Well this is probably dumb but but im looking to not spend much money here and every friend i have is a gm guy. I also have lots of gm parts therefore i have no front axles that are drivers drop. My buddy came up with the idea of just pulling the tubes or cutting them and swapping the long and short side. Sound easy to do and since it is low pinion i would have had to cut and turn the Cs anyways to reduce the angle on the driveline. The reason im even thinking this is cuz i have numerous 10 bolts and parts, spare shafts blah blah so switching to a 44 i would have to start a whole new collection lol. Im going full width and already have a 10.25 sterling 4.10 gears so what u guys think. If you think im an idiot for thinkin this oh well flame on.

so what u guys think.

10 bolts suck, I wouldn't waist a can of wallmart flat black paint on one.
Needless to say I would not waist welding wire or time needed to swap tubes, thats a real PITA.

You would have a "big" and "bad" xj if you did full width 10 bolts.

You could run a 10 bolt pretty easy if you used a Dana 300 and ran the driveshaft on the pass side. But if your already 1 ton in the rear, and your buddy has a bunch of Chevy shit, why don't you just use a 60?

No need to build a truck twice.

^^^^^
What they said.

Don't waste your time...

x3, unless you are a glutton for punishment:flipoff2:

Lmao at ten bolts are shit. suprised u say a 60, yeah i wish i had one but i just recently went back to work from layoff. I want to wheel with as little money possible and use what i got, my 3 link wont work with a passenger t case nor do i have a dana 300 and all i, we got is a couple 14b rears, bunch of 10b fronts, 2 44 front, all passenger, and one 12b rear. I do have a closed knuckle 60 with drum brakes but man that thing is old and will take some money to fix up if i could find parts.

Also ashman i seen in ur rigs that ur running a 44 front with 38s:eek: which is equal in strength to a 10 bolt and ill only be on 35s. Not all of us can afford a dana 60, I could get rockwells front and rear cheaper than i could buy one dana 60 front but i dont want the weight lmao

do it right the first time.... (no 10 bolt)

Also ashman i seen in ur rigs that ur running a 44 front with 38s:eek: which is equal in strength to a 10 bolt and ill only be on 35s. Not all of us can afford a dana 60, I could get rockwells front and rear cheaper than i could buy one dana 60 front but i dont want the weight lmao


kill yourself.:flipoff2: dont put a 10 bolt in. use what you have to save money when it breaks then upgrade.....you seem to want to hold on to money so wait til you got it. like its been said above why build it twice...

Doesnt everyone build their rigs numerous times, not just once. Im not trying to argue here but i just dont understand why no 10bolt. I had one in my 85 cheby with a 454 and 38.5 hawgs and it did ok with just axle joints going on with 4.56s. So why not in a cheerokee that is 1500 to 2000 pounds lighter with less power and smaller tires. Well i just talked to my dad and he said it shouldnt be too bad and then i wont have the spring perch to cut and grind down like i would with a ford 44. If worst comes to worse i just cut up a 10b housing. Big deal right?

kill yourself.:flipoff2: dont put a 10 bolt in. use what you have to save money when it breaks then upgrade.....you seem to want to hold on to money so wait til you got it. like its been said above why build it twice...
Oh and the use what i have aint gonna work cuz the dana 30 r and p went poof and so did the 8.25 carrier. Ill just put a clutch in the sammy for now till i get this front lined out.

fawk its not even tuesday

hmmm i think the 30 r&p would be eaiser and less time consuming than sliding 10 bolts of junk under there. and since you have to buy gears any ways why not just buy dana 30 gears?


but on the other hand its not my shit so do what you want :flipoff2:

Pretty funny. The guy asks for advice, then argues with every comment and justifies what he already wants to do.

Do it then. Why bother posting here and asking for advice? You already know what you want to do. If you want someone to hold your hand, looks like you have your friends with GM stuff. No one here is going to hold your hand.

