: Wasn't someone selling some U500 axles?


bigsub
08-08-2009, 01:38 AM
I thought but i can't find the thread. Looking for something bigger then the u1300L

jayvegas
08-14-2009, 08:39 AM
wolfgang has some u1550's (or he did?)... those are monsters!! heres a link!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699336&highlight=mog+axle

bigsub
08-14-2009, 09:13 AM
They aren't much bigger then the u1300L and the same size for the most part. I'm looking for like the 10 lug bigger axles. I guess I need to find a place to research it to see what models are available.

NeedaMog
08-15-2009, 09:15 AM
One advantage of the U500 axles is you would not need pinion conversons. The U500 does not have torque tubes.

bigsub
08-24-2009, 11:20 AM
That'd be swell. Now I just have to find some. Are the u500 the biggest? They look about 90" wms. Does anyone know what the wheel stud bolt circle is? I think the 10 lug in the US is 285mm but i think europe uses a 335mm with a larger center bore too.

lt1yj
08-24-2009, 11:48 AM
Just out of curiosity why do you need anything bigger than a U1300L? They are 84" wide and have 1.75" axle shafts before the portal. They are massive axles. IIRC they are ~700#'s stripped of excess brackets.

bigsub
08-24-2009, 02:15 PM
I know, I have a pair. Its getting closer to time to put them back under the truck, and i'm having second thoughts. Its a utility truck, with rock crawler attributes. I don't want to have to baby them.

lt1yj
08-24-2009, 02:36 PM
I know, I have a pair. Its getting closer to time to put them back under the truck, and i'm having second thoughts. Its a utility truck, with rock crawler attributes. I don't want to have to baby them.

I have a set of 1300L's, a couple 419's and a U1000 that I've been playing with for the past couple months and I'm amazed at just how massive these things are. I'm putting together parts for a 1 ton crew cab GMC truck with dual steer axles and knew the 60 and 404's were not going to cut it. After researching the 406-U1300L axles I realized they were overkill for what I needed but were still reasonably priced, and reasonable weight for what they are. My estimated weight is 8000#.

I'm used to dealing with large construction and mining equipment and normally when I look at 14 bolt or 60 stuff I'm impressed with what they can do for the size of the components.

Then I set the axle shaft and pinion of a 419 next to the 60 and 14 bolt stuff and it's just silly how much bigger it is AND it has a gear reduction after the diff.

I don't know what you're building but I'm surprised it needs more strength than the U1300l's.

bigsub
08-24-2009, 04:38 PM
One of the functions will put about 30k on the front axle. Compare a u1300L to a class 8 axle and it is a toothpick.
So does anyone have any tech?
Wasn't there a link to a chart with all the unimogs on it and the capacitys, and dims? I can't find it now.

beaker
08-26-2009, 01:41 PM
Dunno, but the highest grossing weight for an entire U500 is 33k. I don't believe there's an unimog axle that will take 30k...

-mike

Charles Aarons
08-27-2009, 05:35 PM
Unimog North America had 2 brand new rear axles for sale relatively cheap as spares for demos; no fronts (one could be ordered, but not cheap). It has a plated rating of 9000kg = 19845 lb. Practically a Class 8 axle, 20-23K is usual for OTR trucks for single axles. The bolt pattern is 10 on 335mm; the hub is 281mm. The distance bolt surface to surface is 2150mm ~ 84.7".
The front axle is plated at 7500kg = 16538 lb. The ratio for North America is 5.922, for the rest of the world 6.38
You could find Rockwell 5-ton axles or Class 8 OTR truck axles a lot cheaper and easier than U500s. What may I ask are you doing that requires massive load capacity and portals?

Charlie

Charles Aarons
09-09-2009, 05:28 PM
So, any ?s?
I can tell you a set of portal bearings and seals from a Detroit Diesel dealer is about $800/box. Even I just carry one set of bearings as spares. Also the necessary special tools.

Charlie