: Done with Leaf Springs...What to do?


87YJ
04-19-2009, 06:12 AM
Ok, I'm slow, but I'm officially done screwing around with leaf springs. The question is where to go from here.

My rig is a YJ, SOA currently.
Ford44 (cut down) front high steer, Currie High pinion 9" rear. both with detroits and 4.56 gears.
35's
Stock 6cyl, NV4500, Atlas
sheet metal and frame are in great shape
Cage, armor, etc.

My requirements:
Drive it a couple of hours to go wheel, wheel all day with the 35-37 group and drive it home. I want it to just work.

Last, I don't want to spend the next year building this.

So what's the best path forward?

wranglerwilson
04-19-2009, 08:01 AM
Why are you done with leaf springs??

MonsterSeven
04-19-2009, 08:12 AM
finally you are done with the hard stuff. now move on to the essentials...radio, cup holders, and A/C.

87YJ
04-19-2009, 02:03 PM
English isn't my strong suit. Done as in Fed up and never want to wheel a rig with them again.

What's my best bet to get rid of them without a summer long project?

Link this pig, sell it and buy a TJ, throw some bacon on the hood and a match at it?

wranglerwilson
04-19-2009, 02:59 PM
I understand you dont want leaf spings anymore,I wonder why, I have a 95YJ, run SOA leaf springs and like them.I wonder what problems you have had to not want to run them anymore.

Dookey
04-19-2009, 03:31 PM
What's my best bet to get rid of them without a summer long project?


Give it to a local shop with worthy fab skills. Write check. Go wheel.

Seems pretty simple to me.

Mr.N
04-19-2009, 03:51 PM
I understand you dont want leaf spings anymore,I wonder why, I have a 95YJ, run SOA leaf springs and like them.I wonder what problems you have had to not want to run them anymore.
A well thought out leaf sprung suspension has many advantages.
Maybe your just giving up too soon.


If you want to run a linked system, this board is full of write ups.
Just make sure you've plenty of cash and know how to weld n/ fab.

SanDiegoCJ
04-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Poly Performance 3 link front and 4 link rear.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Poly-Performance-p-1-c-1166.html

jpfrk2001
04-19-2009, 06:02 PM
Give it to a local shop with worthy fab skills. Write check. Go wheel.

Seems pretty simple to me.

:lmao: Thats one way to get r done! You ever going to build another rig? Your first one came out sick!

Poly Performance 3 link front and 4 link rear.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Poly-Performance-p-1-c-1166.html

Thats not a bad looking kit. But I think the 1.75 x .125 DOM for the uppers wouldn't be enough. .250 wall is the minumum I would go If I linked mine.

Im running SOA all the way around and love the way mine performs. Does Damn good at the Hammers.

Never Monday
04-19-2009, 06:28 PM
Poly Performance 3 link front and 4 link rear.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Poly-Performance-p-1-c-1166.html

what he said


Thats not a bad looking kit. But I think the 1.75 x .125 DOM for the uppers wouldn't be enough. .250 wall is the minumum I would go If I linked mine.

that's plenty big, hell it's bigger than the Clayton uppers for the TJ

Dookey
04-19-2009, 06:50 PM
:lmao: Thats one way to get r done! You ever going to build another rig? Your first one came out sick!

YJ in the works. :smokin:

87YJ
04-19-2009, 07:34 PM
A well thought out leaf sprung suspension has many advantages.
Maybe your just giving up too soon.


If you want to run a linked system, this board is full of write ups.
Just make sure you've plenty of cash and know how to weld n/ fab.

To each their own. While leafs can work and I've been OK with mine over the past yeas, I don't belive they work as well as coils. Why?

I want a solid, quiet running rig for the road and trail. I was happy spring over on 33's, but the ride and handling was just OK. 35's with SOA springs has lead to too harsh a ride or too much wrap/hop to control. I've ridden with a couple of very well set up TJ's and the difference was amazing. Now I want to go there.

Spring under: Gives up flex; ride quality; high speed handling
Spring over: Wrap; bending springs, wander, high speed handling

I realize it won't be free, but the money tree doesn't appear to be blooming any time soon either. What I'm trying to figure out is to sell this rig and start over, use a DIY kit, or take it to a shop. What will give excellent results while still not breaking the bank.

Different companies have offerent link kits for the YJ's, but all of those seem to have dissappeared from the market - what is this telling me?

Mr.N
04-19-2009, 08:27 PM
To each their own. While leafs can work and I've been OK with mine over the past yeas, I don't belive they work as well as coils....
So your really looking for a better ride on the highway. no?

Hard to go wrong with a TJ w/ long arm kit...
TJ with the ORO airbags is very nice...

wranglerwilson
04-20-2009, 07:32 AM
If your mind is made up go for it. A well set up leaf spring SOA with quality springs and shackle reverses can ride better thain a stock TJ. Alcan springs almost level,antiwrap bar, shackle reversel(to keep from inverting the ft. shackles and bending springs). If you have wander it is not the falt of leaf springs and I have seen more TJs with death wobble than YJsbut you got to be happy with what you got So good luck.Sometimes folks try to go cheep with leaf springs (stock) When speending a little more money would make the system work well.

retardatwork
04-20-2009, 03:00 PM
from what I've seen and experienced from only one coilover conversion is its not cheap or easy. A lot of the little stuff will get you in the end. Buy one already done if your looking for the cheapest easiest route. If your into fabbing have at it but it will probably cost you more in the end. That being said I'm going to put coilovers in the front and leave the rear leaf sprung on my cj. The frame and axle width will kill you if you dont do the numbers first. You will bind like a mother fucker and the steering can only cycle so much without going full hydro. The tires may also make contact with the coils which would mean either redoing a whole lot of shit or going the cheap way with spacers. Lots to think about! What axles width do you have? Are you stretching it? I think you are going to bind if you leave the frame the way it is.

crashnzuk
04-20-2009, 06:01 PM
If you sell it, you will lose your ass. The only stuff that is selling is the shit that is a steal. Do your homework and take your time finding something that will work. Keep your rig together and keep using it. Get everything you need before you rip into your rig. You might check in the zuk forum, Okiezuk has a shop and sells link kits. They look quite good and I believe he can do one for just about anything as he doesn't specialize in zuks.
Travis..

no_bs
04-20-2009, 06:18 PM
The easiest way would be a a frame swap.... http://throttledownkustoms.com/framesHybrid.html . I wish I could afford them.

The Black Sheep
04-20-2009, 07:24 PM
I had a SOA YJ that I had dialed in really nicely. I never had an issue keeping up with or out wheeling a longarm TJ. Its all in the driver. Once everybody has good tires, lockers and suspensions, its all skill and balls after that. Wheel hop was the only problem. Bending leaf springs doesn't happen once its setup right, ride is just as soft as coils, road wander is the same between the two. My ideal rig would be a YJ SOA in the front and linked in the rear.

blysccr
04-20-2009, 07:32 PM
I had a SOA YJ that I had dialed in really nicely. I never had an issue keeping up with or out wheeling a longarm TJ. Its all in the driver. Once everybody has good tires, lockers and suspensions, its all skill and balls after that. Wheel hop was the only problem. Bending leaf springs doesn't happen once its setup right, ride is just as soft as coils, road wander is the same between the two. My ideal rig would be a YJ SOA in the front and linked in the rear.


x2....but all that coil overs and flex is so cool, but i love the "seat of your pants" stable feel of my yj