Was at the local dealer today and they quoted me $7000 and up in the MX section of adult MX dirt bikes. When I turned to the used section I was told that the bike I was looking at was a friend's yadda yadda for 5k (you know the drill). While still in tire kicking mode the guy mentions that he has some new in the crate 2007 Honda MX 250's for $4500. Would that be a smokin deal? Sure seems like it. Same thing essentially as the $7000 bikes out front, but with 2 year old technology - still new in the crate.

I'm crazy to not buy it right?

$4500 out the door? They probably will stick you with a setup fee and a bunch of other BS.


I bought my 08 kx250f used for $4200. It was 3 months old, barely ridden, and came with a set of new plastics.

that's a good deal but you can do better if you put the screws to them. the 07 honda 250 is a dirty whore though. pain in the ass to start... auto compression release junk that sometimes stays open and has NO compression so it won't start.

funky dual exhaust, so if you replace the cans it's like $800 now.

valves come out of adjustment by simply looking at the bike.

Buy a yamaha or a kawi. Don't let honda's "reputation" get another buyer. Just cause their lawn mowers are sick, doesn't make their mx bikes gold ;)

the yamaha out handles the kawi 250 and the 07 yam was KILLER.

Well I'm glad to hear some real opinions. I was considering the honda based on an old car that I just couldn't kill, my lawn mower, and the like - you nailed it. I ran a ktm for a while, and would do it again, but cost kills me. I'm looking for a deal that I just cannot pass up. Ofcourse it has to be a decent machine (as the honda name implies), but if you have to work on it more than ride it, then it isn't really that great of a deal then is it.

What is so wrong with the valves? I thought the dual exhaust thing was supposedly a good idea.

I really have no brand preference, but I do wonder about certain features. I looked at a suzuki and was told that the engine oil and tranny oil are shared (same case). Didn't like that so I walked.

Don't have a kawi dealer near by, but that or KTM seems to be the way to go.

Ofcourse the honda got pretty decent raves on the review websites also, so who knows.

To be honest, I want Camo's KTM, but naturally the fawker has to live way over there.lol

The cost of transporting Camo's KTM may be a lot less than you think. If you check with Emievel (my son), he should be able to help.
I explained in detail why you should avoid the Honda 250f in another thread titled "I really, really, really, want a dirt bike". IMHO, all of the current 250 four-stroke motors are so overstressed that you're basically buying a grenade with a short fuse. Camo's bike seems like a good deal, and with normal maintainence, it should last a long time.
BTW, you may want to take a close look at the factory Honda 250f's competing in the National's. I don't think that they've run dual exhausts in years.

if you would be interested in a bigger bike i got a 05 crf450r that i would be willing to sell. it's only got like 4 hours on it.

Well I'm glad to hear some real opinions. I was considering the honda based on an old car that I just couldn't kill, my lawn mower, and the like - you nailed it. I ran a ktm for a while, and would do it again, but cost kills me. I'm looking for a deal that I just cannot pass up. Ofcourse it has to be a decent machine (as the honda name implies), but if you have to work on it more than ride it, then it isn't really that great of a deal then is it.

What is so wrong with the valves? I thought the dual exhaust thing was supposedly a good idea.

I really have no brand preference, but I do wonder about certain features. I looked at a suzuki and was told that the engine oil and tranny oil are shared (same case). Didn't like that so I walked.

Don't have a kawi dealer near by, but that or KTM seems to be the way to go.

Ofcourse the honda got pretty decent raves on the review websites also, so who knows.

To be honest, I want Camo's KTM, but naturally the fawker has to live way over there.lol

seperate motor and clutch oil chambers = changing oil even more often than the already ridiculous amount you have to w/ a four stroke.

the rm250f hasn't even been anything to rave about. I wouldn't even look at it unless you're getting a factory race bike for dirt cheap.

the ktm's have a great motor but felt funny to me until this year's bike.



How about instead of speculating and giving my potentially pointless opinions...

-what is your intended use for the bike?
-what do you weigh?
-how old are you?
-what is your experience level?
-do you hope to be at the front of the pack or is this just for fun?

OK...

This is just for fun. I did the whole go-kart - dirtbike - tough truck thing for years until I was 18. I did mostly local arenas and outdoor events - nothing huge or at the national level. It's funny how having a kid that young will change things. I was pretty decent then, so I'd imagine I could still get a little stupid from time to time at 26 yrs old since I haven't been completely dormant - just bike poor. I am now 6'2" and about 245#.

Actual use of the bike would be trail riding. Not just the normal one track through the woods though. If you are familiar with the trails at Talamena, OK (and I don;t expect you would be) they are sick. Stumps to pop over - rocks the size of bowling balls and up at 30 mph and up just to have a chance at making it up the hill. It's insane. I only thought I was a good rider until an old guy I worked with took me out there. The new challenge hooked me again.

At this time I'd just like to get polished up a bit and have some fun. In the future I'll likely get braver and do more. Competing is pretty well out. I'm back in school and there is nothing to do in this little town. They have a nice dirt track to play on for the remainder of my stay, then it's off to the woods again.

As far as power goes, I don't think there is really going to be a big problem with too powerful of a bike up to the 400 or 450 size. I'm comfortable on those. The 300's seem to have plenty of pep. The 250 would be the smallest I'd consider. This is before reading some of these threads, and my own research. It now seems silly to even consider getting on that thing and expecting it to keep up for long. I just thought the 4-stroke grunt combined with the price would make it a nice weekend joyride.

get a 450.

a 250 will be a slug for you at that size and weight. I'm 170ish and 5'10" on a 450 for years now.

You might consider not getting a mx bike for your application. You might end up liking a wider gear box, heavier flywheel, and softer suspension for trail use, regardless of how sick the trails are. You'll never be able to use the mx bike fully in that application and you might end up wanting that lower first and longer top gear of the woods bike. Another good thing about that is you're back in the ktm realm. They make 500000000 bikes that fit your application.

Look into a 505/525/450's.... ex/c or mx/c.... you'll be able to pick up a used one and be little more confident that it hasn't been able to run itself into the ground quite as hard as a self destructive mx bike can.