View Full Version : Compressed Air Build. Out with the old.
montecarlo31
05-10-2009, 04:51 PM
Well since buying my own place about 1.5 years ago I've wanted a new compressor. I had purchased the red one 3 years ago with what little money I had out of college. I've probably run it a total of 3 or 4 running hours, I hate how loud it is. It's got air for a 1/2 gun working on 8 lug wheels but left a lot to be desired with a plasma cutter or DA or cutoff wheel or 3/4 or 1" impact. I always wanted a portable compressor to replace my current unit. Then I got the deal of a lifetime (at least to me), a brand new Belaire w/ 13 hp honda with electric start and alternator for a grand (even has the 2 year warranty). I looked at all the electric models that came close in output and they were well into the 1,200 or 1,500 or even 2,000 dollar range + wiring my house and wiring 220 out to the back of the garage. Look for my thread to grow as I starting pouring the slab and building the enclosure for this unit as well as the rolling cart to bring the unit in during hurricane season and on road trips with the truck. I'll detail my plumbing setup in the garage and ask for advise on how to plumb my garage as well.
Old, 110V, single phase oilless, 150 PSI max, 6.4 CFM @ 90 PSI:
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New 13 HP, Two-stage, 175 PSI max, 25 CFM @ 100 PSI, 22 CFM @ 175 PSI:
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phillyzj
05-10-2009, 08:30 PM
how is that any quieter? :laughing:
looks like it will do everything you need and then some but why did you go with a gas powered compressor for a shop environment? I ahve seen them around a but but i don't really get it :confused:
ChiScouter
05-10-2009, 09:02 PM
For a grand I think you got a good deal, but over a long time I think the gas engine will end up being a hassle. I would run a reg at at 125psi or whatever the red tank is rated for and run a line from the grey tank to the red one, then run another reg off the red tank at 90 or whatever you want your shop air to be at. Use the red tank to cool the air and as a moisture trap.
Since the gas comp is elec start, im wondering if it would be practical/possible to run a pressure switch that would start and stop the engine as needed. Running a gas engine the entire time you are in the shop when not needed will get expensive over time. I don't know why, but the idea of the engine running all day long when I only need it a few times would bug me.
montecarlo31
05-11-2009, 06:08 AM
how is that any quieter? :laughing:
looks like it will do everything you need and then some but why did you go with a gas powered compressor for a shop environment? I ahve seen them around a but but i don't really get it :confused:
I don't think it's much quieter but it is some. But this allows me to move it behind the shop inside it's own compressor "outhouse". I'm guessing it will be about under 65 dB once the enclosure is complete. I'll also be able to load this on the trailer and have compressed air on-site. I don't have to have two compressors or run the generator to run the compressor.
For a grand I think you got a good deal, but over a long time I think the gas engine will end up being a hassle. I would run a reg at at 125psi or whatever the red tank is rated for and run a line from the grey tank to the red one, then run another reg off the red tank at 90 or whatever you want your shop air to be at. Use the red tank to cool the air and as a moisture trap.
Since the gas comp is elec start, im wondering if it would be practical/possible to run a pressure switch that would start and stop the engine as needed. Running a gas engine the entire time you are in the shop when not needed will get expensive over time. I don't know why, but the idea of the engine running all day long when I only need it a few times would bug me.
It really doesn't bother me if it runs for 5 or 6 hours at a time, we run them all day long in our service trucks. I do like your idea of a storage or drying/cooling tank. I'll keep that in mind but I was hoping to sell my compressor to make the cost of the new compressor even cheaper. I had planned on purchasing a air dryer so that I could paint with this compressor if needed.
I've though about the switch myself. I plan on installing a remove start in the garage area so all I have to do turn the key and away I go.
roverjohn
05-11-2009, 07:40 AM
Why does this need a new thread?
montecarlo31
05-11-2009, 02:29 PM
Why does this need a new thread?
:flipoff2: Thanks. Why not is a better question?
With the volumetric flow of that pump you'll short cycle that motor to death with start/stop operation. You are better off running unloaded, plus those little Hondas are fuel sippers at idle.
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