When using 79' Ford dana 60 front, anyone know what is the narrowest width you can end up with if using H1 or H2 wheels? What is the backspacing on a H1 or H2 wheel? I'm trying to see how narrow the jeep can be kept with full width axles. Looking at running a 38 x 14.50 TSL SX. Maybe even a 38 x 12.50 SX.

I'm not sure of the F*rd's width, but I am running a Chev 60. With H1s and 38 x12.50 SX tires, I was right at 77.5" or so. You could check the Dana 60 Bible and see what the WMS/WMS differences are between the F*rd and Chev. H2s aren't that narrow but are acceptable. I've run a '01-02ish Ram wheel that is narrower than the H2. With 37" Creepy Crawlers, I was around 79" (sidewall/sidewall). The H2s with the 40" Kevlar MTRs are about 81".

There are quite a few threads around with answers to your question. Might be worth sifting through them to get a better F*rd answer?

My setup is 80" outside of tire to outside of tire.

1978/79 Dana60 with H2 wheels and pro comp ex terrains 35x12.50x17

Here it is without any flares on it right now
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1151.jpg

More pics please!:D

My Yj has a d60 front and rear that's narrowed about 5" With 39.5s on 15x10s with 4" backspacing I'm About 80" wide. My buggy is running full width 60 up front with H1s and 1.5" spacers and 42s is pretty much the same width as my Yj. The only reason I know this is my trailer is a dropped style with fenders sticking up 18" and both just barely squeeze through the fenders.

My setup is 80" outside of tire to outside of tire.

1978/79 Dana60 with H2 wheels and pro comp ex terrains 35x12.50x17

Here it is without any flares on it right now
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1151.jpg

Yeah I am gonna need more pics of your setup also:D Close ups will do:)

i am 83" with H1's and 39.5x13.5x16.5 iroks. it also has 2" wheel spacers

I am in the 80ish range, ford 60 and H1's recentered, check my signature thread for more info, hope it helps.

H1s are 7"

My setup is 80" outside of tire to outside of tire.

1978/79 Dana60 with H2 wheels and pro comp ex terrains 35x12.50x17

Would like to see more pics as well. Are you running ford 60 rear as well? Any pics from the side?

Here's mine.

Around 80" to the outside of the 38.5" sx's.

1989 Ford dana 60, cut 6" off longside, drw hubs, h1 wheels with stock backspacing

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg51/yjpep/DSC00741.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg51/yjpep/DSC00851.jpg

Would like to see more pics as well. Are you running ford 60 rear as well? Any pics from the side?

Here are few more pictures I have, my build is still in process. For the rear Axle I used a Dana 70U that I picked up that was narrowed to 69" WMS to WMS. The Ford Dana 60 Rear axle was 2" narrower per side than the front axle and I did not like the look of that much offset and did not want to run wheel spacers. I used the ruff stuff axle brackets with the 3 mounting hole positions and have the rear axle pushed back 1" right now.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1149.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1150.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1152.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1154.jpg

Yeah I am gonna need more pics of your setup also:D Close ups will do:)


did you have to cut down the axle of outbroad the springs

WMS is 69.5". H2 wheels are 9" wide with about 5.5" bs. So that puts you to about 76.5" outside of wheel to outside of wheel. Add a couple of inches for the tires. I'm about 81" with 37x12.5 tires.

You can't go much narrower with the yj or you'll end up in the frame or springs at full lock.

I'm around 85" outside to outside in the front with 17x9 wheels and 3.75"bs. I would not want to be any narrower.

holy huge batman!!!!! haha thats WIDE

Thats what your old lady tells me every night when I'm pounding her from the backside :laughing:

I'm around 85" outside to outside in the front with 17x9 wheels and 3.75"bs. I would not want to be any narrower.


I love the stance

do you have rear measurements? And maybe a pic

H1s are 7"


Yeah, if you run the backspacing of the H1, you have to use spacers to avoid hitting knuckle/steering components, so it kind of cancels out your quest for narrower stance. looks like H2 wheels are a better bet, if you don't wanna mess with recentering.

I'm around 85" outside to outside in the front with 17x9 wheels and 3.75"bs. I would not want to be any narrower.

X2. I have no idea how you would turn(respectably) with that big of a tire. It would suck. I run 39" Krawlers on a 2" narrowed Ford 60(67 1/4" WMS now) and 17x9's with 3.5" backspacing and am at 83.5" outside tire. My 39's just about hit the leaf springs and frame with this setup.

