I was wondering what the MINIMUM mounting width is on a front Rockwell?

How bout a rear?

Just thinking about what all I would have to change to get a set under my truck.

Thanks!

Just finish it first :flipoff2: then think about tearing it up again.

Originally posted by Bones
Just finish it first :flipoff2: then think about tearing it up again.

Thats probably a good idea:D

Naw, I was just wondering. If I did do ANY other axles I would just wait on a deal, get them and save up the parts in a pile in the corner. No more of this down for a year shiat!

Really what got me thinkin about them was this weekend at EROCC how the two toys were flopping on their backs like 2 dollar hookers. They have been the whole competition! Also, I have seen broken birfields, broken longfields, stripped r+p's, etc...

That kinda shiat puts funny things in your head like ROckwells:D

Come awn ya'll! I'll take an estimate! You dont have to be exact inch for inch!

Hey TyTy,

Sorry I didn't get to talk to you and Patoyee longer Sunday, but Spaceghost and Bigdude had a little emergency radiator work to do. Nothing a two pound glob of JB Weld and 1000 packs of Hardees pepper couldn't fix though.(little inside joke there)

Rockwells are approximately 70" hub to hub, that is with the front hubs reversed to match the rears. The front axle can be narrowed 7" by cutting the 7" out of the long side and running a short side axle. I have a friend of mine that is working on narrowing the rear the same amount. He is in the process of building a jig to keep everything straight, but it really fairly simple. I'll let you know how they do after a little testing. It is toploader4x4 (red hybrid on rockwells at ERoCC) that is doing it so it will get thoroughly tested.

Not sure if that answers your question, if not, try again, I usually get it right the second time.:p

Hey 350Sammi, not to change the subject, but do you have any pics of your rig gettin it awn? The driveway shots are nice but you know....

Here are a few, I'm usually taking the pics so I don't get that many of myself. http://www.rattlerock.com/tellico.htm

350...

Ha, that is fine about the talking deal. That was good of you to help Mike like that. We wanted to but we had to take off, 10 hour drive for me combined with 7:30 AM to be at work/ school I wanted to get on the road:D

Anyway, naw, you didnt really answer my question:D

My question is concerning leaf springs (I should have been more clear), the minimum mounting width if you used them on a set of Rockwells. Meaning, can I bolt a rockwell to my leafs I already have mounted all nice and purty?

Also if you know, what is the stroke you need for a hydraulic ram? Will 8" do?

Thanks!

Originally posted by TyTy
My question is concerning leaf springs (I should have been more clear), the minimum mounting width if you used them on a set of Rockwells. Meaning, can I bolt a rockwell to my leafs I already have mounted all nice and purty?

Also if you know, what is the stroke you need for a hydraulic ram? Will 8" do?
Thanks!

On the short side, from the toploader to the hub is 22 3/4"

If you double that and subtract from the total width (70"), you end up with a minimum available width of 24 1/2".

So, as long as the width of your springs is wider than 24 1/2" you should be able to mount them up. A Samurai is 28 1/2 and I think a Toyota is just a half inch wider, so at 29" you should have 4 1/2" to spare, or 2 1/4" per side.

An 8" ram won't work unless you mount the end of the ram onto the actual steering arm somewhere. Mine is mounted to the tie-rod and it needs a 9 1/2" throw. A buddy of mine used an 8" ram and mounted it to the steering arm close to the axle, but he had trouble turning because the ram didn't have the leverage that it needed. He was using the stock Saginaw pump, so maybe if it had a smaller pulley on it that kept the pressure up it could work.

Thats awesome! One last thing, do you know aproximatly the height from the top of the axle tube to the top of the highest part on a rockwell?

That is the last thing, I promise I wont bother you anymore! Im sure yall get tired of answeering rockwell questions. Maybe Ill be able to get a set on my junk and then you can send people to me:D

Originally posted by TyTy
One last thing, do you know aproximatly the height from the top of the axle tube to the top of the highest part on a rockwell?

That is the last thing, I promise I wont bother you anymore! Im sure yall get tired of answeering rockwell questions. Maybe Ill be able to get a set on my junk and then you can send people to me:D
Can you actually call it a axle "tube", since it's square?;)
Whatever it is, it's about 9 1/2" from it to the top of the 3rd member.

Don't worry about asking questions, I'm sure I've asked my share. If I haven't, I will. :D

Originally posted by 350 Samurai
Here are a few, I'm usually taking the pics so I don't get that many of myself. http://www.rattlerock.com/tellico.htm

350, you should have hollered at me to get my son and I out of your picture so we could have responded in Pirate style...:flipoff2:

http://www.rattlerock.com/images/ERoCC%20Championships/P9080051.JPG

350sammy - sorry to get off-topic here, but what did you make your front links out of?? I was just checkin out the pics you linked and i saw this one:
http://www.rattlerock.com/images/Tellico,%20Labor%20Day/P9010088.JPG

How did that happen? Did you land on something and bend it? Or did it bend from axle wrap?? I am starting the plans for my front CO suspension, and i want to know what happened...

Thanks a ton!!

TyTy - just get the rockwells, you will be happy - also PM ECF he has a minitruck with rockwells. As for the leaf spring thing, I have mine sitting under an FJ40 with stock leaves in the stock location, and trust me, that is AS NARROW as you can go. If you are any narrower than FJ front springs, you can't do it. Honestly, though with rockwells, you will want control arms. I have been bending leaves left and right since I got to AZ...

On the front axle your limited to about 31" as the closest you can go

Thanks for the info. That is exactly what I needed!

I think theyll bolt up to my springs. I have mine outboarded a couple inches cause of my forward axle. I dont want to redo my front suspension so this is great for me. I planned on doing somehting different in the rear anyway so it will be no inconvenice on that end.

elf_cruiser: I already PM'd ECF:D He was helpful. He said I will be able to mount them but he dosent know if I have enough forward axle. I would like to do coils or somehting in the front but I dont have the money or want to spend the time redoing my leafs.

I DO want the d-shaft angle yall have though.:D I cant afford to be tearin up 250 dollar shafts!

All in all I think Rockwells will save me some money. Less shaft breakage, dont have to get birfields or the rebuild kit Im needing for my toy axles and I dont have to worry about breaking jack in my axles and probably the d-shafts.

thanks again for the info. ! Im gonna take some measurements this weekend and make a decision.