: 89' Pathfinder Build need help!!!
stephen420k 07-09-2009, 10:43 AM Im building an 89 nissan pathfinder, 4wd 2 door. My goal is to use budget of 3000 dollars to buy 35" tires and wheels and make them fit. Now, i do not want to go with a Solid axle swap because i do not have all the tools and space to do that sort of work in. Im very mechanically inclined and a good fabricator, i work for a chopper/ custom harley shop, but i can not use the equipment or space on my days off to work on my custom projects since i am new there. Also im not gonna be doing hardcore wheeling or rock crawling, i just want my rig to look mean and be able to go through some mud etc, so i dont think i have a need for a SAS. But i have air tools, jacks etc and can do the work on a weekend at my folks house. I know my basic options are 3 inch lift involving aftermarket upper A-arms and cranking the torsion bars or 4 inch lift - trailmaster kit , including brackets to drop the suspension all down four inches, and using a body lift on top of that, but with that allow me to use 35X12.50 tires on 15X8 wheels, which all 4 will cost me about 1000 dollars so i got 2000 to make them fit. Also dumb question but here goes, since both kits lift in a completely differnet way can you mix the 2? Drop the suspension 4 inches and uses the aftermarket a arms and crank the beefyer aftermarket torsion bars and 3 inch lift coils in the rear? And just eliminate the body lift all together? If you guys have any other suggestions to fit the wheels and tires on the pathy let me know!
Thanks
stephen
stephen420k 07-09-2009, 06:34 PM Also since i have not gotten any replys i would like to say im new at 4wd vehicles and lift kits, im just a hotrod/ chopper builder and any help you can give would be appreciated, Honestly if any of you live in southern california, im in wilmington next city over from Long Beach CA, i would pay you to help me put this lift in, just someone to give me some pointers and let me be your assistant. I think im going with the trailmaster 4" kit and the 3" body lift, but would that fit 35X12.50 on 15X8? , and whats the pros and cons of the AC kit at 4X4parts or calmini kit , which are virtually the same with the after market upper control arms and beefyer torsion arms cranked to 3" and 3" lift springs vs. the trailmaster 4" kit? Any help is appreciated thanks! Please someone help me out ive already had 50 views and no replys, or does any one think maybe i can do a budget SAS swap to acheive around 8 inch lift and paying someone like maybe one of you to do most the fab work, i already have a used dana 44 axle out of a mid 80's Jeep Wagoneer. I also bought on ebay rancho 3" lift JEEP GRAND CHEROKE coils, I read on damagedreality.com that the regular front JGCcoils raise the pathfinder 3" so wouldnt a pair of 3" lift JGC rancho coils raise the rear 6" right?
Please, im begging for help!
stephen420k 07-18-2009, 06:59 PM ttt
E4x4Eric 07-18-2009, 07:30 PM I would help but I am in texas. you could trie http://nissantrailriders.com/forum/index.php?sid=632c5ce7006f1409383dd8249b2a344b and they might be able to guide you trhu it.
penski61 07-18-2009, 11:53 PM join up on www.nissan4wheelers.com there is alot of good info on there , im not familiar with the older pathy suspensions so i cant be alot of help
but if you already have a waggy axle you could do the SAS with leaf setup , although that would be weird to have coils in the back and leaves up front haha
mike_belben 07-19-2009, 09:11 AM you could probably fit 35s without any lift if you were willing to trim some body work and massage a few panels with the BFH
itsme1738 07-29-2009, 05:37 PM try ronin wheelers.com lots of info there....its me
stephen420k 08-01-2009, 10:29 AM im gonna try that how much do you think a sas swap would cost?
Coldsteel14 08-09-2009, 11:03 AM I've got an 87 on 35x12.50s.
It's on a Trailmaster lift on a 3" bodylift. It works pretty well offroad as far as a IFS setup goes. Trailmaster is definitely easier because it's a bolt on setup.
If you're gona SAS it.. You might want to find a ride that's worth throwing a SAS under. Don't get me wrong.. Pathys are good trucks.
My truck has no sway bars on it and in a nice sweeping turn she gets the three wheel motion goin on..
suresperance 09-05-2009, 11:04 PM https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1952 use that lift and then take a sawzall to your front and rear fenders
i had a 3" lift on my d21 and that fit 33s so as long as your willing to cut up your rig you will be set with just a 3" leaving you a grand to get new ball joints and upgrade your steering to handle the 35s.
itsme1738 09-06-2009, 07:12 AM i figure iv got 3 grand in my sas and probably another grand to complete..with out lockers.....mine...86ish waggy d 44, flat top knuckles, harsh terrian high steer arms w/spacers...waggy springs...full calmini sas kit (800.00) 34 inch front shocks (1oo.oo ea) 24 inch rubicon rear coils 150.00 adjustable rear coil buckets 65.00 rear shocks, long arm rear (on the to do list) 2 ft stainless front brake lines dom steering high steer setup and probably more....
curleyman 09-07-2009, 01:22 AM I really doubt the stock steering can take the abuse 35" tires will put it though. Sas that WD21 and be done with it. I destroyed my stock steering with 29"tires.
nissancrawler 09-07-2009, 02:28 AM you could probably fit 35s without any lift if you were willing to trim some body work and massage a few panels with the BFH
https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1952 use that lift and then take a sawzall to your front and rear fenders
i had a 3" lift on my d21 and that fit 33s so as long as your willing to cut up your rig you will be set with just a 3" leaving you a grand to get new ball joints and upgrade your steering to handle the 35s.
