For those of you that park at the Kiosk, there are no markings to show where to park. On my last trip in, I observed from the top of the dam that rigs were parked so that large areas were inaccessible for more parking.

This is due to no thought when parking. Leave some room for the next guy. If there are a couple of you, park nose to tail or double park in a way that maximizes space.

The parking at the helipad near the Chalet seems to be better for some reason. Maybe it is the layout of the turn around.

Also, please try not to park right in front of or next to the Kiosk. We have volunteers coming in and they need to be right there. I guess we will need to mark off some space there. Any ideas on how??

Climbing down off my soapbox, Scott

with verbage for anyone to understand. Or a sign and some pillar posts indicating how to park. (nose to nose etc)

We'll get there with the sign deal. There is alot on the plate still. My hope is for a sign there and better signage along the road.

How about something like this?
I've done hundreds of cell sites to draw the yellow caution area near the antennas. I still have the painter. I can pick up a can of paint tonight and mark the area in front of the kiosk tomorrow if you think it's a good idea.

PS: I've done grass and dirt, too. It still shows up well for a while, but of course - after a bunch of dirt and dust covers it...

Bad idea. Keep the city stripes in the city

We've been around this bend before -- we didn't come out with an executable plan. I'd LOVE to see suggestions of one -- El Dorado County has a pretty good history of working with us when we bring to their attention a problem with a suggested solution.

Unless that area is fully developed (lots of gravel, dynamite to knock down ridges, and yellow strips), it is going to be tough to mark out or sign out a solution (but by all means, please suggest!). In the mean time, Scott nailed it: park to help out the other guy, especially on holiday weekends. The Chalet overflow parking lot / old quarry is a great place to park, as well, but here again -- park to help out the other guy. Remember that agencies in the past have managed parking problems by limiting access, and let's avoid giving them even the slightest reason to consider it.

Something else you can do -- take pictures of bad parking and post up here. If somebody parks and blocks off a bunch of usable space, take a pic, post it here, and let the people decide... I'm not sure we'll get to a functional decision with he-said, she-said, but I reckon heightened awareness and an increased desire not to be 'that guy' will result.

Randii

While staffing the kiosk today, I played the additional role of parking attendant. I suggested parking locations for people.

Some wanted to park in front of the kiosk, others were about to park at silly angles. A friendly suggestion went a long way, and they were all respectful and complied. Every person was able to get in and out easily without a single issue.

Well done!1 Great idea. Continuing education on so many levels.......AWESOME

I'm sure someone has a picture of the spillway during a busy weekend showing tow rigs parked accordingly to allow maximum use of space without blocking people in. If a couple of signs are built with said picture showing recommended parking, and placed at the top of the spillway and maybe midway down, it might help with the education process.
THe signs could be a permanent summer fixture or something that is stored in the Kiosk and placed out on weekends. Just a thought.

It all comes down to the user of the trail head.Alot of us know that when we stage the trail,we will not get reamed by someone saying (I parked my trailer in the wrong spot.....On another note,I think they should have never gotten rid of the gatekeeper.That would keep all the gappers from getting in the trail.But the past is the past......I just hope everybody takes all this to heart.Regulations suck!!!!All you Gappers don,t Know any better.The days of old are long gone!!!!That really sucks!!!!!!!!All you newbs..You will never know how it used to be.....:confused:

On another note,I think they should have never gotten rid of the gatekeeper.That would keep all the gappers from getting in the trail.But the past is the past......I just hope everybody takes all this to heart.Regulations suck!!!!All you Gappers don,t Know any better.The days of old are long gone!!!!That really sucks!!!!!!!!All you newbs..You will never know how it used to be.....:confused:

I also don't agree with blasting gatekeeper. That being said, what exactly do you mean by the "days of old"?

10 years ago? 20 years ago? 50 years ago?

The first time I ran the Rubicon Trail I don't remember the gatekeeper being all that difficult. And I only had a little Toy on 31" tires.

Regards,
....Mike

Any gatekeeper comments need to be kept to other threads.

The purpose of this one is parking.

Thanks, Scott

I dont know if its of any help or not, but we have stacked tow rigs on trailers to save space. First person parks with trailer, second person parks tow rig on trailer, third person parks tow rig on that persons trailer. This only works when you are all wheeling in/out at the same time/together, but every little bit might make a difference.

Dane

scott,

if your talking about an old green 71' chevy...you can yell at me...:smokin: