Here's my first post, hope you enjoy it.

so, to make a unique exo cage, one needs a unique tool. since i don't want to spend 1200 + dollars on a 3 roll bender, i decided to build one

we looked at what was on the market, 1100 plus shipping and exchange.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/6-1.jpg

but they make nice long radius bends

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/7-1.jpg

Me and Lane sat down one night and came up with a CAD drawing, we sourced out a water jet, and this is what came out of it

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/1-1.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/2-1.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/5-1.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/4-1.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/3-1.jpg

steel shmeel, this is what i have, it may not look like much but hopefully after tonight we will have machined some roller dies from it. This material is available from Johnston industrial plastics, it's called nylatron GSM, a moly impregnated nylon which is super dense, self lubricating (not wet though) and wear resistant. the guy on the phone said i may not need a bushing for the thru bolt, although i will use bearings. a set of steel dies 400+ canadian, 1 foot of 4" dia. nylatron 60 bucks. here are some links
RADIUS CALCULATOR
http://www.handymath.com/cgi-bin/rad2.cgi?submit=Entry

NYLATRON SPECS
http://www.jmjprofile.com/PlasticMaterialSpecs2.htm#nylatronSpecs

Johnston Plastics
http://www.johnstonplastics.com/

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01298.jpg

we cut a piece with a perfect .750 inch radius, then i ground a relief and filed the edges sharp
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01309.jpg
i first cut my depth and width and ruf cut with a small tool, after the basic shape was attained, i used the cutter we had made to get the radius just right.
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01308.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01313.jpg

then parted the individual roller, they will be faced to width and fitted with bearings
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01319.jpg

bearings set in place on the bottom rollers, the other upper roller will have a key way broached, will use a 7/8 inch keyed shaft and the bearings will be set in the top roller assembly
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01338.jpg

starting to look like a bender, just have to make the top assembly and cut some tube for seperators.
If your wondering what the 2 large nuts are for, 1 will be welded to the top end of the threaded rod the other at the end of the keyed shaft, this will be so i can use the same handle for each action

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/c2.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/c1.jpg

back from my parents place in scotia, while there i had a chance to do some machine work for roll bender top assembly.

using a boring bar i enlarged the center hole to .875 so i can fit a 7/8 keyed shaft through it.
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta11.jpg

broached a key way
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta12.jpg

i used the band saw to rough cut the 2 top pieces slightly larger than 4.5" x 4.0", each plate is 1" thich. one of these will be mounted solid to very top of the bender and will be threaded, the other will be part of the top roller assembly.
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta13.jpg

i milled the pieces down to 4.5" x 4.0"
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta14.jpg

one of the plates were drilled so the threaded rod could pass through
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta15.jpg

i cut the sides of the assembly in the same fashion as above, then placed them in a 4 jaw chuck so i could bore holes to fit bearings in them
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta16.jpg

used a boring bar to get the holes to 1.995" so the bearing will have an interference fit, the bearings are 2.000"
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta17.jpg

pressed the bearings in
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta20.jpg
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta19.jpg

just need to take these parts and put them together with the side plates
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/ta21.jpg

all pieces are together and fit just right, i will test it once i get some tube, still need to make a handle
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01604.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01605.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01608.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01615.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01618.jpg

with the help of some friends and access to some special equipment we have created a working 3 roll bender which saved us over $1000 and created a tool for the club. thanks to all who helped. check out the vid

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/th_ROLLBENDERVID.jpg (http://s649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/?action=view&current=ROLLBENDERVID.flv)


here's a few pics

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test1.jpg


http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test3.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test4.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test5.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test7.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/firstrollbentpieces.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01764.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01767.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01773.jpg


here are some links
RADIUS CALCULATOR
http://www.handymath.com/cgi-bin/rad2.cgi?submit=Entry

NYLATRON SPECS
http://www.jmjprofile.com/PlasticMaterialSpecs2.htm#nylatronSpecs

Johnston Plastics
http://www.johnstonplastics.com/

Very nice work on the roller, but that rear tube work is god awfull! :barf:

In! thanks.

