Looking to buy a crawler for my 99 tacoma. what is better a dual case setup with stock tacoma case or the lefthand gear driven t case?

Either is good. The stock cases seem to hold up from what I hear/read. I'd bet the lefty would set you back a whole lot more though.

Ask Jim @ Inchworm what he thinks since he sells both.

Seems to me what he told me is the Lefty mostly gets sold to FJ Cruiser owners that want lower gears but can't fit duals because of the stock gas tank.

Either is good. The stock cases seem to hold up from what I hear/read. I'd bet the lefty would set you back a whole lot more though.

Ask Jim @ Inchworm what he thinks since he sells both.

Seems to me what he told me is the Lefty mostly gets sold to FJ Cruiser owners that want lower gears but can't fit duals because of the stock gas tank.
lefty will set you back around $2.5k without an upgraded output, far more than im willing to toss down. after a conversation with brian from FROR, he ran a stock tacoma case behind a 4.7 gear set with 42s and v6. that was good enough for me to stick with it. tacoma cases had endless clockablility while gear is limited to 10* last time i checked.

not sure if this is a street rig or trailer queen but running a gear drive case will cause ehaust rerouting and with the new smog laws mandating cat location this could be a problem.

I've got a Marlin Crawler box with 4.7's in front of my stock case and couldn't be happier. I haven't heard of any Taco case's breaking. I'm sure it may have happened at one time or another but I haven't seen it myself.

im running the lefty and mine cost me 2300 with cromoly outputs and 4.7 gears. when i talked to the guys at inchworm they told me it would put too much stress on the taco chain drive case? wither way im more than happy with the lefty clockes flat and it sure looks purrrdy!:)

lefty will set you back around $2.5k without an upgraded output, far more than im willing to toss down. after a conversation with brian from FROR, he ran a stock tacoma case behind a 4.7 gear set with 42s and v6. that was good enough for me to stick with it. tacoma cases had endless clockablility while gear is limited to 10* last time i checked.

not sure if this is a street rig or trailer queen but running a gear drive case will cause ehaust rerouting and with the new smog laws mandating cat location this could be a problem.
How long did Brian run that rig though? Didn't seem very long, IIRC. Not much of a long term test.


Anyway...

A lefty is $1995 and includes a Longfield chromo output AND a 23-spline 4.7 gear set, and quad drilled flanges too. Its actually not as expensive as I thought it was for what you get. Transmission adapter and/or dual case stuff would be extra.

Inchworm's Tacoma "V6" adapter (really any pass drop engine/tranny) allows clocking -10, 0, 5, or 15 degrees for Driver's drop cases (like the Lefty)
Marlin's allows 0 or 10.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617536&highlight=v6+adapter

I think both of their second case adapters (used when going from low range gear case back to stock chain drive case) allow lots more clocking choices.

Several of us here have run pass. drop cases and mildly modified exhausts w/o smog issues (Paul and I for starters).

A recent thread about chain drive cases in the main Toy section:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=783983&highlight=chain+case

There are LOTS of choices for these rigs!! :cool2:

stretched two chains and ruined 3 output bearings in my tacoma chain drive..
2.7 5 speed 36's 5:13's
Not a tough case IMO..
or maybe im just hard on shit...

just swapped to chevrolet 60 front/ w56 and duals

thanks for the info guys. I think the lefty is the better way to go but the price $$$$.

thanks for the info guys. I think the lefty is the better way to go but the price $$$$.

Haven't there been issues with the Lefty?

ive had my lefty for a little over a year now drive my truck every day and wheel it a fair ammount during the summer/winter and i havent had one problem with my case... (knock on wood). its probably going to blow up this weekend now!:shaking:

i bought the lefty for my 4runner and put it together myself and the only problem i had with it was snapping input shafts in the damn snow... but the lefty case is a really sweet set up. plus he is only like 20 minutes from where you live.

Haven't there been issues with the Lefty?

The only problems I'm aware of was broken stock outputs, which is why he puts Longfield outputs in all of them now. Anyway, that was more a problem of the late model rigs (FJ cruisers) being heavy and having a lot more power, not the Lefty itself.

Are there other problems you've heard of?

Hey stupid question alert!

So when you guys say "lefty" you mean a reduction unit infront of a stock taco tcase which is driver's side drop.....

Right?

Hey stupid question alert!

So when you guys say "lefty" you mean a reduction unit infront of a stock taco tcase which is driver's side drop.....

Right?

Lefty is an inchworm product. Basically a two speed gear driven Tcase that has been flipped for drivers side output.

Also I have not read or heard of any lefty failures since he started using chromo outputs, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Got it thanks

I'm just gonna to do the Marlin adapts for a gear reduction unit between auto trans and stock chain case. I hope it holds up to 60's and 40's.......

That "lefty" justifies buying an Atlas!

Got it thanks

I'm just gonna to do the Marlin adapts for a gear reduction unit between auto trans and stock chain case. I hope it holds up to 60's and 40's.......

That "lefty" justifies buying an Atlas!

I'm running 60'sand 40's with Marlins TacoBox in front of my chain driven case and have had no problems. In fact, my Marlin box has 4.7's in it and my tranny is an automatic which alot of people said wouldn't work. Works just fine for me.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC00936.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17036/cat/500)

Why did they say it wouldn't work?
You just have a stock 3.4?

An auto would save alot of broken parts, like taking up a hard shock......

I have an '02 Taco D-Cab (auto tranny) w/Marlin Dual (w/4.7) hooked to the stock Tacoma chain drive case... they tried to talk me out of the 4.7; issue is that you may not be able to stop the truck... and there's been a few times where (in low-low), the brakes would not stop the drivetrain... but being an auto, and at way less than 1 MPH, I feel pretty safe in selecting the 'N' gear if I need to stop. I chose the 4.7's for downhill braking w/Auto... I already have a 2.56 ratio, having the 2.28 is nearly identical, so I wanted the option of a REALLY different ratio available. I'm aware that the Tacoma case isn't as strong as the gear case, but I don't do full throttle assaults on wet, slimy hill climbs either. So far, really loving the speed control of either the 2.56's or 4.7's, and REALLY like the downhill control of both!

-Mark

I've been running a Lefty (5.0:1) with a doubler (2.28:1) in my heavy ass FJ Cruiser for 2.5 years and I'm as happy as could be with it.

Why did they say it wouldn't work?
You just have a stock 3.4?

An auto would save alot of broken parts, like taking up a hard shock......

My truck is an '05 taco with the 4.0 in it. People said I wouldn't be able to stop it but it stops just fine and you can always put it in neutral which is what I do. Your moving so slow that it won't pose a problem.

Alot of folks just don't know what they are talking about. Thats why they said it wouldn't work. They also said my truck was too big to wheel....:shaking: