Time for an update...

I should let you all know that we now make 7 different housings from the Toyota 8" to the Nissan Patrol. We make the housings for both the Solid 14, the Sixty9/Seventy9, & the Torq Super 14 thirds. We round it off with a housing for Toyota Landcruisers! We have also been asked to build 200 Land Rover housings for the Israeli Military, it is not final yet but if we do we will make Rover housings available also.

Our prices start at $525 and go up to $740 and are based solely on welding time. Its much more fair than basing price on demand like other companies do. These are the New Industry Standard!

I am also bring this up to refute a claim made by a new player in the Housing market stating theirs was the strongest one made. I will not say it is ours although ours is substantially stronger, to claim to be the strongest would be very expensive to prove.

All I will say is that 3" X .375" tube is substantially weaker than the 3.5" X .375" DOM we use in our housings!

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This is it! The Ford 9" Axle Housing. This axle housing is a touch different than you are used to seeing from housing fabricators, this housing is not quite round! To put it simply, if it was round it would be weaker. The housing has 14 different facets to the basic diamond shape resulting from 36 individual bends! The end result is an axle housing that is the smallest shape possible and strongest shape too, AND there are no abrupt edges to hang up on passing rocks.

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We make the Ford 9" Axle Housings to have 1/8" clearance of the ring gear because Ford made all ratio R&P's exactly 9" in diamerer. 3.08 ratios are 9" & 7.20's are still 9". Another beneficial thing to keep in mind when deciding on which axles you want to use is the NASCAR influence. NASCAR has been driving down the price of 9" axle parts for 50 years!

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They are available in 1 length (68") and you can cut them if you need shorter. They will come in 1 tube diameter and thickness but you can try and convince me that 3 1/2" x 3/8" wall DOM isn't strong enough. The Body of the housing is 1/4" A50 plate and the faceplate is 3/8 for better stud retention. They are internally reinforced with 6 seperate reinforcements that all tie together to make it way strong. You will also have the option of front or rear and left or right drop. We stock these so you won't have to wait either!

And they aren't that heavy either!

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Most of our welders don't dress this way but when Loren wanted to wear the leather apron how could I say no?

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Actually, for a hot 19 year old model I think she really liked the housing:D

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These are $640 picked up and sane delivery prices in the lower 48. I think we can hold this price for a few months if steel dosen't do what it did last summer....We are just finishing up the truss options and I will add them later. The Toyota 8" is having a minor change done and then it will also be done! We will also make these for the Super 14 as Portal Tek makes them available.....:D

We are making great progress on the FF hubs and spindles. They should be ready in 2-3 weeks. The Spindles are 4140 both HT & Cryo'ed and large enough for 40 spline axles, you can still run any spline count you want but why make them for less? The hubs and drive slugs are also nearly done and use the strongest bearing we could find but somehow it isn't really very expensive....This combo should take a big chunk off what the big guys are charging and I would run them head to head with theirs any day of the week!

Subscribed. I might have to come take a look at these. The housings are ready to go?

We are making great progress on the FF hubs and spindles. They should be ready in 2-3 weeks.

That's what I like to hear! Can't wait for my play-money account to fill back up, it's a little low at the moment:(

So you said Toyota 8"..... Im listening. Whats the deal on those bad boys? Do we need to supply the balls? Widths?

Thanks Andrew

So you said Toyota 8"..... Im listening. Whats the deal on those bad boys? Do we need to supply the balls? Widths?

Thanks Andrew

If you want to stick with the birfields you would have to add the balls. We are looking for a company that can make them for a reasonable price.

Are you going to be selling them with d60 c's installed anytime in the near future?

Are you going to be selling them with d60 c's installed anytime in the near future?


But we could deliver them to a couple of great local axle builders for free to complete them. I use Trevor or Beau at WFO Concepts or Sean at River City Differential....We are about 10 miles from either in the new location....

Where is the new location? Is it cool to come by and check out the housings? Are you guys going to be at the rock race at praire tomorrow?

Where is the new location? Is it cool to come by and check out the housings? Are you guys going to be at the rock race at praire tomorrow?

Give me a call and I will give you directions...

But no races for us tommorrow :shaking: Still winding up the move, the main shop is empty but now we have 6 rigs to move and all the bulk storage that was in the second building, its going to be a long weekend....:(

Definitely subscribed, I need a new housing and something to stick my 35 spline strange housing into! Will the full float option be available for 5 on 5.5?

Dan, I hope I can get a hold of you for a few minutes today! If not I understand with still moving into the new shop and all. Both the housing and the model are :smokin: I can't wait to see what options you have in store for the housings! Keep up the great work!

Definitely subscribed, I need a new housing and something to stick my 35 spline strange housing into! Will the full float option be available for 5 on 5.5?

Yes, the 5 on 5.5", and the Toyota 6 & the 8 lug fullsize patterns.

Dan, I hope I can get a hold of you for a few minutes today! If not I understand with still moving into the new shop and all. Both the housing and the model are :smokin: I can't wait to see what options you have in store for the housings! Keep up the great work!

I will be here answering the phone and directing the move as much as I can til late afternoon so call away!

By the move!

Now we have the rest of the day to pick up the pieces and put it all back together....

The housing looks great Dan! I remember talking to you on the phone about this about 2 years ago. I'm gonna drop a link to this on our local board.

Will the full floater version have the snouts already on or will it be up to the builder? Will shipping be cheaper if I buy a front and rear at the same time? Approx cost on floater hubs?

The housing looks great Dan! I remember talking to you on the phone about this about 2 years ago. I'm gonna drop a link to this on our local board.

Thanks, how does it look to you? Like I described 2 years ago?

Will the full floater version have the snouts already on or will it be up to the builder? Will shipping be cheaper if I buy a front and rear at the same time? Approx cost on floater hubs?

Depending on the length you wanted we could add them for you for a reasonable fee (Not robbery). It would likely be much cheaper to ship without them.

We are shooting for $900-1100 for the Hubs, Spindles, & Bearing combos and they are 47 spline capable! However, they won't be ready for a few weeks.

What housing?

What housing?


the housing this add is all about?

Because its the one you want!

Now that is badass sir you caught me at a perfect time the 44 is whooped and I have a 9" third member I want to use. Any plans on a toy front axle housing maybe even a fj60???

Now that is badass sir you caught me at a perfect time the 44 is whooped and I have a 9" third member I want to use. Any plans on a toy front axle housing maybe even a fj60???

The FJ60 is the second in line....The Toyota 8" possibly as soon as this Friday!

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If only there were more chics like this in the world!:eek:

Nice housing by the way......no, not the model!

Will a toy-elocker be a option when you finish the toy 8"?

Will a toy-elocker be a option when you finish the toy 8"?Those maybe too hard to find to make money selling axles for them but Dan can answer that better than me.

Will a toy-elocker be a option when you finish the toy 8"?

Those maybe too hard to find to make money selling axles for them but Dan can answer that better than me.

I have been considering it but the Toyota Elocker is one of the few Toyota made products I really don't like. They just seem to break too easily. If the demand is high we will make them, the faceplate and hole pattern is just a bit different.

I have been considering it but the Toyota Elocker is one of the few Toyota made products I really don't like. They just seem to break too easily. If the demand is high we will make them, the faceplate and hole pattern is just a bit different.

Dont do it!!! Concentrate on making strong, quality products better- Toyota makes insane products, the E-locker is not one of them and most people know that.

Dont do it!!! Concentrate on making strong, quality products better- Toyota makes insane products, the E-locker is not one of them and most people know that.

Thats pretty much my opinion. Nice when some agrees though!

Nice product!!:smokin:

I will pm you on a toyota front housing.. I don't seem to see all the elocker breaks though?

Nice product!!:smokin:

I will pm you on a toyota front housing.. I don't seem to see all the elocker breaks though?

X2! regardless, I am defiantly interested in a toyota front.

thats pretty much my opinion. Nice when some agrees though!

x2

who would be a good company to get a longer "short" side 30 spline toyota shaft from?

x2

who would be a good company to get a longer "short" side 30 spline toyota shaft from?


I have had Summers Brothers make me longer front shafts for the axles I have made wider.. I have a part number on file for a 6 inch longer 4340 shortside shaft with them, Also Brian with Front Range can have them made

We should have the Toys tommorrow, Monday, or Tuesday.....

Kind of off topic, but anway.... any plans for 9" disk brake kit? Be nice to have something out there that's made for our application instead of putting together something from some other application and making it work...

Kind of off topic, but anway.... any plans for 9" disk brake kit? Be nice to have something out there that's made for our application instead of putting together something from some other application and making it work...


Right now we already have one that fits as a weld on.....

PM sent...

Wow that's a nice looking housing. I can't wait to see what the complete floater kit goes for. The stuff from the go-fast crowd is just way too overpriced.

Hey Dan, get that model some bolt-ons! :)

Dusty

Wow that's a nice looking housing. I can't wait to see what the complete floater kit goes for. The stuff from the go-fast crowd is just way too overpriced.

Hey Dan, get that model some bolt-ons! :)

Dusty

She was pretty hot in person.....

We are almost done with the floaters now, final testing in the race this weekend in Fallon.....

good looking 9"

are you able to build these with toy flanges on the ends and a front application with knuckle balls? ie i can just bolt my existing axle guts and steering on and drive away..

ttt?

ttt?

We have not yet created the flanges. I am still waiting for bids for the front Birfield bells but for the rear we are going to finish the Full Floater Hubs and Spindle combo first.....

We have not yet created the flanges. I am still waiting for bids for the front Birfield bells but for the rear we are going to finish the Full Floater Hubs and Spindle combo first.....

what if i cut mine off and sent them to you?? knuckle balls and rear flange section..you could machine them down and weld them on in a jig?? i dont have the ability to do that otherwise id just buy your housings plain...

She was pretty hot in person.....

She's hot in the photos too! There's alway room for more boobage...


We are almost done with the floaters now, final testing in the race this weekend in Fallon.....

Will your floater spindles require a custom hub or will they be made to use a stock-type D60 or 14B hub and bearings? That would seriously improve the affordability for most of us!

Nice! I'm in man.

Thanks Dan

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Will your floater spindles require a custom hub or will they be made to use a stock-type D60 or 14B hub and bearings? That would seriously improve the affordability for most of us!

They will probly be front toyota hubs to keep everything the same i would think.

what if i cut mine off and sent them to you?? knuckle balls and rear flange section..you could machine them down and weld them on in a jig?? i dont have the ability to do that otherwise id just buy your housings plain...

Right now we are now prepared to add the bells, as soon as I can get some made for a fair price we will make the jig. The alignment jig for the bells wouldn't be near as easy as for the FF spindles.....

She's hot in the photos too! There's alway room for more boobage...

Will your floater spindles require a custom hub or will they be made to use a stock-type D60 or 14B hub and bearings? That would seriously improve the affordability for most of us!

Hey Dusty, I'm adhere to the champange glass theory.....

On your other question.....thats really a good idea, the spindles we are building now are for up to 47 spline axles & our hubs but a 14 bolt or Sterling would be very simple and still be able to go up to 40 spline axles.....!

They will probly be front toyota hubs to keep everything the same i would think.

No decision yet on those.....The housing itself is the hard part.

Looking to get one Toyota front. let me know when they are ready. Could you PM me a price on one with knuckle balls installed, Thanks

Looking to get one Toyota front. let me know when they are ready. Could you PM me a price on one with knuckle balls installed, Thanks


I cannot find the bells for a fair price and I would never attempt used, I have 3 different machinists' working on bids to make them.....

9 Out the door today!

We had to build 2 more jigs to weld them up they are selling so fast! thanks Guys...:D

Looks real Nice!!

What do you have for a provision for inner axle seals (if someone was looking to make a front axle for example...)

Thanks!

What do you have for a provision for inner axle seals (if someone was looking to make a front axle for example...)

Thanks!


But in a good way, you have reminded me I need to call someone and see why they aren't here yet...They are the simple wiper seal type, 2 inner wipers and 3 outer....

They were ready Friday afternoon but they didn't tell me til 4pm, we will pick them up in the morning! Pics after we put it on!

mondays always turn out to be too busy to get any real work done! All day we just ship the weekends orders.....:D

Pics in a couple of hours, they turned out great!

Here is the truss we have been working on!

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It really is pretty simple but where other guys stop we go on and add those last 2 bends on top for more strength and rigidity! They are folded to end up exactly the same thickness as the axle diameter, 3.5". The 4 bends that make the crown are the ticket for you.....:D

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These are only for our housings so far but we will be releasing one for the factory 9" and Toyotas also.....

Here is the truss we have been working on!

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It really is pretty simple but where other guys stop we go on and add those last 2 bends on top for more strength and rigidity! They are folded to end up exactly the same thickness as the axle diameter, 3.5". The 4 bends that make the crown are the ticket for you.....:D

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These are only for our housings so far but we will be releasing one for the factory 9" and Toyotas also.....

thas purty sessay:smokin:

How wide is that truss?

Nice work Dan. If you keep this kind of stuff up, we might have to build some super 14's for KOH.:D

How wide is that truss?

It is 62" but we made it that way so you could run it long and trim it to fit your application....

Nice work Dan. If you keep this kind of stuff up, we might have to build some super 14's for KOH.:D

Sounds good to me....

Got to keep up with the demand:D

These are cheaper than Spidertrax and much cooler.

Cheaper, no. We spend all the time making them as perfect as possible and internally reinforce these to a huge degree.

But I think they look cooler also :smokin:

But in a good way, you have reminded me I need to call someone and see why they aren't here yet...They are the simple wiper seal type, 2 inner wipers and 3 outer....

any chance you have any shots of these? :smokin:

price of housing shipped to 26764

any chance you have any shots of these? :smokin:

Not yet, still waiting on a bearing house for the non FF seals....


price of housing shipped to 26764

$650delivered in the lower 48....

The Truss closeup

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The truss head on

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The Axle & Truss under the truck prentending its ready to go!

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What is the width of the center section?

Can you install the fill plug on the bottom for a mog nine?

How much more for the truss?

Very nice housing btw

What is the width of the center section?

Can you install the fill plug on the bottom for a mog nine?

How much more for the truss?

Very nice housing btw

The center section is 21 1/4" wide overall...

Yes, just call in the order...

$130...

Thanks :smokin:

Any updates on the floater spindles?

Any updates on the floater spindles?

This afternoon or tommorrow.....The hubs will still be another week.

Hey Dan.

Can I just order a back brace for my axle that you already sent me.. The housing width is 55.5" with the pinion offset 1" to the right..

Hey Dan.

Can I just order a back brace for my axle that you already sent me.. The housing width is 55.5" with the pinion offset 1" to the right..

You would just trim the excess and use the original end as the pattern....

This afternoon or tommorrow.....The hubs will still be another week.

Updates? Pics? Super interested in the spindles that work with 14 bolt SRW hubs.

Updates? Pics? Super interested in the spindles that work with 14 bolt SRW hubs.

For our hubs first, out of order....I will have pics tommorrow, we should get the Sterling & 14 Bolt Monday....These are 4140 Heat Treated & Cryo Treated, all of ours will be.....

The can is for your reference. These are capable of taking up to 47 spline axles :eek: The hubs for them will be another week but spindles using 14 bolt hubs should be available Monday or Tuesday...:D

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These are both Heat Treated & Cryo Treated 4340 for the ultimate in strength! We should have the bearings & races in Monday, they are much stronger than what you are used to....

The can is for your reference. These are capable of taking up to 47 spline axles :eek: The hubs for them will be another week but spindles using 14 bolt hubs should be available Monday or Tuesday...:D

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These are both Heat Treated & Cryo Treated 4340 for the ultimate in strength! We should have the bearings & races in Monday, they are much stronger than what you are used to....


I think I saw these yesterday sitting in someone else's shop:D

We should have the Toys tommorrow, Monday, or Tuesday.....

Dan,

Any pictures of the Toyota housing yet?

Did you get moved in?

Thanks,
God Bless,
David B.

Dan,

Any pictures of the Toyota housing yet?

Did you get moved in?

Thanks,
God Bless,
David B.

Housing before production was finished, I hope to see them Monday afternoon...They look just like the 9" but they are slightly smaller.

I did get a couple of good quotes for the Knuckle Balls though and we have began production of 2 models of them, you can just guess what I mean by that....:D

I have had Summers Brothers make me longer front shafts for the axles I have made wider.. I have a part number on file for a 6 inch longer 4340 shortside shaft with them, Also Brian with Front Range can have them made


F'ing Hellow! How long do you want it? Anything up to about 12 Ft is doable. 27 or 30 spline.

F'ing Hellow! How long do you want it? Anything up to about 12 Ft is doable. 27 or 30 spline.

Awesome to know Dean.. I may be getting with you soon.. My buddy is going to be needing something soon..

And thanks again.. Installed allready:D

Spindles look nice, but how do they differ from all the other gn snouts out there?

I am waiting for your 14 bolt spindles, those are an industry first so far as I know. It will be really nice to be able to put 14 bolt hubs on a junkyard 60 without having to butcher a 14 bolt housing.

Spindles look nice, but how do they differ from all the other gn snouts out there?

I am waiting for your 14 bolt spindles, those are an industry first so far as I know. It will be really nice to be able to put 14 bolt hubs on a junkyard 60 without having to butcher a 14 bolt housing.


First off, notice the Coke can and then look at a 14 bolt hub....These can fit up to a 47 Spline axle! A 14 bolt is limited to 35 splines....I don't think many will be used for that big on an axle but 40's are easy...and the strength is huge by comparrison, remember with tube of any kind that diameter increases strength geometricly.

I believe we should see the 14 bolt spindles by the middle of the week but I won't know til we're done. They will be more in the realm of standard 14 bolt spindles, perhaps 18-22% stronger than stock but 14 bolt spindles are by no means weak in a stock condition.....AND capable of being used with your stock hubs & bearings!

First off, notice the Coke can and then look at a 14 bolt hub....These can fit up to a 47 Spline axle! A 14 bolt is limited to 35 splines....I don't think many will be used for that big on an axle but 40's are easy...and the strength is huge by comparrison, remember with tube of any kind that diameter increases strength geometricly.

I believe we should see the 14 bolt spindles by the middle of the week but I won't know til we're done. They will be more in the realm of standard 14 bolt spindles, perhaps 18-22% stronger than stock but 14 bolt spindles are by no means weak in a stock condition.....AND capable of being used with your stock hubs & bearings!

I hear you on the strength of the spindles in your pic. Are they 2 1/2" at the spindle nut?

I hear you on the strength of the spindles in your pic. Are they 2 1/2" at the spindle nut?

They are....

Updates? Pics? Super interested in the spindles that work with 14 bolt SRW hubs.

they won't be available til Tuesday or Wenesday so the quantity is still zero and no pic but they are approximately the same as the spindles shown in this thread but about 20% smaller.....

Link Brackets last night, pics tommorrow.....

These are even stronger than our 3/8" tabs but are entirely a torsion box design and completely wrap around the axle. They are both simple and complex at the same time if you aren't twisted enough yet by the description!

Should have the first 14 bolt parts by midweek and hopefully the first hubs by the end of the week, just in time for the Cantina! See them there :D

Of the new link brackets!

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These are a different approach to a well known problem. The problem is how do you make a bracket that is both light and very strong but it takes up very little room on the axle? Our approach in the past has always been build it out of a big heavy chunk of steel but as a racer you are always concerned about weight and on any axle you are cramped for available space so it has to be relatively small too. Another thing we like to keep in mind is cost so we are making these pre-welded or in a Weld It Yourself version (WIY).

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These are 4 plates per side with a connection bracket that tie the flats into a torsion box design and add a .188 wall tube as a guide & reinforcement for the link bolt. The resulting torsion box style construction is much stronger than the individual pieces combined. Another important feature is the way these wrap completely around the axle tube eliminating the potential for warp that is so common when putting so much concetrated heat on only 1 side of the axle tube.

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We will bring a set up for the Cantina for the Con this weekend so you all can check them out in person....Hopefully a set of hubs too:D

I have been searching the internet for anything that might explain how much HP is lost from spinning an axle through an untrue tube? I haven't found anything yet but I am still looking. I am simply thinking about the drag created by putting an axle shaft into the spider gears that are a shave off. That is the big reason we took so long developing these housings, we wanted them and everything about them to make and keep the housing true.....Think about that for awhile, if the housing isn't true how much HP do you waste?

not enough to keep us waiting:flipoff2:

JK!:p

Lookin good, what if you wanted triangulated link mounts?

not enough to keep us waiting:flipoff2:

JK!:p

Lookin good, what if you wanted triangulated link mounts?

But only til the first batch is done, after that we will just keep them in stock, they won't be made to order like some places do....

We are now working on a 10 degree variation....

Should be here late this afternoon! Pics as soon as I get them!

These updates are torturous...

Hubs? Where are they? hubs,

Hubs;




















HUBS!

We are taking off for the Rubicon right now and have to pick them up on the way from the machinist....If you are at the Cantina for the 'Con you can see them otherwise I won't have pics til Sunday night of Monday morning.....

The cantina was a fantastic event! And we even gave away another of these! We finished the Toyota 8" housing and were able to bring it, we got the Marlin seal of approval on it and even John Robertson from TG said he wanted one for his buggy! Pics of the housing tommorrow!

Of the Hubs & 8" Toyota Housing this afternoon! Got to catch up from the weekends orders first....

Any more info on the hubs?

Not done but they don't look like a big chunk of aluminum anymore!

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When you are in a hurry everything slows you down.....They are nearly done, tommorrow should do it :D

2 different Axle Shops wanting to change over and sell our axle housings built....they both saw them somewhere and checked them for alignment....one of them I met at the Rubicon last week and the other I have only heard of. Changes in progress! :smokin:

You are teasing us! let us see the final product piece!!! PLEASE

they just aren't done yet.....Perhaps I should not have told you they were coming so you could be mad at me when we came out with the right combo for half of the other guy....:shaking:

I m just ready to start the new buggy for werock 2010, I am just sitting here waiting to fly home from Agfganastain. I am just ready to get back in the shop!

Hey Dan, Great new products you're putting out. PM me the directions to the new shop so I can drop by and say hello.

Hey Dan, Great new products you're putting out. PM me the directions to the new shop so I can drop by and say hello.


I will be in the shop this afternoon around 2pm if you want to stop by...

Sorry cant make it by for about a week, See ya soon, bump for ya....

A bit more along.....

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We are still making changes for the better so it may be a week still before they are done but progress is being made....

I see 5 lug. Dose that mean a 6 lug too?

i see 5 lug. Dose that mean a 6 lug too?

5, 6, & 8....

A bit more along.....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_ffhubsnot%20yet%20done.jpg

We are still making changes for the better so it may be a week still before they are done but progress is being made....

Sweet blingy goodness. Much impressivo.

I wonder, can you make a bolt-on version of those spindles to match a GM 60 spindle bolt pattern? Would be interesting to see how the scrub radius would work out but damn, that would make a for a beefy steering setup.

I see 5 lug. Dose that mean a 6 lug too?

It does mean 6 & 8 lug also but the first batch will be 5 x 5.5", the 6.5" pattern requires a larger blank to start with....

Sweet blingy goodness. Much impressivo.

I wonder, can you make a bolt-on version of those spindles to match a GM 60 spindle bolt pattern? Would be interesting to see how the scrub radius would work out but damn, that would make a for a beefy steering setup.

Right now those are down the road but we do intend to make a matching front spindle using the same sizes for interchangeability...

Dan will you be making a 9" front axle?

What is your projected cost for a roller?

Dan will you be making a 9" front axle?

What is your projected cost for a roller?

At this point we are certainly making a front setup housing but we have to make alot of other axle stuff before we concentrate on knuckles & C's. So, for the time being there are many good builders of those parts, we can make a complete axle but the prices are not yet set in stone.

For the complete front ends out so far we have simply turned them over to Trevor at WFO Concepts. Trevor has been building 609's and other composite axles for years and can get them done for a very fair price. For questions on how you might complete one of ours give Trevor a call at 530.268.9494

Pm sent

The question he asked was availability.

The demand for these has been huge, 49 of the 9" sold in 10 weeks! We are running 7-8 days behind on these right now so ordered today should mean shipped next Monday or Tuesday....

waiting on 2 small pieces....A laser cut spindle washer & the rotor flange plate for the rotors....

Have you got a ballpark price yet for the floater setup?

Just ordered my housing tonight. Cant wait to get this thing

Have you got a ballpark price yet for the floater setup?

I had promised we would have these in the $7-850 range complete, however, these have cost us much more than anticipated. But I am going to honor my previous price estimate for the first 2 weeks of production no matter how many sets we sell but the price will go up after that $3-400 higher. The initial batch will be 5 on 5.5" and 6 on 5.5", the second batch will be 8 lug (they require starting with a larger billet of 7075) and in that 2 weeks you could order any size....

Just ordered my housing tonight. Cant wait to get this thing

We are catching up on them, we should be only down 5-6 days right now, we started using 3 different jigs at a time to improve the weld times. Each welded section has to cool before you begin the next section or you lock in stresses and warp, there has to be an expansion and contraction cycle. 3 jigs can keep 1 guy going but we may try 4 at a time also. Yes this increases cost but I see it all as a sunk cost (tooling) coming out of overhead and not the individual project. We have to sell 4 housings to break even on the cost of each jig but I see a long future in them!

We are catching up on them, we should be only down 5-6 days right now, we started using 3 different jigs at a time to improve the weld times. Each welded section has to cool before you begin the next section or you lock in stresses and warp, there has to be an expansion and contraction cycle. 3 jigs can keep 1 guy going but we may try 4 at a time also. yes this increases cost but I see it all as a sunk cost (tooling) coming out of overhead and not the individual project. We have to sell 4 housings to break even on the cost of each jig but I see a long future in them![/QUOTE]

Sounds good. So it will ship out mid next week? Im glad your telling me up front. Alot better then some of other companies that say they have it in stock and when I call them after not receiving it in 2 weeks they said they were not in stock :shaking: 5 to 7 days wait is little for a :smokin: housing. Thanks again

"Sounds good. So it will ship out mid next week? Im glad your telling me up front. Alot better then some of other companies that say they have it in stock and when I call them after not receiving it in 2 weeks they said they were not in stock :shaking: 5 to 7 days wait is little for a :smokin: housing. Thanks again"


However they are selling faster than we can make them....!

The 14 bolt Spindles will finish heat treating Monday, they are exact replicas with 1 small improvment over stock but ~40% stronger....

The Big Hub/Spindle/Bearing combo (capable of up to 47 spline axles) should be completed Monday also. I won't go completely into their make-up til we show them off but they are a Monster BA setup that a trophy truck would be happy to have but you can actually afford :D

The Toyota Birfield Bells are still 2-3 weeks out because the fixture is a serious PITA to make (but still doable) and we can't move ahead til its done but we are making a part that hasn't been made for 25+ years and improving it 5 ways in the process. You will be able to jump with these with no fear of breakage :eek:

We are also making another Toyota specific part that will be in demand but a couple of other projects are first in line....This part has never been made before....

Just an update, the wait is still around 5-6 days because we sold a bunch of these this week...

When can we expect prices and pics of the Big Hub/Spindle/Bearing combos? Also did you figure out the whole portal tek deal? Did you get the third for mock up and are they going to honor a warranty in your housing? I think it will be BS if they dont.

Thanks for your time and you are producing some hellatious products.

When can we expect prices and pics of the Big Hub/Spindle/Bearing combos? Also did you figure out the whole portal tek deal? Did you get the third for mock up and are they going to honor a warranty in your housing? I think it will be BS if they dont.

Thanks for your time and you are producing some hellatious products.

What a PITA! But they are almost there....Finally.

I promised I would price these from $700 -850 But they have cost way more to make than expected. So, I will keep my promise for the first 2 weeks of sales and they will be $850 initially. After the first 2 weeks they will go up in price to $1150 a set.

Don't let this scare you with the thought of high prices, these are complete. Included are the 7075 Hubs themselves with the choice of 5 on 5.5", 6 on 5.5", or 8 on 6.5".

And the spindles, which are not limited to simply 35 spline shafts, why swim in the kiddie pool? The Spindles will accept up to 47 spline shafts although I expect most to use 40 spline shafts with a 9" center or 35 spline if they use the Portal Tek 14. The spindles are 4140 and are both Heat Treated and Cryo treated after for the ultimate strength.

Also included are the bearings and Seals and we don't skimp on the bearings with those 2" or 2.25" bearings. These come with 2.5" inner and outer Timken bearings and thats neccessary in my eyes as I believe the outers may take even more stress than the inners. The bearings will also be Cryo treated.

The Drive Flange integration will NOT be of an interlocking design. That has been tried 20 years ago and proved problematic in several ways. Primarily sealing but also simply getting them apart after extended use. Overall, I see no reason to repeat the mistakes of the past.

All in all I designed these to be a single purchase that you would not have to upgrade down the road if you decided to go bigger on the shafts, we didn't need a better 14 bolt hub, we needed a better hub that would allow you to grow and work perfectly fine on a 14 bolt axle! We also make a much stronger than stock 14 bolt spindle if you want to use your existing hubs but these will work on any axle and all you need to do is buy a replacement spindle if moving up, not another Hub Set....After all, it costs' nearly the same to make these as it would to make the smaller 35 spline only stuff :D

Any updates?

Will you be able to run stock 14 bolt axles on the new hubs?

Either way - put me down for the big spindles/hubs with 6 on 5.5 and 40 spline drive plates...

But not always what we want today....The drive flanges are supposed to be completed today, late but not the same as never!

The stock 14 bolt axles will not fit. These are made for any axle where you need monster strength, not just a 14 bolt but they will go on many 14 bolt's....These are capable of 40+ splines, why stop at 35 splines, seems like a waste of time to me?

Pics at 11!

I got my housing today. FASSSST shipping. This housing is :smokin: Pictures do not do any justice. Thanks alot for the sweet housing

Its always nice to hear :) And no we don't grind our welds :D

They look way to good to grind down

They look way to good to grind down

I will show Garett & AJ, they like compliments :D

We have been making these for not quite 3 months and have already sold 92 of these! A little better than 1 a day, thats tremendous for a new product like these :D

Ordered one today from my friend B-Rad.

Aparently Dan think Port Orchard is full of old people. :flipoff2:

Ordered one today from my friend B-Rad.

Aparently Dan think Port Orchard is full of old people. :flipoff2:

Last time I was there it seemed like it :D Kind of like Sun City or Sedona AZ, kind of smelled like Geritol & Ben Gay.....Kidding :p My girlfriend is a teacher and takes the summer off and always spends a month up there with friends, I have always been too busy to go....

Any more info on the sterling spindles and will they fit the newer superduty hubs? Also what is the end dimension going to be?(size where you would weld to the housing)

Crossing fingers that a 9.5" cruiser diff center is still going to be added to the line up. :)

Any more info on the sterling spindles and will they fit the newer superduty hubs? Also what is the end dimension going to be?(size where you would weld to the housing)

Good talking to you Steve...

Crossing fingers that a 9.5" cruiser diff center is still going to be added to the line up. :)

They will but it will be a couple of months still...Too much else coming out at the same time.

On the hubs we are working on we had a major part not work as designed and we are remaking that part, they will be a bit longer....7-10 days :(

Picked up XJ_Ranger's housing last week. Got the "grand tour". Hubs look BADASS!!!! Im sure they wont dissapoint anyone.
Thanks again Dan.

Picked up XJ_Ranger's housing last week. Got the "grand tour". Hubs look BADASS!!!! Im sure they wont dissapoint anyone.
Thanks again Dan.


Nice to finally meet you!

Any thoughts on 4 link brackets for these?:D

Any thoughts on 4 link brackets for these?:D


We are developing a full line of Modular link brackets for these, the first batch are done and already about 20 sets in use.

Here are a group of pics and a link to the site...
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/images/mod%20link%20complete%20on%20axle%203.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_mod%20link%20half%20n%20half.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_mod%20link%20complete%20side%201.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/modular-brackets-p-393.html


The theory behind these is pretty direct. When you fight like hell to keep the tubes straight for a precisely centered axle why would you want to spoil it by heating one side of the tube and pulling the housing tube that direction? Thats right, you don't! These are welded 360 degrees around the tube spreading the heat stress completely around the tube so it simply expands and contract rather than expanding one side and then pulling the tube that way as it cools. In the mean time it creates a compact torsion box that is very rigid and attached very snugly to the tubes. I have seen many variations of this idea but nobody completes the circle, we do. Our weld on brake brackets for these are also done this way, fully wrap around.


If you look at our Trusses you can see that they weld not on the surface of the tube but on the sides, 180 degrees away from each other to do the same thing.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_1st%20axle%20wtruss%20under%202.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_1st%20axle%20wtruss%20closeup%201.jpg

I've got to admit that I can't even begin to calculate the math to figure out the Real HP Lost from a non-true housing but if you can lose 10% from the drag caused from an AC belt turning the pump how much HP do you lose from the axle splines not engaging the spider gears dead on and the axle being flexed before you even start turning the wheels. Think on that one :p :shaking: ....

But, back to your question. The lowers are available right now in a zero degree model and by the end of the week you should see the 10 degree lowers. I have the upper on my screen right now as a single for a wishbone setup and will begin the upper 4 link 25 degree brackets after....

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I havent read anything about weight. How much does a housing weigh?

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I havent read anything about weight. How much does a housing weigh?

They are weiging in at about 82lbs. That is with 3/8' wall tubes and 68" long. 68" is overly long for most people but we like to make them long enough....

A stock 9" housing is about 59lbs but you cannot compare strength :D

Thanks!

Thanks!


Thanks for asking...:D

Way too many of you have been asking so here are a few....

Here is the side view of the upper wishbone link bracket and part of the upper truss, the 4 link brackets will be next but the wishbone was in greater demand so it had to come first. You can see the modular construction of the 3rd link bracket in the pic. They are simular to another manufacturers but we took them 1 step further by folding up the main body from 1 piece of steel.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_close%20up%20back%20w%20logo.jpg

Here is it headon and fully boxed....And a pretty new logo that will be SS
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_rear%20axle%20w%20logo.jpg

And here is a rearview of the axle with both trusses, 3rd link, & lower Modular Link brackets...
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_axle%20housing%20rear.jpg

And what you have been waiting for....Ta Da!
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub%201%20front%20side%20view.jpg


The upper Truss is in production and so are the Wishbone brackets, they should be about a week til completion, the hubs are another matter. They should be done and I have a whole bunch here but a glaring internal misstake was made and the hub bodies are being remade this week so not done yet...The Rotor Flange is set to take the very common 8 on 7" hatless rotor internal pattern so you can use just about any rotor or make your own.


BTW, the reason I don't do teaser pics is that so many companies do and have never made the part and they use your money to develop the part after you pay for them....Kind of lame to me, bordering on dishonest.

i really think you need to send me one of these so i can see how well it will work in Ky......damn i need a sponsor:D

i really think you need to send me one of these so i can see how well it will work in Ky......damn i need a sponsor:D

I think that altitude likely needs some testing...:D

Dan,

Please clairify the material thicknesses and type of steel used in the center section of the new rearend housings. I am giving so serious consideration to doing these with some mega's 9's this winter.

Dan,

Please clairify the material thicknesses and type of steel used in the center section of the new rearend housings. I am giving so serious consideration to doing these with some mega's 9's this winter.

The center section is 1/4" A536 plate there are internal reinforcements that are thinner but the entire exterior is 1/4", tubes are 3/8" thick and 3.5' diameter....

The trusses are different, the rear truss is made to make the axle more rigid and it does that through its shape so it is only 12 Guage thick (1/10"), the upper is a link attachment point so it is thicker at 3/16".

The Modular Link Brackets are a Torsion Box construction and make a very strong structure, they are 1/8" thick in the pieces and have an internally reinforced structure.

BTW, there are more complete descriptions on our website....

you ship to Oz :)

be very interested in a front 609 and rear combo :smokin:

you ship to Oz :)

be very interested in a front 609 and rear combo :smokin:

But unless you have a freight forwarder you will not like the cost....

Hey Dan, Thanks again for the deal on the spring pads and the pinion guard yesterday!! It was great to meet you in person, get the tour and drool over housings and full floater hubs... Really, REALLY COOL STUFF!!! We WILL be back for more!!

Jeff & Justin NorCal Bronco Dummies!!!

Stop by anytime. And that goes for anyone in the area, we are open 6 days a week til 7pm so feel free to stop by and see whats new....

PM sent for front and rear complete; any discounts for both at the same time?
Thanks

PM sent for front and rear complete; any discounts for both at the same time?
Thanks

Way too many choices...:D

We finished these 3 weeks ago but with the Christmas rush we have simply not had the time to install one and get some pics taken but here you go. This is the axle with both high and low trusses and the modular links installed.

Enjoy!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_close%20up%20back%20w%20logo.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_wishbone%20modular%20bracket%20mounted%20si deview.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_rear%20axle%20w%20logo.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_wishbone%20bracket%20headon%201.jpg

And head on...!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_complete%20housing%20w%20brackets%201.jpght tp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_complete%20wishbone%20bracket%201.jpg

We have been slammed with these with now over 190 out there, the wait is ~9 days as of today...

Check this out, I told you we've been busy!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=859429

Love it....how much for the housing, spindles, hubs, etc. for a 40 spliner offset diff.? Also wondering if you make some strong semi float ends?

Wow, ruffstuff is my hero.

Thank Jason Ratcliff from JRAT Offroad!

do you guys have any idea how much weight savings might be had (if any) over a regular dana 60 axle housing?

G-

do you guys have any idea how much weight savings might be had (if any) over a regular dana 60 axle housing?

G-

Would be in the realm of 80-100lbs, I do not yet have the steel third. Jason was machining them today, I have the plug made to test the mold and it is aluminum but the thirds he is working on today are 8620 steel....

thx!!
G-

Have pics of the new housing this afternoon, about 3 hours....thanks

Bump for the seksy housings!Have pics of the new housing this afternoon, about 3 hours....thanksJust the centers so far, this evening and over the weekend we will be setting up 5 of these with tubes!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six98.JPG

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six92.JPG

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six91.JPG

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six93.JPG

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six95.JPG

These were 5 days from start to finish! Its really nice having another designer on staff to take some of the load off but this is pretty much Garetts design from start to finish so credit where credit is due! Stop by and see Garett and myself at the vendors show at KOH, the first 500 visitors get a Ruffstuff Tshirt Garett had to leave a couple of times today so only 1 is finished completely, he will be in tommorrow to finish the rest....


And most of you should know by now that I am not exactly a computer/electronics friendly kind of guy. Hell, I cannot even turn on my FAX machine! It took me a couple of hours to figure out this new camera but I couldn't do the Youtube alone so we will do that part tommorrow, watch for it... it should be interesting!

But here are some pics with the tubes on....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six901.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six902.jpg

And with the truebar in place, thats what the video is all about. In the last pic I pulled the puck out of the tube so you could see how true these are, Garett is saying they are a joy to weld but I measured the weldment for the cost basis and there is about 26' of weld in these! Almost 10' more than the 9" and double the Toyota 8".....But watch for the video tommorrow and you will see what a true axle housing is like I'm still looking for a study to prove it but if you lose 10% of your power running the AC, how much do you lose when the axle shaft dosen't engage the spiders dead on?

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six904.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six905.jpg


And the others awaiting tubes...

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_six907.jpg

Please excuse the messy shop, we have been slammed with business and these rushed in on top of the rest...

You want sexy, how about sexy and Straight?

YouTube - sixty9 truebar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmJwNdXy9f4)

You want sexy, how about sexy and Straight?

YouTube - sixty9 truebar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmJwNdXy9f4)
Time to refresh on hew to really build an axle!

so when's the FF setup going to be ready
tony

Ordered my 9" housing Friday, can't wait for it to get here!

Hurry, Hurry, Hurry!

I had promised we would have these in the $7-850 range complete, however, these have cost us much more than anticipated. But I am going to honor my previous price estimate for the first 2 weeks of production no matter how many sets we sell but the price will go up after that $3-400 higher.

Is this still on the table? Put me down for a set of 6x5.5", 40 spline'rs.

Thx!

How much for the 9 in housing (rear) with your 14 bolt spindles welded on? I am very interested in doing this. I believe that the dana 70's and 14 bolts have the same spindles and hubs... So I could build a 35 spline diff using 14bolt/dana 70 hubs with stock 70 shafts. Thanks in advance. Looking forward to building this.

so when's the FF setup going to be ready
tony

Very soon, about 3 weeks. They were complete 5 months ago except for an unfortunate error....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_ffhubs%20not%20done%20yet%202.jpg

I say unfortunate but in the end very fortunate. After they were ruined we took some time in redesigning them into what we are making today, a stronger, more user friendly and serviceable hub.

Ordered my 9" housing Friday, can't wait for it to get here!

Hurry, Hurry, Hurry!

Thanks!

Is this still on the table? Put me down for a set of 6x5.5", 40 spline'rs.

Thx!

The first batch will have 18 pair of the 6 on 5.5" and 24 pair of the 40 spline, I know, I will explain further. The pieces we make are interchangable. With that ability we can infill stock as necessary for an economical cost to us while keeping stock levels high to meet demand. We will initially have enough materials to build 60 pair of hubs but many more drive and wheel flanges than we need. The initial cost was very high as you can imagine and all this while I was spending buckets of money on the new heims so it took longer than expected but we still are debt free!

What we are doing here is making a Modular Hub System to kill many birds with one stone, so to speak. We have the Hub Bodies and the Rotor flanges here in stock. The wheel flanges and end caps are being anodized today and tommorrow. We have the seals, bearings, races & studs in stock. We have had the spindles in stock since the first batch, in fact those and the bearings & seals are all we are reusing from the first attempt.

Here are a few cad pictures of the most important parts so you can actually see the idea and make sense of it.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub1~0.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub4~0.jpg

And from the other side...

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub2~0.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub3~0.jpg
Instead of wasting our time making an expensive copy of a 14 bolt hub we took it 1 step further and made a more servicable, stronger hub capable of both 35 or 40 spline axles. The spindles are 4140, both heat & cryo treated, the hubs are 7075 cryo treated, and the drive flanges are 4340 both heat & cryo treated.

These will be complete from spindles to studs for whichever wheel pattern or spline count you want. I cannot hold the $1250 price I intended and we are set to $1325 but I will honor the $850 price for the first 5 orders. And no, I will not take preorders, I see that as unethical to use your money to help me pay for your product's manufacturing cost, I will announce the release here and it will be a first come, first served proposition. I will also give away an axle with these hubs and our housing if Pirate allows me when they are ready.

How much for the 9 in housing (rear) with your 14 bolt spindles welded on? I am very interested in doing this. I believe that the dana 70's and 14 bolts have the same spindles and hubs... So I could build a 35 spline diff using 14bolt/dana 70 hubs with stock 70 shafts. Thanks in advance. Looking forward to building this.

That would be $750 welded and usually around $45-55 to ship. It is a great way to utilize strong, useful parts like 14 bolt hubs. Makes for a very economical conversion to a straight, strong, lite, & weldable axle. Lots of people overlook how much weight they add when they truss a 60 or 14 bolt. A weldable axle minimizes that weight.

Damn........................



That is some nice looking bling. How am I supposed to get any work done if I am looking at this thread all day every day so I can try and get one of the first 5 orders:shaking:.

You are really taking things to the next level for all of us do it your selfers.

Thanks.

Damn........................



That is some nice looking bling. How am I supposed to get any work done if I am looking at this thread all day every day so I can try and get one of the first 5 orders:shaking:.

You are really taking things to the next level for all of us do it your selfers.

Thanks.
Don't worry, you've got a few weeks still...

I got a few calls on these hubs today...Yes, they are cool for a very fair price, not much more than stock parts...

The first batch will have 18 pair of the 6 on 5.5" and 24 pair of the 40 spline, I know, I will explain further. The pieces we make are interchangable. With that ability we can infill stock as necessary for an economical cost to us while keeping stock levels high to meet demand. We will initially have enough materials to build 60 pair of hubs but many more drive and wheel flanges than we need. The initial cost was very high as you can imagine and all this while I was spending buckets of money on the new heims so it took longer than expected but we still are debt free!

What we are doing here is making a Modular Hub System to kill many birds with one stone, so to speak. We have the Hub Bodies and the Rotor flanges here in stock. The wheel flanges and end caps are being anodized today and tommorrow. We have the seals, bearings, races & studs in stock. We have had the spindles in stock since the first batch, in fact those and the bearings & seals are all we are reusing from the first attempt.

Here are a few cad pictures of the most important parts so you can actually see the idea and make sense of it.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub1~0.jpg http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub4~0.jpg

And from the other side...

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub2~0.jpg http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub3~0.jpg
Instead of wasting our time making an expensive copy of a 14 bolt hub we took it 1 step further and made a more servicable, stronger hub capable of both 35 or 40 spline axles. The spindles are 4140, both heat & cryo treated, the hubs are 7075 cryo treated, and the drive flanges are 4340 both heat & cryo treated.

These will be complete from spindles to studs for whichever wheel pattern or spline count you want. I cannot hold the $1250 price I intended and we are set to $1325 but I will honor the $850 price for the first 5 orders. And no, I will not take preorders, I see that as unethical to use your money to help me pay for your product's manufacturing cost, I will announce the release here and it will be a first come, first served proposition. I will also give away an axle with these hubs and our housing if Pirate allows me when they are ready.



That would be $750 welded and usually around $45-55 to ship. It is a great way to utilize strong, useful parts like 14 bolt hubs. Makes for a very economical conversion to a straight, strong, lite, & weldable axle. Lots of people overlook how much weight they add when they truss a 60 or 14 bolt. A weldable axle minimizes that weight.



Here you go, Progress!

Before they left for a bath at the anodizer's...These are the 5 on 5.5", all the wheel flanges have at least 8 - 3/8" Grade 12 bolts holding them on in addition to the Wavy splines....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_5%200n%2055%20wheel%20adapter.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_5%20on%2055%20wheel%20adapter%202.jpg

And how about additional Axle housing armor, pretty!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Axle%20housing%20armor%20003.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Axle%20housing%20armor%20005.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Axle%20housing%20armor%20008.jpg

i think i just got off:eek:

i think i just got off:eek:
Now thats funny!

Looking good mister.:smokin:

Thank you Bobby! I take that as a great compliment...!

Bump for you Dan! Kick some ass! This stuff rocks!

Damn Dan did it again! Reminds of when grandma would bake a fresh apple pie and set it on the window sill to cool! It just gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside. Could you explain the wavy technology? Are you referring to the hubs or shafts?
Bobby

Damn Dan did it again! Reminds of when grandma would bake a fresh apple pie and set it on the window sill to cool! It just gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside. Could you explain the wavy technology? Are you referring to the hubs or shafts?
Bobby
Not warm apple pie as in American Pie I hope!

But about the Wavy Splines. The are all about the creating of a Modular Hub System. They are used in many different fields to securely attach dissimular pieces together or drive gears or things like the impellor in a blower. We use them to save a very large amount of time spent machining and the cost difference of a 8.5" round and a 6.5" round of 7075 Aluminum which is a huge savings in cost itself. We can make the hubs the same and interchange the Wheel Flanges at will.

They are inexpensive to manufacture and as strong as other methods of attachment. In this case they are used as the primary connector from the Hub Body to the Wheel Flange to the Drive Flanges. Each are otherwise connected but this is the primary method.

Another small point not too obvious here are the 6 holes on the Drive Flanges. 3 are for attachment (countrbored & Hub Tapped) and the other 3 are for removal (tapped). If you have ever used something that has had Aluminum and Steel held next together in close tollerance for any length of time know you are not going to be able to pry them apart with a screwdriver (and why tear them up trying?). The 3 tapped holes allow you to press them off with the 3 bolts.

As I said, I am actually quite happy we had ruined the first batch and redesigned them into this rendition. We have been able to do much more for much less! These are Trophy Truck quality on a Rock Crawlers budget...

Bump for you Dan! Kick some ass! This stuff rocks!
Give me a call Doug, we have something for you!

More progress, these are the front hubs for the desert guys, really the same thing less the drive flanges for 2WD....The drive flanges are finally headig my way.... then we have front and rear....2 or 4WD!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Hub02.jpg

When you add up the cost for these remember that you are getting everything from spindles to lugnuts, they really are pretty inexpensive!

What's the distance from WMS to the back edge where the seal would go. Like from end of housing Tube to WMS??? Thanks.

A touch more than average at 4 3/4", that pic makes them look very tall. They are a bit deeper than most because we try and space the bearings out from each other a bit more so it is less of a point load on the spindle. The wheel flange and the hub body are both 7075 and Cryo treated so they can take the punishment you can dish out, the spindle is 4140 & both Heat and Cryo treated also.



With the average 3.75" backspacing wheel the rotational load is directly over the gap between the bearings, more or less depending on the wheel. We did try and take everything into account as we designed these. The one pictured is also a front 2WD hub that has no drive flange so it looks offset compared to the rear with the drive flanges.

I am charging the camera! Get ready...

So, you want 40 splines?

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub%20spindles%20026.jpg

And you want your hubs to be the strongest possible?

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub%20spindles%20011.jpg

Do wavy splines make sense to you now?

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub%20spindles%20025.jpg

looks awesome nice work

any word on 9.5 cruiser axles yet?

how much for a complete front end minus 3rd? 35 spline 9"

looks awesome nice work

any word on 9.5 cruiser axles yet?

The Cruiser housings were due yesterday from the bender, this is the first production run, not a prototype!

how much for a complete front end minus 3rd? 35 spline 9"

There are a few variables to consider, like what you want done to your axle (trusses, armor, tabbed, ect...) but anywhere from $1850 - $2650 before axles and 3rd...:)

The Cruiser housings were due yesterday from the bender, this is the first production run, not a prototype!



There are a few variables to consider, like what you want done to your axle (trusses, armor, tabbed, ect...) but anywhere from $1850 - $2650 before axles and 3rd...:)

I just tried calling you, straight to voicemail. when is a good time to chat?

Right now, I am working? I just checked both phones and no missed calls? Do you have the correct number?

Thanks for the big rush on orders for these! Over 25 in the last week, the welders are working overtime again!

Hey Dan, Could you let me know what the cost of this axle would be set up ready to drop in minus the third for front passenger side drop and with your bling hubs, brakes and set up for 63" WMS no other armor or tabs.

Give me a call, I have much to ask you about it.

Very Nice Dan! :smokin:

WOW!
Those are so nice.
JM

Thanks Guys!

Locking good Dan nice work.

the hubs and housing are going to look pretty darn hot with a whole bunch of yellow and purple launching ahead of it:)

Thanks Guys!

looking forward to getting my front housing, I want to start building it :smokin:

Very nice parts Dan!!! :grinpimp: Someday when I get around to building my buggy I want matching steers from you underneath it.:smokin:

Thanks guys!

what are you guys liking for 14" rotors to go with your hub kits? I prefer a vented .810 rotor but may go 3/8 and just take the spacers out of my calipers.

I found my own solution, made these, inspired by tubeworks. I tried buying from them but could not reach them.

yes..... I know I've got some clean up work to do on my recycled lower control arm mounts, I'll post a nicer pic when i get there:)

Good stuff Ken, see you at the lake!

Just shipped #250, thanks for all the orders on our axle housings! There will be 18 teams entered in KOH this year running our housings at last count, I'm looking for a podium finish :)

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Good talking to you, we'll be ready when you are!

Time for an update...

I should let you all know that we now make 7 different housings from the Toyota 8" to the Nissan Patrol. We make the housings for both the Solid 14 and the Sixty9/Seventy9 thirds. We round it off with a housing for Toyota Landcruisers!

Our prices start at $525 and go up to $725 and are based solely on welding time. Its much more fair than basing price on demand.

I am also bring this up to refute a claim made by a new player in the Housing market stating theirs was the strongest one made. I will not say it is ours although ours is substantially stronger, to claim to be the strongest would be very expensive to prove.

All I will say is that 3" X .375" tube is substantially weaker than the 3.5" X .375" DOM we use in our housings ;)

Thanks for the support guys (and 4 women!), we now have over 400 of these out there playing!

Working on about 10 new things to go with custom housings ;)

I'm wondering if your going to have crazy christmas deals on any of the housings this year? :)

I'm not telling ;)

Oh man come on :D. I need to know so the girl gets something cheap or nice depending on your great company

Shipped 4 today and should be 5 tommorrow!

We make these for any rig but we should have 47 rigs with our axles running in KOH races this year. As far as I can tell that will be more than any other manufacturer!

These are the New Industry Standard!

When are we going to see a ram mount with integrated link mounts for these things!

When are we going to see a ram mount with integrated link mounts for these things!
We make plenty on link mounts for these but I will get to work on a Ram mount.

#500 went out last month! Thanks for supporting us :)