Anyone know if the gate is open yet?

thanks
Jeff

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/conditions/ohv/

says to call, last update 6/25 still closed

I spoke with someone who said not until Mid July. There is still snow on the back side, and it has to be completely dry.

They said possibly Saturday...

? where can you leave tow rig and trailer for Barrett ?

Once you get up there, you will pass a parking lot on the right, it doesn't look like it's ok to park there, but it is. We had to unhook our trailer from the truck and put them in two different spots.

if you get to a sign that says "no trailers beyond this point" then you've gone too far.

I called and talked to the forest service today. It was said that the trail is expected to be open in a few weeks last week in july or first week in august.

your too wide jeff

thanks for the info guys!

your too wide jeff

Dan, how do you figure I'm too wide? The buggy should fit no problem......

thanks for the info guys!



Dan, how do you figure I'm too wide? The buggy should fit no problem......

Gate posts are 82" wide, if you are wider than that, you can't get on to the trail.

Gate posts are 82" wide, if you are wider than that, you can't get on to the trail.

i know that :D

My buggy is narrow enough, that's why I'm asking Dan why he says I'm too wide.....

i know that :D

My buggy is narrow enough, that's why I'm asking Dan why he says I'm too wide.....

Maybe he's calling you fat? :laughing:

sorry, J/K :flipoff2:

i forgot you dont have krankers wheels and tires on that thing.:flipoff2:

I talked to a buddy of mine today that lives in Kyburz. He could SWEAR he saw a vehicle come down the hill with what looked like wrecked plane parts on the bed.

I wonder if the FS pulled that plane out? :confused:

lame....I hope it's still there.

Site got updated today, suppose to open this Saturday.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/conditions/ohv/

says to call, last update 6/25 still closed

it opened on the 11th anyone run it yet? I want to go next tues the 21st. and camp a few days and relax.

Take lots of pics!
Kurt- What plane? I know there are a couple of WW II crash sites up there I would like to check out. Is the one you speak of more recent?

can someone give me a little more info about B. Lake and post some pics if you have them. i just moved to Sac from portland...everytime I have come down here before I have just run the rubicon. my friends and i are wanting to do a trip for my bachelor party from 29 july to 2 Aug and would like something different than the 'con...hopefully more challenging. any pics would be great.

also, can anyone give me input on fordyce in a couple weeks. we are all on at least 37's locked 3/4 ton and up etc...could we cross the creek?

Barrett isn't any tougher than the 'con, just different, if you want something more challenging, try Fordyce (if the flows are low enough)

Here are a couple helpful links:

http://www.cal4wheel.com/hilanders/barretlake.htm

http://www.parksoffroad.com/alloldtrips/barretlake082506/barretlakesaugust06.htm

Has anyone been on the trail yet? We're heading up tomorrow night and was I wondering about trail condition this year.

Thanks.

Yes, The trail is open...I went up this last weekend.

Conditions: Dusty, dusty, and dusty.....did I mention it was dusty?

The plane wreck is still there as well. Over the years a few folks have felt compelled to bring "souvenirs" home from the site and ruin it for the rest of us but for the most part the plane is still there. Still plenty to see. And the hike to the site is very nice.

Oh yeah...bring mosquito repellent...

i should be heading up there with about 3 other rigs on the 10th of aug if anyone is intrested.:D

Fun little trail.

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Yes, The trail is open...I went up this last weekend.

Conditions: Dusty, dusty, and dusty.....did I mention it was dusty?

The plane wreck is still there as well. Over the years a few folks have felt compelled to bring "souvenirs" home from the site and ruin it for the rest of us but for the most part the plane is still there. Still plenty to see. And the hike to the site is very nice.

Oh yeah...bring mosquito repellent...


On Labor day 09' a few buddies and I had to fend off some dipshit from trying to take one of the propeller blades of the semi-intact engine. He was hitting it with a large steel bar trying to separate it from the engine. We asked him WTF he was doing and told us he wanted a souvenir for his son. We told him he wasn't leaving with it. By "we" I mean 4 200 plus pound dudes with very pissed off looks on their face and my 80 pound dog. He got the idea and walked away very swiftly.

Someday when I have kids this is definitely something I want to share with them. People taking souvenirs from this site is chicken shit.

I don't think the guy was a wheeler though, because I looked for him later in camp and couldn't find him.

what a lame, you should have taken his crowbar or whatever as a souvenir :flipoff2:

On Labor day 09' a few buddies and I had to fend off some dipshit from trying to take one of the propeller blades of the semi-intact engine. He was hitting it with a large steel bar trying to separate it from the engine. We asked him WTF he was doing and told us he wanted a souvenir for his son. We told him he wasn't leaving with it. By "we" I mean 4 200 plus pound dudes with very pissed off looks on their face and my 80 pound dog. He got the idea and walked away very swiftly.

Someday when I have kids this is definitely something I want to share with them. People taking souvenirs from this site is chicken shit.

I don't think the guy was a wheeler though, because I looked for him later in camp and couldn't find him.

The pilots kids would be proud.
This is from another thread, not my pictures but I have been to the plane crash.
Ask and you shall recieve. A group of us hiked up there last year and found the new writing. I remember reading some details about the plane, probably on this site. It was a military plane that went down in a storm....thats about the extent of what I remember

http://fourdice4x4.com/photos/albums/Barrett-Lake-Labor-Day-Run/DSCF2619.sized.jpg

http://fourdice4x4.com/photos/albums/Barrett-Lake-Labor-Day-Run/DSCF2621.sized.jpg

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I get choked up everytime I read those.

where did they write that? i havent been to the plane since '06...that is pretty tear jerking

does the barret lake trail exist because of the recovery effort in 1966?

that will make your eyes water

where did they write that? i havent been to the plane since '06...that is pretty tear jerking

On the wings.

My family and I did alot of off roading during the 80's and 90's with the Sierra Treasure Hunters based out of Sacramento, Ca. During that time frame, the Barret Lake Trail was one of my favorites. I along with my family and fellow club members had visited the site of the plane crash several times. At that time, there was no writing on any of the wreckage. I am glad to hear that some conciensous individuals were able to deter another individual from removing any of the wreckage. TREAD LIGHTLY ladies and gentlemen so that generations to come may also enjoy the sport and activities that we enjoy today.

Snakeherder on the side.

Any 2010 updates on if the trail is open? Planning on a trials MX ride up there next weekend.

And the notes to dad written on the wreckage... WOW makes me Emo (not the bad EMO) thinking of me and my kids!

No motorized vehicles until late aug. check before you go in!

pretty sure it opens friday..

It "may" open tommorrow, but Wrights Lake road is closed due to contruction, so you have to do in via Ice House road;) FYI

not the first time...

sucks though, so much nicer to take Wrights!

It's open

It "may" open tommorrow, but Wrights Lake road is closed due to contruction, so you have to do in via Ice House road;) FYI

How do you suggest going along Icehouse (since Wrights is closed) to get to the trailhead?

Sweet! The club I run with is planning on running Barrett Lake August 20th. Glad to hear its open. This will be my first time out there.

How do you suggest going along Icehouse (since Wrights is closed) to get to the trailhead?

I forget the names of the road, as its been years since I cut across, but you need to turn at IceHouse Resivior iirc, then after a couple miles it splits onto a forest service road.... check a map, thats what we did, it wasn't too bad.

I forget the names of the road, as its been years since I cut across, but you need to turn at IceHouse Resivior iirc, then after a couple miles it splits onto a forest service road.... check a map, thats what we did, it wasn't too bad.

We just got back from Barrett... Take Ice house and follow the detour signs. They will take you right there.
The trail is in great shape, a little damp in spots. The water is warm, and the mosquitos are bad.

and the mosquitos are bad.

It wouldn't be barrett without mosquitos:p

Does anyone have a confirmed width of the gate. My buddies jeep is 86" wide in the front and 82" rear. I have rear everything from the gate is 80" wide to 88"

79" or 80" depending on what tape is used.. From what I always see posted

Does anyone have a confirmed width of the gate. My buddies jeep is 86" wide in the front and 82" rear. I have rear everything from the gate is 80" wide to 88"

It won't fit. I have a full width front D60 with 40's and they barely squeezed through.

Its right around 80, give or take an inch My jeep was pushing like 78" last time and it was close. If you're pretty much the same exact width as the gate, I bet you could make it through. Just let the tires squeeze in a little bit, it's the rim that'll stop ya haha :D :D

ice house road to forest road 32, detour signs are posted up there they say... going up Thursday PM, trail head at 9am Friday if anyone wants to meet up, 4 rigs planned so far

Its right around 80, give or take an inch My jeep was pushing like 78" last time and it was close. If you're pretty much the same exact width as the gate, I bet you could make it through. Just let the tires squeeze in a little bit, it's the rim that'll stop ya haha :D :D

Haven't I seen you sheet metal hit said gate bud? Hands down my favorite trail and can't wait to return this year.

How do you suggest going along Icehouse (since Wrights is closed) to get to the trailhead?

23 miles east of Placerville on Highway 50,
11 miles north on Ice House Road (Forest Road 3),
9 miles east on Forest Road 32 (Wrights Lake Tie Road),
2 miles north on Forest Road 4 (Wrights Lake Rd).
Continue to the end past Dark Lake on the left you will see the Trail Head

Ran it this last weekend, man I love that trail. Did not take any pictures.

Is the Wrights Lake Road from hwy 50 still closed due to construction?

yes

Is the Wrights Lake Road from hwy 50 still closed due to construction?

yes...just there fri-sun

Ran it this last weekend, man I love that trail. Did not take any pictures.

i did:D

i did:D

How was the weather/bugs?

wrights road is close through oct i heard

wrights road is close through oct i heard

Yep it is. Just got back from a weekend up there. Icehouse is a better way to get ther anyways.

Just got back from there yesterday. I was a little disappointed to see a handful of very full width vehicles out there. Not sure what they did about going through the narrow gate, but they were definitley wider than it. Otherwise, it was a great weekend up there with very little traffic.

Just got back from there yesterday. I was a little disappointed to see a handful of very full width buggies out there. Not sure what they did about going through the narrow gate, but they were definitley wider than it. Otherwise, it was a great weekend up there with very little traffic.


get your facts straight before you talk shit. not one of our rigs is wider then the gate. if it was we would not be there. every time we are there someone has to make a statement like that. "how did you get in here? drive over the gate?" im so sick of fags in pos rigs talkin shit.


did you walk over and measure our rigs??????? didnt think so.

Was I talking directly about you? No. There were other rigs up there too. Chill the fuck out.

Was I talking directly about you? No. There were other rigs up there too. Chill the fuck out.

when you say buggy, thats directed at me and all those that have one. its not the "Buggies" tearing up the trail and bypassing every little fawking rock.

you want to bitch, bitch about all the new bypasses around the so called hard spots. not the "Buggies" doing that.

Just got back from there yesterday. I was a little disappointed to see a handful of very full width buggies out there. Not sure what they did about going through the narrow gate, but they were definitley wider than it. Otherwise, it was a great weekend up there with very little traffic.

Pics?

Just got back from Barrett lake, with four other club members, whom all drive buggies, and all went throught the gate. We even had a full size blazer along as a guest, and he made it through the gate.
We spend a lot of time working with the Forest Service and the powers that be in an effort to combat all the idiots out there doing their part to destroy the trails that we are trying to keep open.
And people making generic statements about "FULL width Buggies" illegally on the trail, is just the kind of press that we don't need. Unless you take out the tape measure, or witness someone violating the gate, don't assume anything. I don't know of anyone who does not have a picture phone or a camera these days. Take pics.
If someone IS out there illegally, then they indeed need to be busted.

when you say buggy, thats directed at me and all those that have one. its not the "Buggies" tearing up the trail and bypassing every little fawking rock.

you want to bitch, bitch about all the new bypasses around the so called hard spots. not the "Buggies" doing that.

Way to generalize it to ALL buggy owners asshat. He said very wide buggies, i would assume that would be directed to...the owners of very wide buggies. If your can get your shit through the gate don't be so quick to take offense...maybe he's not talking about you :homer:

Way to generalize it to ALL buggy owners asshat. He said very wide buggies, i would assume that would be directed to...the owners of very wide buggies. If your can get your shit through the gate don't be so quick to take offense...maybe he's not talking about you :homer:

He is doing the generalizing...........we were the only "Buggies" out there and because we "looked" to wide we must be. he didnt say anything about the full width full body blazer that was there, just the "Buggies". because you drive a buggy people think your out there rippin shit up and drivin over shit.

