OK,

Let me be more clear:

I like my spring rate, (john doesn't make one as high) and so I needed to start thinking of spacers. Rather than buy a set, I am making my own. I have the dimensions and such if anyone else is interested. I should have them installed and tested this weekend. I am using 6000 series alluminium, and relocating the shocks up an inch in the front. I am doing one inch at first, and then two inch later.



Materials cost: $60 w/hardware.

Pics next week.


j

So are they 1" spacers? Or are they 2" with countersinking for the shock mount? The spring spacers that Rovertym makes are great but sometimes it is difficult to get to the bottom of the front shock mounts. Don't think there is too many ways around this unfortunately.

How much lift are you currently running?

I am currently at right under 3". I was above, but alas, lots of thing sag with age.

I am going to make the spacer 1" or whatever I decide to run before I get a vibration. The shock mount will be a plate on top of the spacer, and yes you would have to unseat the spring to change the shock. But come on, how often do you do that. I will be at Bill Morgan's probably friday night to do the install, as I don't have a press. :(

j

Just a thought but, Rovertym makes 5" springs. In fact Bill is going with these. You could get a similar spring rate and it would sag to 4" (where you want to be) and he only charges $275 for a set of four! That is damn cheap. I paid close to $100 each for my custom springs. This is nice as you get an all spring lift and you also get better ariculation. For the price you could sell your lift for, you might come ahead versus what you are doing. Why did you choose not to go this route??

Way..being a PITA

Originally posted by Way
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That's ok, we are used to it.

I am on 300lb springs, and I need them for load carrying/stability. I talked with John at length about this. He was very honest in that his 5" springs are great, but not any heavier spring rate than his 3" and variable at that. I like the static for load carrying. Also at 5" I am straight to a new driveshaft, which unless you buy my other house, is NOT happening.

I am merely trying to recover what I lost in sag.

However, if my shock plate works for the front, I can do any size and retain stock mounting, effectively increasing droop.

PS,

We are doing Chinaman's and camping this weekend if you are up for it. It is by Buena Vista

That's ok, we are used to it.

Ha... I love it.

Makes sense to me now. Good luck with the mod. Are you going to put any alignment modifications into the spacer itself?

Way

No, unlike some, I like to keep the variables to a minimum. I am not so worried about he castor, as I should only be adding .35~.5 degree. Besides, toe-in can compensate for some of the wander, as well as camber, well at least the feel. You can also adjust the stock steering box for drag which improves the feel without changing the pressure.


j

Originally posted by redrangie


I am on 300lb springs, and I need them for load carrying/stability. I talked with John at length about this. He was very honest in that his 5" springs are great, but not any heavier spring rate than his 3" and variable at that. I like the static for load carrying.



This is similiar to my the rear of my truck. I am running John's 3" springs and some 2" AL spacers. It really isn't 5" total inches of lift though. With the extra weight it turns out to be about 4" total. Rides really well though.

Just a month or so ago, i made some 2" spacers for the front and rear of my Disco. The only problem that i am run into is that the front springs are sort of curved now. I was thinking that if I shaved off the top at about a 5 degree angle that it would straighten up. Another problem is that When i flex, the Springs come very close to being completely compressed. I guess I should make some bumpstops, but damn they would have to be 3" long or more! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by WBDISCO
Just a month or so ago, i made some 2" spacers for the front and rear of my Disco. The only problem that i am run into is that the front springs are sort of curved now. I was thinking that if I shaved off the top at about a 5 degree angle that it would straighten up. Another problem is that When i flex, the Springs come very close to being completely compressed. I guess I should make some bumpstops, but damn they would have to be 3" long or more! :flipoff2:

Rovertym's Front Radius arms will correct the bent spring problem. Also check into Sumiit Racing for Energy Suspension 4.5" bumpstops. You just need to make a mount so that they mount up to the Rover frame. These bumpstops run around $50 a pair, but are very nice. I think SafariGard was selling them with the mount for the Rover for 2 or 3 times what they cost to make.

Originally posted by lwg


Rovertym's Front Radius arms will correct the bent spring problem. Also check into Sumiit Racing for Energy Suspension 4.5" bumpstops. You just need to make a mount so that they mount up to the Rover frame. These bumpstops run around $50 a pair, but are very nice. I think SafariGard was selling them with the mount for the Rover for 2 or 3 times what they cost to make.

And this is surprising how? I can't blame them though. Everyone needs to make a buck.

WBDisco,

What spring rate are you running. Sounds like they are too soft as well. If you are running variable rate springs, WHERE it is soft is not always good. Remember that by raising the mounting point, you are changing the fulcrum point for the spring as well in relation to the thrust angle of the weight.

j

I am running Bearmach Meds. I know they are shitty, but i like the soft springs. Do you think that if I put some OME Heavys that the compression problem might be averted? I am in the middle of making my own Radius Arms, a guy at a local machine shop is helping me so they will be safe to use (hopefully). I am in kind of a rush though with all this because of the SOLAROS meet in Sept. I also heard of people making some homemade bumpstops with a 2x4, do you think this would work temporarily? Peace :flipoff2:

2 x 4 box tubing...yes!

2 x 4" wood??...questionable. Might get you buy fora trail or two, but for the cost of steel in that amount, go steel!!

Usually you pay around $3 a foot for some 1/4" wall. At least in Durango where things are a bit more expensive you do. Spens the $4.50 and call it good. They will even cut it for you.

Way

Naw...I like the wood factor on a bumpstop relocator! Go with the wood man!

I thought about doing that, but I had enough scrap steel lying around so I used that...It would be the ultimate in conversation though when somebody notices.

--D

I was talking about 2x4 wood. Maybe even pressure treated! I will only be using them for about 3 days. Hell yeah! I am going wood:flipoff2:

Originally posted by RockRover
It would be the ultimate in conversation though when somebody notices.

--D

It would be the ultimate in ball busting if I saw it.

Originally posted by WBDISCO
I am running Bearmach Meds. I know they are shitty, but i like the soft springs. Do you think that if I put some OME Heavys that the compression problem might be averted? I am in the middle of making my own Radius Arms, a guy at a local machine shop is helping me so they will be safe to use (hopefully). I am in kind of a rush though with all this because of the SOLAROS meet in Sept. I also heard of people making some homemade bumpstops with a 2x4, do you think this would work temporarily? Peace :flipoff2:

I don't know that much about who makes what rate of spring. I do know that the EMU's are Static, where as just about everyone elses are progressive. It's what you NEED them for that matters. If you are like me, and always wheel with at least 500lbs extra weight on top of what the truck weighs, well then you probably need a static spring.

I was on a trail today and yesterday that made me wish for even stiffer stuff. I hit 40deg twice while my buddy's 'yota only hit 25!