Is anyone going to post any pics or scores from todays event?

Here's a picture of Dustin for you...
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A good save:

http://www.nuthinfancy.us/werock1.html

Ken Blume posted on FB that at the end of day one he was in the lead...followed then by Shannon and Derek West -a tight race.

I'm uploading the photographs to my laptop as we speak. Long f'n day today. Hope to have em on my website maybe later tonight or tomorrow morning. JJNPROD.PHOTOREFLECT.COM

ken blume posted on fb that at the end of day one he was in the lead...followed then by shannon and derek west -a tight race.

fb?

fb?

Facebook more then likely

Any word on today??

Tammy Campbell posted on FB that Shannon won.

wtf?? nobody has any info? why post on facebook instead of pirate? i cant believe that nobody has posted any info

wtf?? nobody has any info? why post on facebook instead of pirate? i cant believe that nobody has posted any info

I'm sure Arron will have scores up a little later.Takes a while to get everything compiled.

The shootout was still goin at 4pm when the rain washed out my camera

Just left, unlimited- Carl Shortridge, and Mike Fox, believe it was Campbell in mod, not sure about stock, Ftoy David Wine, Jeremy Graham

Kurt Shramovich took stock mod.

And what is up with the Werock site having all the current 2008 info?? I wanted to get some up to date info on the East points series?

Go to folder "WEROCK". I'll get more up asap:

http://www.nuthinfancy.us/videos.html

And what is up with the Werock site having all the current 2008 info?? I wanted to get some up to date info on the East points series?

It's impossible to put up standings until after the 3rd event, most teams have not paid for the series until the 3rd event. up until the 3rd event it easy enough for you do to the math as it is for us, and guess who is really running for the series points.....:flipoff2:

up until the 3rd event it easy enough for you do to the math as it is for us, and guess who is really running for the series points.....:flipoff2:

Big Rich,
Please do not mistake my enthusiasm for sarcasm. I would love to keep up to date with where the teams are on my own but there seems to be problems with the links to event scoring. Example, Web link to scores from Hannibal MO, last month http://www.we-rock.cc/scores.php?wgo=25 . I was hoping to see a final score sheet for the weekend by this point in the evening.
Regards :flipoff2:

Carl Shortridge / Mike Fox 430 -13 37 2 0 13 -2 1 3 -17 24 1
AJ Condon / Stu Wilkinson 101 1 12 2 12 12 13 17 13 10 92 2
Brian Milsap / Jeff Rowland 309 3 4 5 12 12 3 6 9 39 93 3
Alex Vaughn / Brandon Murray 115 -9 23 7 3 38 38 -4 3 10 109 4
Chicky Barton / Jeff Fuson 144c 4 12 37 10 28 5 -5 16 10 117 5
Bill Barton / Todd Fuson 22 -2 37 11 11 38 8 -1 24 8 134 6
Darren Casada / Mike Young 818 -2 34 25 4 38 14 10 29 50 202 7
Tom Campbell / Tony Merriman 711 3 39 15 37 23 12 15 13 50 207 8
Dean Benner / Jim Cochran O25 40 40 2 37 17 3 39 -8 50 220 9
Clayton Walters / Adam Bates O19 4 22 4 9 38 40 40 40 50 247 10

Shannon Campbell / Nick Campbell 5 -10 0 -1 -2 30 -1 -2 -11 -8 -5 1
Ken Blume / Kyle Bruso 192 -12 -2 1 -1 17 1 0 -2 29 31 2
Derek West / Ritchie Keller 200 -12 7 -1 1 19 10 1 -11 36 50 3
Danny Rohrer / Chad Rolfert 425 -4 -4 0 9 11 19 -2 -2 38 65 4
Ron Lind / Bruce Shallis 105 -2 10 10 1 38 11 3 4 21 96 5
Mike Thompson / Ray Steed Ward 734 0 18 -1 3 29 10 -5 9 37 100 6
Justin Lawson / Cody Keller 6 7 18 10 37 21 8 -2 10 50 159 7
Mike Cole / Justin Blair 94 -12 7 10 -1 38 39 2 38 50 171 8
Bunny Rose / Eugene Rose 812 7 17 20 1 31 10 39 38 50 213 9

Kurt Shramovich / Ron Lobb 832 7 38 -1 11 -22 -13 20 -2 38 1
Jay Hopko / Jim Smith 222 29 10 13 10 -10 -13 13 1 53 2
Ricky Artes / Scott Pitts 407 18 22 26 9 -20 -9 23 9 78 3
Duane Garretson / Jeff Spear 26 10 38 36 10 -21 -12 33 0 94 4
Jon Terhune / Dave Campbell 890 38 38 12 -2 -23 -12 36 13 100 5
Giles Verheckee / Chris Enders 421 30 11 14 8 38 1 27 0 129 6
Kelly Young / Aaron Selway 311 29 38 37 0 2 -11 37 4 136 7
Jim Widmeyer / Randy Carl 207 37 38 36 8 9 -11 32 9 158 8

David Wine / Jeremy Graham 512 19 9 2 -1 -21 -13 12 1 8 1
Marc Zaboth / Spencer Edwards 94 19 37 6 1 -19 -13 1 0 32 2
Adam Brooks / Brock Parker 48 19 11 36 1 -18 -13 13 13 62 3
Wade Sullens / Virgil Robinson 112 37 37 36 11 6 -11 36 5 157 4

I will get some of our pics up tomorrow. I have spent the last five hours that I've been home putting the finishing touches on the 2010 Rausch Creek Calendar (after a much needed shower and dinner of course) so it can go to print tomorrow.

All in all Matt and I cranked off over 2,000 shots. I did give them a quick glace and there are some real gems in there... so I will work on them after I get back from the print-shop tomorrow. No worries!

I think i speak for everyone. Big Rich and Lil Rich......and the rest of the W.E. ROCK crew put on one hell of an event this weekend. I had a blast taking photos at it. I am uploading the RAW photos right now to my computer and then to my wbsite. So you guys are more then welcome to browse/purchase/gawk, whatever you please.

Congradulations Wild Nut! Its about time!

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Here's a picture of Dustin for you...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=451021&stc=1&d=1246133696
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I raise your closeup dustin to ridgeline dustin in the wild

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I'm glad the weather held out all weekend. around lunchtime Sunday we were starting to worry.

1st Podium finish in W.E.Rock for Bottoms Up Rock Racing.
Stu and I are both very happy things came together for us in the end.
We are Very happy with this 2nd place finish.
Maxxis, Appalachian Offroad, PSC, my spotter Stu, and everyone else, thanks a TON for getting us there.

... and the Trophy is kickass too torchmate. :smokin:

Shannon is Mr. Sunday. Looks like the competition was tight.

good job nut!

Another awesome event pulled off by the team at Rausch Creek Offroad Park.

One question, though, that Big, Lil, or Dustin could answer--why was there no Stock Mod Shootout? There were enough teams to make it worthwhile and the final scores were just as tight as Pro Mod or Unlimited . I would think that if a competitor pays the pretty healthy entry fee that they should get everything coming to them. Not having a SO basically denied the top six teams, as well as their sponsors and the fans, a percentage of what they paid to run and see. Anyone have any input?

I raise your closeup dustin to ridgeline dustin in the wild

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Well, I reraise your ridgeline Dustin for an interviewing Dustin :homer:
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BTW, photos are up on my site now. jjnprod.photoreflect.com

I was there spectating and thought it was great as always. Rausch Creek has a great competition area. All the guys put on a hell of a show. First We-roc since last year. I gotta get back into this scene.

That was a freakin blast! We had so much fun this weekend, I can't tell you. Kurt and I were in the same group, he followed me on Saturday and I followed him on Sunday. We battled back and forth on Sunday when Kurt missed a cone that we hit on the last course.

Jim did an outstanding job for 2 days keeping us on track and finishing every course. My crew, Brian Moyer and Dave worked their butts off all day Saturday keeping my rig working with a leaking power steering line that wasted the pump by the end of Saturday. Zach and Brian got us back together and ready for Sunday. My wife Angela was running allll over the place both days.
AtoZ Fab has done such an amazing job on my TJ, it just plain worked. The Clayton suspension made the bonuses look silly. The Maxxis tires went where we wanted them.

The RC staff and judges are fantastic. The event went so fast I couldn't keep up..really. You guys and gals make this stuff happen.

Thanks Kurt and Ron for the Apple Pie, many laughs, and the tips while we competed.

