Just received my lower receiver and LPK from Pete, and in an excited hurry to assemble it, I screwed up. :shaking:

I installed the trigger guard backwards and put the roll pin in the hole by the magazine as opposed to in front of the grip. So my question is how do I remove this blind roll pin. It's only sticking out a couple millimeters and in there pretty tight.

I read online a little and heard of a tool designed specifically for this task. Something you pound into the roll pin and then it latches on with barbs and you pull it out. I can't seem to find it anywhere though, anyone know the name of it?

I tried pulling it out with channel locks with no luck, might try vise grips.

Also, the safety selector will only go about half way from fire to safe unless the hammer is cocked. Is this normal? Any idea what's wrong?

Thanks

Just received my lower receiver and LPK from Pete, and in an excited hurry to assemble it, I screwed up. :shaking:

I installed the trigger guard backwards and put the roll pin in the hole by the magazine as opposed to in front of the grip. So my question is how do I remove this blind roll pin. It's only sticking out a couple millimeters and in there pretty tight.

I read online a little and heard of a tool designed specifically for this task. Something you pound into the roll pin and then it latches on with barbs and you pull it out. I can't seem to find it anywhere though, anyone know the name of it?

I tried pulling it out with channel locks with no luck, might try vise grips.

Also, the safety selector will only go about half way from fire to safe unless the hammer is cocked. Is this normal? Any idea what's wrong?

Thanks

Dunno about the roll pin, but the safety is normal, thats how they always are.

The safety thing is normal, it is how it was designed.

Are you sure the reigger guard roll pin is blind? I just looked and mine is not blind. If I was in your spot, I would drill it out, and use a slightly larger pin.

The safety thing is normal, it is how it was designed.

Are you sure the reigger guard roll pin is blind? I just looked and mine is not blind. If I was in your spot, I would drill it out, and use a slightly larger pin.

It's not blind if you put it in the correct hole, which I did not. :(

screw a screw into it and pull it out?

screw a screw into it and pull it out?

i see what you are trying to say, but wont the screw swell the roll pin and make it even harder to pull out?

i would try vise grips. but if that dont work, drill it out to the next size, and go to the hardware store and buy the next sized roll pin

How about just drilling just the roll pin, then trying to pull it out, maybe you can get it to crush in on itself and come out that way?

I think he's going to have problems if he drills out the lower considering that hole doesn't actually take a roll pin, but it takes the front of the trigger guard, which you can't just buy one with a diff sized pin

right i forgot about that the little button goes there so you can swing the trigger guard down

How about not giving a fuck because NOBODY swings down the trigger guard to use with gloves? :laughing:

Thats why it swings down? I never did understand that haha

Ha...ha, ha, ha....what an idiot!!!!












I just got my package from Pete tonight and did THE EXACT SAME THING!!. :laughing::laughing: The roll pin will not go in all the way into the blind hole, so, I sprayed some WD_40 in the roll pin, held the lower between my legs, pulled on the roll pin with a pair of needle nose pliers, and used my other hand to swing the trigger guard back and forth and the pin backed out slowly. Then I cleaned up the tweaked end with a grinder and installed it right.



Doc, your assembly threads needs help with the hammer installation, you don't really show how it goes in. I had to refer to barfcom.

i completely forgot about the swing down trigger guard!

wow....

Doc, your assembly threads needs help with the hammer installation, you don't really show how it goes in. I had to refer to barfcom.

If you can't get the trigger guard in right the first time, you shouldn't mess with anything that has potential to make things go boom. :flipoff2:

If you can't get the trigger guard in right the first time, you shouldn't mess with anything that has potential to make things go boom. :flipoff2:
I was tired, blow me.:p

Ha...ha, ha, ha....what an idiot!!!!












I just got my package from Pete tonight and did THE EXACT SAME THING!!. :laughing::laughing: The roll pin will not go in all the way into the blind hole, so, I sprayed some WD_40 in the roll pin, held the lower between my legs, pulled on the roll pin with a pair of needle nose pliers, and used my other hand to swing the trigger guard back and forth and the pin backed out slowly. Then I cleaned up the tweaked end with a grinder and installed it right.



Doc, your assembly threads needs help with the hammer installation, you don't really show how it goes in. I had to refer to barfcom.


LOL :laughing:, now I don't feel so bad. I sprayed a little Remoil on it and was wiggling it with pliers, but my needle nose pliers are stripped and couldn't get a good bite.

I think I'll try again tonight with some fresh needle nose pliers and vise grips.

If it doesn't work let me know.

Yeah, thats right, I did this once too :emb:

What I did was to take a cut off wheel and cut the trigger guard. Be easier to explain with a photo. But basically you cut through the guard and the pin about 1-2/32" in from the receiver. Cut front to rear.
You will then be able to twist the TG out of position.

I can send you a new TG. have a pile of them from all the RRA and magpul TG replacements.

I also have like 50 A2 pistol grips if anyone wants some.

How about not giving a fuck because NOBODY swings down the trigger guard to use with gloves? :laughing:

Well then WTF did I get the winter trigger guard from magpul!!!!:mad3::laughing::laughing: j/k

I haven't bought one yet but I do like the looks of them, plus I think there is a company that sells them for less

Doc, your assembly threads needs help with the hammer installation, you don't really show how it goes in. I had to refer to barfcom.

youtube
great video

part 1
YouTube - Assembling an AR-15 Stripped Lower 1 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA_Vkb2UB1w)
part 2
YouTube - Assembling an AR-15 Stripped Lower 2 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq4KfUaVp8M)

Sand off the end real good and weld some other similar sized material, like a nail, onto the end and use that to pull it out.

Well hot damn. The only thing I use to build lowers is a set of flat jaw channel locks, finishing nail, armorers wrench, tape, and a long allen key for the grip

Well hot damn. The only thing I use to build lowers is a set of flat jaw channel locks, finishing nail, armorers wrench, tape, and a long allen key for the grip

I built mine using two tube socks, a tube of KY, a small bag of catnip and a 6" adjustable wrench.



Oh and the aforementioned needle nose pliers.

Well, different pair of needle nose pliers was still no good. I pressed on it pretty hard before I realized it was in the wrong hole:rolleyes:. Still need to try some vise grips, but I don't have high hopes.

Might see if I can find a drill bit that will bore it out so it's real thin and will crush easily. I don't think I could easily or securely weld anything to that tiny roll pin, especially without boogering up my lower.

Pete, good to know you have extra trigger guards. I appreciate the offer, as cutting it may definitely be involved in rectifying this situation.

I was wondering why the trigger guard wasn't just integrated into the lower, at least I learned something out of this ordeal. :flipoff2:

A lot of effort wasted IMHO.

Easy to cut the TG close to the pin, then take out the center section, to pull each remnant part inward and keep the receiver holes at proper dim.

Sorry man, it is kinda funny.............if one just looks at the parts it should have been obvious how to put the thing in.

The fact that this is on some kinda hardcore fab/modification 4x4 site makes it even more funny.

What next? Somebody gonna arsebang their old lady for 5 years and ask for fertility doctor recommendations?

Really, I can kinda sorta maybe see making such a mistake on the AR assembly........but it's such a bonehead move, it should have been fixed on the quiet (not rocket science).

Asking for a fix................

A lot of effort wasted IMHO.

Easy to cut the TG close to the pin, then take out the center section, to pull each remnant part inward and keep the receiver holes at proper dim.

Sorry man, it is kinda funny.............if one just looks at the parts it should have been obvious how to put the thing in.

The fact that this is on some kinda hardcore fab/modification 4x4 site makes it even more funny.

What next? Somebody gonna arsebang their old lady for 5 years and ask for fertility doctor recommendations?

So sorry... I forgot you're perfect in every way and have never made a mistake :rolleyes:

some kinda hardcore fab/modification 4x4 site Wow way to nail it down there.... Why are you here anyway? A quick search of your posts shows a whole 5 posts not in OSR.... 1 in the classifieds(which was also your first post....you came here to sell your stock Jeep rims :rolleyes:), 1 in non-hardcore tech, 2 in mountain bikes and 1 in chit chat.... :rolleyes:

So sorry... I forgot you're perfect in every way and have never made a mistake :rolleyes:

Wow way to nail it down there.... Why are you here anyway? A quick search of your posts shows a whole 5 posts not in OSR.... 1 in the classifieds(which was also your first post....you came here to sell your stock Jeep rims :rolleyes:), 1 in non-hardcore tech, 2 in mountain bikes and 1 in chit chat.... :rolleyes:

ignore him, we do:laughing::laughing:

A lot of effort wasted IMHO.

Easy to cut the TG close to the pin, then take out the center section, to pull each remnant part inward and keep the receiver holes at proper dim.

Sorry man, it is kinda funny.............if one just looks at the parts it should have been obvious how to put the thing in.

The fact that this is on some kinda hardcore fab/modification 4x4 site makes it even more funny.

Really, I can kinda sorta maybe see making such a mistake on the AR assembly........but it's such a bonehead move, it should have been fixed on the quiet (not rocket science).

Asking for a fix................
You know, I've been resisting telling you what a pompous windbag you are but I'll take the time now. Go ahead and post up ANYTHING you've fabricated and you and I can compare talent. Anything at all. I'll be waiting.


Douchebag.:rolleyes:

My Jeep isn't hardcore.

But I do my own lifts and maintenance/repairs, have for 20 years, on several Jeeps (one built from a roll over). Still not hardcore enough for the other forums. I came here for ideas on how to fab stuff (bumpers initially), as I have access to a shop. Posted little elsewhere, read a lot though.

The stock rims........I got when I bought the tires. I never mounted them on my Jeep (nice try for spin). I did get $100 for them on Ebay, so my end result was five 32" MTRs in good shape for $200 out. Decent deal.

BTW I never put in a control arm backwards either ;)

Somebody else mentioned not Fing with guns if a person spaces kind of basic assembly.

Go burn a cross in his yard too.

I've been around a lot of guns, for most of my life. My dad had hundreds of guns at one time. And my engineering buds and I bought a lot of things too, and tested them (last count I have had over 150 items).

So this forum has topics I am more knowledgeable about, hence more posts.

So building a bumper gets you a bye on other basic design/assembly understanding?

Yeah, like when my skilled tradesman F'd the head on one of my ultrasonic wirebonders.......and he restored a car. Yeah, it measures force from 10 grams to 1000, so he used a hammer.

Brilliant.

Another fab artist smoked my freakin' half million laser reflow machine by doing boneheaded stuff.

I got a greivance for fixing his mistake.

Some of you guys act just like them.

Some of you do not, and I like reading/learning from your posts.

My Jeep isn't hardcore.

But I do my own lifts and maintenance/repairs, have for 20 years, on several Jeeps (one built from a roll over). Still not hardcore enough for the other forums. I came here for ideas on how to fab stuff (bumpers initially), as I have access to a shop. Posted little elsewhere, read a lot though.

The stock rims........I got when I bought the tires. I never mounted them on my Jeep (nice try for spin). I did get $100 for them on Ebay, so my end result was five 32" MTRs in good shape for $200 out. Decent deal.

BTW I never put in a control arm backwards either ;)

Somebody else mentioned not Fing with guns if a person spaces kind of basic assembly.

Go burn a cross in his yard too.

I've been around a lot of guns, for most of my life. My dad had hundreds of guns at one time. And my engineering buds and I bought a lot of things too, and tested them (last count I have had over 150 items).

So this forum has topics I am more knowledgeable about, hence more posts.

So building a bumper gets you a bye on other basic design/assembly understanding?

Yeah, like when my skilled tradesman F'd the head on one of my ultrasonic wirebonders.......and he restored a car. Yeah, it measures force from 10 grams to 1000, so he used a hammer.

Brilliant.

