: Slightly different (and possibly stupid and useless) take on cuting brakes


BillaVista
09-06-2002, 06:57 PM
Did a search and some reading on cutting brakes - pretty sure I get it.

But I was thinking, what about this.

You know how sometimes a drawback to a spool or locked rear is that it will slip sideways, especially in RWD?

How about using that to advantage...like having a line-lok to lock the front brakes only (might as well be both at once in my case since front and rear are spooled), shift T-case to RWD, and gas it, slipping the rear sideways?

Work? Effective? Any one used this technique? Stupid waste of time?

I'm looking for any and all ways to get the beast to steer slightly better than a CV!

On the topic.....would the single manual line lock in the rear circuit actually work - as in, flip the lock BEFORE stepping on the pedal, step on pedal to brake front only, then gas it?

elf_cruiser
09-06-2002, 07:02 PM
People have been doing that for a while, I do it all the time, and yes it's useful. as for the operation of the rear linelock, i don't know - I only have rear brakes anyways...

JEEPRZ
09-06-2002, 07:21 PM
Downside would be lack of control. You gas on it, how far down hill would it go? May be a bit scary doin that on a side hill thats steep enough to let it slide any way.

There are different types of line locks. Some block flow in one direction only when engaged, some block in both directions

Cheepin
09-06-2002, 07:22 PM
I don't have a line lock or cutter brakes,but I do this all the time.If I need the ass to be over a little I will slap it in 2wd and spin the rear tires.If need be I have people push to help it slide.Works great in the snow to get around that one rock that the rear diff is hitting.My Jeep will have dual cutters rear and aline lock in front.Along with a twin stick.Blazin:D

BillaVista
09-06-2002, 07:40 PM
Downside would be lack of control.

That's a problem the second I climb behind the wheel! :flipoff2:

There are different types of line locks. Some block flow in one direction only when engaged, some block in both directions

Thanks for the heads-up

Lance
09-06-2002, 08:37 PM
Go out to a competition sometime. You will see every type of technique you can think of being used. ;)

On my rig I have just a single line lock (electric, plumbed into the rear line) going to the rear brakes. Hit the switch, then hit the brakes, and it effectively blocks fluid to the rear brakes. Hit the brakes then hit the switch, and it locks the rear brakes only. $39 at www.summitracing.com

Jeffh555
09-06-2002, 08:46 PM
i had been contemplating this a few months ago, my friends found that if you had a front wheel drive car in the mud, and pull the e-brake (locking up the rear wheels) turn the wheels and dump the clutch, the car would spin around in an incredibly tight circle.

so i was thinking, wouldnt that be usefull in my jeep? since i have a full time mode on my t-case, couldnt i some how lock up the rear wheels (line lock or e-brake) and then all the power would go through the front axle?

i'm sure my D30 would love that :D

shaggyzukin
09-06-2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Jeffh555
i had been contemplating this a few months ago, my friends found that if you had a front wheel drive car in the mud, and pull the e-brake (locking up the rear wheels) turn the wheels and dump the clutch, the car would spin around in an incredibly tight circle.

so i was thinking, wouldnt that be usefull in my jeep? since i have a full time mode on my t-case, couldnt i some how lock up the rear wheels (line lock or e-brake) and then all the power would go through the front axle?

i'm sure my D30 would love that :D

Can you shift into front wheel drive only? If your back tires can't turn, than the fronts won't either. I was going to modify my dana20 t-case in my jeep to be able to disconnect the front or rear axle and then use line locks to lock up the disconnected axle. Then it would be as easy as "turn and hit the stupid pedal".
Shaggy

Jeffh555
09-08-2002, 12:35 PM
if i could, it would be simple, but i have a NP242, there are five modes in the t-case; 2x4, 4x4 part time, 4x4 full time, N, and 4x4 low, my understanding is that there is an open differential in the t-case that is open in full time, and locked in part time and low.

Robert
09-08-2002, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Jeffh555
i had been contemplating this a few months ago, my friends found that if you had a front wheel drive car in the mud, and pull the e-brake (locking up the rear wheels) turn the wheels and dump the clutch, the car would spin around in an incredibly tight circle.



This has been around for some time. A fun trick with a front wheel drive car or a 4x with front drive only, is to get a couple of fast food trays, put them under the rear tires, set the parking brake and have some fun!!!
Best to try this in a big empty parking lot;)

Jason R
09-08-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Robert


This has been around for some time. A fun trick with a front wheel drive car or a 4x with front drive only, is to get a couple of fast food trays, put them under the rear tires, set the parking brake and have some fun!!!
Best to try this in a big empty parking lot;)

Still waitin to try that. Who has a FWD vehicle that I could use? :flipoff2:

Jeffh555
09-08-2002, 07:22 PM
ya, i've done that, you need a really big parking lot, and alot of fast food trays, cause you'll go through them.