What happened to "M" style air fittings?

[ScaldedDog]

I've been using these for years, and suddenly can't find them anywhere. HD, Lowe's, the local Ace Hardware that used to carry Milton's... none of those places even have a shelf location for them anymore.

Did Obama ban these instead of handguns? :D

Mark

[PhantomEB]

I can get damn near in bulk for you up here in Canuckistan.

[jmhinescj]

my local big contractore/industrial supply type hardware store still has them..my local ace stopped stocking them a few years ago.

[ChiScouter]

http://www.mcmaster.com/#quick-disconnect-hose-couplings/=1tr9t5 they are also called Industrial

[Sapper]

Have you tried Walmart. I bought 15 of them not too long ago (female) from them for my air tool rack. I think I paid $1.97 a piece for the female chuck and they had the males in sets of 2 or 5 for about $3-$5.

[nissancrawler]

m sucks anyway, get v's.

[1wook]

Farm and fleet has them.

Why are V's better?

[Sasquatchpa]

No, Shrub gave them all to that Saudi guy he was walking around holding hands with.

[ChiScouter]

m sucks anyway, get v's.

The OP said he has been buying the M style for years leading me to believe that he has quite a few of them in use, are you saing he should scrap all his stuff and buy the V style?

Please clarify how and why the M style suck and why the V are so much better

[darkstar]

The V style allow about 50% more air flow. makes a very noticeable difference in the performance of air tools, especially grinders. 1/4" body V fittings flow about the same as 3/8 body M fittings.

[nissancrawler]

The OP said he has been buying the M style for years leading me to believe that he has quite a few of them in use, are you saing he should scrap all his stuff and buy the V style?

Please clarify how and why the M style suck and why the V are so much better

WAY more flow and power on air tools. Besides, for any non-power hungry tools, you can still stick M plugs into V couplers.

I tried one set of V fittings, promptly ditched all my M ones and switched.

My Aircat runs as strong on setting one as it did on setting three before. It torques lugnuts too tight on one if you let it rattle now. Three would snap them off in a heartbeat.

Yes, I'm saying he should scrap them.

[Sapper]

Great.....thanks guys why didn't you tell me this a year ago when I bought 20 fittings...

So the "V" fit in the "M" couplers but the "M" don't fit in "V" couplers?

If they fit in the "M" couplers then I don't need to redo my rack. Just my hoses and tools...

[silveradoreb]

Great.....thanks guys why didn't you tell me this a year ago when I bought 20 fittings...

So the "V" fit in the "M" couplers but the "M" don't fit in "V" couplers?

If they fit in the "M" couplers then I don't need to redo my rack. Just my hoses and tools...

No, a V will not fit an M coupler. A V will only fit a V. But M nipples can be used in a V coupler.

[ScaldedDog]

Where do we find these "V"'s of which you speak? I've not seem them around here.

BTW, it looks like "I/M" or "IM" has replaced the plain "M" fitting, at least in local stores. The I/M's look different, but I noticed the packages claim they are replacements for Milton M's.

Mark

[bluesman2a]

Northern Tool. They have M and V. I just got one of each this afternoon.

[1wook]

So I picked up two V couplers. These things are sweet.

They flow allot more air, definatly noticed it with my sandblaster. The ones I got also couple easier, the "retention slide" stays back so all you have to do is stab the male coupler in and it auto snaps.

My M style males work just fine in them so I see no reason to upgrade them.

[Sapper]

Glad to hear that the male V's fit in your M's. I have at least 20 M couplers for my air tool rack I didn't want to replace. I will replace the males on my tools and couplers on my hoses and compressor to V's if the males fit in my M couplers. I guess I will busy when I get home.

[darkstar]

Glad to hear that the male V's fit in your M's. I have at least 20 M couplers for my air tool rack I didn't want to replace. I will replace the males on my tools and couplers on my hoses and compressor to V's if the males fit in my M couplers. I guess I will busy when I get home.

Nope you got that backwards. V plugs only fit V couplers. M plugs will fit M or V couplers.

[Todd W]

Anyone have a side by side comparison ?

[Todd W]

I think I`m using V, I got them from Sears... are they V does anyone know? Push on, gasket sealed too, pull coupler slips loose then finish separating by hand, tight fitting... ? How can I visually tell..

[ChiScouter]

Ive been looking around for the V style and it looks like it is a Milton only thing. Northern tool is selling them for 5.99 each, it appears that you can get up to 6 of them for a flat shipping rate of 5.99. I called McMasterCarr and they didn't seem to know anything about V style couplings

[1wook]

Here's a picture of a M and a V (on the right), both 1/4"
http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss57/1wook/misc/100_2118.jpg

Blain's Farm and Fleet had them for $5.99

[472Scout]

Are these V or M style?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65894

[darkstar]

Are these V or M style?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65894

don't know what they're supposed to be, other than leaky

[472Scout]

That was helpful.

[darkstar]

if you take the advice and dont buy crap fittings from HF then it was...

[472Scout]

if you take the advice and dont buy crap fittings from HF then it was...

It's a fitting not an electron microscope. If you've never used them STFU.

[darkstar]

Let me put it to you nicely: HF fittings suck. They all start to leak, sooner or later. usually sooner.

Or how about in the form of a flame, perhaps you prefer that?

OK fine, then go buy them, be frustrated because they leak, toss them and spend more money on the good ones you should have bought in the first place. don't learn a lesson from it, because you're a retard. :shaking:

[1wook]

Darkstar's right, the harbor freight ones leak allot. That's why I'm replacing them after 1 month.

[Indyguy]

I'm also replacing my HF leak-o-matics in the near future. I've lasted a good year; but I'm in the middle of a big project the past couple of months and its just getting too annoying to ignore.:shaking:

[472Scout]

Are you guys talking about the hi-flo or regular HF fittings? I've never had any issues with the regular fittings. The couplers I use are the ones that came on the HF hoses.

[nissancrawler]

I bought the regular hf fittings, they were on for less than two weeks when I replaced all of them. They leak like a sieve, the air compressor would cycle all the time.

[472Scout]

I bought the regular hf fittings, they were on for less than two weeks when I replaced all of them. They leak like a sieve, the air compressor would cycle all the time.

Good to know. Guess I was lucky to get a good lot. If I try the hi-flo ones I'll let you guys know.

[nissancrawler]

Yeah, damn air compressor kept waking me up as I'm sleeping in the den right against the garage wall.:laughing:

With the Milton fittings it only cycles every 7-10 days, and rarely when i'm sleeping.

[ChiScouter]

Im in the throes of finishing up my air compressor and while shopping for fittings I ended up at Farm and Fleet and broke my type V cherry. I took some measurments of the interior diameter of the male ends of some various fittings.

Generic 1/4" type M .200
Milton 1/4" type V .283
Generic 3/8" type M .318
Generic 1/2" type M .377
Inside of a generic 1/4" coupler at the treaded end .324"

So it looks like the limiting factor for airflow if you are using hose ends with 1/4" fittings is around .324 so all the couplers will reduce your airflow somewhat.

Im running some 1/2" hose with 1/2" fittings for use with a sandblaster, so Im probably going to put a 1/2" male end on my 2135ti impact for the most possible power and using my standard 3/8" hoses with the 1/4" ends for everything else.

[Austin4x4]

we use them at the shop i work at. pisses me off cuz i cant get them anywhere. the shop special orders them from napa.