: Equal tire balance


mapdarb
09-01-2002, 06:13 PM
Does anyone use Equal? It's an internal tire balancing polymer?
It was featured in a catalog I got in the mail

Maine Jeepah
09-01-2002, 06:45 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=244153&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=244158&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

Lots of words and stuff at both of those links. :flipoff2:

Enough moisture causes it to "pill" supposedly, and this negates what it is supposed to do.

Also people have complained of it clogging valve cores when airing down.

Others I have read love it.

I can tell you in this kneck of the woods we get moistur in the tires one way or another...so its not a good idea.

I'm trying the BBs thing here shortly.
At least I can take em out and shoot stuff if it doesnt work.

MJ

reddwarf
09-01-2002, 07:57 PM
I'm using BB's......it actually helps. I need more I think, like about 750-800 (only have 600 each tire now), but it really did make a difference, especially at 55 MPH

SeaBass44
09-01-2002, 08:16 PM
I do, it works, look for my product review on this site in the coming months. I recently removed the tires and I used co2 and there was no clumping.

Mutt
09-01-2002, 11:20 PM
Equal uses special filtered cores...You could make your own clip on air-drying unit which will help, alot of the off-road truckers use it...But remember, the biggest bags are only 12 oz's, and most swampers i've seen take 24-40oz of weight (bias) so you will need two or three bags and thats ALOT of shit to be inside the tires...

Alot of the trucker guys that run coal buckets and dump-trucks use it and enjoy the performance, but when we take apart the tires it is awful hard on the inside of the rubber and blast the wheels off pretty good as well...Its basically looks like ground up plastic when you look @ it closely.

I say golf-balls or buy used radials for daily driving, i got mine free and will just haul the swampers to the trail.

fugly 2
09-02-2002, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by mapdarb
Does anyone use Equal? It's an internal tire balancing polymer?
It was featured in a catalog I got in the mail



Go to www.calbah.com and in their off road section you'll see info for "centramatics" . These bolt to your hub,are about the size of a brake rotor .Not a new idea but I've never used a set so I cant say if they're worth the money .



EDIT .For those people who had a cow over the prices ,this company is located in Australia .So all prices are Aus$ (or south pacific pesos to give them their real name)

mapdarb
09-02-2002, 05:22 AM
I wanted to try it and Les Schwab said I had to buy a whole case at arond 300 plus. To balance the tires?

ItsaCJ6
09-02-2002, 08:55 AM
I just did the BB thing. I spun my tires on the balancer first. Machine said I needed a total of 18 oz to ballance. So I put in 16 oz of BBs, and spun it again. Then the machine read 1.5 oz so I left it at that. So far only done the rears, I should have the fronts done in a month or so.

36's, and steel wheels

Don't forget if you blow a bead with the equal stuff, your more than likely going to loose some.

SeaBass44
09-02-2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Snake47720
the biggest bags are only 12 oz's, and most swampers i've seen take 24-40oz of weight (bias) so you will need two or three bags and thats ALOT of shit to be inside the tires...


a little wrong.....Equal sent me the stuff for a review, you are balancing the tire at the end of the tire, not the end of the rim, so less weight is needed. they told me 8 oz or so for my 35x16 boggers....... that's about twice as much as a 35x12:50 radial.Ask YotaCrawler[PhatPat] I put some in his front procomps that were horrible, he said they smothed right out;)

mj
09-02-2002, 11:51 AM
I have not seen Equal clump either, and I just used gas station compressors

KS Toy
09-02-2002, 07:36 PM
If you want/need to balance your tires, that is one thing. But...if your tires are out of round and you are trying to get a "smooth" ride it does not matter what you do,nothing will help. Just my $.02

mj
09-03-2002, 03:19 AM
If you want/need to balance your tires, that is one thing. But...if your tires are out of round and you are trying to get a "smooth" ride it does not matter what you do,nothing will help. Just my $.02

that pretty much sums up my swamper experiences

ZUK
09-09-2002, 09:35 AM
Seabass is right....since the equal is doing its job at a working radius of about 18" (in my case of a 36" TSL) and old fashion lead weights work in the 7.5" radui (15" rims)....that means .....(18 squared) divided by (7.5 squared) equals about 5.76................that means that an ounce of equal has the same effect as 5.76 oz of lead in the lesser radui...........a 3 oz package of equal (package size "F") should balance out a TSL that is up to 17 oz out.........this is a "static" balance. There's a place here in Phoenix that sells the F bags for $4.12 each. Guess where I'm going during lunch :) Will let you guys know how it works out. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/equal/

woody
09-09-2002, 09:41 AM
two words - GOLF BALLS

Equal has the problems mentioned above. BB's work and are cheap, but when you take a tire down on the trail, finding the BB's that fell out isn't easy. Much simpler to track down 4-5 golf balls.

A search will net you about 50 discussions on this.

My 38.5 bias SX's on bent 10" steelies run great at 60 mph with 5 golf balls inside each.

ZUK
09-15-2002, 07:20 AM
OK...as I said, I will let you guys know what I found out about Equal......I went to a local distributor here in Phoenix last week and purchased 32 oz of the stuff for about 46 bucks out the door. I placed 8 oz in each tire. Brand new 36x12.5 TSL bias ply tires. I have already put a couple hundred miles with the new product on the highway at speeds up to 75 mph.....there is still some tire shake at all speeds from 40 to 75 but not bad....I can feel it in the steering wheel and thru the seat.....a good ole fashion dynamic balance with lead weights probably has less shake. Some of this shake could simply be out of rounds tires and I realize that not even the best balance in the world will fix that. To kill a rumor----when removing the valve core to air down, you will not loose all of the equal out with the rush of air. BUT metal valve stem caps with the little o-rings are mandatory as all the valve cores will now likely leak. Don't know about the "clumping" effect. I prefer a dynamic balance with lead weights. FYI