Both of you are wrong. First off, d21's are 1.5" higher on the frame then pathfinders so he has a 1.5" disadvantage to start with.
Second, with optimal backspacing, I could get my 32's to hit frame and cab on my d21(not fender, CAB) with a 3" lift. trim all you want, unless you cut the firewall out, it's not helping. less backspacing to clear frame, hit cab more. More backspacing to clear cab, hit frame more.
Here, 3" SL, 32's, hardly room when straight ahead:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/thdefghdfghdfgh.jpg
Steered like that it will hit both firewall and frame.
Third, there is no way in hell it will hold up to 35's if you're planning on using it.
with 32's, I killed over $1500 in front end parts in 18 months. 4-5 steering setups, 4-5cv's, 3 sets of auto hubs (went to manual and started losing the cv's), balljoints, etc.
Nissanboy 05-07-2010, 12:24 PM There is a guy on the 4x4parts.com forum that put 35's on with the 3+3 lift and lots of fender trimming. He also changed the backspacing on his rims. He did mention that he had to upgrade to a Calmini HD steering setup. I run the factory 31's right now and have trashed some tie rods on the rocks. I have a lincoln locked front end with the manual hubs and so far I haven't blown any CV's, yet! I am seriously considering the SAS myself.
nissan4wd 05-07-2010, 01:16 PM I got a 91 d21 basicly stock suspension just higher the front up and cut a little bit of the front fenders off to fit 33x12.50r15 on 15x10 rims
McClurgm 05-08-2010, 11:47 AM Im building an 89 nissan pathfinder, 4wd 2 door. My goal is to use budget of 3000 dollars to buy 35" tires and wheels and make them fit. .......... i just want my rig to look mean and be able to go through some mud etc, so i dont think i have a need for a SAS. ...... If you guys have any other suggestions to fit the wheels and tires on the pathy let me know!
Thanks
stephen
33s will fit with a 3" BL. My 87 2 door has 33s with no issues and only the Body lift. I have seen a Hardbody with the Trailmaster Kit clear 35s.
Read the first post...... "i just want my rig to look mean and be able to go through some mud etc, so i dont think i have a need for a SAS."
If he is not going to wheel it, he should be able to cear 35s with the BL and TrailMaster Kit. He will need both as the pathfiner doesnt have the body lift the hardbody's came with. Add some trimming, then upgrade the steering for sure.
I dont think an SAS is possible under $3K. I am already $3K into mine and not close to done......
boardbysled 05-08-2010, 03:45 PM Nice dead thread dug up right here:shaking:
86.5 hardbody 05-08-2010, 06:54 PM I have a 93 hardbody with a 4" trailmaster, 3" superlift, and a 3" body lift. Without the body lift, the 33x12.50 15 would rub the fender, now with the body lift, it clears no matter what. The pathy sits lower on the frame than mine, so you will need all of those lifts and need to trim to clear 35s.
sammyb33 05-17-2010, 11:31 AM I dont understand how you guys can not fit these tires on your rigs....
I have both, a 95 pathfinder, and a 95 hardbody. With a simple 3 inch lift on the pathfinder I had 33 1250s on it, with MINOR rubbing that I was able to trim away.
On the hardbody I can and do fit those same 33 1250s with NO LIFT. The tires are MTRs and are on stock lego wheels. But in some cases I do feel a bit of rubbing, mostly on the flares....
Go Figure..
86.5 hardbody 05-18-2010, 01:06 PM I dont understand how you guys can not fit these tires on your rigs....
I have both, a 95 pathfinder, and a 95 hardbody. With a simple 3 inch lift on the pathfinder I had 33 1250s on it, with MINOR rubbing that I was able to trim away.
On the hardbody I can and do fit those same 33 1250s with NO LIFT. The tires are MTRs and are on stock lego wheels. But in some cases I do feel a bit of rubbing, mostly on the flares....
Go Figure..
I would love to see you put 33s on a hardbody and them clear. If you're just talking about going straight with no suspension travel at all and T bars cranked all the way, maybe. But as soon as you take it off road it will crinkle youre fenders right into the firewall. Ask me how I know.
boardbysled 05-18-2010, 03:29 PM You could fit 40's on a stock lift/wheelbase height hardbody, but the work to make em fit is gonna be a bitch. Tub the cab, run wheelspacers and rims with lots of backspacing, and lots and lots of trimming.
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