yea guys i have been searching and searching
I was wandering what is the lowest full size chevy running 42s or similiar?
I am bout to start on a friends k10 and im wanting to get this thing low. Were we will there are alot of washout spots and stuff like that and a high centered truck will not ride the bank without rolling
and yes its running LEAFS :flipoff2:

BODY:
motor moved back to center weight
2in frame z to move motor up and get tranny and tc from hanging below frame and i can set the axle ride height lower than if frame was in stock place
body drop...yes a stock floor body drop to lower the center of gravity since rockers and all are getting cut off for boatsides like these it really want sacrifice clearance just bring the roofline down 2.5-3.5in
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/jkwalkercchs/img00003.jpg
dove nosing and shortning the front that way the winch can be mounted without sacrificing front approach angle
exocage
and most likely ditchin the bed

MOTOR/TRANNY/TC
5.3 with ls6 cam,flat tops,milled heads,hand port & polish and tune---think i found an aluminum block 5.3
th400 manual valve body
atlas havent decided on 4sp or 2sp yet


WHEELS AND TIRES
recented H1s
42in TSLs or 43in SXs

FRONT:
52 inch fronts with the center pin moved forward
outboarded so i can tuck the springs up on the fram to compensate for the 4in lift they give since im tryin to stay low
shackles in the front instead of rear. I know that sounds dum but theres logic to it. I tried to draw something up but couldnt.
shacles? Is there one design that flexs more than another? boomerangs?
trail gears shackle mount
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/jkwalkercchs/208-1846-400.jpg
need a d60 the 10 bolt want last long

REAR:
diy4x4 wraptor anti wrap system
stock springs with center pins moved rearward
same shackle mount as front
14 bolt ff locked


hell i know im leaving some stuff out:homer:

how u think itll work any opinions?

Outboarded front springs with shackles in the front, no good. Everything else seems feesable.

If you're allready z notching the frame, why not put the shackle hanger on top of the frame, and c-notch the bottom for clearance.?
Or go spring under? Controls wrap better, and you could mount it all however you want.
With 42's you can rub springs where they are, let alone outboarded. You'll loose all your steering angle.
With as much cutting as you're going, 42's will fit with no lift easy.

How low do you really wanna go. I wish I was a little higher. Your 42s will helps some, but I only have 4" springs in my truck, shackle flip in the rear. I have a clocked t-case for flat bottom and running 39.5" tsl and I only have like 25" from the ground to bottom of skid. I am at factory k10 wheel base and I feel I get high centered a little more than I should.

The best mod I did was move the axles 6" forward on the frame. Helped greatly. I am in the process of moving the motor back a little more, so will see how that helps.
Best pic i have
437305

I have 4" lift on my blazer and it will run 42's with lots of cutting of the fenders.

Outboarded front springs with shackles in the front, no good. Everything else seems feesable.

yea i was thinkin outboarding might be a bad ideal just a thought

but shackles in the front is so bad why?

If you're allready z notching the frame, why not put the shackle hanger on top of the frame, and c-notch the bottom for clearance.?
Or go spring under? Controls wrap better, and you could mount it all however you want.
With 42's you can rub springs where they are, let alone outboarded. You'll loose all your steering angle.
With as much cutting as you're going, 42's will fit with no lift easy.


i was thinking about a spring over today but how would i do that with the way the 10 bolt is the casting is made for a soa i couldnt just weld perches on

yea i was thinkin outboarding might be a bad ideal just a thought

but shackles in the front is so bad why?

Hop over to the jeep side and check out some of the bent front springs on some of the YJs, when you stuff the front the spring has no where to go so it bends, and thats on a little jeep. now put all the weight of your full size behind it.

Also it makes for climibing steap hills interesting.

but shackles in the front is so bad why?

Easily bent front springs, rough ride, crossover steering will push axle laterally.

o ok thats why they always carry bailing wire

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/shortsub/burb023.jpg

thats mine with 4" shackle flip in the rear and 52s up front 42" sxs... i feel pretty low and stable in it

i honestly dont see the need to move the motor ..... clock your case , and build a good flat belly and drag it .

you want to move the motor up, then you claim to be trying to move the CG down.
hate to break it to you but the motor and gearboxes are the biggest contributors to CG hieght
you move them up the CG just went up

leafsprung axles flop around all over the place which is why real low rigs are linked, you can plan for where the axle should be until something gets bent

I would try and keep the motor as low as possible, clock the TC (no reason to go higher then the lowest part of the transmission)

you want to move the motor up, then you claim to be trying to move the CG down.
hate to break it to you but the motor and gearboxes are the biggest contributors to CG hieght
you move them up the CG just went up

leafsprung axles flop around all over the place which is why real low rigs are linked, you can plan for where the axle should be until something gets bent

I would try and keep the motor as low as possible, clock the TC (no reason to go higher then the lowest part of the transmission)

i was original planning to move the whole crossmember up but since i can outboard the springs it would be useless i get what u are saying



another question what is the ideal wheelbase??
if i move the front and rear axle 5-6in thats gonna add a foot to my wheelbase should i shorten the frame to have it stock wheelbase or shorter to help from getting high centered

I'm happy with 120" WB. The front axle is moved forward 10" and the rear axle was moved forward too. This truck has 5" of lift and 48" tires.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/shortsub/burb023.jpg

thats mine with 4" shackle flip in the rear and 52s up front 42" sxs... i feel pretty low and stable in it

i honestly dont see the need to move the motor ..... clock your case , and build a good flat belly and drag it .

running this same set up. instead of moving the motor back or up or whatever, move both axles forward. easier IMHO. i think i am about 110" wheelbase, works pretty good. 63" leafs in the rear.

So how is life going with a restraining order against you? Ever get that 4 speed swapped into your avy?





cock sucking douchcanoe

So how is life going with a restraining order against you? Ever get that 4 speed swapped into your avy?





cock sucking douchcanoe

awww life has been lonely without u posting up bullshit in my thread. :flipoff2:
i never had a restraining order against me and i can go to zaxbys now. I got a nice apology from the owner and a free meal. If u knew all the facts u wouldnt be going on and on about that bullshit. Turns out the guy was pissed at my dad because he wouldnt hire him because he had a dishonorable discharge for going AWOL in the army.

it was a 6spd and no i sold the avi.But i do plan on putting a t56 or manual valve body th400 in my 82c10

I'm happy with 120" WB. The front axle is moved forward 10" and the rear axle was moved forward too. This truck has 5" of lift and 48" tires.

is this a mud bog truck or does it actaully crawl?
any action shots?

Sounds like your gonna have a sweet build.

is this a mud bog truck or does it actaully crawl?
any action shots?

It will crawl better now that I have a 2.72 Klune and lower axle gears. Right now it is in the garage for the second round of modifications. I live in Washington, pretty much everything is muddy, even the rocks.

Hey, Corey, Is that right rear tire going backwards on purpose?
I"ve seen several trucks that way, just curious... ( Nice rig, btw )

Hey, Corey, Is that right rear tire going backwards on purpose?
I"ve seen several trucks that way, just curious... ( Nice rig, btw )

The leading edges of the treadlocks were getting rounded off, I turned them so the sharp edges will grip. Those are some older pics when the truck was pretty crappy, I will update my build thread in about 2-3 weeks, it's alot nicer now.

It will crawl better now that I have a 2.72 Klune and lower axle gears. Right now it is in the garage for the second round of modifications. I live in Washington, pretty much everything is muddy, even the rocks.

dam dude that beast is bad and pretty dam ugly lol

is that frame flexing?

Get a red star and post some pics of your truck.

Here is my build thread: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687621&highlight=lift+48s

Get a red star and post some pics of your truck.

Here is my build thread: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687621&highlight=lift+48s

i cut up all my credit cards:laughing: so no red star for me
and that wasnt an insult mine is ugly to

but dalton might kill me if his looks like that when he gets it back

yea ive read your thread it looked kool with the bed still on it

:eek: that fram is flexing u gonna box it in?

i cut up all my credit cards:laughing: so no red star for me
and that wasnt an insult mine is ugly to

but dalton might kill me if his looks like that when he gets it back

yea ive read your thread it looked kool with the bed still on it

:eek: that fram is flexing u gonna box it in?

Send a postal money order.

Longer springs, extra crossmembers and some tube work is helping to minimize the frame flex.

Send a postal money order.

Longer springs, extra crossmembers and some tube work is helping to minimize the frame flex.

hmmm didnt know i could do that:homer:

i hope boxing the frame, fully belly skid, flat bed and exo will eliminate all the frame flex.Because cracking the frame and breaking brake lines is never fun.
how u like that th400 clune set up?
what tc are u running?

hell i got to keep dalton off of pirate now hes talking about getting a set of rocks and 53s

hmmm didnt know i could do that:homer:

i hope boxing the frame, fully belly skid, flat bed and exo will eliminate all the frame flex.Because cracking the frame and breaking brake lines is never fun.
how u like that th400 clune set up?
what tc are u running?

hell i got to keep dalton off of pirate now hes talking about getting a set of rocks and 53s

The TH400 and ratio selections are great, but the install was a bitch. Next time I will do a 3:1 Lomax and a ORD Doubler. My t-case is the round pattern NP205 that came in the truck.

The TH400 and ratio selections are great, but the install was a bitch. Next time I will do a 3:1 Lomax and a ORD Doubler. My t-case is the round pattern NP205 that came in the truck.

well this th400 will make number 2 for dalton the 454 and his heavy ass foot split the casing in half.

Get a red star



He still owes for a yellow star http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=763459&highlight=

:shaking:

:obamaflipoff:

well this th400 will make number 2 for dalton the 454 and his heavy ass foot split the casing in half.

Thats great, was it even a k case or was he mounting stuff wrong.

well this th400 will make number 2 for dalton the 454 and his heavy ass foot split the casing in half.

Cracked or broken transmission cases are caused by other problems than internal component stress. You better get a red star before you are banned.

Thats great, was it even a k case or was he mounting stuff wrong.

