I ran across a reference to stainless steel frames for a few models of Glocks. After a bit of search-fu I found CCF Raceframe which are made in aluminum and stainless. Does any one have experience with them?

I don't, but I know of a couple IPSC Glock fanatics that bought them- and they like them.

If that's the case, Protec, they're definitely in the minority.

There's a long thread on them in the Glock forum at braineos.com ... Short version? Of the VERY large number of guys who tried to make one work, approximately two of them were happy.

The things have a lot of problems. Or more specifically, factory Glock parts have problems with them.

Both the guys I know do lots of mods, are well versed in gunf*ckery, so how much effort they went through to make them work I don't know.

They work and are running them.

I'll ask for a problem/fix list next time I see them.

Do that. The guys I know who've tried them had severe issues with parts breakage, regardless of how they were tuned. Extremely competent Glocksmiths, too.

Just weren't worth the trouble.

what is the advantage of having a stainless/aluminum frame Glock?

what is the advantage of having a stainless/aluminum frame Glock?

IIRC you can get a different grip angle, upgrade from a 1st or 2nd gen frame with no acc. rail, stiffer, different checkering. personal preference IMO.

what is the advantage of having a stainless/aluminum frame Glock?


reduced recoil due to greater weight. Also not made of plastic:flipoff2:

Triggers are better, too. More rigid platform to apply pressure rearward against the striker spring.

Everything I know about Glocks is that they work. In stock form they just plain work, whenever you need them to.

Given that I cant see that the benefits listed would be worth compromising the reliability of a Glock in its stock form.

Everything I know about Glocks is that they work. In stock form they just plain work, whenever you need them to.

Given that I cant see that the benefits listed would be worth compromising the reliability of a Glock in its stock form.

I would imagine that these frames are marketed towards people who compete, not people who depend on these guns for protection. Match shooters are willing to give up a little reliability for a little speed.

Luke

No, we're damn sure not.

A gun that doesn't run 100% is absolutely worthless when you're on the starting line at a State Chamionship... or god forbid, the Nationals.

Something interesting to note: Every really good Glock shooter (as in, waaaaay better than myself) I've ever talked with has run a virtually stock pistol. Recoil springs, 3.5 connectors, and sights are about the only things they change. Because they enhance performance without compromising reliability.

I know a lot of people at my skill level, and below, who have aftermarket triggers (Vanek or Glockworx) and all sorts of other crazy mods. Their guns tend to run 99.8% of the time. Very reliable, but not perfect.

The worst reliabiltiy comes from guys who just started competing a few months back, and think they can buy speed. They seem to go through the aftermarket accesories catalog with the crap magnet on. Trigger parts from 3 different places mixed together. Recoil buffers, *heavier* recoil springs, steel guide rods, aftermarket mag catches and slide stops, etc. These guns RARELY work well.


If you're curious, here's what's in my 34:
13lb spring (factory rod)
Sights (All black Sevigny competition)
Grip tape
Wolff trigger spring
Wolff striker spring
Lightened factory striker
LWD 3.5 connector

OK that was a poor choice of words for the point I was trying to make.

I agree that a match gun needs to be 100% reliable.

A NASCAR Nextel Cup car needs to 100% reliable also but you wouldn't use it for the same purpose you would use a showroom stock car for. See what I'm getting at?

Luke

Carrying on with the race car stuff.....

Lynn St James got her best Indy 500 finish by being "reliable".

9th place.

The real racers pushed themselves and their gear, and some figuratively and literally, crashed and burned.

But 8 of them did not.

BE isn't blocked at work. Enjoy.

Oh, it was locking blocks and buffers that they tend to eat. I knew it was something...

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=69241
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63916
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56581

There are others. I just searched for 'raceframe'