All the competitors were just great people and easy to talk to. The courses were tight! And fun to figure out. Dustin, you do such a great job keeping the people informed.

Thank each and every one of you very much, we will be back again.

... and the Trophy is kickass too torchmate. :smokin:

Congrats!!! Glad to hear that you liked the trophy.

I was looking at the Werock scores.....

Calrocs winners from this weekend....

pro mod -80
unlimited -96

you guys need more bonus lines lol :)


Big hats off to Big Rich. This weekend Calrocs, the start of it all for the Rich's and Werock, the national show both running at the same time. And last I checked that's all that is left of crawling out West. Thanks for keeping rock crawling around for us. You ROCK !!!

There were enough teams to make it worthwhile

We set a policy, the teams know know what the policy is, 8 teams "is not enough" to reach the minimums for a stock mod shootout and second, they did not finish in time on Sunday so they missed BOTH of the qualifications for us to host a SM Shootout. We already were competing until after 4pm and used all of our assets to the max. We have had the same policy about this for a couple years now and for a very good reason.

Please, don't argue this here. If the teams want to have the policy changed, they will need to provide us with their proposal and reasoning through the proper channels and in the proper place.

I wanted to thank Josh England,Darren Cassada and his entire team for helping us fix our roof in a short amount of time. I also wanted to think Dusitn and the richs for all they do for the sport. We are looking forward to dayton.

Team Tyson #115
Unlimited

We set a policy, the teams know know what the policy is, 8 teams "is not enough" to reach the minimums for a stock mod shootout and second, they did not finish in time on Sunday so they missed BOTH of the qualifications for us to host a SM Shootout. We already were competing until after 4pm and used all of our assets to the max. We have had the same policy about this for a couple years now and for a very good reason.

Please, don't argue this here. If the teams want to have the policy changed, they will need to provide us with their proposal and reasoning through the proper channels and in the proper place.

It sucks but there needs to be a standard. I never knew there was a rule about it! If it isn"t wriitten then it needs to be! Same for all classes and not just for stock mod. Whatever. It was a great event.

Jay very well could have beatin us! Props to him. I haven"t had that much competition in a while. Brought a lot of excitement. I will miss them in Dayton!
We cant slack with them around!

Rules are rules! Glad to be back! And yes if there was a shootut we might have lost Zack!

Rules are rules! Glad to be back! And yes if there was a shootut we might have lost Zack!

Personally, Kurt, I don't think anyone "could have lost" this past weekend. More competition runs in your class would have just benefited the competitors and the spectators. With how tight it was in your class it sounded like everyone was having fun--that is what it is all about, IMO. Dustin and I have talked about it via PM and I now understand We Rocks position better and while it may not create a Utopia, it is a system they follow and there are reasons for it.

Either way, you will have good competition in the ASNs. :grinpimp:

I'm glad the weather held out all weekend. around lunchtime Sunday we were starting to worry.

1st Podium finish in W.E.Rock for Bottoms Up Rock Racing.
Stu and I are both very happy things came together for us in the end.
We are Very happy with this 2nd place finish.
Maxxis, Appalachian Offroad, PSC, my spotter Stu, and everyone else, thanks a TON for getting us there.

... and the Trophy is kickass too torchmate. :smokin:


Happy just isn't the word for it. Everyone that has helped us get here is owed a tremendous debt of gratitude. My wife is a freaking saint for the amount she has put up with. Mike for hooking us up with the RV...Sorry he couldn't be there. Thanks to all the judges and staff that came out to make this thing run smoothly.
It was really great to see all the hard work come together. The best part is that we still have room for improvement in the standings, with the buggy, and as a team. AJ did a fantastic job dodging cones. I can't wait to take another shot at the terrain at Dayton.

Oh.....and I haven't even taken my trophy off of the coffee table yet. It's kickass.

Personally, Kurt, I don't think anyone "could have lost" this past weekend. More competition runs in your class would have just benefited the competitors and the spectators. With how tight it was in your class it sounded like everyone was having fun--that is what it is all about, IMO. Dustin and I have talked about it via PM and I now understand We Rocks position better and while it may not create a Utopia, it is a system they follow and there are reasons for it.

Either way, you will have good competition in the ASNs. :grinpimp:

We all had a blast. It was awesome running again. I am looking forward to the ASN. I would love to get out and practice with Jay! He has skills. I have always been there to help others in the class! I wish I understood Werocks plans for the future!

