I was going to use a front XJ drive shaft with the CV joint for the rear of my YJ. but after I got it I noticed the tube diameter is really small.

any one know of another CV driveshaft that would be readily available in junkyards? I want a CV joint, a good sized shaft, and 1310 or 1350 u joints. if the CV uses 1350 then I need a yolk that will fit a 300

relevent specs: dana 300, dana 44, 94ish YJ

any ds from a FSJ

the one your talking about is either 1 1/4 tube don't use it! or its 1 3/4 - .095 there marginally okay mainly for a spare - sooo if your running a 1310 shaft carry a spare - or pick up a front shaft out of a 1/2 chevy truck pre- 76 that's a tom woods 2" .120 wall special custom driveline - well we all make custom driveline's :D -Jess

I am pretty sure it was 1.75". I didn't realize how small it was until I put it up to my current drive shaft.

so what you are saying is that a pre 76 chevy has a 1310 CV joint on it? if so that is what i need.

also I would love to be able to afford one of the high angle DS but currently I am only paying $8 for the DS from a pull-a-part and then doing to labor on it myself. I occasionally go and get it balanced. trust me once I can afford one I will get it. I would love to have one of your 1350 CV shafts!!!!

gordon i hear ya its all good- just for refrence our 1310 c/v 2" tube 34 degree shaft is 289.00 i beleive that to be pretty competitive- but yes on the pre 76 front shaft and hell 8$ you cannot go wrong- unless you win in our drawing this month- :D Jess

Yup, they don't call him the driveshaft man for nothing, pre '76 Chevy front should be easy to find, or you could use Early Bronco, or full-size Bronco shafts. Lots of cars had CV rears, but mostly large tube, hell, some old Fords and Lincolns had CV's at both ends, but you'd be better off with the 4WD stuff.

Originally posted by onetoncv
gordon i hear ya its all good- just for refrence our 1310 c/v 2" tube 34 degree shaft is 289.00 i beleive that to be pretty competitive- but yes on the pre 76 front shaft and hell 8$ you cannot go wrong- unless you win in our drawing this month- :D Jess

that is an excellent price. much less than any local shop!

I just got back from pull-a-part and didn't mind any pre76 shafts :(

also I am not Gordon??? or did I miss something?

and if you would like to put me at the top of the list for the drawing I would really love it!! but the only luck I have ever gotten is all bad luck. BUT YOU COULD CHANGE THAT!!!

I have 2 XJ driveshafts that have been shortened to fit my YJ. Both were 2 X .120 tube with 1310 series components. It was strong enough for the front of a cherokee at 40" long so I suspect that it would be plenty strong at half that length(19") for a 4banger with 33's.

If you are looking for something beefier then by all means look under the skirts of every old Chevy 4x4 in the boneyard. Some are BEEFY! Keep in mind though, a larger diameter tube could also have a thinner wall. Doesn't matter though 'cause a bigger tube contributes more to the strength than a thinner wall. I say this so that you don't snag a Chevy shaft and get disappointed that it's not .120 wall when you have it shortened. Maybe someone can post their experience with Chevy front shafts and the tube dimensions. Standard tube dimensions are as follows:
1.25 X .120
2.00 X .120
2.50 X .065
2.50 X .083
2.50 X .120

Check out this thread.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25320

That's nutty, I was just doing the same thing...(even talked to Jess today).

I am using some EB rears, they are measuring 23.5 and 24.5" collpased length, 2.5" tubes. My problem is finding ones without worn splines or centering balls. The centering balls ("wobblers" as Jess calls them) I can deal with.

Unfortunately, even though Chevy trucks are definitely the most common form of tramsportation, the pre 76s are almost impossible to find (rusted away or crushed).

Not all the XJ's have that spindly ass driveshaft keep looking around the yard and you should find a better one. The one your talking about has a CV looking boot at the top of it and it looks like something for a Kia not a Jeep. We found only one down here where I live out of an XJ last weekend so good luck. Is there a certain model or year that uses that driveshaft?

I just picked up a front CV shaft from a 75 GM 1/2ton last week. Cost me $40 for the shaft, $10 per u-joint, $45 for the CV yoke for my NP205 and $50 for the recentering kit. So far, my total is $165. Add $50 for shortening/balancing (future project) and that brings us to about $205 (no tax included there). Not bad I think.

Chris

I have found many (dozens) cherokee and wagoneer driveshafts that are either 1 3/4" or 2" in diameter (I believe 1.75" for most). They were all $12 at the pic n' pull (I tell them it's a cherokee REAR :D). I have taken home about a half dozen. They have all been .120 wall.

Originally posted by tys
I just picked up a front CV shaft from a 75 GM 1/2ton last week. Cost me $40 for the shaft, $10 per u-joint, $45 for the CV yoke for my NP205 and $50 for the recentering kit. So far, my total is $165. Add $50 for shortening/balancing (future project) and that brings us to about $205 (no tax included there). Not bad I think.

Chris

if I can ever find one again I will have $8 in the DS, 3x$10 for the u joint, and that will be it. so that will be $38.

I will shorten it my self, and with a dial indicator they get pretty damn close to being balanced that way. if not thought it would be another $30 to have it balanced.

the last 5-6 DS I have made have been close enough that they didn't need balanced.


the problem is like the other guy has, there are no early 70 trucks in GA. all the rednecks already got em! or they have been crushed or rusted out! argh!

I am going back to pull-a-part at lunch today to look around again!

Well since I am a cheap bastard
and would rather try to build it for half the price I have also used the front cherokee driveshaft trick

Well here is an '98 XJ front driveshaft switched to be used in the rear of my XJ.

http://www.custom4x4.com/images/Dcp_0001.jpg

Ken C

I also have a front CV shaft from an 87 XJ Limited. I could have used it too, but the only problem with those style shafts is that the center ball is not greasable. So, that's why I chose the GM style. I don't know if you could mix/match parts though. Should have tried it while the GM was apart. :rolleyes:

I'd consider selling it if someone is in desire need of it...

Chris

Originally posted by tys


I'd consider selling it if someone is in desire need of it...

Chris

yea I need but I am only willing to spend $8 on the parts.

Originally posted by tys
I also have a front CV shaft from an 87 XJ Limited. I could have used it too, but the only problem with those style shafts is that the center ball is not greasable. So, that's why I chose the GM style. I don't know if you could mix/match parts though. Should have tried it while the GM was apart. :rolleyes:

I'd consider selling it if someone is in desire need of it...

Chris

Hmmmm..... both of my shafts came from parted out 87 XJ's and they both have fully greasable CV assemblies. I agree, hold out for one that does have the grease fittings. A TJ front shaft will work but it has no grease fittings. You can tell at first glance whether or not they are greasable by the hole in the center H yoke. It requires a needle zirk fitting on the grease gun though.
http://home.earthlink.net/~klawlernc/dcp00854.jpg

Also, one thing Bruiser forgot to mention above is that he did not have to have the length of his front shaft modified to work with the RE hack and tape. He just had to have the centering assemble replaced to accept a flange instead of a yoke.

Neither my XJ of GM CV section has the hole that your pic shows. My GM was is greasable though, and true it does require the needle type grease fitting. Like I said, it may be possible to interchange parts between the two, making it a greasable unit. They are both Spicer shafts and both use 1310 style u-joints.

As far as letting it go for $8, sorry, no can do. I spent more than that in gas alone just driving to the junk yard!

Chris

Here's my cutdown 87 XJ spare shaft. Although the pinion end looks smaller it's not made of tube. It's a Spicer 2-3-8001KX 1310 slip yoke which is standard on most Chevy 81-87 factory driveshafts.
http://home.earthlink.net/~klawlernc/dcp01085.jpg

wonder if I could just get some DOM with the ID the same as the Xj shafts and the OD like 3" or something. I don't know do they make .5" wall thickness? I know they make .25' wall thickness.

GaJeep, check out these pages. You can glean lots of info about shaft components on this site. Even put together a recipe for your own shaft. Spicer also has an online catalog but it's so big that I couldn't download it all.
http://www.rockforddriveline.com/procuctspecifications.htm
http://www.rockforddriveline.com/spicerto.htm