I think so...

http://nismostuff.blogspot.com/2009/06/most-badass-2nd-gen-xterra-on-planet.html

ummm idk if i would go that far

I'm gonna say no but probably the most expensive ever...

Defiantly Not, Still partial to Boondox's just because of the stance of it.:mr-t:

Defiantly Not, Still partial to Boondox's just because of the stance of it.:mr-t:


Thank you :D, Its the most badass IFS Xterra..

ummm idk if i would go that far

show me one with more hard core custom fabrication....

Are you guys even gonna get close to 12" travel from those stock-length front arms? I have over 11" travel with the Titan arms and custom coilovers. I could get more if I ditched the inner fender though and ran glass fenders. If you guys ever race down here, we'll have to prerun together.


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m138/prgproducts/xjump2-12.jpg

I would think the most badass would at least be 4WD? 2 wheel drive sport utes are just over grown station wagons. :flipoff2:

I would think the most badass would at least be 4WD? 2 wheel drive sport utes are just over grown station wagons. :flipoff2:

It will go faster and over rougher terrain than ANY 4WD Xterra, anywhere...

But can it go ANYWHERE a 4 wheel drive Xterra can go? So it can go fast on fire roads, whoop dee doo! can it take a family of 4 with camping gear to a secluded fishing spot? Can it make a trip from the east coast to the west? Other than the body, what makes it more usefull than a sand rail?

But can it go ANYWHERE a 4 wheel drive Xterra can go? So it can go fast on fire roads, whoop dee doo! can it take a family of 4 with camping gear to a secluded fishing spot? Can it make a trip from the east coast to the west? Other than the body, what makes it more usefull than a sand rail?


If you think it can only do fire roads you obviously have never been west of the Mississippi to see a desert race...I suggest you get out more often...

you're just mad that we're not jacking off to the pics, like you are.

you're just mad that we're not jacking off to the pics, like you are.

Hardly...I'm just not stuck on the 1970's idea that solid axles and rock CRAWLING are the coolest thing around...

Who said solid axles? go back a read my post, it says 4 wheel drive! I don't doubt IFS, but if those front tires are not pulling I am sure that there is plenty of places that a fast station wagon will not go. I'd like to see some places where that go fast X can go that a 4 wheel drive X can't. Sure it will take longer, but not everything can be conquered by going 100mph.

Hardly...I'm just not stuck on the 1970's idea that solid axles and rock CRAWLING are the coolest thing around...

2wd is for pussies.

and that Xterra doesn't even look that capable. it uses stock IFS geometry, so it has hardly any travel. they put so much custom fabrication into the roll cage, rear axle, and frame itself, but they couldn't invest in a front long-arm setup.

that Xterra is nothing more than a poor man's trophy truck.

It will go faster and over rougher terrain than ANY 4WD Xterra, anywhere...

i'd like to see it do the Rubicon, or the Hammers...

My X can make it :D Props to spalind & greg for supporting
nissan. Plus leading the way for more aftermarket parts for us.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo152/xterra_309/badlands/100_1688.jpg

2wd is for pussies.

Tell that to Robby Gordon, BJ Baldwin, the Herbst family, Larry Rosseler, Rob Mac and on and on and on...you should not talk about which you do not know...

But can it go ANYWHERE a 4 wheel drive Xterra can go? So it can go fast on fire roads, whoop dee doo! can it take a family of 4 with camping gear to a secluded fishing spot? Can it make a trip from the east coast to the west? Other than the body, what makes it more usefull than a sand rail?

Theres something that will always test what you just said. I like the truck but i am partial to Boondox's.

Tell that to Robby Gordon, BJ Baldwin, the Herbst family, Larry Rosseler, Rob Mac and on and on and on...you should not talk about which you do not know...

I love name droppers. While he's at it, maybe he should tell it to Jeff Gordon, Kyle Bush and Tony Stewart. :shaking:

Stay focused here: Where can that 2wd X go that a 4x4 X can not?

My X can make it :D Props to spalind & greg for supporting
nissan. Plus leading the way for more aftermarket parts for us.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo152/xterra_309/badlands/100_1688.jpg


i'm not against nissan. i drive a nissan, for pete's sake.

the argument is about the 2WD Xterra that the OP claimed to be the most badass Xterra on the planet.

i have no doubt that your Xterra could complete the trails - and that's exactly my point. it takes a 4WD to do it, not some wannabe trophy truck 2WD Xterra with stock geometry IFS.

Just to put it out there it also depends on driver skill & not just the hardware your running. I have gone through some pretty tough stuff with my 2wd and have not just out manned some 4wd's but made them ask the question. How in the world did i do that in a 2wd.

Just to put it out there it also depends on driver skill & not just the hardware your running. I have gone through some pretty tough stuff with my 2wd and have not just out manned some 4wd's but made them ask the question. How in the world did i do that in a 2wd.

with equal drivers, the 4WD is more capable. period.

boondox, nice rig there, like it better than the yellow menace.
I'd take an sas'd rig anyday, not at all interested in blasing around prerunner style; rockcrawler or expedition setup is more useful.

Really? You guys are arguing about some really stupid stuff.

An SASed rock crawler vs a class 7S desert racer is retarded. They are both built for different terrain, and they both perform well in their own rights.

As far as most badass the desert Xterra has more R&D in it that most 2nd gens out there. I'm not saying Boondox doesn't have a sweet rig(I followed the build pretty close), but to me there is a lot more custom fabrication in the first X.

Coke vs Pepsi,
make your arguement.


Ultimately I think everyone's turned off by the OP's attitude and audacity more than anything.

Coke FTGDMFW

Really? You guys are arguing about some really stupid stuff.

An SASed rock crawler vs a class 7S desert racer is retarded. They are both built for different terrain, and they both perform well in their own rights.

As far as most badass the desert Xterra has more R&D in it that most 2nd gens out there. I'm not saying Boondox doesn't have a sweet rig(I followed the build pretty close), but to me there is a lot more custom fabrication in the first X.

:massey:

with equal drivers, the 4WD is more capable. period.

Not saying that isnt true just that 2wds are just as capable in some aspects as others. There are restrictions within what i just said though.

