: Scout Dana 300 (TC-146)


slo-vic
07-17-2009, 08:56 AM
We are currently updating our website and I noticed we didn't have much info on the Scout 300. I put this together but I'm not sure if all my data is correct, Any input would be great.....Yes I know I suck at writing.

Scout Dana 300 (TC-146) transfer case

The rugged Scout Dana 300 is one of the most commonly sought after transfer cases by both IH and Jeep enthusiasts. It is also one of the most misunderstood and misidentified. The misconceptions are not all that complex once you know the history, development and key attributes of this somewhat rare transfer case.

The Dana Corporation supplied both Jeep and International Harvester (I.H.) with virtually the same Dana 20 transfer cases prior to 1980. It would only seem logical that as Jeep went to the Dana 300 that I.H. would also follow suit, and they did….well, kind of. When Jeep introduced its’ version of the Dana 300, it was a big step away from the Dana 20. Instead of the older “Texas” bolt pattern, The Jeep 300 had a new round circular six bolt pattern on the front of the case, as well as an impressively lower 2.62 low range. Jeep also introduced a new line of transmissions for this transfer case where the output shaft was separated from the transfer case. The new Jeep 300 had a bearing supported female splined input for the transmission output shaft and transfer case to connect.

The Scout 300 made its’ debut and sad finale in 1980. I.H. was enthralled in a lengthy and nasty labor strike in 1980 which limited production to only 30,000 Scout II vehicles. Politics of the strike aside, The Scout II would never see production again and sadly the company would not survive. This limited production of the Scout 300 featured the new low 2.62, but unlike Jeep, IH kept their same transmissions as were used on the Dana 20. They therefore also kept the same mating system which utilized the “Texas bolt Pattern” and transmission output shaft configuration. The Scout 300 can best be described as a hybrid between a Scout/Jeep Dana 20 and a Jeep Dana 300, but it was essentially a Dana 20 with a 2.62 ratio. This is what makes this transfer case so sought after; the Dana 20 and the Scout 300 are interchangeable.

Since the Scout 300 looks like a Dana 20, many find it hard to differentiate between the two. There are 4 easy ways to clearly I.D. a Scout Dana 300 transfer case:

1. The Texas bolt pattern that was common on the Dana 20 is still used on the Scout 300; however, upon a more detailed inspection it is clearly visible that the Scout 300 omitted the bottom hole on the 5 bolt pattern and only used 4 bolt holes. In other words “The southern tip of Texas was been wiped off the map.” This was necessary to make room for the 2.62 gear set.

2. Check your oil pan. The Dana 20 and the Scout 300 both use a pan on the bottom of the transfer case. The Dana 20 has a noticeable 1” sump pan. The Scout 300 has a sleeker flat style plate.

3. The rear output shaft nose cone on the Scout 300 were aluminum just like the Jeep 300 where as the Dana 20 were cast iron. It was also the norm for the speedo cable on the Dana 20 to be on the inner portion or driver side of the nose cone. The Scout 300 were on the outer portion or passenger side.

4. The shift base for the transfer case shifters on the Scout 300 are also aluminum vs. the cast used on the Dana 20

The Scout 300 was impressively strong for its compact size. Coupled with the lower 2.62 ratio, this transfer case is a prime candidate for a small wheel based vehicle. The transfer case is not indestructible though and we have seen failures to the rear output shaft. Advance Adapters offers a heavy duty 32 spline output shaft kit under part #50-3034 as an upgrade.


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ihojeff
07-17-2009, 11:07 AM
Sounds real good Vic. Only thing you might consider adding is the fact that 1980 IH and Jeep Dana 300's had a shorter tail housing with a different bolt pattern than the 81'-86' D300 Jeep cases.
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ChiScouter
07-17-2009, 01:35 PM
It may also be worth mentioning that not all 1980 Scouts had the Dana 300, but they seemed to be installed in pretty much every drivetrain combination.
How many other old timers remember Scout 300's being for sale brand new for years after IH shut down Scout production for $150 IIRC by an aftermarket vender.

Scout Dork
07-17-2009, 02:40 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/ScoutDork/Dana300.jpg
IH Dana 300 with Auto Bull Gear(left) Jeep Dana 300(right)

The Fleckster
07-17-2009, 05:56 PM
Vic, nice write up. Where will this be posted? Its Nice to see someone do research before posting up here.

As Jeff mentioned The Jeep had 2 different length tailshaft housings. IH only had the one.