Seriously...when will you have these for sale?:grinpimp::grinpimp::grinpimp:

Great tech! Definitely saving this one for sure!

Very nice work on the roller, but that rear tube work is god awfull! :barf:

X2 :laughing:

rolled bends are good if you can incorporate them without drawing attention to them... BTF's KOH rig, Zukizzy's rig, Rockbug all come to mind....

remember, less is more. :grinpimp:

awesome roll bender, it gives me ideas! I just dont like rolled tube enough to make one. :homer:

nice roller build...:grinpimp:

you know your truck will now be known as "bubblebutt" from now on... :flipoff2::D

In! thanks.

Seriously...when will you have these for sale?:grinpimp::grinpimp::grinpimp:


Seriously :D


Cool tool build !

Great first posts. I have a few questions. What is the tubing that you are bending, how much have you rolled so far, how are the dies holding up, and are you willing to share the cad drawings that you used for the side plates? Thanks.

Great first posts. I have a few questions. What is the tubing that you are bending, how much have you rolled so far, how are the dies holding up, and are you willing to share the cad drawings that you used for the side plates? Thanks.

1.5" x .120" hrew, what you see in the pic is what i have done so far. the dies are holding up fine, i'll see about the drawings... talk to ya later

1.5" x .120" hrew, what you see in the pic is what i have done so far. the dies are holding up fine, i'll see about the drawings... talk to ya later

Thanks.

Badass

:smokin:

X2 :laughing:

rolled bends are good if you can incorporate them without drawing attention to them... BTF's KOH rig, Zukizzy's rig, Rockbug all come to mind....

remember, less is more. :grinpimp:

awesome roll bender, it gives me ideas! I just dont like rolled tube enough to make one. :homer:

Once it is done it'll look good - it's hard to see the completed project at this stage. Besides - if we all had rigs that looked the same, wheeling would be pretty lame :flipoff2:

I will say this - his roll bender works really well. It pulls the tubing through like butter, and rolls it with ease.

Fawking awesome!
http://www.slicky.net/smilies/cooleek3.gif
Billy

Cool tool tech.

but the rig looks like a dome tent.

X2 :laughing:

rolled bends are good if you can incorporate them without drawing attention to them... BTF's KOH rig, Zukizzy's rig, Rockbug all come to mind....

remember, less is more. :grinpimp:

awesome roll bender, it gives me ideas! I just dont like rolled tube enough to make one. :homer:

who are you :shaking: i have'nt seen anything you have built :flipoff2:

very cool...

The bender looks great. Seems like it would be easier to buy/beef up/modify the Harbor Freight $150 roller.... There was a review in the tools section that wasn't half bad. Nice job either way!

we have a tool section............

Nice job on documenting the build! Welcome to Pirate:flipoff2:

Cool tool build.

But those are only good for ROLLING out circles or half circles. Not bending. You do that with a tub bender.

Cool tool build.

But those are only good for ROLLING out circles or half circles. Not bending. You do that with a tub bender.

Well - the tubing is no longer straight - so I guess it's now BENT isn't it?

And what the hell is a "tub bender"? Sheesh.

great work. how much do you have in it, less the labor? in us dollars please.

great work. how much do you have in it, less the labor? in us dollars please.

thanks for the props, contact your local suppliers for cost on materials.

these will cost you the most
4" diameter x 12" solid Nylatron
53" x 17" x 3/8" steel plate
4" x 10" x 1" steel plate
4" x 9" x 1/2" steel plate

add 50 to 100 dollars for hardware
bearings
collars
acme threaded rod
keyed shaft
keystock
nuts and bolts

Nice build!!!

with the help of some friends and access to some special equipment we have created a working 3 roll bender which saved us over $1000 and created a tool for the club. thanks to all who helped. check out the vid

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/th_ROLLBENDERVID.jpg (http://s649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/?action=view&current=ROLLBENDERVID.flv)


here's a few pics

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test1.jpg


http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test3.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test4.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test5.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/test7.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/firstrollbentpieces.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01764.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01767.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC01773.jpg


here are some links
RADIUS CALCULATOR
http://www.handymath.com/cgi-bin/rad2.cgi?submit=Entry

NYLATRON SPECS
http://www.jmjprofile.com/PlasticMaterialSpecs2.htm#nylatronSpecs

Johnston Plastics
http://www.johnstonplastics.com/


Nice looking work!