I'm glad the weather held out all weekend. around lunchtime Sunday we were starting to worry.

1st Podium finish in W.E.Rock for Bottoms Up Rock Racing.
Stu and I are both very happy things came together for us in the end.
We are Very happy with this 2nd place finish.
Maxxis, Appalachian Offroad, PSC, my spotter Stu, and everyone else, thanks a TON for getting us there.

... and the Trophy is kickass too torchmate. :smokin:

Awesome job AJ!

Carl, I don't want to hear you bitchin about money anymore.

Adam is talking shit now about how it must be his spotting that makes the difference. We are thinking of doing Dayton, long ass drive.

We'll be down to the PA Jeep show and if we don't see you there it will be at the last RCROCS.

Clayton

It sucks but there needs to be a standard. I never knew there was a rule about it!

You seem to have a VERY selective memory Kurt. :shaking:

I just searched the rulebook and didn't see anything regarding a shootout. I remember last year they said there needs to ten or more rigs in a class in order to have a shootout yet the Pro Mods and Unlimiteds have them with less than ten on occasion.

Does anyone have any stock mod pics from the event?

I also did not know anything about a shootout, so I asked Lil' Rich. I told him that we should have a set standard. One way or another I did not care, but we needed to know. He told me, that it takes ten teams for a shootout. I left it at that, but was also wondering why we get left out. Were there ten teams in any class? I don't think so. Everyone seems to have a different anwser. Where can we get the information? Thanks for the help

Does anyone have any stock mod pics from the event?

Kelly,

Here are the pics from my wife and our team photographer. They are biased towards local teams, but I know there are some of your rig in there. Sorry I didn't get to talk to you at all, it was kind of a crazy weekend with my steering pump issues and smack talking with Kurt on Sunday :D

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Regards,

Does anyone have any stock mod pics from the event?

Yes. I am in the process of breaking down our shots by team number... give me a day or two. Have about 2,000 some to sort through, :D

I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the volunteers, competitors, and staff. We didn't finish where we wanted, but we had a great time. Rausch Creek Offroad park is an awesome place. All the people were very friendly, all the judges were very helpful, and all the competitors were really cool as well. Congratulations to Kurt, Jay and Ricky for their finishes. Hope to see you all in Dayton.

The shootout can be once again addressed in the competitor's forum, not here. There are proper channels for this kind of thing...use them.

Maybe start a different thread regarding shootouts to keep from hijacking this one but it should be here and not in the private forum. This is just as important to the spectators as it is to the competitors.

Great way to start up another firestorm. We will not work this way. There is a process, use it.

Had fun this weekend out in PA. Long drive for us but it wasn't so bad when compared to most teams. Dave(long time listener, first time spotter) did a great job helping me get threw the courses. Being our first time together, a couple miscommunications really cost us just a few crutial points. That, and at this point here
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was when I realized a kickass weekend wasn't so great anymore.

Thanks to all the judges and RC staff for a great weekend. I love the different experience of being on shotcreet even if it did bite me back. See everyone in Dayton in a month.

The shootout can be once again addressed in the competitor's forum, not here. There are proper channels for this kind of thing...use them.


I agree with you Dustin there is a process, but as a competitor I have asked for access to the competitors forum multiple times and have not even gotten a response much less an answere. How are competitors from the local series suppose to follow these discussions if competitors from the WEROCK series are not able to get access?

I also requested access, but only yesterday. I'm sure it will be granted soon.
If the shootout rules were printed, then I'm sure Big or LIL would've already given us a link. Leads me to believe they are not.

I agree with you Dustin there is a process, but as a competitor I have asked for access to the competitors forum multiple times and have not even gotten a response much less an answere. How are competitors from the local series suppose to follow these discussions if competitors from the WEROCK series are not able to get access?

From a fan's perspective, this comment from Ron really sucks considering he is the driver of the Quadratec sponsered pro mod driver. If he cannot get in the private forum, I guess it leaves the little guy in the lurch.

Ron-- I guess you have to web wheel more so people know who you are on the internet....

I think the system they have works out just fine. What they say goes they arent trying to screw anyone over. I think trying to call out big,lil, or dustin in this forum is BULL$hit. And then to try and bash Lance and the pirate crew because they might have accidently over looked you is unbelievable. Grow up and stop your crying.

