: Yeah baby!!!


Kurtuleas
03-11-2009, 01:58 PM
BLUERIBBON COALITION LAND USE UPDATE

Giant Omnibus Bill Goes Down by 1 Vote!!

Dear BRC Action Alert Subscriber,

Greg Mumm, BRC's Executive Director, just called me from Washington D.C. He told me that the infamous Omnibus Public Lands bill, commonly known as "S. 22," failed by 1 vote in the House.

The Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009 had been fast-tracked through the U.S. Senate and had been expected to pass the House earlier today. Tell me one vote doesn't count! The bill is over 1,200 pages long with over 160 different bills, designates 2.2 million acres of Wilderness, identifies three new national parks, 10 national heritage areas, and designates over 1,000 miles of wild and scenic rivers.

We'll have details later. Thanks to all who made calls and emailed on this bill.

Brian Hawthorne
Public Lands Policy Director
BlueRibbon Coalition


AWESOME!!!

Good work by everyone that used the letter generator for the Boxer/McCown Bill that was wrapped up into the bullshit Omnibus Bill!

:bounce::bounce2::bounce::bounce2:

landusepbb
03-11-2009, 02:05 PM
Just saw that, too. Great news. :grinpimp:

Bebe
03-11-2009, 02:18 PM
It's time 2 party!!


YEAH!!!

RickyRetardo
03-11-2009, 02:29 PM
SWEEEETTTTTTT

A big thanks to all those who put in all the hard work to stop this bill

SinCityFJC
03-11-2009, 02:39 PM
GREAT!

Nice to get to post some good news in land use/access

Bebe
03-11-2009, 02:51 PM
You can locate your Represenative here :

If they vote no...Thank them, If they vote yes....tell them not to do it again.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2009-117

OlMan
03-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Wayne Nosala posted this on another site. Sorry it's long, but here's how they voted. Take note!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/...3a6pieDhw8KbIF

By The Associated Press The Associated Press – 38 mins ago
Featured Topics: Barack Obama Presidential Transition The 282-144 roll call Wednesday by which the House rejected a bill to set aside more than 2 million acres in nine states as protected wilderness. The legislation was defeated because it did not receive the needed two-thirds vote. The measure was two votes short of approval.

A "yes" vote is a vote to pass the bill.

Voting yes were 248 Democrats and 34 Republicans.

Voting no were 3 Democrats and 141 Republicans.

X denotes those not voting.

There are 3 vacancies in the 435-member House.

ALABAMA

Democrats — Bright, X; Davis, Y; Griffith, Y.

Republicans — Aderholt, N; Bachus, N; Bonner, N; Rogers, N.

ALASKA

Republicans — Young, Y.

ARIZONA

Democrats — Giffords, Y; Grijalva, Y; Kirkpatrick, Y; Mitchell, Y; Pastor, Y.

Republicans — Flake, N; Franks, N; Shadegg, N.

ARKANSAS

Democrats — Berry, Y; Ross, Y; Snyder, Y.

Republicans — Boozman, N.

CALIFORNIA

Democrats — Baca, Y; Becerra, Y; Berman, Y; Capps, Y; Cardoza, Y; Costa, Y; Davis, Y; Eshoo, Y; Farr, Y; Filner, Y; Harman, Y; Honda, Y; Lee, Y; Lofgren, Zoe, Y; Matsui, Y; McNerney, Y; Miller, George, Y; Napolitano, Y; Pelosi, Y; Richardson, Y; Roybal-Allard, Y; Sanchez, Linda T., Y; Sanchez, Loretta, Y; Schiff, Y; Sherman, Y; Speier, Y; Stark, Y; Tauscher, Y; Thompson, Y; Waters, Y; Watson, Y; Waxman, Y; Woolsey, Y.

Republicans — Bilbray, N; Bono Mack, Y; Calvert, N; Campbell, N; Dreier, Y; Gallegly, N; Herger, N; Hunter, N; Issa, N; Lewis, Y; Lungren, Daniel E., N; McCarthy, N; McClintock, N; McKeon, Y; Miller, Gary, X; Nunes, N; Radanovich, X; Rohrabacher, N; Royce, N.

COLORADO

Democrats — DeGette, Y; Markey, Y; Perlmutter, Y; Polis, Y; Salazar, Y.

Republicans — Coffman, N; Lamborn, N.

CONNECTICUT

Democrats — Courtney, Y; DeLauro, Y; Himes, Y; Larson, Y; Murphy, Y.

DELAWARE

Republicans — Castle, Y.

FLORIDA

Democrats — Boyd, Y; Brown, Corrine, Y; Castor, Y; Grayson, Y; Hastings, Y; Klein, Y; Kosmas, X; Meek, Y; Wasserman Schultz, Y; Wexler, Y.

Republicans — Bilirakis, N; Brown-Waite, Ginny, N; Buchanan, N; Crenshaw, N; Diaz-Balart, L., N; Diaz-Balart, M., N; Mack, N; Mica, N; Miller, N; Posey, N; Putnam, N; Rooney, N; Ros-Lehtinen, Y; Stearns, N; Young, Y.

GEORGIA

Democrats — Barrow, Y; Bishop, Y; Johnson, Y; Lewis, Y; Marshall, N; Scott, Y.

Republicans — Broun, N; Deal, N; Gingrey, N; Kingston, N; Linder, N; Price, N; Westmoreland, N.

HAWAII

Democrats — Abercrombie, Y; Hirono, Y.

IDAHO

Democrats — Minnick, Y.

Republicans — Simpson, Y.

ILLINOIS

Democrats — Bean, Y; Costello, Y; Davis, Y; Foster, Y; Gutierrez, Y; Halvorson, Y; Hare, Y; Jackson, Y; Lipinski, Y; Rush, Y; Schakowsky, Y.

Republicans — Biggert, N; Johnson, Y; Kirk, Y; Manzullo, N; Roskam, N; Schock, N; Shimkus, N.

INDIANA

Democrats — Carson, Y; Donnelly, Y; Ellsworth, Y; Hill, Y; Visclosky, Y.

Republicans — Burton, N; Buyer, N; Pence, N; Souder, N.

IOWA

Democrats — Boswell, Y; Braley, Y; Loebsack, Y.

Republicans — King, N; Latham, N.

KANSAS

Democrats — Moore, Y.

Republicans — Jenkins, N; Moran, N; Tiahrt, N.

KENTUCKY

Democrats — Chandler, Y; Yarmuth, Y.

Republicans — Davis, N; Guthrie, N; Rogers, N; Whitfield, Y.

LOUISIANA

Democrats — Melancon, Y.

Republicans — Alexander, X; Boustany, N; Cao, N; Cassidy, N; Fleming, N; Scalise, N.

MAINE

Democrats — Michaud, Y; Pingree, Y.

MARYLAND

Democrats — Cummings, Y; Edwards, Y; Hoyer, Y; Kratovil, Y; Ruppersberger, Y; Sarbanes, Y; Van Hollen, Y.

Republicans — Bartlett, N.

MASSACHUSETTS

Democrats — Capuano, Y; Delahunt, Y; Frank, Y; Lynch, Y; Markey, Y; McGovern, Y; Neal, Y; Olver, Y; Tierney, Y; Tsongas, Y.

MICHIGAN

Democrats — Conyers, Y; Dingell, Y; Kildee, Y; Kilpatrick, Y; Levin, Y; Peters, Y; Schauer, Y; Stupak, Y.

Republicans — Camp, N; Ehlers, Y; Hoekstra, N; McCotter, N; Miller, Y; Rogers, N; Upton, Y.

MINNESOTA

Democrats — Ellison, Y; McCollum, Y; Oberstar, Y; Peterson, N; Walz, Y.

Republicans — Bachmann, N; Kline, N; Paulsen, Y.

MISSISSIPPI

Democrats — Childers, Y; Taylor, Y; Thompson, Y.

Republicans — Harper, N.

MISSOURI

Democrats — Carnahan, Y; Clay, Y; Cleaver, Y; Skelton, Y.

Republicans — Akin, N; Blunt, N; Emerson, N; Graves, N; Luetkemeyer, N.

MONTANA

Republicans — Rehberg, N.

NEBRASKA

Republicans — Fortenberry, Y; Smith, N; Terry, N.

NEVADA

Democrats — Berkley, Y; Titus, Y.

Republicans — Heller, N.

NEW HAMPSHIRE

Democrats — Hodes, Y; Shea-Porter, Y.

NEW JERSEY

Democrats — Adler, Y; Andrews, Y; Holt, Y; Pallone, Y; Pascrell, Y; Payne, Y; Rothman, Y; Sires, Y.

Republicans — Frelinghuysen, Y; Garrett, N; Lance, Y; LoBiondo, Y; Smith, Y.

NEW MEXICO

Democrats — Heinrich, Y; Lujan, Y; Teague, Y.

NEW YORK

Democrats — Ackerman, Y; Arcuri, Y; Bishop, Y; Clarke, Y; Crowley, Y; Engel, Y; Hall, X; Higgins, Y; Hinchey, Y; Israel, Y; Lowey, Y; Maffei, Y; Maloney, Y; Massa, Y; McCarthy, Y; McMahon, Y; Meeks, Y; Nadler, Y; Rangel, Y; Serrano, Y; Slaughter, Y; Tonko, Y; Towns, Y; Velazquez, Y; Weiner, Y.

Republicans — King, N; Lee, N; McHugh, N.

NORTH CAROLINA

Democrats — Butterfield, Y; Etheridge, Y; Kissell, Y; McIntyre, Y; Miller, Y; Price, Y; Shuler, Y; Watt, Y.

Republicans — Coble, N; Foxx, N; Jones, Y; McHenry, N; Myrick, N.

NORTH DAKOTA

Democrats — Pomeroy, Y.

OHIO

Democrats — Boccieri, Y; Driehaus, Y; Fudge, Y; Kaptur, Y; Kilroy, Y; Kucinich, Y; Ryan, Y; Space, Y; Sutton, Y; Wilson, Y.

Republicans — Austria, N; Boehner, N; Jordan, N; LaTourette, Y; Latta, N; Schmidt, N; Tiberi, N; Turner, Y.

OKLAHOMA

Democrats — Boren, N.

Republicans — Cole, N; Fallin, N; Lucas, N; Sullivan, N.

OREGON

Democrats — Blumenauer, Y; DeFazio, Y; Schrader, Y; Wu, Y.

Republicans — Walden, Y.

PENNSYLVANIA

Democrats — Altmire, Y; Brady, Y; Carney, Y; Dahlkemper, Y; Doyle, Y; Fattah, Y; Holden, Y; Kanjorski, Y; Murphy, Patrick, Y; Murtha, Y; Schwartz, Y; Sestak, Y.

Republicans — Dent, Y; Gerlach, Y; Murphy, Tim, N; Pitts, N; Platts, Y; Shuster, N; Thompson, N.

RHODE ISLAND

Democrats — Kennedy, Y; Langevin, Y.

SOUTH CAROLINA

Democrats — Clyburn, Y; Spratt, Y.

Republicans — Barrett, N; Brown, N; Inglis, N; Wilson, N.

SOUTH DAKOTA

Democrats — Herseth Sandlin, Y.

TENNESSEE

Democrats — Cohen, Y; Cooper, Y; Davis, Y; Gordon, Y; Tanner, Y.

Republicans — Blackburn, N; Duncan, N; Roe, N; Wamp, Y.

TEXAS

Democrats — Cuellar, Y; Doggett, Y; Edwards, Y; Gonzalez, Y; Green, Al, Y; Green, Gene, Y; Hinojosa, Y; Jackson-Lee, Y; Johnson, E. B., Y; Ortiz, Y; Reyes, Y; Rodriguez, Y.

Republicans — Barton, N; Brady, N; Burgess, N; Carter, N; Conaway, N; Culberson, N; Gohmert, N; Granger, N; Hall, N; Hensarling, N; Johnson, Sam, N; Marchant, N; McCaul, N; Neugebauer, N; Olson, N; Paul, N; Poe, N; Sessions, N; Smith, N; Thornberry, N.

UTAH

Democrats — Matheson, Y.

Republicans — Bishop, N; Chaffetz, N.

VERMONT

Democrats — Welch, Y.

VIRGINIA

Democrats — Boucher, Y; Connolly, Y; Moran, Y; Nye, Y; Perriello, Y; Scott, Y.

Republicans — Cantor, N; Forbes, N; Goodlatte, N; Wittman, Y; Wolf, Y.

WASHINGTON

Democrats — Baird, Y; Dicks, Y; Inslee, Y; Larsen, Y; McDermott, Y; Smith, Y.

Republicans — Hastings, N; McMorris Rodgers, N; Reichert, Y.

WEST VIRGINIA

Democrats — Mollohan, Y; Rahall, Y.

Republicans — Capito, Y.

WISCONSIN

Democrats — Baldwin, Y; Kagen, Y; Kind, Y; Moore, Y; Obey, Y.

Republicans — Petri, Y; Ryan, N; Sensenbrenner, N.

forbergler
03-12-2009, 07:51 PM
I just sent my thank you to Lungren!

chasinternet
03-12-2009, 08:36 PM
It is a big victory - but its not dead.

In my other post which I made minutes after the vote (you can watch these things in almost real time) - I originally posted it was going to come up next week again but took that down because the House leadership indicated it was, then was not, going that course. I thought S.22 was therefore dead.