Oh and its not sought after by us IH guys. Alot of us have changed out Transmissions and were smart enough to sell them to the Jeep Crowd to finance our upgrades :D.
Yea um no one wants them, but i collect them for fun...yea fun thats it. So send them to me, I'll pay shipping and even thrown in and extra $50 for a steak dinner for finding them for my aaahhh..... COLLECTION :smokin:

chandall
07-17-2009, 06:03 PM
Right on :D

Now I can be properly informed when talking Scout 300's :p

Urban Wheeler
07-18-2009, 12:54 AM
Nice. Mind if I add this to the FAQ?

slo-vic
07-18-2009, 09:48 PM
Thanks for the input guys, I'm going to take your guys advice and re-edit a few things like the nose cone on the rear. I also did not know that the dana 20 was also offered in 1980.

xj9140
10-20-2009, 06:20 AM
would the scout 300 be a good candidate for a stak replace a case? I am looking for a uprade for my 231J

R290
10-20-2009, 08:41 AM
would the scout 300 be a good candidate for a STaK replace a case? I am looking for a upgrade for my 231J

No! There is a difference between the Scout and Jeep 300. If you look real close you can see the Jeep bolts up with a round pattern vs the Scout case bolts to the transmission with a Texas pattern. Old Jeeps had transmission with Texas pattern too, and thats why the Jeep guys wanted a Scout box as it was a quick upgrade to lower gears.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/ScoutDork/Dana300.jpg

xj9140
10-20-2009, 04:10 PM
No! There is a difference between the Scout and Jeep 300. If you look real close you can see the Jeep bolts up with a round pattern vs the Scout case bolts to the transmission with a Texas pattern. Old Jeeps had transmission with Texas pattern too, and thats why the Jeep guys wanted a Scout box as it was a quick upgrade to lower gears.


Your not familiar with the stak dana 300 case?

MochaMike
10-20-2009, 04:32 PM
Your not familiar with the stak dana 300 case?

The input & bolt patterns are different.
IE the input on a Scout D300 would not work on a Stack replace a case.

Does this input look similar to a Scout D300?

http://www.stak4x4.com/products_images/big/d300_transfer_case.jpg

R290
10-20-2009, 08:56 PM
Your not familiar with the stak dana 300 case?

Oh I've looked at it. But your still confusing something with your first question.
STaK makes a Jeep replacement case not an IH replacement case.
The price differance between a Jeep and IH case should also tell you something. So if you have a Scout 300 sell it and buy 2 Jeep 300's:homer:

larboc@hotmail.com
10-20-2009, 09:01 PM
Oh I've looked at it. But your still confusing something with your first question.
STaK makes a Jeep replacement case not an IH replacement case.
The price differance between a Jeep and IH case should also tell you something. So if you have a Scout 300 sell it and buy 2 Jeep 300's:homer:

Or more. Prices are getting so I'm considering selling the 300+t19 bull in my DD scout and putting in a d20 for a quick $400+.

double? more like octuple (sp?)

last heep300 i saw sell went for $50.

Ben W
10-20-2009, 09:08 PM
last heep300 i saw sell went for $50.

I will take every Jeep dana 300 you can can find for $50. I'll cover shipping and give you $25/unit for your trouble. Put them on the truck with the $100 dana 60 fronts.

larboc@hotmail.com
10-20-2009, 09:17 PM
I will take every Jeep dana 300 you can can find for $50. I'll cover shipping and give you $25/unit for your trouble. Put them on the truck with the $100 dana 60 fronts.

How about the round pattern 205 with th400 adapter I just picked up for $120 pulled?

Ben W
10-20-2009, 10:29 PM
what would I want a 205 boat anchor for?

larboc@hotmail.com
10-21-2009, 12:46 PM
what would I want a 205 boat anchor for?

Obviously you're not a golfer.

radjeeper
10-22-2009, 11:16 PM
I have one of these, what's it worth?

jdeit
10-23-2009, 07:20 AM
As much as someone is willing to pay.

I sold my last one for $380 on ebay. I listed it two times before that and nobody would hit my $350 reserve.

elarsen
10-25-2009, 09:20 AM
I have one of these, what's it worth?

$200 shipped to 95451, cali :p

larboc@hotmail.com
11-04-2009, 09:31 PM
chev d60 front, he'll take $400 cash, talked to him.
http://nmi.craigslist.org/pts/1433902583.html

this went for $75
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=144471&highlight=dana+300

This guy would take $100
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=136212&highlight=dana+300