Not saying that isnt true just that 2wds are just as capable in some aspects as others. There are restrictions within what i just said though.

you're just saying that because you drive a 2WD. of course, a 2WD can go anywhere that the 4WD can... when the 4WD is in 2WD. :shaking:

you're just saying that because you drive a 2WD. of course, a 2WD can go anywhere that the 4WD can... when the 4WD is in 2WD. :shaking:

Thats not why im saying that :grinpimp: you just use your 4wd as an excuse :mr-t: hahaha j/k

My X can make it :D Props to spalind & greg for supporting
nissan. Plus leading the way for more aftermarket parts for us.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo152/xterra_309/badlands/100_1688.jpg

you get bumpsteer with your trackbar/draglink angles like that?

i thought you upgraded the links? rear link looks like a toothpick, or is that your ebrake cable?:flipoff2:

It will go faster and over rougher terrain than ANY 4WD Xterra, anywhere...

this statement shows you have no idea what you are talking about. :shaking:

i thought you upgraded the links? rear link looks like a toothpick, or is that your ebrake cable?:flipoff2:

it's a leaf spring.

it's a leaf spring.

d'oh. thats right... i'm a tard.:)

Yep still got leafs in the back. My steering in the
front needs to be replaced. I'm going with the ballistic
Steering Kit 7/8" with High Misalignment Spacers step
down 3/4. :p Once i do that my trackbar/draglink angles
will be fine. I don't get that much bump steer, I'm taking the
AAL out this weekend. Then dropping the front about 3in.

that yellow X sucks.

leaf springs :shaking:
all that fab and money and they couldnt even be arsed to link the rear with coilovers.
fuckwits.

2wd too. just no reason for it to be 2wd. If you really have to keep the IFS, why not utilise 4wd with the front IFS. Never hurts to have more driven wheels in any situation. I cannot think of any situations - rock, race or mud - where 4wd is inferior to 2wd.
ok, the option of limited slip centre diff to favour front or rear wheel drive may be helpful in some types of situation - but its still 4wd!!! :flipoff2:

This is what happens to the front diff when driven hard.
The Yellow X was 4WD, if i remember correctly, and some issues
with the diff failure. If u actually go to the site u can see the changes
year to year this X has gone through :p

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/44401/2237985240103697397S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/45664/2141194650103697397S600x600Q85.jpg

This is what happens to the front diff when driven hard.
The Yellow X was 4WD, if i remember correctly, and some issues
with the diff failure. If u actually go to the site u can see the changes
year to year this X has gone through :p

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/44401/2237985240103697397S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/45664/2141194650103697397S600x600Q85.jpg

Talk about needing a bandaid goodlord

that yellow X sucks.

leaf springs :shaking:
all that fab and money and they couldnt even be arsed to link the rear with coilovers.
fuckwits.

2wd too. just no reason for it to be 2wd. If you really have to keep the IFS, why not utilise 4wd with the front IFS. Never hurts to have more driven wheels in any situation. I cannot think of any situations - rock, race or mud - where 4wd is inferior to 2wd.
ok, the option of limited slip centre diff to favour front or rear wheel drive may be helpful in some types of situation - but its still 4wd!!! :flipoff2:

Front diff is junk...worse than useless...it wouldn't (and didn't) survive more than a few dozen miles at best when driven in race conditions...to call the team, its driver and fabricator a fuckwit is beyond dumb...he has more seat time under race conditions and more time behind a welder than you've probly been alive...seriously...all you 4WD SAS dopes need to spend more time tending to your mullets than trying to "edumacate" me...Again...go ask Robby Gordon, BJ Baldwin, and the rest of the TT owners why they dump $400K into a Trophy truck and still leave it 2WD...4WD is not the be all and end all...as someone stated earlier...this is a desert racer...not a rock crawler...if you don't understand the difference in applications/design then I can't help you...

I dont think the 4x4 guys quite understand the difference from a desert race car and a rock buggy. Desert courses are not all that rough and can be typically driven by any 2wd truck....albeit slowly. Adding front drive a desert car usually just adds weight and complexity that isnt needed. When running in the desert, your goal is to go as fast as possible on the course...not go crawl up boulders. There have only been a couple 4wd desert cars that were fast and they had/have probelms (Herbst TT and some of the Nye Frank cars). A lot of east coast guys have no idea that this terrain even exists, they all think it looks like Glamis.
On the other hand, most desert guys are plenty familiar with "the Rockwell Crowd" and DO understand that solid axles have there place. That being said, if all things were equal, a 4wd desert truck would be great...but the extra hassle and expense are just not justified.
I like doing both. Here is a video of one of the desert trucks I co-drive and do the shock tuning on. You can see that having 4wd would just be more crap to deal with.
YouTube - 2006 MDR Night Race - Dan Vance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDsQCWARx50)

I have never said that sand car was not fast or faster than a 4x4. But the truth is THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!! Read that again. In case you missed it: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A X 4X4 CAN!!!! One more time: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!! That means if your on a trail that makes a 90 degree turn or tighter into a ditch before climbing a 30% rocky grade, the 2wd has no chance, the 4x4 might actually make it. If your running the course for the Baja 1000, the 2wd X will finish long before the 4x4 X but if the 4x4 X is not trying to keep up, just finish the trail there is a good chance it will. Without use of a support crew and probably carrying supplies and up to 4 people. In case you forgot it: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!! If I wanted something fast I would buy a GTR or a Corvette, not a freaking 2wd Xterra :shaking:

Remember:THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!!

I have never said that sand car was not fast or faster than a 4x4. But the truth is THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!! Read that again. In case you missed it: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A X 4X4 CAN!!!! One more time: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!! That means if your on a trail that makes a 90 degree turn or tighter into a ditch before climbing a 30% rocky grade, the 2wd has no chance, the 4x4 might actually make it. If your running the course for the Baja 1000, the 2wd X will finish long before the 4x4 X but if the 4x4 X is not trying to keep up, just finish the trail there is a good chance it will. Without use of a support crew and probably carrying supplies and up to 4 people. In case you forgot it: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!! If I wanted something fast I would buy a GTR or a Corvette, not a freaking 2wd Xterra :shaking:

Remember:THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 X CAN!!!!

Where, in this thread, has ANYONE but you mentioned a sand car? Completely different than a desert race car/truck. Desert racers race on courses...not trails, not dunes. There is almost never a need to "drop'er in low/lock and git 'er up this here hill" or climb over a log or to get through the sippy hole. The courses are just not that steep or rough or boggy. They only get rough when you go really fast. As a retort to your incessant rambling "THAT A 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A 4X4 CAN!!!!" my reply is "no shit!". Nor is that Xterra ever meant to go where even a stock 4wd X can go, and it doesnt have to. As for going fast in the desert, building and Xterra is certainly not my first choice, and I dont even care for this class, but this being built to fit specific rules and is being built accordingly.
I can guarantee that a bone stock 2wd Xterra would go faster and farther than a GTR or Corvette on a US desert course from clearance issues alone. Your logic, at least for this thread, is flawed. I know your in Florida, but if you ever come out this way, I would be glad to take you out to the desert for a spin in a 2wd.

This thread was started because someone thought that this particular X was the most bad ass. I disagree due to it being a 2wd.

It was argued: It will go faster and over rougher terrain than ANY 4WD Xterra, anywhere...

So it will go faster. Whoopdeefuckingdoooo! You 2 guys keep refering to the desert. So that is one area. So you want a single type of terrain or a race course for this "overgrown station wagon" A 4x4 X is not limited to certain conditions to perform many different duties. I refered to the sand car because what can this X do that a race prepped sand can't? That uestion was never answered when I asked it earlier.

I've been asked twice if I have been out west. As a matter of fact I have. It may have only been once and that does not make me an expert, but what I did see plenty of terrain that could be done in 2wd as well as plenty that there is no way in hell! Making me repeat: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A X 4X4 CAN!!!!

As for the GTR and Corvette, you said the 2wd X would whip them in the desert. Well what about on pavement? Oh thats right we are talking about off-road here. But only high speed off-road not any of the thousands of trails around the country. So we are back to a single terrain for that thing to be able to perform. Not bad ass in my book.

This thread was started because someone thought that this particular X was the most bad ass. I disagree due to it being a 2wd.

It was argued:

So it will go faster. Whoopdeefuckingdoooo! You 2 guys keep refering to the desert. So that is one area. So you want a single type of terrain or a race course for this "overgrown station wagon" A 4x4 X is not limited to certain conditions to perform many different duties. I refered to the sand car because what can this X do that a race prepped sand can't? That uestion was never answered when I asked it earlier.

I've been asked twice if I have been out west. As a matter of fact I have. It may have only been once and that does not make me an expert, but what I did see plenty of terrain that could be done in 2wd as well as plenty that there is no way in hell! Making me repeat: THAT 2WD X CAN NOT GO EVERYWHERE A X 4X4 CAN!!!!

As for the GTR and Corvette, you said the 2wd X would whip them in the desert. Well what about on pavement? Oh thats right we are talking about off-road here. But only high speed off-road not any of the thousands of trails around the country. So we are back to a single terrain for that thing to be able to perform. Not bad ass in my book.

Godfuckin'damnit, you're fuckin' stupid. Well, butt fuck you Jesus. You're dumber than a big fuckin' bag of hammers. I bet you suck gorilla cocks and smell like camel dicks...

Don't get me wrong, that Xterra is fuckin' ugly and a piece of shit, I get sick of that tool posting it all over thenewx.org and clubfrontier.org.

It isn't ugly I dont think.:flipoff2:

Godfuckin'damnit, you're fuckin' stupid. Well, butt fuck you Jesus. You're dumber than a big fuckin' bag of hammers. I bet you suck gorilla cocks and smell like camel dicks...

Don't get me wrong, that Xterra is fuckin' ugly and a piece of shit, I get sick of that tool posting it all over thenewx.org and clubfrontier.org.


So you joined today just to say that? Why don't you tell us who you really are instead of hiding behind a fake screen name? At least have the guts to be an internet tuff guy!

Godfuckin'damnit, you're fuckin' stupid. Well, butt fuck you Jesus. You're dumber than a big fuckin' bag of hammers. I bet you suck gorilla cocks and smell like camel dicks...

Don't get me wrong, that Xterra is fuckin' ugly and a piece of shit, I get sick of that tool posting it all over thenewx.org and clubfrontier.org.

So which one of the guys from this thread are you?

Are you guys even gonna get close to 12" travel from those stock-length front arms? I have over 11" travel with the Titan arms and custom coilovers. I could get more if I ditched the inner fender though and ran glass fenders. If you guys ever race down here, we'll have to prerun together.


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m138/prgproducts/xjump2-12.jpg


my g/f wants an xterra and i wanna build it very simular to yours with lots of travel but a good highway ride.(it'll be her DD) but i can't stand the factory front fenders who sells aftermarket fiberglass flares for the xterra? i was thinking of getting a set for a frontier and swappin an entire frontier front clip on

This thread sure went downhill fast. I guess your handle is Instigator for a reason. Damn! Suprisingly there is actually some usefull information in here if you weed through all the nonsense and BS.

my g/f wants an xterra and i wanna build it very simular to yours with lots of travel but a good highway ride.(it'll be her DD) but i can't stand the factory front fenders who sells aftermarket fiberglass flares for the xterra? i was thinking of getting a set for a frontier and swappin an entire frontier front clip on
https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=180_178_523&products_id=5475

what the hell

Front diff is junk...worse than useless...it wouldn't (and didn't) survive more than a few dozen miles at best when driven in race conditions...to call the team, its driver and fabricator a fuckwit is beyond dumb...he has more seat time under race conditions and more time behind a welder than you've probly been alive...seriously...all you 4WD SAS dopes need to spend more time tending to your mullets than trying to "edumacate" me...Again...go ask Robby Gordon, BJ Baldwin, and the rest of the TT owners why they dump $400K into a Trophy truck and still leave it 2WD...4WD is not the be all and end all...as someone stated earlier...this is a desert racer...not a rock crawler...if you don't understand the difference in applications/design then I can't help you...

you still didn't address the issue of leaf spring rear and stock geometry IFS.

isnt this a 3rd gen?

you still didn't address the issue of leaf spring rear and stock geometry IFS.

Because it's a DESERT RACER!

It's made to fit withing the guidelines of it's racing class. Ask Shannon Campbell why he went IFS for the KOH car. Because it works better in the desert period. Spring under works better than spring over in the desert too. If there was a better way, and still keep the springs, I'm sure he would have done it.

Is it the most badass 2nd gen rock crawling Xterra? No, but it's not a crawler anyway so that argument is moot. I have seen this X in person at last years goneMOAB and it is badass. This was before the jump up in class.

so basically it's just a gutted 2wd xterra? dude, that is so badass.

lol.

so basically it's just a gutted 2wd xterra? dude, that is so badass.

You're an idiot.

If you really think that this is just a gutted two wheel drive Xterra I guess there is no hope for you. It seems you just joined Pirate (recently) to complain, put people down, and act like one of the cool kids. I have respect for anyone with this much fabrication put into their rig, and anyone who uses their rig.

"Never argue with a fool. They drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

At least he joined before this thread was started, not like the other chicken shi@t. So what exactly is it? It's not a sand car, not a gutted 2 wheel drive X with some tube work, than what is so special about it? I know the answer is "if you can't tell then your an ________" I'm thinking you groupies just can't come up with a good answer. :shaking:

Godfuckin'damnit, you're fuckin' stupid. Well, butt fuck you Jesus. You're dumber than a big fuckin' bag of hammers. I bet you suck gorilla cocks and smell like camel dicks...

Don't get me wrong, that Xterra is fuckin' ugly and a piece of shit, I get sick of that tool posting it all over thenewx.org and clubfrontier.org.

This thread was something fun but now is just a showcase of ignorance.

I gave good answers a few times here. It's a desert racer. A class 7s desert racer.

7S:
Vehicles built from a 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive mini or mid-sized pickup having a maximum stock wheelbase of 127''.
Aka: 7100 (BITD)Horsepower: 175-265Wheel Travel: 12 Front, 16-20 Rear Weight: 3200-4000Top Speed: 100+Cost New: $20,000-60,000Cost Per Prep: $2,000-5,000
Basic Rules:
Suspensions Components:- Front and Rear suspension must be of the same manufacturer, shape, size and configuration as the stock vehicle being used.- All suspension components except shocks and rear leaf springs will remain in original stock locations and mounting methods.- A-arms, I-beams, and front axles must remain stock length; material may be added for strength and stock mounting locations retained.- Rear springs may be lengthened to that of the longest stock production rear leaf spring as delivered by the manufacturer. (57 1/2")Engine:- Must be of the same manufacturer basic design and type with a max of 6 cylinders.- Must use the stock block and cylinder heads as delivered for highway use from the manufacturer.- Updating and predating is allowed within the vehicle chassis and body series.- Maximum displacement of 3000cc.


That is what it is. A purpose built class 7s desert racer.

how is it "purpose built" if:

Front and Rear suspension must be of the same manufacturer, shape, size and configuration as the stock vehicle being used.
All suspension components except shocks and rear leaf springs will remain in original stock locations and mounting methods.
A-arms, I-beams, and front axles must remain stock length;
Rear springs may be lengthened to that of the longest stock production rear leaf spring as delivered by the manufacturer. (57 1/2")
Engine:- Must be of the same manufacturer basic design and type with a max of 6 cylinders.
Must use the stock block and cylinder heads as delivered for highway use from the manufacturer.


so, basically it's just a gutted 2WD Xterra? dude, that is sooo badass!

You're an idiot.

If you really think that this is just a gutted two wheel drive Xterra I guess there is no hope for you. It seems you just joined Pirate (recently) to complain, put people down, and act like one of the cool kids. I have respect for anyone with this much fabrication put into their rig, and anyone who uses their rig.

"Never argue with a fool. They drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience."



so you start your post by calling me an idiot, or a fool. then you complete your post with your "never argue with a fool" quote. talk about ignorance! :shaking:

so you start your post by calling me an idiot, or a fool. then you complete your post with your "never argue with a fool" quote. talk about ignorance! :shaking:

What? I started my post calling you an idiot. Then I called you a fool trying to suck me down to your level at the end of the post.

How in the hell did you read that wrong?

What? I started my post calling you an idiot. Then I called you a fool trying to suck me down to your level at the end of the post.

How in the hell did you read that wrong?



you're cracking me up.

you called me an idiot. you're arguing with me. so that means you're arguing with an idiot. do i also need to explain the definition of hypocrisy?

Oh I see. you agree with me that you are an idiot trying to be an internet tough guy.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Oh I see. you agree with me that you are an idiot trying to be an internet tough guy.

Thanks for clearing that up.



yup, i'm the fool that dragged you down to my level, and beat you with my experience. :smokin:

now, about that badass xterra. if i have stock suspension geometry, stock travel, stock engine with stock block and stock heads, but i gutted my interior, does that also make me a purpose-built desert racer? :flipoff2:

you say you saw this xterra last year, before it was jumped up in class. so, what class is lower than this one? Showroom Stock?

http://www.sotsyndicate.com/images/smilies/ufail.gif

This thread was something fun but now is just a showcase of ignorance.


Didn't your step dad beat the fuck out of you with a crowbar??? Didn't you get banned from clubfrontier for arguing with a certain member and his girlfriend (you know, the postwhore that can't stop posting worthless shit???)

Club frontier? O.k. so we know you like sausage. Anymore clues you chicken shi@t?

Didn't your step dad beat the fuck out of you with a crowbar??? Didn't you get banned from clubfrontier for arguing with a certain member and his girlfriend (you know, the postwhore that can't stop posting worthless shit???)

You know. That shows your ignorance because i got banned for threadjacking a persons thread it was actual B-rocks thread about his bumper, not argueing with that person in question. If you didnt know she also got talked to by the moderators because she insisted on some arguements. Im not ashamed of what i said to her & him. Just how i said it. I could've been more adult but i wasnt. Its a testement to your Name that you added in the fact about my stepdad. Your something else. I'm sorry but you need a life.

Club frontier? O.k. so we know you like sausage. Anymore clues you chicken shi@t?

Well now that he has a name on here. Im more than sure the Admin can track his I.P & can use his email against him on clubfrontier.org. So its only on him that he made one seriously rude & inconsiderate remark.

Didn't your step dad beat the fuck out of you with a crowbar??? Didn't you get banned from clubfrontier for arguing with a certain member and his girlfriend (you know, the postwhore that can't stop posting worthless shit???)

real classy jackass

I'm embarrassed to even read these post now.
Wow you guys know how to really support nissan.

These guys design and test the parts on their Xterra's
(even if only 2wd) or 4x4. They're testing shocks, springs,
Superior Gears, and a huge list of other parts from differant
manufactures. So we can buy and use them later for our
vehicles.

So u should be thanking these guys instead of bitching
at them.

Go join a jeep club, if all your going to do is bitch
about how you could of built it better.
Lets see pics of your nissan and how its so much
better designed :flipoff2:



Found this quote: found it informing of what kind of people we r dealing with.
i want to use these Bilstein 7100 shocks, but they have the standard 1/2in Heim ends, and my stupid Nissan has a single-shear 5/8in stud for the lower shock mount. is it not advisable to lop off the lower shock end and weld on a 5/8in Heim joint? should i just cut off the lower shock mount from the axle and weld on a double-shear bracket so i can use a 1/2in bolt?

I'm embarrassed to even read these post now.
Wow you guys know how to really support nissan.

These guys design and test the parts on their Xterra's
(even if only 2wd) or 4x4. They're testing shocks, springs,
Superior Gears, and a huge list of other parts from differant
manufactures. So we can buy and use them later for our
vehicles.

So u should be thanking these guys instead of bitching
at them.

Go join a jeep club, if all your going to do is bitch
about how you could of built it better.
Lets see pics of your nissan and how its so much
better designed :flipoff2:



Found this quote: found it informing of what kind of people we r dealing with.



oh quit your crying you nissan fanboi. :shaking:

i'm not arguing against the build or design of the xterra, but against the people who claim it's the most badass thing on the planet. your xterra has much more custom fabrication than the yellow "purpose built desert racer" in this thread, despite you being a complete tool.

searching our posts to see what kind of people you're dealing with? i'll save you the trouble: i'm into off roading, and i like my nissan, but i'm not a custom fabricator like you; i'm not a wheeling pro like you; i'm not a douche bag like you; i'm not afraid to ask questions i don't know the answer, on a forum that does have the answers.

so grow a fucking dick, pull Nissan's dick out of your ass, and open your eyes long enough to see past the cloud of Nissandom that's blocking your objective view of how plain-Jane the yellow Xterra really is.

I F'ed up on the design listening to someone that was a racecar builder.
I need a wheeler not a track rig. So i'm ripping the front end out pics to come!
OHHH the wait. If i did it they way i'm doing now about 3 grand


hmmm... you are not all-knowing? from your posts on this forum, i'd have thought you were born of the Off-Road Gods.

So what parts did they test that are now on the market because that yellow station wagon? Nissan does not even support it vehicles that race. Just because I like Nissans does not mean I won't buy another make if fits my needs better. Go ahead and look my stuff up. I've done more with my truck with a heck of a smaller budget. Probably more than you guys who are suckig off the exhaust on that 2wd. Sure it may not look pretty, but I know it could go anywhere that 2wd X can, just not as fast. I bet I could even find places here in flat Florida that the 2wd X would need me to help it through.

I agree 4 pages of this bickering is pretty stupid. But calling that thing the most bad@$$ trumps it!

So what parts did they test that are now on the market because that yellow station wagon? Nissan does not even support it vehicles that race. Just because I like Nissans does not mean I won't buy another make if fits my needs better. Go ahead and look my stuff up. I've done more with my truck with a heck of a smaller budget. Probably more than you guys who are suckig off the exhaust on that 2wd. Sure it may not look pretty, but I know it could go anywhere that 2wd X can, just not as fast. I bet I could even find places here in flat Florida that the 2wd X would need me to help it through.

I agree 4 pages of this bickering is pretty stupid. But calling that thing the most bad@$$ trumps it!

Well DUH you could go all the places at 2WD X can go but slower...so can a f'ing snail!! But thats not the point...The point is, its a RACE TRUCK!! Its's designed to go fast...

Secondly, if you want a rock crawler or mud bogger how dumb are you for buying a Nissan?? The answer: a lot dumber than someone who buys a Nissan and uses it to race or prerun with...

oh quit your crying you nissan fanboi. :shaking:

i'm not arguing against the build or design of the xterra, but against the people who claim it's the most badass thing on the planet. your xterra has much more custom fabrication than the yellow "purpose built desert racer" in this thread, despite you being a complete tool.

searching our posts to see what kind of people you're dealing with? i'll save you the trouble: i'm into off roading, and i like my nissan, but i'm not a custom fabricator like you; i'm not a wheeling pro like you; i'm not a douche bag like you; i'm not afraid to ask questions i don't know the answer, on a forum that does have the answers.

so grow a fucking dick, pull Nissan's dick out of your ass, and open your eyes long enough to see past the cloud of Nissandom that's blocking your objective view of how plain-Jane the yellow Xterra really is.

Plain-Jane that Xterra is certainly not...Lets see...custom Superior Gears in the rear diff plus a mini spool, custom racing axles in the rear, Goodyear "yellow label" MTs all around, custom cage, fuel cell, KC HiLites HIDs that run what?? $500 a piece?, custom COBB tuning on the engine, Bilstein Blackhawk bypass shocks all around, custom National Spring leaf springs, custom drop spindles/lower arms, Beard seats, race radio and intercom system, steering quickener, custom front bumper, custom rear bumper, custom cargo bay tire carrier and on and on and on...let me know when that equates to "plain Jane". In its purest, most stock form, it traveled Las Vegas to Reno, NV in right about 24 hours, over 600 miles, all off road. I co-drove a portion of that at over 100 mph over a dry lake bed and through some unbelievably rough roads and terrain...the attrition rate for that race was well over 60% including over 50% for the $200,000+ Trophy Trucks. Again...let me know when ANYTHING you guys own/create can come within a country mile of what that truck has done...
I know Instagator will try and come back and say that his truck could do the same thing, just slower...OK smartass...the GPS track is out there, its easy to follow the same route as those races...you or anyone else is welcome to prove me wrong...

i didn't believe you, until you listed the mods. after reading "custom cargo bay tire carrier" and "steering quickener," i'm sold that it is indeed the most badass 2nd-gen Xterra on the planet!

You Assume to much when you think I wanted a rockcrawler or a mud bogger. I wanted a truck that could do a little of everything. There was nothing out there but the D22 presented a good base to start from. It's competed in Four Wheeler's Real truck Club Chalenge, driven from Fl. to Tenn., wheeled then drove home. Driven From Fl. wheeled for 4 days and then drove home again WITHOUT a trailer! So while you went from 500 miles, mione went 2200 miles in 34 hours. I know I know, you did it off road: you get a point and a star. No high dollar lights on my truck, just a set of hellas. Dual winches, custom tube work, upgraded electrical system and I too have a custome rearend. High pinion 60 with 35 spline Dutchman alloy shafts, also have alloy shafts and CTM u-joints up front. ARB's in both and regeared. Fox coil-overs and a custom bumper. All done by us hillbilly's here in Fl. It can also carry all my camping gear as well as tools and spare tires for it and a buddies jeep. Maybe the next time I head out west, I will follow the race course, Then again I would rather try trails like the Dusy Ershim or the Hammers. But if I ever do, I'l be sure to bring this thread back to life and be even more cocky than I am now. I bet you can't wait for that. :flipoff2:

You Assume to much when you think I wanted a rockcrawler or a mud bogger. I wanted a truck that could do a little of everything. There was nothing out there but the D22 presented a good base to start from. It's competed in Four Wheeler's Real truck Club Chalenge, driven from Fl. to Tenn., wheeled then drove home. Driven From Fl. wheeled for 4 days and then drove home again WITHOUT a trailer! So while you went from 500 miles, mione went 2200 miles in 34 hours. I know I know, you did it off road: you get a point and a star. No high dollar lights on my truck, just a set of hellas. Dual winches, custom tube work, upgraded electrical system and I too have a custome rearend. High pinion 60 with 35 spline Dutchman alloy shafts, also have alloy shafts and CTM u-joints up front. ARB's in both and regeared. Fox coil-overs and a custom bumper. All done by us hillbilly's here in Fl. It can also carry all my camping gear as well as tools and spare tires for it and a buddies jeep. Maybe the next time I head out west, I will follow the race course, Then again I would rather try trails like the Dusy Ershim or the Hammers. But if I ever do, I'l be sure to bring this thread back to life and be even more cocky than I am now. I bet you can't wait for that. :flipoff2:

This man has a nice ride

oh quit your crying you nissan fanboi. :shaking:

i'm not arguing against the build or design of the xterra, but against the people who claim it's the most badass thing on the planet. your xterra has much more custom fabrication than the yellow "purpose built desert racer" in this thread, despite you being a complete tool.

searching our posts to see what kind of people you're dealing with? i'll save you the trouble: i'm into off roading, and i like my nissan, but i'm not a custom fabricator like you; i'm not a wheeling pro like you; i'm not a douche bag like you; i'm not afraid to ask questions i don't know the answer, on a forum that does have the answers.

so grow a fucking dick, pull Nissan's dick out of your ass, and open your eyes long enough to see past the cloud of Nissandom that's blocking your objective view of how plain-Jane the yellow Xterra really is.

Dude really so by you wrighting this. Does this mean you are a douchebag because last time i checked. The guy you are talking to never said anything to down right demean you. Like you said you are not a wheeling pro. I've been at this since i was 16yrs old. I am now 20. I still got a longway to go. I must say dude your mouth & how you act needs a few bumps in the maturity department. Just because you can say fuck on this forum doesnt mean you have to. Use your intelligence and not your primal urge. To be a ignorant tyrant.

Secondly, if you want a rock crawler or mud bogger how dumb are you for buying a Nissan?? The answer: a lot dumber than someone who buys a Nissan and uses it to race or prerun with...

You're really burning your bridges here....Why are you posting on a rock crawling site in the Nissan section again? :confused:

I think a lot of people would show your rig a lot more respect if you didn't come off a such a douche-bag owner.

You're really burning your bridges here....Why are you posting on a rock crawling site in the Nissan section again? :confused:

I think a lot of people would show your rig a lot more respect if you didn't come off a such a douche-bag owner.

Last time I checked, Pirate wasn't a "rock crawling only" site...in fact Lance and the others have shown a ton of interest in desert racing and would more than likely agree with me than you as he knows what it takes to compete in the desert...

You're really burning your bridges here....Why are you posting on a rock crawling site in the Nissan section again? :confused:

I think a lot of people would show your rig a lot more respect if you didn't come off a such a douche-bag owner.

^^^ this guy has a nice ride...


once he finishes it!!!

^^^ this guy has a nice ride...


once he finishes it!!!

Most rigs are never finished. Just look at the rigs across this board. I thought you may have figured this out by now. Since your a member of this site.

Most rigs are never finished. Just look at the rigs across this board. I thought you may have figured this out by now. Since your a member of this site.


i meant it is literally NOT FINISHED. :shaking:

it's a D60 SAS'd late-model Pathfinder (unibody) with Atlas 4-spd, VH45 swap (Infiniti V8), on 39.5s. it has a full cage and tube front clip, but it is not rolling yet.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg121/tmorgan444/SAS/IMG_4819.jpg

That is a nice rig, good luck on the wiring though. May take longer than the actual fabercation. :smokin:

That is a nice rig, good luck on the wiring though. May take longer than the actual fabercation. :smokin:

the truck was already running with the VH45DE and 35s. he then SAS'd it and it was rolling (2WD), but now he's taking it to the next level, switching from 3-link front to triangulated 4-link.

the truck was already running with the VH45DE and 35s. he then SAS'd it and it was rolling (2WD), but now he's taking it to the next level, switching from 3-link front to triangulated 4-link.

Man thats a nice rig. I know i have a Atlas 2speed 3.8 coming my way in a couple of months due to some hook ups. For my build. Im liking what i see right there. Is that full hydro i see there. What unit is he running ???

That is a nice rig, good luck on the wiring though. May take longer than the actual fabercation. :smokin:

What he is doing is easier than my setup with a turboed VH45 Autronic ecu and CDi ignition. We ripped out all the wiring and started from scratch. Admittidly it is a race truck so pretty basic but the wiring just isn't as hard as people make out as long as you have good wiring diagrams to follow.

This thread was something fun but now is just a showcase of ignorance.

I know. But anyhow...

Those are some sweet X's. All of them. Here's my 2nd Gen:

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/33282-1/Jeep+6a.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/33279-1/Jeep+5a.jpg

I know. But anyhow...

Those are some sweet X's. All of them. Here's my 2nd Gen:

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/33282-1/Jeep+6a.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/33279-1/Jeep+5a.jpg

Yup!! Looks like the Most badass 2nd Gen XTerra on the planet has finally been put in this thread!!! Nice rig!! How about some specs and build pics? How does it act without the abs and wheels sensors?

Well DUH you could go all the places at 2WD X can go but slower...so can a f'ing snail!! But thats not the point...The point is, its a RACE TRUCK!! Its's designed to go fast...

Secondly, if you want a rock crawler or mud bogger how dumb are you for buying a Nissan?? The answer: a lot dumber than someone who buys a Nissan and uses it to race or prerun with...

What's the difference between a Nissan/Yota/Jeep/whatever? Step 1. trash axles. Step 2. Trash suspension. Step 3. Torch off all frame mounts. Step 5. Start from scratch.

Does it really matter what emblem is on the front?

Plain-Jane that Xterra is certainly not...Lets see...custom Superior Gears in the rear diff plus a mini spool, custom racing axles in the rear, Goodyear "yellow label" MTs all around, custom cage, fuel cell, KC HiLites HIDs that run what?? $500 a piece?, custom COBB tuning on the engine, Bilstein Blackhawk bypass shocks all around, custom National Spring leaf springs, custom drop spindles/lower arms, Beard seats, race radio and intercom system, steering quickener, custom front bumper, custom rear bumper, custom cargo bay tire carrier and on and on and on...let me know when that equates to "plain Jane". In its purest, most stock form, it traveled Las Vegas to Reno, NV in right about 24 hours, over 600 miles, all off road. I co-drove a portion of that at over 100 mph over a dry lake bed and through some unbelievably rough roads and terrain...the attrition rate for that race was well over 60% including over 50% for the $200,000+ Trophy Trucks. Again...let me know when ANYTHING you guys own/create can come within a country mile of what that truck has done...
I know Instagator will try and come back and say that his truck could do the same thing, just slower...OK smartass...the GPS track is out there, its easy to follow the same route as those races...you or anyone else is welcome to prove me wrong...

Nobody is discrediting the vehicle, they're discrediting all the bragging.

Custom gears? I didn't need them.
Custom Axleshafts? How about two completely custom axles?
Fuel cell? Check
Cage? Going in
seats? Corbeau
custom bumpers? check
engine? swapped with headers/injectors, and cams/tuned computer going in
custom springs? check
winch? check
Sliders? check
dual transfer cases with 4 gears and airshift? check
plus a lot more.

Does this mean I have the baddest ass hardbody around? No. It's just another modified Nissan.

Yup!! Looks like the Most badass 2nd Gen XTerra on the planet has finally been put in this thread!!! Nice rig!! How about some specs and build pics? How does it act without the abs and wheels sensors?

I think Spalind's Desert Racer is badass. I've been following that vehicle with a lot of interest. The video's of that thing on course are fantastic! It's far more sophisticated that my SAS. Boondox's rig is off the hook as well and he did it all himself! There's another 2nd Gen X that's been SAS's by the same fab shop that did mine but he's kinda dropped off the radar.

I chose the 2nd Gen X primarily for the VQ40 motor (4.0L V6 265hp/285tq) and the fully boxed frame. Great platform for a project vehicle.

Tires & Wheels
Interco Super Swamper TSL Bias-Ply 12.5" x 15" x 38"
Pro Comp Series 97 15" x 10" Steelies

Front Suspension Components
Cage Long Arms
FOX 2.5" x 10" Coil Overs Shocks
King Springs

Rear Suspension Components and Custom Fabrications
Spring Over Axle
Alcan Leaf Springs (9 - arched for 3" of lift)
Bilstein 5150 Piggybacks
All Phase Off Road custom fab T-case & Tranny skid plates

Drive Shafts
Tom Woods - Double Cardan with Golden Seal U-Joints

Steering System
Toyoda Steering Gear Box ported for hydraulic assist
PSC Hydraulic RAM

Front Axle
Dana 44 High Pinion (65" Axle donated from a 1979 Ford Bronco)
Yukon 4.56 Ring & Pinion
Yukon 30 Spline Chrome Molly Shafts
Heim's
Alloy X Joint U-joints with Lucas Red-N-Tacky Grease
Eaton Detroit Locker
Warn Premium Hubs
Crane Differential Cover
Timken Bearings
Lucas Gear Oil

Rear Axle
Ford 9" (65" Axle donated from a 1979 Ford Bronco)
Yukon 4.56 Ring & Pinion
Yukon 31 Spline Chrome Molly Shafts
Eaton Detroit Locker
Timken Bearings
Lucas Gear Oil

A couple shots of the underside during fab up:

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/28760-1/DCFC0034.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/28772-1/DCFC0022.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/28769-1/DCFC0018.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/28778-2/DCFC0008.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/31712-2/nice.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/31211-2/Goin+up.jpg

http://www.vaxc.org/gallery/d/33160-1/COVE+2.jpg

Oh, look...a whopping 2 of 10 4WD, solid axle, KOH class vehicles finished the FIRST day of this years Vegas to Reno race!! Wow...so you mean 4WD and solid axles don't survive the abuse they take in a desert race??? I never would have guessed:shaking: But I'm sure you're swamp donkey fab truck would have performed MUCH better than the world class design/fab of the guys in this years V2R that couldn't survive 200 miles let alone the 900 miles that the pathetic, 2WD, IFS, stock class Xterra did...

hahahahaha, it's no surprise that your blog has only 9 "followers."

douche bag nissan fanboi is an understatement.

I hope your ol' lady is impressed with speed of your one trick pony! :shaking: The X is nice for what it is but your still an idiot! It was built for one single purpose. How many 2wd IFS rigs have completed a XRRA event? By the way, that is Rock Racing not rock crawling so answer accordingly.

Oh, look...a whopping 2 of 10 4WD, solid axle, KOH class vehicles finished the FIRST day of this years Vegas to Reno race!! Wow...so you mean 4WD and solid axles don't survive the abuse they take in a desert race??? I never would have guessed:shaking: But I'm sure you're swamp donkey fab truck would have performed MUCH better than the world class design/fab of the guys in this years V2R that couldn't survive 200 miles let alone the 900 miles that the pathetic, 2WD, IFS, stock class Xterra did...


I'm not understanding your hostility towards the 4-wheeling community. You have to realize you're posting on pirate4X4, right? I've supported TXR in the past, but dude there's no reason to be going around talking shit to the small off-road Nissan community just because a few people dont necessarily think your Xterra is hot shit. The only opinion that I have is that Nissan really fucked up on the 2nd gen's and put in a weak drivetrain behind a powerful motor and a heavy truck. I've seen and heard of countless axle issues with them. That alone makes it a terrible candidate for class 7S.

What you have to realize is A)4-wheeling/Rock crawling is a completely different animal than pre-running/desert racing B)People are going to have a different opinion than you do and C)You're posting on a forum that mainly caters to 4X4 enthusiasts.

I'm not understanding your hostility towards the 4-wheeling community. You have to realize you're posting on pirate4X4, right? I've supported TXR in the past, but dude there's no reason to be going around talking shit to the small off-road Nissan community just because a few people dont necessarily think your Xterra is hot shit. The only opinion that I have is that Nissan really fucked up on the 2nd gen's and put in a weak drivetrain behind a powerful motor and a heavy truck. I've seen and heard of countless axle issues with them. That alone makes it a terrible candidate for class 7S.

What you have to realize is A)4-wheeling/Rock crawling is a completely different animal than pre-running/desert racing B)People are going to have a different opinion than you do and C)You're posting on a forum that mainly caters to 4X4 enthusiasts.


For the millionth time, it is not my Xterra...

and I have no problem with people thinking that the mentioned Xterra is not hot shit...the title of the post was meant to be a bit of hyperbole but that goes way over the head of most Pirate members...what I do have a problem with is when idiots such as Gator and others begin saying things about which they have no experience or insight, claiming that the mentioned Xterra is not an example of top end fab work, is nothing more than a 2WD stock POS, etc. When those things are said I do feel the need to try and correct them despite their ignorance...And what I get the biggest kick out of is that none of them have an adequate, fact based response to anything...they cannot explain why the most hardcore offroad vehicles in the world are 2WD, they do not have a come back when I point out that 4WD, solid axle vehicles have been an embarrassing disaster in this years V2R, etc....they merely fall back on name calling and ignorant statements...I may name call, but I back that up with demonstrable facts...If the associated swamp donkeys choose to ignore said facts, well...thats not my problem....

Now all you're doing is speaking off of personal bias like Gator has been doing. It all depends on what your version of "the most hardcore" offroad vehicle is. I know you like racing stuff, but Gator prefers SFA 4-wheeling stuff. And on a personal note, I recently met Gator in person a few months back. He's not the "swamp donkey" you keep refering to him as.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but no one here has said the fab work on the X was bad. They're just saying that the suspension is working off of the stock geometry.

what I do have a problem with is when idiots...begin ]saying things about which they have no experience or insight.[/COLOR] And what I get the biggest kick out of is that none of them have an adequate, fact based response to anything...they cannot explain why the most hardcore offroad vehicles in the world are 2WD

so the "fact based response" that you provide is that "the most hardcore offroad vehicles in the world are 2WD." can you get any more subjective with your "facts?"

go back to blogging and leave the open-minded discussions to us big boys.

here's the separator: a 4x4 can complete your hallowed "desert race" course. it will take a lot longer because they will be going a lot slower, but it can be done.

can a 2WD do this, at all?

YouTube - Intense On Board Footage of Adam Carter at XRRA Jellico (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGzrcnkfEqk)

now which is more hardcore again?

here's the separator: a 4x4 can complete your hallowed "desert race" course. it will take a lot longer because they will be going a lot slower, but it can be done.

can a 2WD do this, at all?

YouTube - Intense On Board Footage of Adam Carter at XRRA Jellico (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGzrcnkfEqk)

now which is more hardcore again?

Ummm...I'd put up the $300,000+ Trophy Trucks or the $750K Dakar trucks as being the highest of the high end offroad vehicles...NOT any rock crawler...

and of all ironies...I spent all day today covering a rock crawling event!! It was fun, with tons of action all over the place...just not comparable in terms of design, fab work, technology, etc. as a full blown desert race...

Where did I say the fab work was bad? When it was brought up that it was 2wd, YOUI brought up the solid axle 4x4's not anyone else. So now your saying the title of the thread was meant to be knd of a joke? Is that what you really think about that X? You keep bringing stuff up and then when it is used against you you think we brought it up. :shaking: If this thread bothers you so much start another thread with a poll.

and of all ironies...I spent all day today covering a rock crawling event!! It was fun, with tons of action all over the place...just not comparable in terms of design, fab work, technology, etc. as a full blown desert race...

Oh NO!!! You did not just say that! You better take that back! Actually, I'm fine with that. But that yellow x is still not the most bad @$$ anything on the planet! :flipoff2: It's nice for what it is, but it will not go anywhere.

By the way, you covered a 'rock crawling' event, not a 'rock RACING' event. Huge difference!!

By the way, you covered a 'rock crawling' event, not a 'rock RACING' event. Huge difference!!

Yes, thanks...I am aware...No, the title of the thread was not meant to be a joke, a bit of hyperbole (you do own a dictionary don't you?) perhaps...but it still represents the near, if not the actual peak, top end fabrication work that has been done to any Xterra anywhere. And I don't think I ever claimed that it could match a rock crawler in terms of the pure rough obstacles that it could go over. If I did, please quote me.

Ummm...I'd put up the $300,000+ Trophy Trucks or the $750K Dakar trucks as being the highest of the high end offroad vehicles...NOT any rock crawler...

i'd love to see a 2WD do Dakar. i wonder why they don't...? :shaking:

And I don't think I ever claimed that it could match a rock crawler in terms of the pure rough obstacles that it could go over. If I did, please quote me.

It will go faster and over rougher terrain than ANY 4WD Xterra, anywhere...



now, what were you saying?

Yes, thanks...I am aware...No, the title of the thread was not meant to be a joke, a bit of hyperbole (you do own a dictionary don't you?) perhaps...but it still represents the near, if not the actual peak, top end fabrication work that has been done to any Xterra anywhere. And I don't think I ever claimed that it could match a rock crawler in terms of the pure rough obstacles that it could go over. If I did, please quote me.

I agree. I believe that it's the most extreme example of a purpose build Xterra that I know of. I love that thing and enjoy watching the videos. It's truly badass!

I like my X but it really isn't much more than cutting off the IFS stuff and attaching 30 year old parts. I wouldn't categorize my rig as the most badass X but it sure does a good job on the rocks. Here's a Youtube video of a section of Potts Mountain that I ran last weekend:

YouTube - 2nd Gen Xterra at Potts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nHTKUWa_Dc)

YouTube - 2nd Gen X Potts Mountain 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53w3W9aoEE)

now, what were you saying?

I was saying exactly what I intended...you are reading the "and" as an "or" which it is not...typical female mistake of reading more into what is written than is actually there...

i'd love to see a 2WD do Dakar. i wonder why they don't...? :shaking:

Umm, again...please stick to what you know...both Robby Gordon and Jean-Louis Schlesser run 2WD vehicles in the Dakar, quite successfully...

I was saying exactly what I intended...you are reading the "and" as an "or" which it is not...typical female mistake of reading more into what is written than is actually there...

you said that you never claimed the 2WD Xterra could "never match a rock crawler in terms of pure rough obstacles," but yet you are quoted to clearly say that the yellow 2WD Xterra will go "over rougher terrain than any 4WD Xterra."

so which is it?

Umm, again...please stick to what you know...both Robby Gordon and Jean-Louis Schlesser run 2WD vehicles in the Dakar, quite successfully...

5th place finish, with significant performance allowances over 4WDs (to keep the 2WDs competitive with 4WDs), is not exactly that successful.

you said that you never claimed the 2WD Xterra could "never match a rock crawler in terms of pure rough obstacles," but yet you are quoted to clearly say that the yellow 2WD Xterra will go "over rougher terrain than any 4WD Xterra."

so which is it?

neither dimwit...read the quote again...I said that this particular Xterra would go faster AND over rougher terrain than any other X...meaning that if any other Xterra tried to go as fast over as rough terrain as this one does it would be left in pieces--which it would...as I stated...

5th place finish, with significant performance allowances over 4WDs (to keep the 2WDs competitive with 4WDs), is not exactly that successful.

Do you actually read what you type before you hit the "post" button? RG did not finish 5th...he finished 3rd, only one hour 36 minutes out with a massively underfunded/undermanned effort...Not only that but he and Schlesser have numerous stage wins under their belts over the course of numerous Dakars...

Now your just double talking! You must be a hardcore lib as well! :shaking:

Maybe you should have worded it like this: It will go faster over rougher terrain than ANY 4WD Xterra, anywhere...

Guess we are still discussing this huh :flipoff2:

Some of us are still discussing it, spalind is back=pedaling :flipoff2:

Now your just double talking! You must be a hardcore lib as well! :shaking:

Maybe you should have worded it like this: It will go faster over rougher terrain than ANY 4WD Xterra, anywhere...

Which is still only true up to the terrain that can it handle. While it was stuck doing a 2 wheel peel, there are several other x's that could cruise on by. Even if they're crawling, that's faster than stuck.

Personally, I think this whole argument is funny, and don't really think anybody is dogging the x, it's done decent. Everybody's point is that some wild claims have been made about it, which are hard, and some impossible, to back up.

Wow nice rig 8th man...keep my email for when you get the urge to sell..jefox08@yahoo.com

you guys are all wrong...

give me a xterra body and watch my truck transform from the greatest frontier on the planet to the greatest xterra on the planet. :flipoff2:

um, no.

um, suck a cock.

um, suck a cock.

<<-- still lol'ing @ "greatest frontier on the planet"

it was a joke tard.

but its arguably one of the most capable, so: :flipoff2:

you guys are all wrong...

give me a xterra body and watch my truck transform from the greatest frontier on the planet to the greatest xterra on the planet. :flipoff2:

And you guys thought my ego was huge! :flipoff2:

This thread reminds me of Highschool. This is awesome. If i had popcorn id eat some but i dont. But its still enjoyable :flipoff2:

you guys are all wrong...

give me a xterra body and watch my truck transform from the greatest frontier on the planet to the greatest xterra on the planet. :flipoff2:

for the sake of argument... this is the greatest frontier on the planet... when its done... which he starts work on it again in a week or so

http://www.noas4x4club.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2956

for the sake of argument... this is the greatest frontier on the planet... when its done... which he starts work on it again in a week or so

http://www.noas4x4club.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2956

thats an awesome build. is he going on with the original plan of running mogs?

thats an awesome build. is he going on with the original plan of running mogs?

yuppppp and some other goodies

i talked to him bout it on sat... has to finish his girls xterra then this will be on full force

Don't forget he already had one of the baddest (if not the best) Frontiers once before. Now he is about to trump that one tenfold!!!

BTW: The yellow 2wd station wagon is still not the most badass!!!:flipoff2:

BTW: The yellow 2wd station wagon is still not the most badass!!!:flipoff2:

that guy's GIRLFRIEND'S Xterra is more badass than the yellow wagon

http://www.noas4x4club.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3390&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

that guy's GIRLFRIEND'S Xterra is more badass than the yellow wagon

http://www.noas4x4club.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3390&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

most def

no doubt; rich's frontier is going to be epic.


untill then; :flipoff2:

Until then your still not number one :flipoff2:

Until then your still not number one :flipoff2:

it was a joke tard.

but its arguably one of the most capable, so: :flipoff2:
:p