Team Tyson #115

I think the system they have works out just fine. What they say goes they arent trying to screw anyone over. I think trying to call out big,lil, or dustin in this forum is BULL$hit. And then to try and bash Lance and the pirate crew because they might have accidently over looked you is unbelievable. Grow up and stop your crying.

Team Tyson #115

Who is calling who out? I saw a question from Zach (who owns a company who sponsers teams, and sponsered the second place team in the stock class), which was answered in a pissy way and told to take it private. How can some of these guys take it private if they cannot get into that forum? You probabaly do not know Ron, but I do, and I asure you that he is not calling anyone out-- he is just stating the facts, as he has every right to do.

My point, which I admit that I did not make well, is that you have one example of a driver here who has asked to become part of that private forum, and has not been let in-- so how can that realistically be the clearinghouse for all competition related information? I am not bashing Lance or Pirate-- it is not really their responsibility to control a private forum for We rock.

My point really is that WE Rock and Pirate are two seperate and different organizations. If you, or we rock or Dustin expects that a private Pirate forum is the only place to get we rock information out, that is a flawed thought process, and there should be a way to make sure that everyone gets into that forum that competes.

My point is if you dont like the way it is on here call them on the phone. They are available 24/7. Everyone on here doesnt care if you like how they do the shootout or not.

:flipoff2:I think the system they have works out just fine. What they say goes they arent trying to screw anyone over. I think trying to call out big,lil, or dustin in this forum is BULL$hit. And then to try and bash Lance and the pirate crew because they might have accidently over looked you is unbelievable. Grow up and stop your crying.

Team Tyson #115

For one thing you don't know me so you should keep your comments to youself till you have all the facts. If I knew who to talk to directly I would have. I tried to go through the proper channels and was not successful. I was not complaining but just stating a fact. I agree with Dustin this should not be discussed in a public forum. That is why werock has a round table for teams to discuss these issues.

Sorry if I may have offended anyone.:flipoff2:

well for future reference Big and lil Phone numbers are on the werock website. :grinpimp:

Team Tyson #115

which was answered in a pissy way.

Read much? That wasn't pissy, it's just that text is devoid of inflection.

He was answered with an accurate answer, short and to the point...what do you want me to do, give him a cookie and kiss his ass in an amazingly PC way??? Sorry, not going to happen.

Again, there is a process...if people want to be involved in that process, they'll make sure they get involved. We are a tiny group of people trying to host a major series. Don't like it...just try to spend one week doing what we do and you'll understand. If you're not willing to step up, then how about giving us the benefit of the doubt that we've actually done things to the best of our ability, with the limited assets we have, FAR longer than any other group, and along the way developing more competition areas than anyone else. Oh and by the way...do it all without making enough to even buy ONE new pickup or nice thing in over NINE years of hard work...

:shaking:

There is a process...it may not be perfect but it's not bad either. We work with our teams in private for a reason and Pirate is the choice of the teams if you hadn't paid attention enough over the MANY years we've been doing this to recognize that. Pirate is a clearing house of info for everyone and they had a choice to do it strictly through W.E.Rock or via Pirate or any other method they would prefer...it was unanimous. It works, don't try to make something out of this that is not even close to being a big deal.

I am so glad this thread got hi jacked from "a great event" to a piss match.

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Dustin.....Is this a good time to say hey? All your hard work very appreciated. Hope to see at the ASN. Bryan
There can we get back on track?

I am so glad this thread got hi jacked from "a great event" to a piss match.

:mad3:

I think everyone is still all jacked up on sugar from Carol's amazing cake!!! ;)

Thanks Bryan...my job is easy as all I have to do is talk about the crazy stuff everyone is doing. I'm lucky to have such a great seat in the house! :dustin:

I am so glad this thread got hi jacked from "a great event" to a piss match.

:mad3:

It was still a great event!! You finally got to a shoot out!

I had a great time at the event and I was only a photographer! Got to meet a lot of kick ass people such as Shannon and Nick Campbell and the guys that were out RC Crawlin on Saturday after the first day of the event. Since I'm really a nobody to these people I didn't think they would take the time to chat to me about things but Nick and I talked for a while on Sunday before the start of the event. Everyone was great to talk to and meet up with!

Great event!!