Alright.... I figure the trans in my 1/2 ton only has about another 15-20k left on it before she goes. So I been casually lookin around for a new rig. The 1/2 ton has been doin alright for me, but I think it's time to step into the diesel market. Found this online locally today and I'm wondering if it's a good deal?

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/1167094682.html

Blue book puts the value around 29k. I got my truck now that I could/would trade in and it's value is about 8k. Figured if I like it enough I would offer the dealership 7k plus my trade in at 8k. Your thoughts?

Also, what you guys think I could expect for milage out of this thing? I don't have a heavy foot, but can occasionally get into the skinny pedal kinda deep.:D

Edit: Also, any issues/problems/bad things or the pros/cons about this year/make/model truck that I should be aware of......

what kind of truck are you trading?

No deal. I bought a 2007 4x4 F350 Diesel with 24k on it for $17,900

what kind of truck are you trading?

2000 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4. Loaded with the 5.3 and 180k on the clock. It Blue books for just under 9k, though I doubt I could get that for it. Excellent condition though, just higher miles. I figure I can get the stealership to give me 7500 for it though.

My first offer would total about 15k, figure 7500 for the trade and 7500 cash....

2000 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4. Loaded with the 5.3 and 180k on the clock. It Blue books for just under 9k, though I doubt I could get that for it. Excellent condition though, just higher miles. I figure I can get the stealership to give me 7500 for it though.

My first offer would total about 15k, figure 7500 for the trade and 7500 cash....

books as is reatails for 9? IF so the dealer is probably going to give you about 4500-5K real money. The problem is getting that truck financed with that many miles.


Too bad that truck doesnt have a stick in it. I would like to get rid of my 7.3L.

No deal. I bought a 2007 4x4 F350 Diesel with 24k on it for $17,900

I would venture to say the market s alittle different up here.

I would venture to say the market s alittle different up here.

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Diesel truck prices are nowhere near as low as what you see elsewhere in the country. I'm guessing it is due to the demand for them vs. the supply available. Anything but nearly brand new diesel trucks are really hard to find around here and you will pay dearly for one compared to what you could get if you flew somewhere and drove it home.

The price on the truck in question seems like what the dealers are usually asking for similar trucks around here IMHO.

books as is reatails for 9? IF so the dealer is probably going to give you about 4500-5K real money. The problem is getting that truck financed with that many miles.


Agreed, but there's a difference in what they'll give me vs. what I'll take for it. Plus that's the deal for my opening arguement... I would expect that they won't take the first offer.

I would venture to say the market s alittle different up here.

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Diesel truck prices are nowhere near as low as what you see elsewhere in the country. I'm guessing it is due to the demand for them vs. the supply available. Anything but nearly brand new diesel trucks are really hard to find around here and you will pay dearly for one compared to what you could get if you flew somewhere and drove it home.

The price on the truck in question seems like what the dealers are usually asking for similar trucks around here IMHO.

I agree with all of that. I won't give them their asking price if I decide that the truck is worth my time. Definitely what I'm looking for though.

They will offer $4000 for your truck and want $15k cash OTD....

If they take your offer from the original post, you will get the deal of the century....

good luck

I wouldn't buy a 6.0 ford, but that just me. We use to run nothing but them at my old job and always around 100k or so they would start blowing white smoke. Something with the egr and turbo. They have good power over the 7.3 but I would rather have a 7.3.

Why do you think the 6.0 only lasted from mid 03-08 before going to the 6.4. I think ford also sued navistar over all of the problems that they had with those motors.

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Edit: Also, any issues/problems/bad things or the pros/cons about this year/make/model truck that I should be aware of......

The whole fawking engine, no joke. The 6.0L is a ticking time bomb. Im sure someone on here is going to say "BS I got 500k miles on mine with zero problems" well that guy is a 1 in a million. And is not little engine problems, its turbos blowing up, the heads lifting puking coolant into the oil pan resulting in new rotating assembly. And the list goes on. Get a Cummins or Dmax, or if you have to have a ford get one with the 7.3 or the 6.4.

I'll second the don't buy a 6.0 sentiment. Our work truck has been giving us trouble. Random low power, no start, rough running/misfire and smoking. Not to mention it never runs the way you want when you want. My uncle also has one that hasn't been right in a long time. Seems like too much of a gamble to pay that kind of money for a possible POS.
Travis..

Three guys I know have the 6.0 and both of them have had to do head work for the truck. 1 is on his second transmisson and all three trucks have less then 100k. I would stay away from the 6.0 if you have to have the 6.0 I would at least get a 07 where they "said" they have the bugs worked out of them.

everyone i know with a fucking 6L has blow head gaskets and turbos froze up, biggest pile of shit engine to ever hit the market, dont do it.. i bet that thing just had an overhaul and the owner offed it before it happened to him again..

