...You are gonna love wheeling that thing.

i cant wait........... tellico in the spring! here i come :D

where the hell you been?

Bert

08-27-2002, 11:43 PM

DAMN, I can't wait to hop a ride in that baby!

Rob, That's hot! SMOKIN!

Krylon..

08-28-2002, 08:21 AM

Rob the pipe sticking out past the cage at the top of the "winshield frame", are they just not trimmed and capped yet or are they going to serve a purpose for something?

Looks sweet!!!! :)

badassjeepguy

08-28-2002, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Bert
DAMN, I can't wait to hop a ride in that baby!

Rob, That's hot! SMOKIN!

ill be out just about every sunday.............. no smokin in my rig! :D i quit :D ill take ya for a run...... i cant wait to hit the woops at wellsville :D

krylon........ those were for windshield.... they will not be there when finished

Krylon..

08-28-2002, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by badassjeepguy

krylon........ those were for windshield.... they will not be there when finished

Ah, I see now.. The rigs lookin good!!!

So any hints on getting sponsors? ;)

badassjeepguy

08-28-2002, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by syko

What????????? BAJG are you scared of it? :flipoff2: Let me at it I'll fawk it up:D;)

Looks good Badlands boys.

lol scared.... lol nahhhh stoaked, fired up, ready to hit the rocks! diein to be in the saddle again

Dain Bramage

08-29-2002, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by SpaceGhost
this dude is serious about his donuts!

:laughing:

oh...and the only reason i don't wanna understand the jeep thing is the drain on the pocket book. Hate to see the bill for this monster when it's done Rob...

Seeya sunday :)

dirtrod

08-29-2002, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by badassjeepguy

i cant wait........... tellico in the spring! here i come :D

where the hell you been?

...I've been building my new shop, no time for web wheeling lately, No time for anything else, I'm bingeing on it trying to get done before the weather goes to hell.

CHOKEu

08-29-2002, 06:12 PM

Looks good!

What are those things sticking out were the windshield use to attach to the tubing sticking out?:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :rasta: :clown:

Jeepmangled87

08-29-2002, 08:53 PM

what size tire I guess I missed something:D

Shaw

08-29-2002, 09:32 PM

Lookin great fellas! Can't wait to see those bad ass rigs out there! I'll be hittin' it hard soon. :cool:

badassjeepguy

08-29-2002, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by dirtrod

...I've been building my new shop, no time for web wheeling lately, No time for anything else, I'm bingeing on it trying to get done before the weather goes to hell.

im hopin to get one up in the next couple of years...... it all takes time.... and i was too impatient for the jeep :D

badassjeepguy

08-29-2002, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by CHOKEu
Looks good!

What are those things sticking out were the windshield use to attach to the tubing sticking out?:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :rasta: :clown:

:flipoff2: :rasta:

badassjeepguy

08-29-2002, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
what size tire I guess I missed something:D

38's for now but considering 42's......... actually waiting to see who come out with 39's first goodyear? or bfg? i take a set of those

NIC

08-30-2002, 03:47 AM

looks fat, i like the way it looks simple but i am sure it will be more than functional.

NICK

badassjeepguy

08-31-2002, 12:01 AM

well looks like ill be wheeling the new ride the monday after erocc at badlands........ a few hours then i got to head home..... its gonna be a good weekend commin up... :D

SpaceGhost

09-01-2002, 07:14 PM

Here ya go Rob,

http://www.iei.net/~msmythe/images/Rob/DSCN0955.jpg

and

http://www.iei.net/~msmythe/images/Rob/DSCN0959.jpg

last one, looking good!

http://www.iei.net/~msmythe/images/Rob/DSCN0960.jpg

flimmy

09-01-2002, 07:39 PM

Fix that head light :rolleyes: :flipoff2: Looooking gooood !!!

badassjeepguy

09-02-2002, 08:26 PM

awwwwwwww yeeeaaaaaahhhhh !!!!!!! :D

badassjeepguy

09-02-2002, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by flimmy
Fix that head light :rolleyes: :flipoff2: Looooking gooood !!!

lol.... ill fix it..... remove the other one! i got some electrical work to do when i get it back..... fix winch, new lights, line locs, oba, cb, maybe even a stereo so i can hear the results at erocc :D

thanks Mike!