Next. :D

fawk its not even tuesday

hmmm i think the 30 r&p would be eaiser and less time consuming than sliding 10 bolts of junk under there. and since you have to buy gears any ways why not just buy dana 30 gears?


but on the other hand its not my shit so do what you want :flipoff2:

what i was thinking exactly, i can almost give you a hp dana 30 thats in perfect shape ......when i blew my previous d30 up i went to junk yard and bought two that were in great shape cost me a 100 each with all steering and warranty. for 30 days...\
seems that would be alot cheaper then swaping a 10 bolt in, considering it would bolt up in less than 2 hrs

Doesnt everyone build their rigs numerous times, not just once.


Well i just talked to my dad and he said it shouldnt be too bad and then i wont have the spring perch to cut and grind down like i would with a ford 44.

Not on purpose:flipoff2:

so you are worried about THAT? Do it then, post results:shaking:

If you want someone to hold your hand, looks like you have your friends with GM stuff. No one here is going to hold your hand.




:laughing:

Pretty funny. The guy asks for advice, then argues with every comment and justifies what he already wants to do.

Do it then. Why bother posting here and asking for advice? You already know what you want to do. If you want someone to hold your hand, looks like you have your friends with GM stuff. No one here is going to hold your hand.

Next. :D

Your an ASS HOLE!!:flipoff2:

Also ashman i seen in ur rigs that ur running a 44 front with 38s:eek:
You cant use what my dead friend did against me, that was before I took on his project for his sons, I would never wish his sons to have to deal with a d44 :flipoff2: The d44 broke both times Ive taken it out, It will be replaced.

how did i miss this epic thread?

Also ashman i seen in ur rigs that ur running a 44 front with 38s:eek: which is equal in strength to a 10 bolt and ill only be on 35s. Not all of us can afford a dana 60, I could get rockwells front and rear cheaper than i could buy one dana 60 front but i dont want the weight lmao
Dude, his rig has a 60 front.
Read ALL of his sig line.

Another one of these threads huh. Glad I was busy today. :laughing:

Do the 10 bolt, report back after failure.

sorry ashman i did not see the rip, my condolenses.

Dont worry ill report back lmao. I love causing an uproar, its just to dayum easy on here, too much pms going around. Ive never intended to argue with anyone i was just stating my opinion and obviously no one agrees. I understand that no one with a 10bolt or a 44 belongs in this forum but u come here cuz u will always get alot of opinions so thanks to everyone for the good time and laugh.

By the way i do have a dana 30 already with 3.55s but i have no rear and just want to be different and go full width. I also have a line on xj 44s for 300 but i just dont want to go that way and i will be looking to go bigger on the front axle in the next couple yrs but a 1/2 ton with just have to do for now

You came here looking for opinions, so don't bitch that you got them. You're feigned amusement is itself amusing. It's been a general consensus for a long time that replacing a D30 with a D44 that has stock axles is a waste of time. Same with your 10 bolt idea. With stock junkyard shafts you'll blow the u-joints just as fast as you will with a D30. No one recommends spending the time to put in a D44 with stock shafts, and no one will recommend wasting the time to put in a 10 bolt with stock shafts.

No one cares what you do with your rig. But it's kind of silly to rag on the rest of us when we all answer your question the same way. But, hey, full width is cool, especially if it's free. :shaking:

Dont worry ill report back lmao. I love causing an uproar, its just to dayum easy on here, too much pms going around. Ive never intended to argue with anyone i was just stating my opinion and obviously no one agrees. I understand that no one with a 10bolt or a 44 belongs in this forum but u come here cuz u will always get alot of opinions so thanks to everyone for the good time and laugh.

By the way i do have a dana 30 already with 3.55s but i have no rear and just want to be different and go full width. I also have a line on xj 44s for 300 but i just dont want to go that way and i will be looking to go bigger on the front axle in the next couple yrs but a 1/2 ton with just have to do for now


ok i was done but you lied. you said in earlier post he had a 10.25 sterling with 4.10 gears in op. now he says he has no rear either, WTF

by the way a xj 44 is not that cool. i have one in mine trussed, ballistic fab cover and spool but its not worth swaping in ive decided not to waste money on my axles and just save and do a swap with a 14 bolt, and a d60 front when i have the funds and finish collecting parts.......look you asked for opinions and said you had a sterling in your rear....we say dont use a 10 bolt get something more dependable to swap in now you want to swap in a 10 bolt front, and a xj 44 rear? wtf are you trying to do?

Dont worry ill report back lmao. I love causing an uproar, its just to dayum easy on here, too much pms going around. Ive never intended to argue with anyone i was just stating my opinion and obviously no one agrees. I understand that no one with a 10bolt or a 44 belongs in this forum but u come here cuz u will always get alot of opinions so thanks to everyone for the good time and laugh.

By the way i do have a dana 30 already with 3.55s but i have no rear and just want to be different and go full width. I also have a line on xj 44s for 300 but i just dont want to go that way and i will be looking to go bigger on the front axle in the next couple yrs but a 1/2 ton with just have to do for now

None of us are worried about you and your assinine 10 bolt idea. And I assure your not causeing any kind of uproar here. This is a forum. Where people reply to threads/posts. Just because everyone in here is calling you a turd sucking butt queef doesnt mean your causing an uproar. No one agrees with your idea because its flat out dumb, and you youself stated that in your first sentance. Tha fact that your willing to do all that work for an axle thats not any stronger than the one your pulling, JUST for full width makes you a complete and total fucking retard.

I could continue but I wont. Im simply wasteing my own time now. When you've completed installing your toothpick, congradulate yourself with a CloroxBomb. Ingrediants include 8 ounches of Clorox Bleach, 1 shot of your choice.

ok i was done but you lied. you said in earlier post he had a 10.25 sterling with 4.10 gears in op. now he says he has no rear either, WTF
He was trying to tell me it would be easier to stay jeep axles. I have a good dana 30 front but not a good rear. I sold the 35 outta my parts jeep. Thats why im causing all this comotion cuz i need a full with front axle lol.

by the way a xj 44 is not that cool. i have one in mine trussed, ballistic fab cover and spool but its not worth swaping in ive decided not to waste money on my axles and just save and do a swap with a 14 bolt, and a d60 front when i have the funds and finish collecting parts.......look you asked for opinions and said you had a sterling in your rear....we say dont use a 10 bolt get something more dependable to swap in now you want to swap in a 10 bolt front, and a xj 44 rear? wtf are you trying to do?
I said full width is cool, i never said xj 44s were cool. Its getting the 10.25 in the rear. And if the 10b works out it will get that. If not ill look into the dana 60 i have but if im not mistakin the closed knuckle has no better shafts than a 10b or 44.

[QUOTE=GreatWhiteXJ;9801507]None of us are worried about you and your assinine 10 bolt idea. And I assure your not causeing any kind of uproar here. This is a forum. Where people reply to threads/posts. Just because everyone in here is calling you a turd sucking butt queef doesnt mean your causing an uproar. No one agrees with your idea because its flat out dumb, and you youself stated that in your first sentance. Tha fact that your willing to do all that work for an axle thats not any stronger than the one your pulling, JUST for full width makes you a complete and total fucking retard.

Well im gettin a 1ton rear outta of it though right????:flipoff2: Beside i love welding and cutting and i wish i had a tube bender cuz then it wouldnt be an xj anymore. Atleast when i break the front this time the rear wont break either so i dont have to be towed back to the trailer.

None of us are worried about you and your assinine 10 bolt idea. And I assure your not causeing any kind of uproar here. This is a forum. Where people reply to threads/posts. Just because everyone in here is calling you a turd sucking butt queef doesnt mean your causing an uproar. No one agrees with your idea because its flat out dumb, and you youself stated that in your first sentance. Tha fact that your willing to do all that work for an axle thats not any stronger than the one your pulling, JUST for full width makes you a complete and total fucking retard.

I could continue but I wont. Im simply wasteing my own time now. When you've completed installing your toothpick, congradulate yourself with a CloroxBomb. Ingrediants include 8 ounches of Clorox Bleach, 1 shot of your choice.

GW, once again i agree with you.

