Since it is slow as fawk....how about we dream and tell what our plans are for winter?

I'd like to take the .030 over 345 short block crated in the corner of the family shop and mate it to a 727 with the Jeep conversion a local has for sale, then slap on a D300 from a J**p out of the pile after I have it mated to a divorced 205 and swap it all into the Scout. I am thinking about having a sleeve machined that will mate the D300 rear output and 205 input together instead of using a u-joint...

Hmmm...since I have a dodge 203 behind a dodge 4 speed I might see if I can bolt the dodge 203 to the 727 conversion and then mate up the 205....cheapest route will probably be to cut the d20 in half/clock the 300 and run the divorced 205 behind it off a u-joint and mate them together on the same crossmember to keep it all in line.....probably just swapping in the new motor, tranny, and d300 deal will be what I do...the KISS principle...

Reality is that I'll probably just wheel it like it is next year and fix what breaks....except I am going to redrill the front springs to move the axle forward an inch and trim what fender rubs the 37's....

How about it fawkers? What are you going to do?:flipoff2:

i just hooked up with a cad 500, complete with th400, found a 4wd 400 core for the output shaft, and garry over at agr is prob going to hook me up with a rock ram setup. i also picked up 2 firebird rear calipers to throw on the rear dana 60 so i can have e brakes

now i just have to sort out what the hell im going to do for a x-fer case.. i realy dont think my 20 will like all that torque..

*groan* I don't want to think about my winter project list... *sigh*

Tow-rig is the primary project.

I need to get the 392 block to the machinist so I can start putting all these parts on the shop floor INTO it..

After this weekend, I need to determine what needs to be done with the front 60, and source the rest of the parts I need.

Then go get the 4x4 parts truck and cut it up and clean up the pieces I need.

Then I can pull the truck into the shop (tight fit..) and cut out the IFS front end, swap in the leaf spring hangers/springs, finish the D60 and roll that under, install some blocks in the rear to level it out..

Pull the front clip and put it back on my 1/2T, replace the 345/T98 with the built 392/wideT19 and headers, build a new exhaust, put the new front clip on..

Install the NP205 and brackets - I think the "stock" location.

Install the 3spd Brownie behind it (making OD in 2wd only.. but I save $$$ by re-using the stock front and intermediate driveshafts - only have to build a new intermediate from the 205 to the brownie, and cut down the rear 'shaft to hook to the brownie).

Do something about the driver's floor. Maybe get the interior painted and caged.

Then find someone to paint it, and hope I get all of this done before Spring racing/wheeling season.

If I find time and money to do anything to the trail rig or race rig, I'll rejoice.

Hunting season is about to start, too.. *sigh*

At least when I'm done I'll have a clean, straight, freshly painted IH 4dr 1T 4x4 with an OD brownie and built 392 to pull with.

Hopefully that'll all mean that going a bit farther to play won't be as big of a deal, with all of those creature comforts...

Forgot to mention - reinstalling A/C parts is on the hopeful list. :flipoff2:

Anyone want to come over to help? :D

Originally posted by YellowIH
Since it is slow as fawk....how about we dream and tell what our plans are for winter?

I'd like to take the .030 over 345 short block crated in the corner of the family shop and mate it to a 727 with the Jeep conversion a local has for sale, then slap on a D300 from a J**p out of the pile after I have it mated to a divorced 205 and swap it all into the Scout. I am thinking about having a sleeve machined that will mate the D300 rear output and 205 input together instead of using a u-joint...

Well, I want to button up the 75, and completly finish the minor details. Clean-up the wiring, finish off the cage, add storage containers in the back and under the seats. Find a good set of 35's so I can run the Stock Mod class at Calrocs.

Then I can start on the other rig which is TBD

On the Heep 300, just run 4:1 gears with the auto. Whole lot easier and the 4:1 with the auto is just about right. Save the 205 for another project.

i think i will get a 4 bbl for my 345 and a 3 or 4 core radiator.
i will most likely focus on the interior of my truck this winter
i have a set of 5 way adjustable racing seats that i want to put in it. first i need to strip everything out of the cab and replace the rusted out floor. i need to fiberglass some spots inside too. rhino line the floor of the cab, put the bucket seats and a console in and rewire the whole truck.
right now the bed has plywood for the floor and that will be replaced with new sheet metal and rhino lined too.
i might even get a fuel cell and a tool box too

This winter I am going to swap my 60 & 14 bolt out for a D30 & 35...much lighter!