Good job!

HOLY MOLY, why do you reply with ALL of his pictures, lol! :homer:

Nice Job :smokin:

Bad ass tube roller, very nice design for sure. I want to build one, I just don't know how much I will actually use one. I might it the future.

Bad ass tube roller, very nice design for sure. I want to build one, I just don't know how much I will actually use one. I might it the future.

As has been said already in this thread for guy like us that might only use one now and again, Harbor Freight has one.

Full Pirate review with a dude that is making custom dies to fit the HF roller.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737981

Not saying the roller in this thread isn't super bad ass!!!

As has been said already in this thread for guy like us that might only use one now and again, Harbor Freight has one.

Full Pirate review with a dude that is making custom dies to fit the HF roller.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737981

Not saying the roller in this thread isn't super bad ass!!!


Oh yes I have read the thread, I know all about the HF roller. Guy at work bought one and we made custom dies for his. He loves it for what he does. Gates and whatnot. I just hate buying HF stuff. I know, I know, it's actually one of the better tools that have but still. I could make one at work no problem. We have a bunch of 1" Aluminum plate just laying around waiting to be used for.......something, like a tube roller. I have enough projects on my plate. Taking on another one is not want I want to do right now.

Got a long-term report on those plastic dies?

J. J.

would you consider sharing your .dwg file?

If so can you PM me so I can give you an email adress?

Contrary to what some said, I think that cage looks very nice. Being from a wilderness recreation background it remings me of the old badass Mountain Hardwear tents they use at basecamps on Everest and shit. I like the idea of a different style cage since they all start to look the same after a while. Very nice and bump in hopes that he comes back and sees this and updates us.

I have to say that this is the best homemade tool that I have seen here yet!:grinpimp: Extremely well built and the end product looks like a professional unit.... I am sure that if you would just powder coat it up, you could sell it for $750+. Just saying.....
Even with that said, I am a guy that makes my own tools as well and would love it if you wouldn't mind sharing your CAD file for the plates. I have a couple different design ideas for the slider plates and bearing design, but I don't have access to CAD software and would really appreciate it if you could help me out. Please shoot me a PM and I will send you my e-mail address if you don't mind.
Thank you very much and keep up the great work!!!:smokin:
- Matt

used a boring bar to get the holes to 1.995" so the bearing will have an interference fit, the bearings are 2.000"

I'm guessing this was 1.9995; I don't think the bearing would move anymore if it was somehow forced into a 5 thou press fit.

I'm guessing this was 1.9995; I don't think the bearing would move anymore if it was somehow forced into a 5 thou press fit.



Yep, that has to be a typo. That would destroy the bearing. Sure would like to see how he attached the acme screw to the roller block. Kinda curious because in the video when he moves the rollers to the next slot then re-installs the tube the roller moves up, but the acme threaded rod does not move. He does not have to unscrew it up the make room for the tube. Seems like the end of the shaft maybe is turned straight so the roller block floates on that portion of shaft. Still gets down pressure from something pushing on it like a welded nut or something, but the roller block won't fall out once the tube is removed. Maybe has something holding it too the shaft somehow. He much have had to back the pressure off the tube to remove it from the bender. Not sure why the middle roller moves up in the vid.

seriously nice bit of kit.
are you planning on making plans available?

Thanks for the comments, and sorry for the late response.

I have e-mailed all who are looking for the CAD file of the roll bender frame.

patooyee, the dies are doing very well, nylatron is pretty amazing, it's used as bushings in summit machine flex joints and in all kinds of other places.

1TON73K5, i'll take some pictures and show in more detail how the top roller assembly and acme thread is assembled.

later

Here's an update. started work on the rig again after alot of downtime,
the rollers are doing fine, anyone who's looking for the frame drawings
just send me a message.