I was a little disappointed to see a handful of very full width buggies out there.

thats not a general statement huh?

very full width as compared to just a little full width? give me a break.

Our club was the only group back there that we noticed that may fill that description. Very nice weekend with not a lot of traffic. Some of our group made the run back and forth several times to shuttle in people or gear. And the reason that we are perhaps defensive about the statement, is that this is not the first time our presence there has been questioned. For the one guest that we had along with us, we even posted the widths of the posts and lock box on our web site to make sure he would fit.
Statements like the one made are not healthy for our sport when they make an accusation of wrong doing based merely on assumption.

As far as rigs up there this weekend there were only a few. Loosenuts and Four Dice. As I was with Four Dice all of our rigs fit no problem including a full size Blazer. Now maybe he was talking about the group he was with (Loosenuts)

Any rig will look wide when the chassis is only 50" or so wide. Mine is 48"

He is doing the generalizing...........we were the only "Buggies" out there and because we "looked" to wide we must be. he didnt say anything about the full width full body blazer that was there, just the "Buggies". because you drive a buggy people think your out there rippin shit up and drivin over shit.


I edited my original post. Sorry, for being so generalized.

Actually there were other buggies out there that weren’t in your group. I guess I should have been more specific.

Lets move on.

Trail was great. Good times good people. As far as the gate goes all i'm going to say is its time for a new tape measure. The blazer fits just fine. :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4967741235_32d9623da9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4967741235/)
blazergate1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4967741235/) by scottxx1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kona06/), on Flickr

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/4968348594_3fbd50021b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4968348594/)
blazergate2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4968348594/) by scottxx1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kona06/), on Flickr

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4967742517_14ee454529.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4967742517/)
Blazergate3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4967742517/) by scottxx1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kona06/), on Flickr

PS. No damage was done to the gate or blazer in the making of these photos.

Loose nuts doesnt have anyone with a buggy so i don't know what your talking about. As its probably obvious i drive the blue wj that was in the loose nuts camp. Now personally i never got within a hundred feet of any of your rigs so i cant comment, but i wondered a little bit about one of the buggies that set up camp next to us. No, no tape measure but i know my 65" front axle with 8" wide 4" backspace wheels is pretty tight, that frknt d60 with low backspacing wide beadlocks looked pretty wide.

If everyone clears the gate then theres no beef and im really glad to hear it.

Trail was great. Good times good people. As far as the gate goes all i'm going to say is its time for a new tape measure. The blazer fits just fine. :)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4967741235/" title="blazergate1 by scottxx1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4967741235_32d9623da9.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="blazergate1" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4968348594/" title="blazergate2 by scottxx1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/4968348594_3fbd50021b.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="blazergate2" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/4967742517/" title="Blazergate3 by scottxx1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4967742517_14ee454529.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Blazergate3" /></a>

Here is a better Link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kona06/)

Great weekend! Blue skies and clear nights with just a few groups camping. :smokin:

It was a great weekend to be on the trail. Even the con had low traffic for a holiday. Hopefully I can get up to barrett this year. Glad you guys had fun:beer:

Where are the picture of these buggies that cant make it throught the gate?
be great if makeing a statement you had pictures to back it up

Where are the picture of these buggies that cant make it throught the gate?
be great if makeing a statement to back it up

I doubt you will see any. It sounds like cdub350 was basing his "Not sure what they did about going through the narrow gate, but they were definitley wider than it." on nothing more than his opinion and assumptions and not fact. I was in and out of the trail a few times this weekend and I did not see any rigs that appeared too wide to fit through the gate.

I was a little disappointed to see a handful of very full width vehicles out there.

What is wrong with full width? Do you (and the forest service) think that they somehow harm the trail? :shaking:

An ill-equipped rig will likely do more damage to the trail than an overly equipped one, yet the ill-equipped ones have no restrictions.

Rigs don't tear up the trail- PEOPLE do. Its all up to the driver!