Actually...I'm looking at a 383swap (or maybe only a 350...$$$ will dictate)

Hydro assist

I think I am going to buy a Soft top too..and then build a new cage to fit under it...anyone have a Soft top for an 80/800 that they can measure for me? (Not one of Tom Walker's dealios either- I don't like how they look like covered wagons;) )

Ditching the front Lockright and going with a detroit

Ditching the rear Lincoln locker and going detroit too...

Misc Tubing creations(Bumpers, racks, etc)

my list:

replace my tranny
fix fuel system/steering/brakes
SOA clyde
roll cage in clyde
re-wire clyde
Get my 800 from WA
strip 800 and build cage.
fab up t-case adapter and install drivetrain
put roll cage in 800
install axles in 800
wiring and lights
steering for 800

Probably gonna sell my turbo diesel engine, need the funds now, but was thinking of going to NA anyhow, better suited for my needs.

Also might be able to get a chevy 2.5 ton for cheap, need to search and see if the axles are worth it, and if my little diesel can work with them.

which also brings up the question, do I want the 800 to be street legal?

NQS

Picking up a Terra this weekend with full size Chevy axles,345, T727, D20. I want to:
1) swap out the T727 for a buddies T727 with low gearset and output for a Jeep D300
2)3/4 or one ton axles...D44 or 60, 14 bolt rear, locked with 4 wheel discs
3) cut fenders for 37-38 inch tires
If this works out I may:
1) un SOA the daily driver SSII and go with 2.5" SUA and 265/75R16s.
2)build "hot rod" 345
:)

I might work on the Scout, the 1210 or one of the other various vehicles. Probably not though. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by jdjanda


On the Heep 300, just run 4:1 gears with the auto. Whole lot easier and the 4:1 with the auto is just about right. Save the 205 for another project.

........how about the 3.15 tera kit...anybody like it??...that swap would be pretty easy since they make one for the Scout autos now.

Joe,

Flame on with this question, but I don't know the answer and I know you do since you have the converted 727/Jeep D300.

OK, I buy the converted 727....I already have the Jeep D300 with no adapter...(just a round face with a hole for an input shaft)....Question: IS there an adapter (I tend to think there is...) to install btw the two or does the D300 just bolt to the output shaft on the converted 727?? :confused: Just trying to get it all mentally laid out b4 I drop the change and end up FUBAR.....and short on $$$

Thanks,
Wes

Originally posted by Ben W
I might work on the Scout, the 1210 or one of the other various vehicles. Probably not though. :rolleyes:

Get the 1210 going so you have your own tow-rig...

Want another one? ;-)

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Get the 1210 going so you have your own tow-rig...

Want another one? ;-)

No, 4 is enough. :)

Originally posted by YellowIH


........how about the 3.15 tera kit...anybody like it??...that swap would be pretty easy since they make one for the Scout autos now.

Joe,

Flame on with this question, but I don't know the answer and I know you do since you have the converted 727/Jeep D300.

OK, I buy the converted 727....I already have the Jeep D300 with no adapter...(just a round face with a hole for an input shaft)....Question: IS there an adapter (I tend to think there is...) to install btw the two or does the D300 just bolt to the output shaft on the converted 727?? :confused: Just trying to get it all mentally laid out b4 I drop the change and end up FUBAR.....and short on $$$

Thanks,
Wes

My buddy has a D20 3.15 behind his 727..it works great.

As for the Jeep 727...no adaptor..but you need an aftermarket clocking ring if you need to rotate it. (unless you could redrill the housing..I haven't looked)

Originally posted by YellowIH


........how about the 3.15 tera kit...anybody like it??...that swap would be pretty easy since they make one for the Scout autos now.

Joe,

Flame on with this question, but I don't know the answer and I know you do since you have the converted 727/Jeep D300.

OK, I buy the converted 727....I already have the Jeep D300 with no adapter...(just a round face with a hole for an input shaft)....Question: IS there an adapter (I tend to think there is...) to install btw the two or does the D300 just bolt to the output shaft on the converted 727?? :confused: Just trying to get it all mentally laid out b4 I drop the change and end up FUBAR.....and short on $$$

Thanks,
Wes

Nope it's a bolt up as Joel said. Remember you'll need the output shaft as well. I spec'd the IH shaft and discussed with John about cutting the threaded section off the IH shaft, it's a no go.

I did not clock the 300, it sits about an inch above the frame rails, plus the front d-line angle is bad enough without clocking the 300

Also if you can grab all the mounting brackets for the auto out of the heep. Then you only need to drill three holes and you use the heep rubber mount which is easy and cheap to replace with a poly unit.

Joe

Man, you guys got a lot planned! This winter Nikki and I are planning to tear down the scout and take stock of what we have.

