: Xj four link help and axle swap


SpadedXj
07-08-2009, 06:14 PM
i need help with the four link design on my 91 cherokee and any suggestions for eight lug and full width axles?

ashmanjeepXJ
07-08-2009, 07:03 PM
i need help with the four link design on my 91 cherokee and any suggestions for eight lug and full width axles?

Do some searching, when you come up with a good question ask it.

ta2oodfreak
07-08-2009, 07:31 PM
start here.

http://pirate4x4.com/tech/

Billavista knows it all.

SpadedXj
07-10-2009, 08:53 AM
well im thinkin about goin with the dana 60 front kingpin and a dana 70 rear. ihave found help with lookin for the right axles but no one is really able to anwser my questions. cause i want full width and i wanna swap my t case out for a dana 300 but everything i have read says its a passenger side output for the front and my cherokee is driver side. i jus needa know if my choices for the front and rear will match up some what close without having to chop and screw some things any suggestions?

adamusmc2002
07-10-2009, 10:03 AM
If you wanna stay driver side, you should go late 70's ford. and if you wanna save money, look for FF 14 bolt rears, got mine for $75. The money's gonna be in the 60 up front. It's possible to change urs to pass drop front axle, guys on here have done it. Just use the search, and look around. I'm in the same boat as you, just getting started. I just perused this site for a couple months, figured out what the best way to go 1 tons was, sourced my axles through Craigslist, and now I'm amassing parts. Actually just ordered everything to buildup the 14 bolt, so i'll actually be getting started as soon as that arrives. Good luck, and if you plan on staying on this site, search before you ask, and also think before you ask; some of these guys are ruthless :)

No offense, I laugh at the responses some of these newbees get bashed with, just warnin this guy before he becomes the next victim.

SpadedXj
07-10-2009, 11:01 AM
right well ill do some research and if they wanna get ruthless i have no problem with it... i grew up with people that have experience bash on people that are learning and they remember bein bashed on starting out its life. but i will look into the late 70's ford and see what i can do to keep it driver im a student at wyotech so im tryin to do it cheap and quick before winter comes ha ha

ashmanjeepXJ
07-10-2009, 11:19 AM
i wanna swap my t case out for a dana 300 but everything i have read says its a passenger side output for the front and my cherokee is driver side.

Read the first post in this forum before you post.

The D300 swap in a Cherokee is very common, We did a TOTM on it
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754931

SpadedXj
07-10-2009, 11:42 AM
thanks. startin to get stuff figured out any other suggestions?

JeepFreak21
07-10-2009, 12:14 PM
any other suggestions?
Any other questions???
Billy

SpadedXj
07-10-2009, 12:19 PM
ya what gear ratio should i run in my axles after i get the d60 front and d70 rear? and in the d300?

ashmanjeepXJ
07-10-2009, 12:20 PM
thanks. startin to get stuff figured out any other suggestions?

Because I am a spoon feeding fag.
http://pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/60_front/index.html

I moved this out of the hardcore cherokee section because you have no clue.

ashmanjeepXJ
07-10-2009, 12:24 PM
ya what gear ratio should i run in my axles after i get the d60 front and d70 rear? and in the d300?

You need to pic a tire size, then pick your gearing.:flipoff2:
What trans, Auto or manual? You need at least 4:1 in the d300 for a rock crawler, youll want more if you have a manual.

Search Crawl ratio.

SpadedXj
07-10-2009, 12:27 PM
37 but the main purpose isnt gonna require tires. and auto at the moment

ashmanjeepXJ
07-10-2009, 12:39 PM
37 but the main purpose isnt gonna require tires.
I have to ask... how its not gonna require tires? :flipoff2:

SpadedXj
07-10-2009, 12:47 PM
jus wait an see!!!! ill post pics but i gotta get threw this shit first i may be a newbie but don mean i aint got design talent and the smarts to make shit most people haven't seen before. :flipoff2:

ashmanjeepXJ
07-10-2009, 01:27 PM
I may be a newbie but don mean i aint got design talent and the smarts to make shit most people haven't seen before. :flipoff2:

Spoken like a professional.