Unless or until you see somebody actually doing something wrong, I would suggest that you don't assume that they are. If they are, then educate them or report them.

Nothing at all wrong with full width. This particular trail has some tight turns though the trees and a full width would have to cut its way through, or go off trail to make it. Just trying to keep the FS people happy.

And your remark about ill equiped rigs is right on. And there are those who we are trying to teach that lesson to. It isn't the built rigs that go off trail and make their own new bypass because a section it too hard.

Have a great day - hit the trials whenever you can.

Kind of off topic, but I'll just go for it.
What do you Barrett Vets think about taking a quad up the trail?

Thanks

Personally I have no problem sharing the trail with anyone who respects where they are. The only extra concern for quads or motorcycles is that it is easier, and perhaps more of a temptation to go off trail. That in fact includes not going off trail to avoid any obstruction, whether it be rocks or a stopped vehicle. Which is my exact philosophy for 4 wheelers. It amazes me that someone drives a trail, and then chooses to go around obstacles that they feel are too difficult. There are trails out there for every and all experience levels and vehicles, pick an appropriate one, and have a great time.

Understood...and with that being said, do you think a quad can manuever through (NOT around) these obstacles?
I'm not a quad owner or rider and I'm taking my Jeep, but I have friend that wants to take his quad...so please forgive my ignorance when it comes to their capabilites.
Thanks

I have run Barrett on my quads a number of times. There are some difficult spots so be prepared to give him a hand to get over the rocks. It all depends on the quad and the rider.

Thought I'd throw this up to give a good visual of the width of the gate. My FJ is almost exactly 80"
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/bflynn1717/2nd%20Annual%20Barrett%20Lake%20Trip/Barrett2010001.jpg

possibly heading up there this weekend. Wrights lake road off of 50 still closed?

yes it is!! gotta go in of Ice house, trail is awesome!!!! have fun and watch out for the wicked rock gardens mixed with the trees

yes it is!! gotta go in of Ice house, trail is awesome!!!! have fun and watch out for the wicked rock gardens mixed with the trees

If you can get through the first obstacle, you'll be fine for the remainder. Just don't be like me and blow your spider gears in the rear diff 4 miles in....a front wheel drive XJ was not easy to get out.:grinpimp:

Or a rear Semi-Float D60 Chromo shaft...

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Or a rear Semi-Float D60 Chromo shaft...

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/BarrettLake0910/P1000136.jpg

Holy shit how did you pull that off? How far back?

This happened at the first in/last out Rock Garden. It's just over 3/4 of a mile from the trailhead.

Not my rig, it's my friend Sean's (as seen in the Disable Sports PBB show).
I spotted the rest of the way, while my brother drove my rig (it was his first time wheeling, let alone driving).
Took us about 4-5 hours to go the 3/4 of a mile.
The log made it all the way to the trailer.
We did have to re-strap it several times (straps would get eaten).

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Video on the road:
http://picasaweb.google.com/109326539590602981863/BarrettLake?feat=email#5521658028369308962

Gotta love trail ingenuity! I was afraid that i was going to have to be towed out like that, luckily the spiders blew close enough to the trailhead, that all i needed was a heavy right foot to get out.

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Holy Moley. How did he get involved?

now i know my vehicle will make it if he made it at all

Holy Moley. How did he get involved?

now i know my vehicle will make it if he made it at all

Actually that is my fiance's rig....i had to drive it through there for her. She was afraid to get any damage....oops!:D She made it 4 miles in with us. It wasn't until i blew the rear end of my XJ that we had to stop.

Surprisingly the only damage to the LC on the way in was to the rockers, on the way out we really put some dents into it! I was waiting to get the first dent so i could finally start the build up.

Actually that is my fiance's rig....i had to drive it through there for her. She was afraid to get any damage....oops!:D She made it 4 miles in with us. It wasn't until i blew the rear end of my XJ that we had to stop.

Surprisingly the only damage to the LC on the way in was to the rockers, on the way out we really put some dents into it! I was waiting to get the first dent so i could finally start the build up.

Damn Matt, I cant believe you got the LC through all that. Puttin that rig through the ringer lol. Looks like a good run. sucks about the rear diff tho, that puts a damper on things.