A few of you guys on here are familiar with my rig that I built. It started life as a 1967 2wd when I purchased it many years ago now. Over the years it has had alot of suspensions/lift options. I finally got tired of the tall height last year when I was racing it in mud drags. So I put the wrench to it again last night and here is what I came up with now.


Before:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ramboss429/1967%20Ford%20Build/before.bmp

After

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ramboss429/1967%20Ford%20Build/Truckpainted004.jpg

Low Pinion Dana 44
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ramboss429/1967%20Ford%20Build/Debut019.jpg

Currently - Dana 60 Front, Dana 60 rear, 4.10s, NP205, NP435, 390, 13x36x16 TSLs. Running stock '75 F250 springs up front, 4" Skyjackers in the rear.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ramboss429/P1020172.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ramboss429/P1020171.jpg

Now for some questions. Can I run crossover steering with this minimal amount of lift? If so what steering box do I need? Whats the cheapest way to lock my front axle without welding the spiders that is still solid? My rear I welded, and I would like to lock the front with a locker of some sort.

I am planning on making this back into a DD around the farm, and maybe race it occasionaly. Its going to get some Flowmasters Super 44s on it next week when they arrive from JEGS, as well as a new Edelbrock Performer intake, and Edelbrock carb.

Feel free to flame away........:flipoff2:

Well I'm not gonna flame shit.....that's a badass old rig. I mean, a rear bumper wouldn't be a bad idea, but other than that, it's pretty slick.

As far as crossover for the front goes, you need to take a couple close up front suspension pictures of your truck with the new Dana 60 in it like you did with the 44, so we can see what you're working with as far as clearances, etc. The dana 44 and the Dana 60 are two different animals.

Honestly though, for a truck from the 60's, thats a sweet old ride. I'd DD that thing fo sho...

zach - Thanks for the compliments. I have a thing for old iron, and something no one else has, which is why I built this rig to begin with.

It will be getting a rear bumper that matches the front one, I have it built, but I also have to finish my receiver hitch for it first. Once I get the receiver hitch mounted, I will have to do some tweakin to the bumper I'm thinking.

I need to find some shackles to weld on my bumpers as well.

I will get some closeups of the front suspension as soon as I eat some lunch and post them up.

I did have to notch out the engine crossmember to fit that 60 in the front. I need to get it on the forklift before I go much further into the build to see how the flex/compression is on the front to see if its going to work as it is, I may end up having to lift the front about 2".

Crappy steering I have now, can I swap that steering link to the top of the steering arm? That would keep it from binding on my leaf spring/u-bolts.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ramboss429/P1020173.jpg

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Hope this help give you guys an idea of what I'm dealing with now, any suggestions on how to get me power steering in this rig would be greatly appreciated!

Good looking rig! :smokin:

No ones going to flame you, and if they do tell 'em to eat a dick.

That rig is fawkin clean.:smokin:

i'll flame you

that front spring mount looks like fuckin ass with the crusted found in field piece of channel boogered on there.

i dont know how those front spring tabs haven't snapped off yet.... maybe cause theres no front driveshaft to apply any torque on it?

other than that. nice looking truck. continue on:laughing:

i'll flame you

that front spring mount looks like fuckin ass with the crusted found in field piece of channel boogered on there.

i dont know how those front spring tabs haven't snapped off yet.... maybe cause theres no front driveshaft to apply any torque on it?

other than that. nice looking truck. continue on:laughing:

If it was boogered on there it woulda fallen apart in the last 3 years when it had a front d-shaft and got flogged on daily. :flipoff2:

Give me till the end of the day and I'll prolly get time to fab up my front d-shaft. :grinpimp:

I'll play:

I also agree that front spring mount looks haggard. Do they have spray paint in South Dakota? The least you can do is prime and paint shit when you're done.

The truck is a cool idea but you need to spend a little more time fabbing things like the front spring hanger.