It dosent take talent or smarts to make unusual shit, but
that would belong in the 35% forum, the trailerpark, NSFW
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737830

SpadedXj
07-10-2009, 01:42 PM
i know it dont i have a side business doin pretty unsual shit but it makes money and requires jus imagination and a welder. for bein only 18 in college cant be doin to bad.

bsdboy
07-10-2009, 02:05 PM
Should be mildly entertaining. :laughing:

TJTravis
07-10-2009, 04:34 PM
i have a side business doin pretty unsual shit but it makes money and requires jus imagination and a welder.

sounds potentially disgusting and painful

91YEEPER
07-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Spoken like a professional.

It dosent take talent or smarts to make unusual shit, but
that would belong in the 35% forum, the trailerpark, NSFW
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737830

is that a real forum area? never seen that before.

91YEEPER
07-10-2009, 05:13 PM
im tryin to do it cheap and quick before winter comes ha ha

ya what gear ratio should i run in my axles after i get the d60 front and d70 rear? and in the d300?

37 but the main purpose isnt gonna require tires. and auto at the moment

poor babies are going to be killed because of this. cheap/quick dont go together, if you havent figured out your gear ration, and final numbers yet id work on that first, and if youve never used a 4link calc you might want to play with one first.

just because you own a welder, torch, grinder, doesnt mean you "should" be fabricating. ive seen alot of guys from UTI, WYOTECH that could run a bead of superglue in a straight line. good luck to you and i hope you prove me wrong.

eflores
07-10-2009, 05:25 PM
dude your thread blows it got moved to non hardcore

GreatWhiteXJ
07-10-2009, 09:13 PM
jus wait an see!!!! ill post pics but i gotta get threw this shit first i may be a newbie but don mean i aint got design talent and the smarts to make shit most people haven't seen before. :flipoff2:

:shaking: You have no idea. To give examples looks for these build threads: Ashman, Goat, Vette, Pipehitter, Brassmunky, Okie Terry, Timmay, and others. Look carefully at there threads and PAY attention. These guys an myself are all one one tons and bigger rubber. We've done the in and outs in several diffrent unigue ways....but its HIGHLY unlikely you can pull off anything we havent seen yet...Like Ash said, you dont have a clue.

If you intend to setup something impressive, you better learn link suspensions damn fast, and be one hell of an excellent fabricator. You have much to learn and I suggest you research EVERYTHING before you even cut one piece of steel. 4-link building is not for the weak hearted. And you obviously know nothing....do more searching and less posting. Good day.

SpadedXj
07-11-2009, 08:47 AM
how bout fuck off to all you guys you don know me. and you got experience so fuck off watch actions speak louder then words:flipoff2::flipoff2:

bsdboy
07-11-2009, 08:48 AM
how bout fuck off to all you guys you don know me. and you got experience so fuck off watch actions speak louder then words:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Time for a tampon change? Lets see what you've got.

bsdboy
07-11-2009, 09:05 AM
is that a real forum area? never seen that before.

Yes, but you need a red star.

adamusmc2002
07-11-2009, 12:31 PM
I warned ya man.

91YEEPER
07-11-2009, 02:51 PM
how bout fuck off to all you guys you don know me. and you got experience so fuck off watch actions speak louder then words:flipoff2::flipoff2:

i dont think anyone here as ever heard that before, or anyone thats ever said that has had an easy time getting along in here.

who cares about roll centers and anti-squat anyways?

youre not going to have an easy time in here or get any help if you keep acting like a ass raped retard.

GreatWhiteXJ
07-11-2009, 05:36 PM
how bout fuck off to all you guys you don know me. and you got experience so fuck off watch actions speak louder then words:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Im waiting asswhipe. It's apparent you have a big mouth....better be able to back that shit up. And dont chime back in with another "Watch me" post....just do it.

If you wanna pull your cocky head outta your ass for a minute, seriously follow the advice of others. Start researching Anti-Squat, Anti-Dive, Roll Axis angles, Center of Gravity, Center axis points etc. Linking is not a joke. If you fuck it up, then you could seriously risk your life as well as others. Take off your football jersey and act like a real man, learn some shit and do it right.