Unfortunately it is still breathing.

The bill failed to pass in its present form but is not gone quite yet. The vote was procedural and not on the bill itself. The gun interests demanded an amendment and in order to do that and not open the bill to debate and further reworking called for the House to suspend the rules of procedure by a 2/3 vote. Its the ole, "we're Congress and if we don't like law applying to ourselves we suspend it or ignore it".

S.22 is still technically "unfinished business" because the vote was only to allow a vote on S.22 under suspension of the rules of procedure - not a vote on the actual bill itself.

They are still discussing the possibilities. Basically, the brain trust is trying to find away around rules, limit debate, and shove it back through.

The "nuclear" option is to bring the bill as it was written by the Senate without the gun interests amendment and see if enough of the membership will defy the gun lobby. I have no doubt if they do that S.22 will pass because it would only need a simple majority - but the House leadership does not wish to alienate the gun interests (and others opposed to some of this badly written bill).

The leadership is also weighing if they want to bring it later to the floor as a regular bill with a simple majority vote - that process will let amendments be made to it and then send it back to the Senate for their vote. This would make it the normal process - but will burn more time. While this seems the more intelligent thing to do - it means defeat for the "jam it down their throats" ego of Reid and President Pelosi.

This is a victory because it is the first time under the new administration that things will have to be done on a more normal basis instead of chicken little running around declaring pass it now or the sky falls!

Unless of course they choose to piss off the gun lobby because Pelosi's ego is too big to believe her will is being defied.

kf6zpl
03-12-2009, 09:58 PM
An "ego" is a terrible thing to waste.....

chasinternet
03-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Well crap - I just read the BRC release - All "ego" aside, I hate being right about this.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&page=H3278&position=all
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&page=H3279&position=all
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&page=H3280&position=all
Change the H3280 in the url and you can get page after page of the fun.

Some comments made during the bill debate:

The Senate's rubicon of not changing one word has now been crossed. S. 22 has been amended. So then why isn't the House allowed to consider additional amendments except the one approved by Democrat leaders. If we change one part of the bill, then this House deserves the opportunity to consider it in an open and fair manner....
...This bill bans recreational access to millions of acres of public lands despite proponents' claims that it will protect vast new land areas for the appreciation of Americans. Lands that citizens currently use for enjoyment will be barricaded from recreational vehicle use. Riding a bicycle won't even be allowed. The harm to American's outdoor enjoyment is so outrageous that even ESPN has covered it - Mr. HASTINGS of Washington

"Contrary to stated cost estimates, CBO has stated this package is budget neutral. And according to just about every environmental, outdoor recreation, sportsmen's and historic preservation group, it's the best thing they've seen in a long, long time." - Mr. Grijalva of Arizona, subcommittee Chair of National Parks Subcommittee


Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1 1/2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Nunes). Mr. NUNES. Mr. Speaker, this bill contains a provision called the San Joaquin River Settlement. It's a poison pill that targets my constituents. If you vote for this bill today, you vote to end agriculture in the San Joaquin Valley. This bill simply dries up 300,000 acres of farm ground. We already have 16 percent unemployment in my district. This bill ensures 20 percent. I thought this Congress wanted to create jobs. Do radical environmentalists really possess the power to force Congress to choose dead fish over living communities? How could this possibly be in the best interest of our country during these economic times? Spending $21 million per fish to recover a mystic Salmon run is completely irresponsible. Citizens Against Government Waste and the National Taxpayers Union have labeled this ``The Billion Dollar Fish Fry.'' Mr. Speaker, if you like tumbleweeds, dry dirt, bankrupt farmers, communities without water, and people without jobs, you're going to love this bill. If you believe that the most basic rule of government is to provide water to the people, you must vote ``no.'' It's hard to imagine a more flawed approach than the one this Congress has taken today. Greed, dishonesty, and the vain hope of relief from lawsuits seem to be the primary motivation for passage of this bill. Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this disastrous piece of legislation


The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the gentleman from West Virginia (Mr. Rahall) that the House suspend the rules and pass the Senate bill, S. 22, as amended.
The question was taken.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the opinion of the Chair, two-thirds being in the affirmative, the ayes have it.
Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX and the Chair's prior announcement, further proceedings on this motion will be postponed.

navy-jeepster
03-13-2009, 11:00 AM
chasinternet

Thanks for the update.
We are not done with this fight, as this bill will be back up on the floor very soon.

I am drafting email letters to my representatives that voted and did not vote.
Each one will be different depending on how they voted.

Thanks

Todd