Station

09-02-2002, 09:11 PM

Why is the steering cylinder not closer to being centered? As far from centered as it is your steering geometry is probably screwed up. Your ackerman angle is going to be WAY off with that setup, and there is probably an appreciable difference in the left/right steering radii.

Sean

syko

09-02-2002, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Station
Why is the steering cylinder not closer to being centered? As far from centered as it is your steering geometry is probably screwed up. Your ackerman angle is going to be WAY off with that setup, and there is probably an appreciable difference in the left/right steering radii.

Sean

What the fawk are you smoking? You might want to look at the pic and rethink you reply.

http://www.iei.net/~msmythe/images/Rob/DSCN0960.jpg

The cylinder is centered, in it's throw but not on the axle. Please look at the pic again and think about it. It's not rocket surgery.;) :D
Badlands boys feel free to in lighten this guy.

nomorejeep

09-02-2002, 11:24 PM

nomorejeep

09-02-2002, 11:26 PM

whats the specs on that badboy ?:D

Shaw

09-03-2002, 01:41 AM

Everything 4 link I see on this site has a this "V" shaped setup. My mounts on the frame are about in the same position, but my axle housing mounts are right near the coilover, one on top and one on bottom. Does this "V" shape have more advantages?

rkcrawl

09-03-2002, 05:34 AM

badassjeepguy

09-03-2002, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by rkcrawl

SMACK!

Looking good Rob. Bet you can't wait to go get it.

monday after erocc.............. ill be at attica in the morn for its first run, then headed home..... :D i sure cant wait!

Station

09-03-2002, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by syko

What the fawk are you smoking? You might want to look at the pic and rethink you reply.

http://www.iei.net/~msmythe/images/Rob/DSCN0960.jpg

The cylinder is centered, in it's throw but not on the axle. Please look at the pic again and think about it. It's not rocket surgery.;) :D
Badlands boys feel free to in lighten this guy.

Actually, you might want to rethink your reply. BAJG even PM'd me to let me know what was up with this setup, and that he is kind of stuck with that position due to not wanting to put it in front of the differential, and not having enough room to mount the cylinder above the differential. He is going to test the setup to see how noticeable the effects are of having the steering cylinder in that position.

Really you should have read my reply better. What would the ram not being centered in its throw have to do with Ackerman angle? NOTHING. But having different length tie rods going to each steering arm will affect Ackerman angle because the steering arms go front to back as well as side to side through their travel. The really short tie rod on the passenger side is going to go through much more angle change than the long side tie rod.

No, your right, its not rocket science but it is obviously a little bit more complicated than you figured.

Yeah why doesn't some one "in lighten" me , please?

Originally posted by rkcrawl

SMACK!

Nice Pad. No
SMACK! here.

Sean

gonerootin

09-03-2002, 11:51 AM

It looks sweet as hell with those coils on it. It is ready to go. Lookin fine. Big Dogs rufffffff. TTYL

rkcrawl

09-03-2002, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by Station

Really you should have read my reply better. What would the ram not being centered in its throw have to do with Ackerman angle? NOTHING. But having different length tie rods going to each steering arm will affect Ackerman angle because the steering arms go front to back as well as side to side through their travel. The really short tie rod on the passenger side is going to go through much more angle change than the long side tie rod.

No, your right, its not rocket science but it is obviously a little bit more complicated than you figured.

Yeah why doesn't some one "in lighten" me , please?

Nice Pad. No
SMACK! here.

Sean

Ok, I'll buy into this response. It's reasonable and make sense.

Pad? Don't go there. :D This whole thread is a pad. Here's another one:

Those obstacles look SICK !!!

Awesome picture of Durham! You cought that at the perfect moment. He must have been totally getting it!.

