I have a gunbroker auction with am AK parts kit and two magazines. There is a potential bidder in CA that is interested.

I know the parts kit is legal to ship/ own there, but how can I determine if the magazines are pre-ban? Assuming they are pre-ban, its ok to just priorty mail them right to the buyer, correct?

They are Romanian mags with the 22 stampings on the spine. I am almost positive these are preban, but its impossible to KNOW as they are unmarked.

I have no problem shipping to CA to help these guys out, as long as it is legal to do so.

I would never condone, or attempt to circumvent the laws of any state that supported the civil rights of its subjects....er, citizens...., but is there an issue with sending magazine 'repair kits' that consist of a mag body, follower, spring, lower spring plate, and floorplate?

If you or I moved to CA, we'd have to sell all 11+ round magazines.
You must have owned the magazine IN THAT STATE prior to the '94 AWB taking effect, in order to own a 30 round mag in CA. *NO ONE* can bring a 17 round pistol mag, or 30 round rifle magazine, into California, except to use it as parts to maintain an existing magazine.

can't take it apart and sell it as a repair kit?

Pre ban or not makes no difference unless they're already here and possessed by a California resident. Truthfully there is no way to tell, or at least no legal way to define it, can't think of a better way to summarize it. The only people (besides LEOs) who can own regular capacity (10+) mags had to have owned them before the ban, but they can rebuild them as they wear out using new parts, provided they, on scout's honor I guess, do rebuild them, not "manufacture" them, but they can be rebuilt into different calibers, for different guns even, provided 1 pre-ban mag doesn't turn into 2 rebuilt mags.

Rebuild kits are not defined, but a normal "rebuild kit" is everything you get when you buy a whole magazine, but broken down to it's component parts. Any "rebuild kit" is legal to ship into Ca., just be sure to pop the floor-plate off and break them down, shipping a functioning mag with a capacity greater than 10 rounds into Ca. is very illegal.

It's a wild and crazy place out here, but we like it.

Take the mags apart and ship them. You are in the clear then. It is up to the buyer to make sure he/she follows the law from there. They cann either rebuild existing high cap mags or make them into permanent 10 round mags.
BTW, thanks for being willing to deal with us here in Kali. Too many people have the attitude that it is our fault our laws suck, when we are plain getting screwed. The people that do this are even worse than the people who mase our laws.

Do like tacoboy said, take them apart, and ship them. No laws broken.

Looks like I have some repair kits then.

Thanks guys.

You must have owned the magazine IN THAT STATE prior to the '94 AWB taking effect,
When?

The CA ban went into effect 1/1/2000.

The CA ban went into effect 1/1/2000.

Correct. The above ban was the federal ban that was not renewed and is no longer in effect.

Been done before(shipping 30rd mags into CA).
No need to make "kits".
Send it "back" and forget it.

"Ok, prove to me that I'm not just sending these BACK to the guy - go ahead."
;)

The CA ban went into effect 1/1/2000.
Thank you.
Been done before(shipping 30rd mags into CA).
No need to make "kits".
Send it "back" and forget it.

"Ok, prove to me that I'm not just sending these BACK to the guy - go ahead."
;)Bad idea.

Been done before(shipping 30rd mags into CA).
No need to make "kits".
Send it "back" and forget it.

"Ok, prove to me that I'm not just sending these BACK to the guy - go ahead."
;)


Bad idea.

i agree. do it legally by taking them apart. let the buyer take responsibility for legally configuring them.

i agree. do it legally by taking them apart. let the buyer take responsibility for legally configuring them.

thats what I do an have shipped a "few" mags to CA

The guys on Calguns feel that "hicap" mags are a no-brainer.
A thread on there about how nobody has ever been bothered about them.

I think there's too much paranoia about all this. But I guess it's better to be safe than sorry, even if it's 1% odds.

Good luck whatever you decide.

Been done before(shipping 30rd mags into CA).
No need to make "kits".
Send it "back" and forget it.

"Ok, prove to me that I'm not just sending these BACK to the guy - go ahead."
;)

The guys on Calguns feel that "hicap" mags are a no-brainer.
A thread on there about how nobody has ever been bothered about them.

I think there's too much paranoia about all this. But I guess it's better to be safe than sorry, even if it's 1% odds.

Good luck whatever you decide.

what you first suggested is 100% illegal. no ifs and or buts about it. there is no reason not to spend 30 seconds disassembling a magazine to do it legally just because they can't "prove it". it has nothing to do with paranoia, it has to do with doing something that is illegal.