93_bigbadxj,

i've been watching this abortion, and have really been holding back. It's getting really hard. I don't know if i can do it. I mean, what's the point? Will you really listen to people who've been there, done that? Srsly, don't think so.

you are a little cumstain that shoulda ended in a coathanger enima. Hopefully, you will be carried off in the sunset like a fucking man purse full of rainbows.

Log off. don't ever think of P4x4 ever again, and sign into jeepforum or some other faggot ass website that will pander to your stupid inebriated ramblings of a rodent.
your piece of shit xj is just that. a piece of shit. My guess is it's gayer than 10 dudes fucking in a russel simmons video.

Having any better luck on JeepForum? http://www.slicky.net/smilies/roflfawk.gif
Billy

goatman runs a 10 bolt on his isuzu amigo.

kick ass ride.

has lots of foglights to boot.

Cheap way to go full width. I didn't need to trim the fenders 'cause the tires are outside of them. And it works for 31's. Not a bad setup, it's light weight. It would shoot right up Backdoor, it climbs really well, if I could get past the boulders to get to the fall. :flipoff2:

GW, once again i agree with you.

93_bigbadxj,

i've been watching this abortion, and have really been holding back. It's getting really hard. I don't know if i can do it. I mean, what's the point? Will you really listen to people who've been there, done that? Srsly, don't think so.

you are a little cumstain that shoulda ended in a coathanger enima. Hopefully, you will be carried off in the sunset like a fucking man purse full of rainbows.

Log off. don't ever think of P4x4 ever again, and sign into jeepforum or some other faggot ass website that will pander to your stupid inebriated ramblings of a rodent.
your piece of shit xj is just that. a piece of shit. My guess is it's gayer than 10 dudes fucking in a russel simmons video.


i was thinking he should have been wiped up with a napkin and trown in the back seat :flipoff2:
and i agree why ask for advice and tell your new to it and argue or stick with what you dont know... for fuck sake i want tons and im gonna do a swap...but ive been reasearching and taking advice from people who have been there done that and know what not to do and what is a waste of time. so really go suck a shitsicle.

if you choose not to take their advice just do that dont come back with dumb ass ideas of how you disagree...they gave you an opinion/ advice so leave it or take it.

i was thinking he should have been wiped up with a napkin and trown in the back seat :flipoff2:
and i agree why ask for advice and tell your new to it and argue or stick with what you dont know... for fuck sake i want tons and im gonna do a swap...but ive been reasearching and taking advice from people who have been there done that and know what not to do and what is a waste of time. so really go suck a shitsicle.

if you choose not to take their advice just do that dont come back with dumb ass ideas of how you disagree...they gave you an opinion/ advice so leave it or take it.


aka: FUCK OFF, FUCKIN-FAGGOT-DISGRACE-TO-THE-COMMUNITY-J

log off and die.

Wow this is getting heated. :flipoff2:

I am just going to let him do all the fab work for the 10 bolt and let it break over and ever. I'm not going to loose sleep over it.

Let him fail. Some poor souls just can't be reached. :evil:

Lmao at ten bolts are shit. suprised u say a 60, yeah i wish i had one but i just recently went back to work from layoff. I want to wheel with as little money possible and use what i got, my 3 link wont work with a passenger t case nor do i have a dana 300 and all i, we got is a couple 14b rears, bunch of 10b fronts, 2 44 front, all passenger, and one 12b rear. I do have a closed knuckle 60 with drum brakes but man that thing is old and will take some money to fix up if i could find parts.

you would be better off spending the time making one of those 14 bolt rears a front axle. probably wouldn't be a whole lot more work than hacking up a shitty 10 bolt

you would be better off spending the time making one of those 14 bolt rears a front axle. probably wouldn't be a whole lot more work than hacking up a shitty 10 bolt

Is a 10 bolt low pinion? That would be the icing on the cake! http://www.slicky.net/smilies/rofl.gif
Billy

Is a 10 bolt low pinion? http://www.slicky.net/smilies/rofl.gif
Billy
Not if you flip it over. :p

I can't believe this thread hasn't been moved or deleted yet. :laughing:

I can't believe this thread hasn't been moved or deleted yet. :laughing:

Thats what I was going to say.