As for the steering box, I would look for a PS box out of a late model GM truck. They bolt to the inside of the frame and are easy to find.

I'll play:

I also agree that front spring mount looks haggard. Do they have spray paint in South Dakota? The least you can do is prime and paint shit when you're done.

The truck is a cool idea but you need to spend a little more time fabbing things like the front spring hanger.

As for the steering box, I would look for a PS box out of a late model GM truck. They bolt to the inside of the frame and are easy to find.


Yeah I won't argue with ya on that part. I rigged that together for a mud bog, and haven't ever gotten back to fixing it three years later. Thats the reason why it wasn't painted, if you noticed everything else on the truck has been painted. The front spring perches are going to get re-done sometime in the near future.

I got a good start on my front d-shaft this morning, should have it done today if all goes well. I also started making my custom dash for all my new gauges. I also made a receiver hitch for the rear, and started fabbing up my rear bumper as well.

Anyone know how to get my brake lights to work in this thing again? I've traced all the wires back and everything seems to be right, just have no brake lights. I never had to worry about them before, and they didn't work when I bought the truck as a 2wd either.....

When you say a steering box out of a late model GM what years are you talking? Do you think its possible to run crossover steering as well? I've never seen the steering on a late model GM, so I have no clue how it works under there. All I've ever owned has been Fords or a 2007 Dodge 3/4ton.

i'll flame you

that front spring mount looks like fuckin ass with the crusted found in field piece of channel boogered on there.

i dont know how those front spring tabs haven't snapped off yet.... maybe cause theres no front driveshaft to apply any torque on it?

other than that. nice looking truck. continue on:laughing:

I'll play:

I also agree that front spring mount looks haggard. Do they have spray paint in South Dakota? The least you can do is prime and paint shit when you're done.

The truck is a cool idea but you need to spend a little more time fabbing things like the front spring hanger.

As for the steering box, I would look for a PS box out of a late model GM truck. They bolt to the inside of the frame and are easy to find.

I wanna play too.... Eat a dick. :flipoff2:

Compared to a lot of shit that gets posted here, that is a nice looking truck. Ok, so the front hanger looks a little (well maybe a lot :D) fawked. Its low and simple, with some solid parts.

Nothing on there is flame worthy, aside form the front hangers.:rolleyes:

what engine do you have ? a 360/390 ? do yourself a favor and dont wast the money on the performer intake - in most cases its worse than the factory intakes ( well a factory 4 brl ) when i got one years ago it had smaller ports than the 2 brl intake it replaced

get the rpm intake or an offy

I wanna play too.... Eat a dick. :flipoff2:

Compared to a lot of shit that gets posted here, that is a nice looking truck. Ok, so the front hanger looks a little (well maybe a lot :D) fawked. Its low and simple, with some solid parts.

Nothing on there is flame worthy, aside form the front hangers.:rolleyes:


Pointing to shitty fab work to justify other shitty fab work is no way to make your point.

How much time would it have taken to make a front hanger out of 2x4 x .250 wall tubing and cutting a piece of 3x3 x .250 square tubing in half for the spring mounts?

I can tell you: about half as much time as bootyfabbing together channel iron and shitty tabs.


OK now to answer the OP's question:
You would have to convert that D60 to high steer or do a crossover steering conversion to use any of the aforementioned Dodge, Late-model Ford or Chevy steering boxes. I would recommend doing high steer because it involves replacing less parts. Crossover steering in general is way better than the push-pull style you have now.

I'd seriosuly like to know where you think my "shitty fab" work is going to fail?????? I've beat that setup for 3 years, and nothing has given? Sure it doesn't look like a custom/factory job, but believe me its burned in and its very solid.

Maybe if i spray some paint on it, it'll get the pirate salute.....:shaking:If only they offered spray paint here in SD......Maybe if some fawktards in CA quit huffing it, and drinking shitty f'in JD, it'd be available here.....:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Anyone know how to get my brake lights to work in this thing again? I've traced all the wires back and everything seems to be right, just have no brake lights. I never had to worry about them before, and they didn't work when I bought the truck as a 2wd either......

Ground, sound like a ground issue.

what engine do you have ? a 360/390 ? do yourself a favor and dont wast the money on the performer intake - in most cases its worse than the factory intakes ( well a factory 4 brl ) when i got one years ago it had smaller ports than the 2 brl intake it replaced

get the rpm intake or an offy

Or, if you don't care about weight and poser good looks, use a C8 'S' code stocker, wicked low end good to about 5k rpm or it sucks a valve.

Do they have spray paint in South Dakota? The least you can do is prime and paint shit when you're done.


Paint? Paint?? WE don't need no fawkin paint. Paint don't get traction or keep welds from failing.

I'd seriosuly like to know where you think my "shitty fab" work is going to fail?????? I've beat that setup for 3 years, and nothing has given! Sure it doesn't look like a custom/factory job, but believe me its burned in and its very solid.

All the proof you need. :D

Maybe if i spray some paint on it, it'll get the pirate salute.....:shaking:If only they offered spray paint here in SD......Maybe if some fawktards in CA quit huffing it, and drinking shitty f'in JD, it'd be available here.....:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Jack Daniel's is good shit, so I see no reason for JD-bashing. I'm not sure where the huffing paint thing came from since I'm fairly certain that is not a big CA thing. After all, I'm not the one using channel iron on my spring hangers.



Paint? Paint?? WE don't need no fawkin paint. Paint don't get traction or keep welds from failing.





Ah yes. A stroke of brilliance. Paint might not, but rust most certainly does. Why restore a nice truck without painting shit?

Although I can understand not painting said channel iron since the proper thing to do is cut it off and build a nicer x-member to go along with a pretty sweet rig.

I missed the intake question. I have been running a stock 2 barrel on this truck since I got it, with the cast intake. I've ran into a few problems not being able to keep enough fuel at higher RPMs, 4200+.

I bought an Edelbrock Performer and a 600cfm carb. I know the carb might be a lil on the small side, but a neighbor of mine that is a big Ford nut said to get it, and he'd get it dialed in for me no problem.

Ford Facist - The channel will be getting painted as soon as the rain quits pouring, just for you. I might even play with my new plasma cutter and box the channel in as well, then no one will know any different...haha

When I pull the truck out of the shop after everything is put back together, if its not sitting quite level (hard to tell in my shop as the gravel floor in the center isn't level). I will re-do the front hangers, and get it super beefy this go around.

As to the JD, I can't gut that stuff. Too sweet for me. I'm more of a Crown, Wisers, Seagrams 7 kinda guy myself.

I'll try to get some pics of my receiver, bumpers, new dash tomorrow as well.


What was the consensus, do you guys think there is enough room to do crossover steering on it? Those stock springs don't have much clearance under there.....

Also, I'm getting a radiator out of a '76 2wd truck in the real close future, also the power steering pump, bracket, will that steeringbox work for anything on this rig? The only rigs I have ever dealt with that had crossover was 2 Chevy's that my buddy built, never been around a Ford with x-over, so sorry for all the newb questions. And if anyone could post pics of their X-over steering on Fords and what they used, that would be awesome!

What was the consensus, do you guys think there is enough room to do crossover steering on it? Those stock springs don't have much clearance under there.....I dont think it will

Also, I'm getting a radiator out of a '76 2wd truck in the real close future, also the power steering pump, bracket, will that steeringbox work for anything on this rig? I've seen EB guys use 'em... I dont care for them in that app.(mounts to the inside of the frame factory, they move to the outside.. kinda wierd), but it should be possible

And if anyone could post pics of their X-over steering on Fords and what they used, that would be awesome! stay tune to my build thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=751633 .. no good pics of the crossover yet... but mine's a little taller than yours and it's gonna be tight

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