: Hornady Leverevolution Ammo


pb4u4x4
03-30-2009, 10:03 AM
Has anyone used it? I picked up some in .30-30 just to see if it was all it is cracked up to be. I was just wondering if anyone has firsthand experience with it.

muddawg95yj
03-30-2009, 10:54 AM
Has anyone used it? I picked up some in .30-30 just to see if it was all it is cracked up to be. I was just wondering if anyone has firsthand experience with it.

I love it. I use it in my .444 Marlin and my dad uses it in his .45-70.
Edit to add: I shoot cloverleaf groups with my .444 at 100 yards.

Doc Holiday13
03-30-2009, 11:25 AM
Has anyone used it? I picked up some in .30-30 just to see if it was all it is cracked up to be. I was just wondering if anyone has firsthand experience with it.

Yes it is. Its even better now that hornady sells just the polymer flex tip bullets. With a newer lever gun you can shoot some hotter than commercial ammo reloads with great accuracy. My co-worker highly approves

pb4u4x4
03-30-2009, 12:00 PM
That's good to hear. I hope to get to the range next week to try out.

Numidian
03-30-2009, 01:43 PM
Just so you know, if you have a Marlin .30-30 with the micro groove rifling, the leverevolution ammo will shoot like shit, because the rifling can't grip the bullet

muddinmike
03-30-2009, 04:27 PM
i slung some out of a 44 mag revolver if that counts :laughing:

it went BANG

netwt12
03-30-2009, 05:50 PM
it's the most accurate ammo i've found for my marlin in .35 rem.

Drunk tank
03-30-2009, 06:12 PM
Just shot my new 45-70 yesterday and used Leverution ammo... pretty darn accurate! Thing kicked like a fawking mule though. I've gotten too used to shooting ar15's.... should have been holding that thing much tighter to the shoulder!

leben_sie_gut
03-30-2009, 07:44 PM
Just so you know, if you have a Marlin .30-30 with the micro groove rifling, the leverevolution ammo will shoot like shit, because the rifling can't grip the bullet

I've got a 336 in 30-30 that it shoots very well out of? I rarely hunted with this rifle given its 3-4" groups at 100 off of bags with Super-X, etc, but it'll put them all in a inch with these cartridges. They're all different though.

Numidian
03-30-2009, 08:06 PM
Is it an older 336 or a new one? The micro groove rifling is pretty recent iirc

Spork
03-30-2009, 09:18 PM
Is it an older 336 or a new one? The micro groove rifling is pretty recent iirc

Mine says micro-grove on it and I got it used over 20 years ago.

So what's the theory about this? Jacket too hard or too soft? Too small? I need to dig mine out of the closet and shoot it.

Numidian
03-30-2009, 09:26 PM
Mine says micro-grove on it and I got it used over 20 years ago.

So what's the theory about this? Jacket too hard or too soft? Too small? I need to dig mine out of the closet and shoot it.

I was told that the jacket doesn't conform to the rifling like a lead bullet and that with the hotter load the bullet moves too fast for the rifling to get a grip on the jacket, where a lead bullet would expand out and the rifling gets a good hold on it...

I personally have no experience with the .30-30 ammo at all, I've shot it from my brother's Marlin .45-70 guide gun but we were just shooting offhand, so I can't speak to any gains in accuracy.... I can say that it was hotter then the Remington Corelokt ammo he also had... It was like shooting high and low brass in a 12 gauge

Pat
03-30-2009, 10:05 PM
micro groove IIRC has been around for a long time.. My 336 shoots awsome with it too.. It is micro groove also.. And most 3030 ammo is jacketed now adays

sifa123
03-31-2009, 12:52 AM
Its even better now that hornady sells just the polymer flex tip bullets. With a newer lever gun you can shoot some hotter than commercial ammo reloads with great accuracy. My co-worker highly approves
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Protecsafari
03-31-2009, 06:08 AM
Microgroove is a higher rifling count of shallow depth IIRC.

It's probably best for jacketed bullets as being more shallow it would probably lead up faster.

My dad's Kart slided Goldcup is like that (.22 conversion).

I know that for the cowboy stuff maybe 10 or so years ago they figured folks would use lead, so went with "Ballard rifling".

Doc Holiday13
03-31-2009, 06:49 AM
Just so you know, if you have a Marlin .30-30 with the micro groove rifling, the leverevolution ammo will shoot like shit, because the rifling can't grip the bullet

Stop talking out of your ass Numi.....My co-worker has the micro rifling. The gun is no AR, but it will do 2 MOA

Fisheadgib
03-31-2009, 07:14 AM
Just so you know, if you have a Marlin .30-30 with the micro groove rifling, the leverevolution ammo will shoot like shit, because the rifling can't grip the bullet

This is absolute horseshit. Why are you offering advice in an area that you obviously know nothing about? Extremely eroneous advice at that!


Is it an older 336 or a new one? The micro groove rifling is pretty recent iirc

Microgroove rifling was introduced in Marlins .22 rifles in the early 50's, and in their centerfire lines in the late 50's. In around 1997, they went back to six groove ballard rifling in all but their .22 and 30-30 rifles.


I was told that the jacket doesn't conform to the rifling like a lead bullet and that with the hotter load the bullet moves too fast for the rifling to get a grip on the jacket, where a lead bullet would expand out and the rifling gets a good hold on it...

I personally have no experience with the .30-30 ammo at all, I've shot it from my brother's Marlin .45-70 guide gun but we were just shooting offhand, so I can't speak to any gains in accuracy.... I can say that it was hotter then the Remington Corelokt ammo he also had... It was like shooting high and low brass in a 12 gauge

Whoever is giving you all of your new found firearms and ballistic knowledge should be kicked in the balls. Nothing you've posted as fact is remotely close to being correct.
Jacketed bullets work fine with microgroove rifling. The issue has been with cast bullets. Cast shoots fine as long as the bullets are sized larger, and a gas check is used.

To the OP, leverevolution is supposed to be the greatest thing since peanut butter. The better BC lets them retain more energy for a greater distance. I personally think scoping a levergun is just wrong as is chambering one for a bolt gun caliber. It would take a scoped rifle to take advantage of the increase in range, as I won't take a shot at a deer at more than around 150yds with open sights. As for accuracy, I haven't handloaded them yet, but I'm fairly confident that they will be more accurate than the 300gr to 408gr flying ashtrays that I usually shoot through my 45-70. If I ever run low on the 170gr Hornady flat points that I use in my 30-30, I might give them a try. Good luck trying to find the bullets in stock though if you want to load them.

Numidian
03-31-2009, 08:12 AM
I was just saying what I was told.... Thats what the old guy at my local gunshop back home told me...

Thats what I get for listening to the guys in the gunshop... These guys usually know what they're talking about. I guess I'll have to start double checking the shit they tell me LOL