One bar across the top of the windshield, one for the wheel arches, and
one across the front of the hood, that one is a combination of mandrel
bending and roll bending
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02353.jpg

following the top edge of the front fenders
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02499.jpg

everything tied togerther
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02863a.jpg

another view
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02856b.jpg

the shock hoops have an 8" radius, this is the limit of the bender as
the tube comes back around and hits the top of the bender
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02947.jpg
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02959.jpg

notice the bar across the bottom of the windshield, my hood works without
moding and the windshield can still be changed
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02958.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02952.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02956.jpg

I normally hate exocages. HATE them. But that looks pretty badass following the curves of the vehicle. Well done.

sweet comment, i don't particularly like them either.

Jeepserious, can I get the CAD files of a tube bender frame,please.
rino.belaic@globalnet.hr

Thanks in forward!

good job!
is possible to have a copy of your cad files?

thanks a lot

Fabien.prouvez@fpsystems.fr

I would like the CAD file as well.

RusowRacing@aol.com

Thank You

Do you find yourself moving the outer rollers much? I am designing some plates of my own and was thinking about making the drop in slots like yours and the Pro-tools one vs just a few holes with quick pins.

X2 on that question!

no, not really that much. i found that i can bend 1.5" .125 tube with the rollers towards the center, the outer slots would be good for thicker or larger diameter tubing, allowing you to apply more leverage to bend the stronger tubing

Mate that cage is sweet! I'd love a copy of the cad file too, if you could send it to sully243@hotmail.com

Cheers

Rob

I'll take a copy of that CAD drawing too if you don't mind. goatx2@cox.net

If you're sending them out, copy of cad file to sevenbrookswelding@ yahoo.

Thanks!

Here's an update. started work on the rig again after alot of downtime,
the rollers are doing fine, anyone who's looking for the frame drawings
just send me a message.

One bar across the top of the windshield, one for the wheel arches, and
one across the front of the hood, that one is a combination of mandrel
bending and roll bending
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02353.jpg

following the top edge of the front fenders
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02499.jpg

everything tied togerther
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02863a.jpg

another view
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02856b.jpg

the shock hoops have an 8" radius, this is the limit of the bender as
the tube comes back around and hits the top of the bender
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02947.jpg
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02959.jpg

notice the bar across the bottom of the windshield, my hood works without
moding and the windshield can still be changed
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02958.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02952.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02956.jpg

Looks great man! :smokin:

Great work mate! Those bends look ace.
Wouldn't be a problem to send a copy of those CAD drawnings? Thanks.

roman.rownanyk@wp.pl


Cheers

wow, nice tool. great work

please email cad file to agwillys@comcast.net
thanks!

If your not tired of sending out the cad file could you send me a copy thanks jeremy_bird_2000@yahoo.com if not I will understand

Great work mate!
can you please email cad file to petros_petros_k@yahoo.gr

Thanks.


Petros from Cyprus....

i could take a copy of the cad as well to crimsenfizzlefists@yahoo.com

Good looking work. Can I trouble you for a copy of those CAD drawnings?
ctcclowery@cableone.net
Thanks James L.

I'm VERY impressed with your roller build and the work it is doing. I'd really like a copy of the cad file too, sweethomewindshield@yahoo.com
Thanks, Paul

has anyone gotten a reply with the cad file?
i asked but never got a reply...

Nice work.

I agree. I usually hate exo cages, but that looks awesome. It flows with the shape of the vehicle very nicely. Well done.

Nice Tube work & Machine work!

I also would like copy of Cad File

Thanks dtwilli5@aol.com

That exo looks great! Nice job on the roll bender too! I bought the harbor freight bender and destroyed it. Been wanting to make one but I'm cad stupid. If you get a chance can I please have a copy of the cad file? anchovy@clearwire.net THANK YOU! Jamie.

Very nice.

I'd be interested in buying all the main parts from you. Any desire to make another? If so, what would it cost me? If not, care to share your CAD file(s) again (feltennova@hotmail.com)?

Thanks.

alrighty then, i have sent all of you a copy of the cad file for the bender frame, thanks for your comments.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/beastfrombackeast/DSC02956.jpg

I normally hate exocages. HATE them. But that looks pretty badass following the curves of the vehicle. Well done.

I gotta agree with the above.

It is definitely different than what is out there and that is good!

Front half is sweet. Not a big fan of the back though... Different strokes for different folks

without the rad, fuel cell, fenders and spare tire the shock hoops, long hoops and x kinda stand right out, i'll be posting more pics soon, thanks come again

I gotta agree with the above.
It is definitely different than what is out there and that is good!

gotta love a comment like that. come back i'll be posting more pics. in it's current state this cage could not take a hit.

Great work, I didn't think I needed a tubing roller. Now I do. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks

if you are building this, it would be a good idea to add guides so the curve you put into the tube does not turn into a helix.

also, one may want to look into the rollers used in fencing for gates, seen them but never measured the radius, probably a cheap and easy alternative to machining or buying rollers if it's a perfect fit to your tubing size. they may not even hold up but may be worth exploring.

if you are building this, it would be a good idea to add guides so the curve you put into the tube does not turn into a helix.

also, one may want to look into the rollers used in fencing for gates, seen them but never measured the radius, probably a cheap and easy alternative to machining or buying rollers if it's a perfect fit to your tubing size. they may not even hold up but may be worth exploring.4" & 6" {diameter} is typical around here.

http://www.wheelconz.co.nz/catalogue/wheels/ci100v-rb.jpg

http://www.acecasters.com/products/6x2%20power%20wheel.jpg

Harbor Freight has several sized cast iron casters. If you remove the rubber, you'll need to finish the wheel surface.
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=rigid+caster

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/166x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_17294.jpg

i would not use the v groove rollers. pending on how much you are going to work the tube and how much pressure you use for each pass you could end up transfering the shape of the v roller into the tubing.

not sure if the pictures above are v groove or radius rollers, but you should use rollers which contour the shape and size of tubing being bent. half of the circumference of the tubing should be in the roller. if you have the correct radius but wrong circumference i believe that this could also distort the tubing.

Awesome job on the bender and cage! If you don't mind could you send me the bender drawings please to the csuslosky@hvc.rr.com. thank you and great work!!

Cad to bbiizzaarr@yahoo.com please


Nice work.

if you are building this, it would be a good idea to add guides so the curve you put into the tube does not turn into a helix.

also, one may want to look into the rollers used in fencing for gates, seen them but never measured the radius, probably a cheap and easy alternative to machining or buying rollers if it's a perfect fit to your tubing size. they may not even hold up but may be worth exploring.

i would not use the v groove rollers. pending on how much you are going to work the tube and how much pressure you use for each pass you could end up transfering the shape of the v roller into the tubing.

not sure if the pictures above are v groove or radius rollers, but you should use rollers which contour the shape and size of tubing being bent. half of the circumference of the tubing should be in the roller. if you have the correct radius but wrong circumference i believe that this could also distort the tubing.

Did you mean these?


http://chainlinkfittings.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pipe-track-rollers.jpg


I really doubt they'd be strong enough.

that one looks like thin stamped steel and i have to agree that it would not hold up. the one i had seen was cast and seem to have some meat to it. do these fence gate rollers have a perfect .75" radius to them or are they slightly oversized.

Can you email me plans please

wkirkhope at gmail.com

thanks, looks tuff

any luck sending that email?
thanks

Ok I just went through "Show your hand made tools" thread and came across your unit here. If possible could you please email a copy of CAD file to me? riotwarrior at gee mail dot com

Love the tool just love it, what you've done with the exo cage is incredible and think it's freaky and cool all at the same time.

I'm in the market for plans etc for various tools, equipment to build and this is one bad ass unit.

Thanks
Riot!

Impressed with the build on the roller and Jeep. Are you still emailing out the CAD drawings if so please email to jhale8503@yahoo.com. Thanks