: The Best Way to Lift a Pig


Zipp
09-12-2002, 10:00 PM
Right now I'm thinking of going Spring Over, with 35's. I have been preparing myself to do a spring over on my pig, but I am quite hesitant the closer I get. In all honesty, it will be driven more ON roads, than off road. I'm a college student right now, and it is my only vehicle. It doesn't get driven much- maybe a couple times a week- but still, if the spring over is going to make it dangerous, then I am going to seek out a safer alternative.

Safety is my priority. Second, comes cost. I have gathered up almost everything I need to SO- so that's not the issue. If it's not going to be safe, I'll have to do something else. If the other options cost a bunch, then it might not be an option for me right now. Ya dig?

Any comments that you have to offer would be greatly appreciated, and any experiences would be more appreciated!

Thanks- :fj:

KrustyKruiser
09-12-2002, 10:08 PM
Brandon - you need to add an extra item to the poll - "all of the above" :D

BJ On Roids
09-12-2002, 11:38 PM
and have it look like this!!???

thats on 35s by the way :rolleyes:

ouibus
09-13-2002, 01:10 AM
Brandon,
Go ahead and do the spring over and you won't regret it. One of my roommate had a cruiser with a spring over and he used to drive it 100 MPH on the highway all the time. I also had another roommate that had a CJ7 that was spring over and he nver had any problems with it. I actually used to drive his Jeep all over the place and I loved how it handled. I am in the middle of doing the same thing to my rig and I will never look back. Granted, I am doing coils in the front with wider axles, but I know that I will love it. It only become unsafe if you don't know how to drive it, or the welding that was done was not done correctly. If you are concerned with excessive body roll, just get yourself a set of the new Rancho 9000's. They have like 8 or 9 firmness settings. HTH

Advent Horizon
09-13-2002, 01:40 AM
That CJ must have had a heck of a suspension setup on it, all the ones I see on the road, even the ones lower than my "short" '40 scare the crap out of me. I followed a Willy's Overlander (CJ-8 mail heep) on the highway one day, that sucker was stock and it was tippier than a bobblehead at a dance club!:eek:

ouibus
09-13-2002, 01:48 AM
Nothing too fancy about the suspension of that Jeep. It was just a CJ7 with scout width axles that were sprung over with a MORE shackel reversal in the front. It was riding on 35's at the time, but I have driven it since then, and it rides on 37's now. The springs I believe were from JC Whitney or something like that. They are very near flat and flexed great.

I think that some Jeeps seem scary lifted because they are still using narrow track axles. You need to have at least wide track or better to go above 35's in my opinion. HTH

Kaderabek
09-13-2002, 05:51 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zipp
[B]In all honesty, it will be driven more ON roads, than off road.

Why lift it at all in this case?

TJK

Zipp
09-13-2002, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Kaderabek

Why lift it at all in this case?

TJK
I want it for my weekend trips, which are mainly camping up in the Sierras. My friends and I always find places to do some wheeling. And I think that no one can argue with that- because that's why most people lift their trucks too- for the weekends. Who here gets to do much wheeling durning the week???
:fj:

woody
09-13-2002, 07:41 AM
hhhmm....tough call really. I've had rearched springs, 4" lift springs (Rugged Trail 3-leaf stiffies), 4" lift Skyjackers (much better), and now the SOA on my FJ40. IMO, the SOA is NOT good for accident avoidance maneuvers, but I'm otherwise quite pleased. The on-road ride is by far the best. The additional body roll is quite manageable and controllable, but don't expect to keep up with the rice-racers in the corners. Proper shocks would help, I run DT3000's which are very soft.

Didn't really answer the question did I....heh heh

Mustard Dog
09-13-2002, 07:42 AM
I would go ahead and do the S/O, my 40 is S/O and I love it. The suspension is much smooother and more flexy than the big buck OME springs on my other 40. It doesn't feel tippy in the slightest, and you should be able to clear 35,s with no problems;)

helocat
09-13-2002, 08:33 AM
My resent FJ-40 came with a 2.5 Rancho lift. I pulled that off and went SOA. The rig now drives better than it did SUA. Woody is right run the right shocks like a set you can slow down. (RS9000) We have a guy in our club that uses his FJ-40, SOA, 2.5” body lift w/39.5” as his daily driver. He put in a set of the RS9000’s and the remote adjusting box for them; on full hard (Slowest moving setting) there is hardly any body roll in the corners.

For the $$ you just can’t beat SOA with stock springs. Pull a few leaves to lower the rig a bit and you are good to go. Just do it right and cut and turn the axle, if you can’t do it yourself take it to a shop that can. If $$ is a big issue and no shop is reasonable, sent it up here to OR and I will turn it for you for a weeks worth of beer $$.

dieselcruiserhead
09-13-2002, 11:27 AM
I'd say it depends on who's doing the work. If you're going to pay someone $1500+ to have the spring over done I'd get the 4" Alcans. If you are going to do it yourself, with shocks it'll come to less than $500. I think spring under is still better for daily driving. Stiff springs turn well but make your back hurt a little. But less of an issue with a LWB. I went spring over an was cursing myself because I was daily driving it too. But it turned out my springs were TOO soft hence the sloppyness and roll. I got a set of reasonable medium weight springs and 9000s and it did great, I was told once you go SO you'll never want to go back. I agree--!

YoungDogs
09-13-2002, 11:56 AM
Brandon,

Thanks for your help last night.

Per our conversation I sent you an email (bz3@mail.csuchico.edu) with the info on spring-overs on FJ55s.

fc187
09-13-2002, 01:02 PM
I would have to agree, SOA!

I leave my sway bar connected and run 9000's cranked all the way. Its not bad at all. Keeping an exess of crap off the top of the wagon will help allot to. When I removed my rack I noticed added stability and when I removed my top,...:D allot less body roll in the corners and on the trail. Usually its old school die hards that never had a spring over that fill your head with concearns. Just know what you have and drive accordingly.
definately SOA and for good measure, look into a traction bar also. There are allot of designs out there that are easy to fab your self.

:fj: :beer: