I want to put in aftermarket guages for slushbox temp and exhuast temp before I mod by 02 PSD. I looked up several makes for the pillar guages.

If anybody has done these, is it fairly simple plug and play or is it and time consuming PIA.

I was looking at Western Diesel.

It's not terribly difficult, but it will take you a good while to route the plumb everything, mount the thermocouple in the exhaust, and tuck everything behind the pillar. Mine took about two hours from start to finish for a boost gauge and EGT. I have a 5-speed so no need for the tranny temp. However long it takes you really shouldn't matter. Your engine and tranny will thank you when you get them too hot and back down.

the western diesel gauges tell you to put the sender's in weird places that require drilling and tapping... i have they're gauge set and i installed my pyro in the downpipe in the port my 4in exhaust had in it, and put the boost gauge in the air sensor line so i did not have to drill into my turrbo

Originally posted by DSI
drill into my turrbo

I don't want to to do that:(

I installed autometer phantom guages in a Rockin S Performance guage pod. It mounts to the trim piece above the rearview mirror. Not sure if they make one for the Superduty's though, mines a 96. Took me about 4 hours, from start to finish. I placed the pyro on the downpipe right below the driver's side manifold with the hoseclamp style mount. Really easy to do, and no tapping or welding. The boost goes in the vacuum line that runs to the MAP sensor. Just cut the line and install the "tee". HTH

I installed my pyro probe in the exhaust pipe going from the drivers side manifold to the turbo. The problem with going post-turbo is you don't get an accurate reading. The turbo takes out about 300 degrees. I want to know what the temp is before it cooks my turbo, not after.:flipoff2:

For a real nice digital setup check out www.spatechnique.com

geno's gaage sells them even tho they are for dodge guys, check the www.turbodieselregister.com and search for info on pyrometer thermocouples...very interesting........

Originally posted by cmegoup
I installed my pyro probe in the exhaust pipe going from the drivers side manifold to the turbo. The problem with going post-turbo is you don't get an accurate reading. The turbo takes out about 300 degrees. I want to know what the temp is before it cooks my turbo, not after.:flipoff2:

I quess all the big rig companys don't know what they're doing. Every one with a pyro I've driven has the pickup post turbo.

Originally posted by 70~K5


I quess all the big rig companys don't know what they're doing. Every one with a pyro I've driven has the pickup post turbo.


exactly... Cat, Cummin's, Detroit, they must all be stupid!


all teh big manufacture's install them post turbo, so whoever the genius is that said hey, let's only test one side of a V8 motor's temps must have been a genius!

if post turbo is how all teh big manufacture's have been doing it all along, then i think i'll trust them over a gauge maker...

Originally posted by DSI
all teh big manufacture's install them post turbo, so whoever the genius is that said hey, let's only test one side of a V8 motor's temps must have been a genius!

I work with a bunch of heavy equipment mechanics and all of them see some heavy damage. Every one of them has said that much of the turbo damage they see could be avoided if the pyro read pre-turbo EGT. I'll trust someone who fixes broken engines before I trust an engineer who designs them. This topic is debated on all of the diesel boards, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on it.

BTW, if I could run one gauge with a probe from each bank I would. One side of the V8 is going to be pretty damn close to the other unless there's a serious internal engine problem.

Could solve the arguement, put in a switch and a second sender and use the same guage to measure both pre and post EGT's ;) Like such:
http://www.showmestate.org/stltdr/how-tos/EGT/finished.jpg

Originally posted by cmegoup


I work with a bunch of heavy equipment mechanics and all of them see some heavy damage. Every one of them has said that much of the turbo damage they see could be avoided if the pyro read pre-turbo EGT. I'll trust someone who fixes broken engines before I trust an engineer who designs them. This topic is debated on all of the diesel boards, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on it.

BTW, if I could run one gauge with a probe from each bank I would. One side of the V8 is going to be pretty damn close to the other unless there's a serious internal engine problem.

knowing several big rig drivers and equipment operators i would say the real problem is gettin those guys to use the gauge and not where the sender is located.

btw. my sender is post turbo for the same reason the oem do it. when the thermo-couble fails and breaks apart it will fall harmlessly in the exhaust and not take out my turbo.