Plan A is a 1/4 elip rear and a set of rockwells, negate the body, use the front half of the frame, and tube the rest. Retaining 345/727/D300, throw in the 4:1 kit, and call it done. Will have rear steer. Keeping the 39.5 Boggers tho.

Plan B is 1/4 elip rear, keep current axles/driveline, chop back of body & frame off, throw in 4:1 kit, and go to orbital valve/Ram for steering.

All I know is, something's gotta change.

Sorry, most of you guys don't know me, but I pop in from time to time... I had the ugly yellow pig-looking scout on here not too long ago...

Originally posted by robc10x


Sorry, most of you guys don't know me, but I pop in from time to time... I had the ugly yellow pig-looking scout on here not too long ago...

Your the guy that Rolled right? Going extreme now huh?:D

Originally posted by jdjanda


Nope it's a bolt up as Joel said. Remember you'll need the output shaft as well.


You just mean to have the output shaft from the heep installed into the IH 727...right? Then the D300 slips over the new 727 shaft and bolts to the tranny...

Thanks Joe and Joel. :D


-Wes

Originally posted by YellowIH



You just mean to have the output shaft from the heep installed into the IH 727...right? Then the D300 slips over the new 727 shaft and bolts to the tranny...

Thanks Joe and Joel. :D


-Wes

And the tail housing, what your going to have it done? It's not that bad, in some ways easier then a manual. Why your in there, add a shift kit, go to a higher ratio apply arm, bolt in sprag, deep pan, upgrade the rear band (most rebuild kits do not include the band, and remote spin on filter.

Joe

Originally posted by jdjanda


And the tail housing, what your going to have it done? It's not that bad, in some ways easier then a manual. Why your in there, add a shift kit, go to a higher ratio apply arm, bolt in sprag, deep pan, upgrade the rear band (most rebuild kits do not include the band, and remote spin on filter.

Joe

Don't forget the Kevlar clutches and full manual valve body. :D Skip the "shift kit"..

I think the rear servo is a commonly upgraded piece, too.

Originally posted by jdjanda


And the tail housing, what your going to have it done? It's not that bad, in some ways easier then a manual. Why your in there, add a shift kit, go to a higher ratio apply arm, bolt in sprag, deep pan, upgrade the rear band (most rebuild kits do not include the band, and remote spin on filter.

Joe


Joe,

I just finished looking at Fleck's tranny pics in the archives so I am clear now on what has to be done to the tranny and how it should look.

As far as building instead of buying...I HATE to buy anything but a local guy has a IH727 that has been converted and has had all the goodies (RV gearset, shift kit, sprag...) already done to it and I have the D300 from a Jeep and a bored 345 short block so I thought I would do it all at once.

I may just go for the tranny and t/c though since the 345 I have runs strong and doesn't bleed to bad and its stopped fouling plugs (???...went one heat range hotter...may be over carbed with a 795 Quad and a 268H comp cam???....It still has really good compression too)...I think it bleeds out the rear main seal...SO I can change that while I am R&R the tranny and all. Did you have to get your driveshafts redone with the Jeep D300 or did it all work out close enough?

This is some good techy.....

Thanks,
Wes:D

Originally posted by YellowIH



Joe,

I just finished looking at Fleck's tranny pics in the archives so I am clear now on what has to be done to the tranny and how it should look.

As far as building instead of buying...I HATE to buy anything but a local guy has a IH727 that has been converted and has had all the goodies (RV gearset, shift kit, sprag...) already done to it....


Sounds like a deal I wouldn't pass up either.



Originally posted by YellowIH
Did you have to get your driveshafts redone with the Jeep D300 or did it all work out close enough?


Well sorta, you'll pick up about an 1-1.5" worth of length in the back, in my case I went to a SOA with Add-A-Leafs and a D60, so my drive shaft was just long enough, so when I swapped in the Heep 300 the extra length helped.

I'd say if you DL is a little short you'll be ok, if it's a tad long you'll need to shorthen it. Assuming you don't change anything else.

Down here, winter plans are all about wheeling in the desert.

Originally posted by Scout Dude


Your the guy that Rolled right? Going extreme now huh?:D

I guess you could say that... I have been semi-extreme for a few years now, but last year bought a trailer so the rig has been trail only for about a year. I'm nowhere near Gonzo mega buck extreme, but it sure won't pass inspection either:D .

Not too many other east coast scouters running big meats and doing decent trails. If they are, I haven't seen them in the mid-atlantic. Sure would like the company... I'm always surrounded by jeeps & toys.

Hey Mr. Green - get your shit together & come play!