Thanks,
Sean

bigdude

09-03-2002, 12:52 PM

Do you honestly think that with heims at 1 or both ends of the connecting arms (can't tell from the pic) the arcs experienced by the different length rods will matter??? I would buy it making a big difference with just pins, but I don't see how it could cause much problem when heims are incoporated to take up the variance.

Please "in lighten" me if I'm off here :D

rkcrawl

09-03-2002, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by bigdude
Do you honestly think that with heims at 1 or both ends of the connecting arms (can't tell from the pic) the arcs experienced by the different length rods will matter??? I would buy it making a big difference with just pins, but I don't see how it could cause much problem when heims are incoporated to take up the variance.

Please "in lighten" me if I'm off here :D

I think what he is saying is the measured and at the tierod and ram will be considerably different on each end due to the different length rods. I can buy into that. Question is how much effect that has on the real world function of Robs front end/ackerman angle. We'll know soon enough once Rob picks up his rig. Its full hydro now, so its not like it matters THAT much as its trail only rig now, I think.

flimmy

09-03-2002, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by badassjeepguy

lol.... ill fix it..... remove the other one! i got some electrical work to do when i get it back..... fix winch, new lights, line locs, oba, cb, maybe even a stereo so i can hear the results at erocc :D

thanks Mike!

Bring it down to the garage, we can get the wiring done in no time. Btw I have 2 cases of Coors Light waiting in the garage fridg. :D

SHERPA

09-03-2002, 05:24 PM

with the increased angle on the short* tie-rod, in comparison to
the angle on the long tie-rod, when that thing is steered all the
way to the right, the angle of the short rod is going to be pretty
excessive.

I'll say it here/now:

I bet the ram get's bent on the passsenger side due to the
strong side-load which will be created from the short tie-rod's
excessive angle................

any takers--??

--SOMETHING is gonna give the ghost on the short side.......

rod-ends, ram, the cylnder mount, something.... beware...

PS: you heard it here first...............

--Sherpa

rkcrawl

09-03-2002, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
I'll say it here/now:

I bet the ram get's bent on the passsenger side due to the
strong side-load which will be created from the short tie-rod's
excessive angle................

any takers--??

PS: you heard it here first...............

--Sherpa

Nope, I've seen the light :D Can see it now, hard right bound in the rocks . Hmm hyrdo-assist is sounding better :D

Station

09-03-2002, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
with the increased angle on the short* tie-rod, in comparison to
the angle on the long tie-rod, when that thing is steered all the
way to the right, the angle of the short rod is going to be pretty
excessive.

I'll say it here/now:

I bet the ram get's bent on the passsenger side due to the
strong side-load which will be created from the short tie-rod's
excessive angle................

any takers--??

--SOMETHING is gonna give the ghost on the short side.......

rod-ends, ram, the cylnder mount, something.... beware...

PS: you heard it here first...............

--Sherpa

I thought that the first time that I saw it as well, just didn't want to say it that way. Go You! hehe Also the shaft selas aren't going to like side loads either. I reccomend to all people that I sell my rams to that the mount them as close as possible to the plane that the steering arms are on. It saves allot of stress on all of the steering components.

My call is that the shaft will bend if left that way, because as I recall the double ended steering cylinders that the Badlands shop uses has a 1" dia. shaft, which I.M.O. is kind of small even with the best geometry.

As I said in my PM to you BAJG, I would move that thing closer to center any way possible before you waste a steering cylinder. What is worse, possibly wasting the cylinder because of rock damage, or definitely wasting it due to design flaw?

Move the cylinder to the center, and build your cylinder mounts with a skid that protects as much of the cylinder as possible.

Wouldn't it suck if you DNF'd a competition because of something that you already knew might be a problem?

Sean

badassjeepguy

09-03-2002, 08:40 PM

if......... IF i dnf it will be on practice........ my season will not begin untill next year.........right now will be lots of seat time.... LOTS OF SEAT TIME :D if i feel there is an issue after running it a little i will adress it....... IT WILL RUN the way it is untill I prove myself wrong........... by then i may have devised a different location for it.... i do appreciate peoples input, but im gonna run it like this at least for now! thanks for your concern :D