Not really a good pic

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Ridinspinnas/Projects/DSCF0869.jpg

Little bit better pic

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Ridinspinnas/Marathon%2008/Thon_2008_639.jpg

Yeah, if you run the backspacing of the H1, you have to use spacers to avoid hitting knuckle/steering components, so it kind of cancels out your quest for narrower stance. looks like H2 wheels are a better bet, if you don't wanna mess with recentering.

This is true. Your best bet would be to run 17 inch rim with 3.5 bs. The dual piston calipers might be an issue for you as well.

Mine sits at 83.5' wide rim to rim.

I'm at 83" in the back, 1" narrower on each side as compared to the front. This is the stance I wanted when I started my build, seems to turn better with the front being a little wider.

I DDed my YJ on a Gm 60 front, full width, stock H1's and ran both 38x12.5 SX's and mostly 385x14.5 SX's. I had 7" Omix Ada flares and I could barely squeak by inspection in NH. I recently sold the Jeep this Spring to another local guy. Both my bro's Jeep and mine were/are set up this way. If you search under our screen names on forum.neow.net (HEEPJEEP and Lumberjack5500 you can find pics).

So to stay around 81" outside of tire to outside of tire.... What can you do about the hubs sticking so far out there? I know you could run a Drive Flange but how short can you get those, and not have anything out past the wheel?

If you want to keep it narrower why not shorten the axle :confused:

I ran a full width Ford 60 w/3.5 and 3.75" backspacing and 14.5 and 13.5" wide tires and it was fine. It was not super narrow, but it turned sharp enough, and made it down all the trails I did.

Was a blast in the snow to slide, etc.

So to stay around 81" outside of tire to outside of tire.... What can you do about the hubs sticking so far out there? I know you could run a Drive Flange but how short can you get those, and not have anything out past the wheel?

Narrow the axle and run drw hubs.

You can regular lockouts with this setup and keep everything inside the wheel.

I'll probably get flamed for this, but what is the axle width difference between the Ford and FSJ D44/D60 from a 1984 J20?

2 or 3 inch

Which way- Jeep is wider or ford is wider?

Ford is wider

79 Ford Dana 60, H2 wheels, 40x16x17 LTBs == 83" sidewall to sidewall.

CUCV 14 bolt rear, SRW, H2 wheels, 40x16x17 LTBs == 80" sidewall to sidewall.

My recommendation is to leave it full width and go with flanges. They only stick out about .25" beyond the hub. Lockouts are well over an inch. Sure, they'll take some scuffs, but it won't much matter. I had a buddy that narrowed the axle, then had to run less BS wheels to clear - in the end he's the same width as my full width with higher BS wheels.

My setup is 80" outside of tire to outside of tire.

1978/79 Dana60 with H2 wheels and pro comp ex terrains 35x12.50x17

Here it is without any flares on it right now
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1151.jpg

Are you running Hubs or a Drive Flange?

Are you running Hubs or a Drive Flange?

The good old Factory Dana Spicer Hubs...

My setup is 80" outside of tire to outside of tire.

1978/79 Dana60 with H2 wheels and pro comp ex terrains 35x12.50x17

Here it is without any flares on it right now
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/IMG_1151.jpg

no shocks? Otherwise thats a very nice YJ.

no shocks? Otherwise thats a very nice YJ.

Here it is with shocks and out on the trail being put to the flex test
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/nitz440/0908010032.jpg

Hay Nitzpixs would you mind seeing what the distance is from the spring center pin to the greese fitting on the top of the king pin is for me? I have a 60 out of a 91 f350 and I need to retube the short side and shorten the long side so it just bolt right into my YJ. any help I could get would be great thanks.

when i originally built my YJ, i used a dodge 60, with h2's, 37's, and 99" wheel base, it eventually ended up on 40" TSL's with 11x17 wheels and 5.5" backspacing. The h2's were just narrow and didn't hold up well in the rocks, but here's some pics since that seems to be what you're looking for.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/Trip%20Reports/Moab/Carrie_RustyNail01.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/YJ%20Tech/YJSide6-22-04.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/YJ%20Tech/YJatwork7.jpg

at some point, being so narrow, this will happen to you :flipoff2:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/Trip%20Reports/Moab/YJFlop1.jpg

Loosing the flares and adding some 38.5x14.5-15 SX's on a 15x10 wheel made a huge difference in looks and stability :D
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/YJ%20Tech/YJnoflares014.jpg

here's where it finally ended up at 106" wheel base and 40's and it worked WAY better than the original set up.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/YJ%20Tech/Hood_Grill_Tubefenders078.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/Trip%20Reports/Moab/UpperHelderado03.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/wallysheata/Trip%20Reports/Moab/November_2006_Billings0041.jpg

I am new to Pirate 4x4 and was wondering what you guys mean when you say H2s in regards to axles

h2 hummer wheels