Another fab artist smoked my freakin' half million laser reflow machine by doing boneheaded stuff.

I got a greivance for fixing his mistake.

Some of you guys act just like them.

Some of you do not, and I like reading/learning from your posts.

you are a people person.

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Fab contest?

I never claimed to be a master fabricator, or any fabricator.

I just know how to fix fine pitch things, like scraping an aluminum wirebond off an active region IC, with hand lapped scalpel, under scope on the machine, to .001" without knicking the silicon.

Bumper no.

$3500- $100K hybrid engineering development unit that blew up......yeah I can fix that without messing other sensitive stuff up.

So.........in your fab contest you'd win.

Have no problem with stating that. Doesn't upset me one bit.

ignore him, we do:laughing::laughing:

You know, I've been resisting telling you what a pompous windbag you are but I'll take the time now. Go ahead and post up ANYTHING you've fabricated and you and I can compare talent. Anything at all. I'll be waiting.


Douchebag.:rolleyes:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's been fighting the urge for quite some time now....

And as for the last 3-4 posts from Protec in this thread.... Do you have multiple personalities? Because it seems you're having a conversation with yourself :shaking:

Somebody else mentioned not Fing with guns if a person spaces kind of basic assembly.

Go burn a cross in his yard too.

Here are the two posts... Now you'll notice 4in100 included a :flipoff2: guy... That means he's joking. Oh and 4in100 posts enough that we know he's a good guy and a nice guy.

If you can't get the trigger guard in right the first time, you shouldn't mess with anything that has potential to make things go boom. :flipoff2:

Here's your post... You're a fucking pompous ass who probably has double doors all through your house so that your head fits. You not only insulted wv4runner, but you insulted this entire fucking board. And also, your halfassed attempt at a backpedal on your post is weak at best...(note the bold and underlined portion is his edit)

A lot of effort wasted IMHO.

Easy to cut the TG close to the pin, then take out the center section, to pull each remnant part inward and keep the receiver holes at proper dim.

Sorry man, it is kinda funny.............if one just looks at the parts it should have been obvious how to put the thing in.

The fact that this is on some kinda hardcore fab/modification 4x4 site makes it even more funny.

What next? Somebody gonna arsebang their old lady for 5 years and ask for fertility doctor recommendations?

Really, I can kinda sorta maybe see making such a mistake on the AR assembly........but it's such a bonehead move, it should have been fixed on the quiet (not rocket science).

Asking for a fix................

I have fucked up things much worse then a roll pin in the wrong hole... I have posted about my problems, I have gotten responses on how to fix them. I have taken shit from people about it. But I consider those people my friends. I do not consider you a friend. I wouldn't walk up to a stranger and make fun of them making a mistake. I would walk up to a friend and make fun of their mistake(while I helped them fix it).

Now why don't I consider you a friend but other imaginary people I do consider friends? Every post you make has an air of supremacy, like you're on a higher plane then rest of us and you're being forced to come down to our level to teach us and that you just being here is a favor to us. Well guess what, we got along just fine before you were here and we'll get along just fine when you're gone.

ya what he said

o fawk i forgot about your brass i will send it tomarrow and i will catch the bill

Bumper no.

$3500- $100K hybrid engineering development unit that blew up......yeah I can fix that without messing other sensitive stuff up.

How nice for you. I build $120 million and up playplaces by myself. You still want to compare e-dicks outside of fab?

I once knew a guy who watched me while I lamented how I'd put something together wrong. He laughed and told me, " I know a thousand guys who can build things right. The really talented guys are the ones who can fix it when it all goes wrong."

Come talk to me when you've pulled your head out of your ass.

if one just looks at the parts it should have been obvious how to put the thing in.

The fact that this is on some kinda hardcore fab/modification 4x4 site makes it even more funny.

but it's such a bonehead move, it should have been fixed on the quiet (not rocket science).

Asking for a fix................

takes a man to ask for help when they screw something up

takes an insecure punk to try to appear superior while attempting to dump on said man