I just purchased some new blinkers from CCOT and I can't get them to blink properly. Both blinkers will work when I pull the hazard lights but when I try to use the blinker switch they just light up and stay on, no blinking. When I turn on all of the lights only one of them lights up like it should. The blinkers have two wires just like my old ones and fit into the old spots. My old blinkers however were only orange, not orange and white. The old blinkers worked correctly but were pretty banged up.

what is going on?


:mad: :confused:

Donald

I have 0 experience with cruiser blinkers but here's a few things... Are the 2 wire both positive, and it gets ground through the mount? maybe they are not wired right?

Also, if the bulbs are of a different wattage than the old ones, the flasher might not be working right... I'd swap to a cheapie electronic one.

I assumed because I ordered these from CCOT that they would work on a Landcruiser, so far they don't seem to. I really don't know what it could be.

:mad:

wrong year, prolly. The blinkers you bought are 3-bulb. I think your old ones were either single or dual

The reason they don't blink is that they aren't sinking enough current to heat up the relay so that it trips. The same thing happens when one bulb is burned out. Check the connections and the ground to make sure that the current can flow properly.

yes the problem is that you have the new style blinkers. try to wire it up so that the orange is connected to the proper blinker circuit and so the other two (white and side marker) are wired to the parking lights...that should get ya goin.

hth
Max

EDIT: notice that in your pic that there is a side marker on the side of the body just above the fender? that is a telltale sign that you have the wrong blinker. the years that used the blinker you have now you will notice they have no side marker on the body, just on the blinker.

if you are not emotionally attached to that side marker on the body, connect that wire to the wire on the blinker that controls the white and side marker lights.

-Max

Mr McGee is right about the wiring, but if the new ones still don't blink, get an electronic blinker box from your local parts store...They're a generic design, it took me 3 hours to install (staring at the sun and cursing the PO's wiring), but man, it's worth it. You can do whatever you want to the blinkers and they still blink:)

Oh, cruisers only use a 2 wire blinker box, FYI. I think all year 40's had the same type of box, doesn't matter, though, if you upgrade it:)

It is the gound! I just went through this tonight.
Turn your blinker on, while the bulb in front is lit but not blinking
run a jumper wire from the mounting stud under the fender to a good ground, maybe to the battery ground. The blinker will probably start to blink. If that works just try to get a better ground on the fender to the stud, I justed turned the nut back and forth and it started working.

P.S. it is not the blinker relay!

the blinkers work when I turn on the hazards just not when I try to use the blinker switch you know? I'm going to try some more things tommorow. Thanks for the information, keep the ideas coming.




Donald;)

Dude same thing is happen to me on my pickup. When you figure out let me know thanks a lot. PS new lights look good.

Ok, have you tried only wiring in the turn signal itself and not the parking lights yet? And is it the parking lights ro the actual blinkers blinking?

I am not sure about the different years but on my 78 I had the same problem and the Texican told me to run a seperate ground and it worked. Just run it from the screw that holds the bottom reflector in place then down through the mount and to one of the bolts that goes to the body. It is easy to test first to see if it works. To fix it it took bout 15 minutes.

been there, done that.
Exactly the same problem...
(I'm 24V, but otherwise it's all the same.) the wire between the fuse box and the hazard switch was half melted probably, and was resistive enough so that there was only 12V or so to the flasher, which made it turn on but not blink. I put another wire to double the one I thought was the culprit, (or did I put a straight wire between the fuse box and the flasher ? Yes it's probably that...) and it worked fine then...
I had a pretty hard time finding where the problem was. Anyway, I havent redone that part of the harness yet. This was on my (just bought) '80 which I hoped would pass the tech. inspection so that I could get the papers. It failed because of the parking brake and TREs. Fixed the brake, fixed the TREs. Take the inspection again... failed because of unbalanced front (drum) brakes... :mad:
Then I gave up. I have the papers but cannot drive it.... It's all apart now anyway :flipoff2:

I remember having the problem on my'75, too. That time the + wire to the lamp holder had unsoldered, and went in contact with the ground in the box... Or was it the contrary... Anyway, my blinkers used to work before, then they didn't anymore. I had to replace the flasher that time, and my EDIC ( electric diesel injection control ) failed at the exact time when I blew the blinkers fuse :confused: ... Dammit !
I couldn't find the problem until recently, because it used to click as it should be... But the EDIC used to stay locked in the stop pos.. (or was it normal-injection.) I took the f****** motor out, took it aprat, cleaned the contacts, etc... (it's a real PITA to get that thing out) and when I bolted it back on, it still didn't work. Actually the problem was a bad ground, which I fixed. The it started again, but the EDIC lever would stay on OFF this time, which sucked even more. When I used to unplug the ground of the EDIC relays when starting, the thing would stay on ON luckily, but would go back to stop if plugges the groud back...
This was a bad contact eventually, one of the round contacts was slightly loosened, this was why the thing used to act weired when shaking the relays box...

My point is maybe you problem doesn't have an obvious fix, and you may end up spending a few hours to find where it comes from... Good luck anyway... Vintage auto electrics are fun ! :flipoff2:

Check all the contacts everywhere, as well as the voltage in the lines...

HTH,

ok, works with the hazards but doesn't with the blinkers? ever think of changing the blinker relay??

IT IS THE GROUND, NOT THE BLINKER RELAY!

Mine did the same thing. The emergency flashers worked fine
but the blinker would just light up and not blink.

You said the blinkers worked before you put the new ones on right! Well that eliminates all the problems except the new blinkers.
There is no need to go and rewire the entire cruiser because of a bad ground at the new blinker.:rolleyes:

Once again:

The new lights are not the same as the old lights
Therefore, the wiring is different.

Thank you.

Sorry if it sounds prudish.

Both lights, old and new only have a running light and a blinker.
2 wires a one for the blinker (bright part of the bulb), and one for
the running lights(dim part of the bulb). It does not matter
what the shape of the blinker housing looks like or how many bulbs it has in it(I think the new light has two bulbs) it SHOULD
not matter! They both do the same thing electrically, they just look different!

So "The new lights are not the same as the old lights"
does not change the way a blinker circuit work!!!!!!!!



CHECK THE GROUND AT THE LIGHT!!!!!

Sorry if this sounds prudish.:flipoff2:

The old lights would only have had the turn bulb in them,t he running lights are the ones on his apron...

Now, :sniff: you've got me upset. I shall go back to work now:eek:

I'm sorry you are WRONG!!!!!!! His old light DO have the running lights in them, NOT just the blinker.
His old front blinkers are the same as the ones I have on my Cruiser now, and yes they do have a running light, and yes they
do wire with two wire like his new ones!

:flipoff2:

It doesn't really matter what kind of lights they are. You could even put Cadillac lights on it. :eek:

The reason they don't blink is that it isn't drawing enough current. Either the ground is bad, the hot connection is bad or the bulb is wrong. :D

my old blinkers did light up as running lights also and they did have two wires. I've got to play with it tonight and maybe tommorw and finish this task

Donald

You didn't accidentaly wire the park light as the blinker did you? That would not draw enough current to make the flasher work.

David

Um, curious, is it possible that the newer style lights used the mount itself as the ground, and the older ones had a wired ground?

change the flasher unit, (on the firewall behind your break and accelerator pedals (but a little higher) the flashe unit, to buy is an aftermarket one, that is not load sensitive

running LEDs, that draw no power, i figured they wouldnt allow the flasher to work, and sure enough it didnt, so i swapped in the new flasher unit......EASY and works too

The old style blinkers were grounded through the mounting stud.
That is why there is only two wires not three.

Did you ever get the blinkers to work?

the new lights DO! use the mounting stud as the ground! trust me! I went throught the sams troubles. Remedy (because of rust) was to use one of the little screws in the housing as a ground point, ran a wire from that to a good ground in the engine bay along with the light wires. Worked just fine till I put the 70 lights on.