(TH400 "K" cases don't exist)

He still owes for a yellow star http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=763459&highlight=

:shaking:

:obamaflipoff:

thanks to the economy i spent that on bills :flipoff2:
i got layed of from the factory i was working since people cant pay there house payments there not buying couches.
no joke i was gonna get a yellow star and pimp my electrical work out but figured i shouldnt piss away money i dont have at the moment

Cracked or broken transmission cases are caused by other problems than internal component stress. You better get a red star before you are banned.

hell idk what went wrong but the whole case was cracked down the middle it was the first time i seen somethin like that even fucked the tc up somehow

banned isnt that bad-- il have accounts on 20+ automotive forums if i buy a membership on everyone i would be broke all the time

(TH400 "K" cases don't exist)

Yeah, read that wrong, was thinking a 4 speed :homer:

banned isnt that bad-- il have accounts on 20+ automotive forums if i buy a membership on everyone i would be broke all the time

Good go away then

:Dyour the one who follows me around:D

just for u :flipoff2:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/jkwalkercchs/hippo.jpg

Posting notits when your a mouth breathing jackass isnt going to buy you free pass with no redstar.

Boxing the frame is dead weight...Nothing a properly tied in cage can't do. It's probably the main thing I regret about my build is boxing the frame. But some asshole convinced me to do it when I knew I shouldn't have...:mad3:

Posting notits when your a mouth breathing jackass isnt going to buy you free pass with no redstar.

lol im glad u can see the pic because i sure as hell cant photobucket is slowing my pc down.

well im not getting a red star so i guess u are gonna have to:
1. Get a big bag of hate
2. Get a spoon, butane lighter, and hypodermic needle
3. Now put alittle hate in the spoon and heat it till it liquifies
4. Take shoelace and tie of your arm so u can find a good vain
5. Draw some hate into the needle and inject it into your bloodstream

yay you should be all pissed off at the world now

Boxing the frame is dead weight...Nothing a properly tied in cage can't do. It's probably the main thing I regret about my build is boxing the frame. But some asshole convinced me to do it when I knew I shouldn't have...:mad3:

thanks for the info i plan on doing it to my c10 but maybe i shouldnt do it to daltons truck since its already gonna way a shit ton

Can tou use your photobucket account to post pics of your C10 and Daltons truck?

Can tou use your photobucket account to post pics of your C10 and Daltons truck?

yes i can of daltons im priming the c10 right now so ill let u see it when its all one color
454 th400 needs tc lol
39.5s on hummer beadlocks
14bolt ff rear
corporate 10 bolt
cant remember how much lift
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/jkwalkercchs/daltonsrig.jpg

just for shits and giggles the jeep i just sold for 700
i even have some of me bustin the window out in a drunkin rage if u wanna see
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/jkwalkercchs/jk-1.jpg

That Chevy doesn't look like it has to much lift, more trimming then anything. And that is one ugly ass Jeep.:flipoff2:

That Chevy doesn't look like it has to much lift, more trimming then anything. And that is one ugly ass Jeep.:flipoff2:

yea talked to him said it just had some extra leafs thru in the pack

i moved my front axle forward about eight inches with 48inch leaves in front and 63inch in the read on 42inch swampers not really any lift but then again not really and sheet metel either lol works great http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d149/theblackmonky/image001.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d149/theblackmonky/image002.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d149/theblackmonky/2323232327Ffp8923Enu3D33963E8373E65.jpg

Boxing the frame is dead weight...Nothing a properly tied in cage can't do. It's probably the main thing I regret about my build is boxing the frame. But some asshole convinced me to do it when I knew I shouldn't have...:mad3:

can you elaborate?

I boxed mine and advise anyone else to do the same. most don't listen because of the work envolved and i understrand. it's a lot of work. Although i do think that a good cage will keep the frame from flexing i dont think it cures it all. the top of the frame is nice and stout but what about the bottom of the "c" especially along the long stretch between the front (rear) mount and rear (front mount) where the tc mount is? I am helping a buddy on a build and the boxing advisment was declined, so i say build a strong cage. were starting with the sliders, welded to the frame w/4 outriggers somewhat going through the body. if you sit on just the slider you can feel it move away from the body. Granted it is not tied to the other side but it still concerns me. time will tell.

my personal story? I had an 83 k10/6" lift/38's/465/208. i actually had nothing strengthening the frame. it had infamous chevy twist, broke a couple clutch pivots. i strengthened that area with a new crossmember and boxed only the portion between the springs. That held for a while even after the 400/203/205 and 42's but when it came time for a teardown for a new mod the whole frame was a twizler with the frame split to the top of the "c" in front of the rear hangers on both sides. throw that away-buy new truck.

New truck has a boxed frame front to rear with a cage at 6 points (the frame is gonna flex somewhere if you dont do this) has 39's/400/stak/ and with about a 4" lift. i beat on the new one 100x harder than the first and have no sign of frame damage.

my truck the day i got tires
39'5/57's rear/56's front. 350/400/stak/14/60
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/scoobydann/DSC00754.jpg
the crossmember with the doubler. the trans was moved up about 3-4 inches and the 205 was not happy.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/scoobydann/crossmember003.jpg
me using it.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/scoobydann/008.jpg