You are nuts if you think they will give you 8 for yours. A coworker just got rid of his '02 F150 4x4 similar specs to yours with 140k on it and they offered him $4500 real money, no BS overage figured in. He ended up selling it to his dad for $6500. My dad only got $6500 out of a '01 GMC loaded with every option and under 100k and that was in NE so similar market to MN.

Three guys I know have the 6.0 and both of them ...

:lmao:

You are nuts if you think they will give you 8 for yours. A coworker just got rid of his '02 F150 4x4 similar specs to yours with 140k on it and they offered him $4500 real money, no BS overage figured in. He ended up selling it to his dad for $6500. My dad only got $6500 out of a '01 GMC loaded with every option and under 100k and that was in NE so similar market to MN.

Thats what Im saying. People alwasy ask me "why dont you buy a new truck, they are sooo cheap" My answer is always the same "I gotta sell mine first".

The 180K is gonna be the issue with bringing the money you want. That and the facts its going on 10 years old...

You are nuts if you think they will give you 8 for yours. A coworker just got rid of his '02 F150 4x4 similar specs to yours with 140k on it and they offered him $4500 real money, no BS overage figured in. He ended up selling it to his dad for $6500. My dad only got $6500 out of a '01 GMC loaded with every option and under 100k and that was in NE so similar market to MN.

I know they won't give me 8 for my truck.. unless they're complete idiots. I won't know that though unless I start higher than I think I'll get. I don't expect to get anything over 4 or even 5k for it...:shaking: However, if they're dumb enough to give me the 8 that I open negotiations with then why wouldn't I start there...:D

The 180K is gonna be the issue with bringing the money you want. That and the facts its going on 10 years old...

I realize that it's getting up there in milage and that it's almost 10 years old. That doesn't bother me at all. It's damn clean considering the age and milage. Also, I don't have to get a new truck at this point in time. Just figured that if the deal is right why not?!

Another thing that I've been noticing, just an observation is all, is that everyone that's talking about blowing heads and turbos goin shitty and trans takin a dump on them are all "work trucks". I don't know about any of you, but when I was driving a "work truck"... well, hell I might as well have been driving a rental:grinpimp: I don't drive my personal truck anything like I would drive a work truck. Again, I'm not saying that all (or any) of you are beatin the piss out of these trucks. Just wondering how these things are fairing as a DD/weekend hauler. I'm not pullin no 16-18k pounds daily or anything like that. Just looking for a bigger truck with the ability to easily handle the weights that I normally haul. I've had my fair share of 'too much' weight behind my 1/2 ton...

Oh yea.. and nothing against the Dmax, but the Chev's are out. I'm looking to put a plow on it and would prefer a solid axle in teh front end.

Another thing that I've been noticing, just an observation is all, is that everyone that's talking about blowing heads and turbos goin shitty and trans takin a dump on them are all "work trucks". I don't know about any of you, but when I was driving a "work truck"... well, hell I might as well have been driving a rental:grinpimp: I don't drive my personal truck anything like I would drive a work truck. Again, I'm not saying that all (or any) of you are beatin the piss out of these trucks. Just wondering how these things are fairing as a DD/weekend hauler. I'm not pullin no 16-18k pounds daily or anything like that. Just looking for a bigger truck with the ability to easily handle the weights that I normally haul. I've had my fair share of 'too much' weight behind my 1/2 ton...

Nothing to do with it, some of the trucks I've seen done are dd or occasional drivers. There is a full warranty replacement program for 6.0L heads lifting where they fit them with new headstuds and gaskets. FWIW, you HAVE TO lift the cab off to do this job. Turbo's are also a regular occurance.

Now if it isn't under warranty still and you buy it and these things go... Well you might as well get someone with a cummins or d-max to push it into the river for you. DO NOT buy a 6.0L period. End of story. :mr-t::flipoff2:

Nothing to do with it, some of the trucks I've seen done are dd or occasional drivers.

Now if it isn't under warranty still and you buy it and these things go... Well you might as well get someone with a cummins or d-max to push it into the river for you. DO NOT buy a 6.0L period. End of story. :mr-t::flipoff2:

Alright.. I hear ya. Just trying to get all my information straight is all. :)

Question about the heads... what if the problem has already occured and been fixed? I don't know if this specific truck from the OP has had any problems or not, but if it has and these things have been fixed is the problem resolved? Or is this (head gaskets, turbo) a recurring problem regardless if it's been fixed once or twenty times?

do a google search on the engine, it will happen again. they are junk. work truck, hauler, daily driver, they fail time and time again..

My uncles truck is a personal DD/tow rig, so it isn't abused. Our work truck probably does get used a little rough though. Either way, trucks this new shouldn't be giving this much trouble. The fact that they will start to misfire or have a no start condition with zero warning is enough to scare me away. I would hate to be in BFE and have a no start.
Travis..