OK. After having spent so much on them, I want to brag.

350Sami, I can't wait to wheel with you! We're the kings of the stretched little trucks!

http://www.patooyee.com/miscpics/DSC01890.JPG

J. J.

You da man!!!!

Looking very good. I will make the trip for it's first serious run :)

Sweeeeeeeet! I'm guessing we'll see you next season at Jrocc's gettin it!

Damn!!!!!:flipoff2: Really sweet.

looks sweet man

"Hey dude, take a picture of me."

"Wait, I didn't have my fingers up."

cm ":flipoff2:" k

More pics please:eek:

Nice work JJ. Lookin good! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by patooyee

350Sami, I can't wait to wheel with you! We're the kings of the stretched little trucks!
J. J.
Hell Yeeaaa. Ready to go whenever you are. I went to Windrock today and tried out my new rear links. Still need to find a fuel cell.
Let me know when you're ready and we'll post up an invite for everyone, even them Florida boys.:flipoff2:

how you plannin on getting that thing out of the garage??

i was thinkin the same thing. how tall are you? that thing looks like a monster. any chance you could drop the suspension an inch or two to lower the COG at all?

-Steve

EDIT: also what's holding that hood up?

Kick ass dude! I'd love to see that in action!

Originally posted by ROCKTACO
More pics please:eek:

More pics are on my site, but it's obviously still being built and there are no wheeling pics yet. (Unless you count the ones from back when it had 35's.)

To get it out of the garage I am going to put some shitty old rims on it that I have, wheel it out, and put the 44's back on. (Hopefully only once. :))

It's not that high, IMO. The lowest point on the frame is 30" from the ground, but that will be reduced when I lower the air pressure in the tires. (They're at 30psi in that pic from setting the bead.) To give you an idea of exactly how high it is, the front springs are 440044's SOA. That's all the lift. I made the rear to match. (Actually, it's got 1" body, too.)

Man, I can't wait to wheel this thing. Especially if it's with some of the guys from this board! The first serious run will likely be Tellico, but I will DEFINATELY be at ERoCC, if not some other comps, next year.

J. J.

EDIT: The hood is being held up by black magic. :) Naw, the back edges of it are just resting against the firewall. No trick to it. :) I don't leave it that way for long since it tends to bend the back corners of the hood, but to just take poser shots like that one it doesn't hurt. Tubes ging from the cage to the stinger will eventually hold it and the grille in place.

Originally posted by 350 Samurai

Hell Yeeaaa. Ready to go whenever you are. I went to Windrock today and tried out my new rear links. Still need to find a fuel cell.
Let me know when you're ready and we'll post up an invite for everyone, even them Florida boys.:flipoff2:

How did those links hold up? It's funny, because there was a point when I sat around brainstorming for everything I could think up on how to keep from constantly bending lower links. They just seemed like such a sore thumb sticking out of the bottom, but I knew I wanted to do a link suspension. As you can see, I came up with a solution, but I never even contemplated doing what you did. I just think it's funny how 2 people can have such completely different approaches to the same problem.

J. J.

Looks like you can add a much bigger cooler!!!!!:)
What did the wheel base end up as???????
Dan

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Looks like you can add a much bigger cooler!!!!!:)
What did the wheel base end up as???????
Dan

118". I may shorten it as time goes on.

J. J.

Originally posted by Stephen D Hallock
i was thinkin the same thing. how tall are you? that thing looks like a monster. any chance you could drop the suspension an inch or two to lower the COG at all?



For 44s that thing is plenty low and that lift is probably perfect.

JJ are you going to bump stop the front accordingly??? You'll probably have to because even with 38s I get within say 1" of my hoodline when I stuff my 44044s up.

Very very nice!!!

Looks fantastic

Originally posted by 350 Samurai

Hell Yeeaaa. Ready to go whenever you are. I went to Windrock today and tried out my new rear links. Still need to find a fuel cell.
Let me know when you're ready and we'll post up an invite for everyone, even them Florida boys.:flipoff2:

Ha! I can't commit, but if the date works I'll try like hell to be there. I guess I better get the erocc carnage fixed. :D

where you gonna put the cooler ????????:beer: :beer:

Originally posted by redruM
where you gonna put the cooler ????????:beer: :beer:

In the tow-rig. :D Actually, I may make a place for it.

Yes, bigdude. Bumpstops are in the plans. That or remove the hood. :) As it is, I only have room for about 10" of up-travel in the front due to my steering ram hitting the oil pan. So bumpstops will be a necessity.

J. J.

very fawkin nice! ya fawkin bastige:flipoff2:

Nice work dude! :D
I almost didn't recognize you without your hat and shades on. :flipoff2:
What did your track width come out to?

Some how I thought you would be bigger. :D

Looks good! You bring it up to Dixie run?

Looks fawkin sick!

man Im starting to think I should have bought 44's oh well 42's will do for now.
:D

Originally posted by doctor_G
Nice work dude! :D
I almost didn't recognize you without your hat and shades on. :flipoff2:
What did your track width come out to?

Man! I forgot to measure it! I'm sorry. I'll measure it next time I go work on it for ya!

As for Dixie Run, I will definately be there if the truck is done by then! I hope it will be. What is the exact date, again? :D

J. J.

I'll bet you 2 cases of Old Milwaukee, or $10 (same difference), that thing is OVER 4,000 lbs easily. Any takers??? Come Awn JJ I need some old mil dog :D

Originally posted by patooyee


Man! I forgot to measure it! I'm sorry. I'll measure it next time I go work on it for ya!

As for Dixie Run, I will definately be there if the truck is done by then! I hope it will be. What is the exact date, again? :D

J. J.

I think it the first weekend in Oct. Like the 5th and 6th. I should be there aswell, if nothing else I'll be riding with a buddy.

Get that thing done I want to see it in person.:D

Originally posted by bigdude
I'll bet you 2 cases of Old Milwaukee, or $10 (same difference), that thing is OVER 4,000 lbs easily. Any takers??? Come Awn JJ I need some old mil dog :D

Would you take my word on the exact measurement anyway. :D

Man, being in Early Oct. sucks. I was thinking that I might could have it done by the end of Oct., but certainly not any time before that.

J. J.

That's a really innovative design as far as I'm concerned. I'm getting it straight in my mind how that middle link controls lateral movement. I see the triangulation, that last single tube is what I'm hanging up on. There's good bracing there, but still, seems so flimsy.

The way your upper links carry the load is a poster child for 'thinking outside the box'. The stress just takes a little detour.

I know this rig had been in a previous thread, and you took some heat about those outside links (I didn't want to say upper links, they're not, right?)

My questions are:

1) Did you do the spring rate calculations for your 1/4 elip? (I know that's a basic 1/4 elip question, flame me if I'm asking in the wrong place.)

2) Are the curved outside links, the triangulation of the inside link, and the strength of the single tube at the axle based on calculations, or are you just winging it?

I guess the question is, is this a scientific design, or are you winging it based on intuition and experience?

Also, while I can work out in my head how that's going to work, I personally can't wait to see ramp pics. Screw the PBB ethos for the time being, give me poser shots!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by rusted
I personally can't wait to see ramp pics. Screw the PBB ethos for the time being, give me poser shots!:flipoff2:
What is it with Northerners and ramps. :rolleyes:


No offense Syko and Spaceghost. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by rusted
That's a really innovative design as far as I'm concerned. I'm getting it straight in my mind how that middle link controls lateral movement. I see the triangulation, that last single tube is what I'm hanging up on. There's good bracing there, but still, seems so flimsy.

Agreed. I'm thinking of adding more bracing or just redoing the entire upper link. The story behind it is that I ended up having to make bends that I didn't think I was going to have to make and ran out of tubing.

Originally posted by rusted
The way your upper links carry the load is a poster child for 'thinking outside the box'. The stress just takes a little detour.

I know this rig had been in a previous thread, and you took some heat about those outside links (I didn't want to say upper links, they're not, right?)

I think what you're referring to as upper links are actually what would normally be lower links. Mine are just bent and happen to go up higher than my "upper" link.

Originally posted by rusted
1) Did you do the spring rate calculations for your 1/4 elip? (I know that's a basic 1/4 elip question, flame me if I'm asking in the wrong place.)

I didn't do spring rate calcs because by the time I had it immobilized in the garage I hadn't weighed the rear. I also knew that I was going to cut a lot of the rear off and that spring rates can get screwed up in 1/4 elips because you need to compensate for added weight of tools and coolers and such. I've heard of people dialing in their spring rates and then being mad because they put a toolbox in and the rear sagged. I just got a spring rate that I seemed to feel comfortable with and add the the overload leaves on top to prevent too much sag from added weight. I guess it's not too scientific, but it seems to work right now. I can add a lot of weight and it will sag to a point, but stop there. (Notice that the rear is a little higher in that pic because there is no weight in the back right now.)

Originally posted by rusted
2) Are the curved outside links, the triangulation of the inside link, and the strength of the single tube at the axle based on calculations, or are you just winging it?

I guess just winging it. I posted up here on POR to see what everyone else was using for links. I knew that, if I used the same thing, only braced it, I would be well beyond the safety margin. The material in my links is 1.5x.250 at the smallest parts. Most of it is braced. Not sure if I answered your question right. The links were made using triangulation methods, though. Every angle and curve in all of those links I calculated using geometric principles. To determine pinion travel, I just made the links pivot at the frame from the same point, using one large 3/4" bolt through each side. That way, I just point my pinion toward the t-case and it stays perfectly inline the way I want it. (The pivot point is parrallel to the CV yoke.)

Originally posted by rusted
Also, while I can work out in my head how that's going to work, I personally can't wait to see ramp pics. Screw the PBB ethos for the time being, give me poser shots!:flipoff2:

Me, either, buddy ... I can't wait to see them either. :)

J. J.

Am I missing something or is the rear half of your cage going to fold if you roll it? It looks like the the main brace is at a steep angle and the rear down bar has a 60 deg bend. It just doesn't look all that safe from the one picture. What am I not seeing?

Originally posted by newt
Am I missing something or is the rear half of your cage going to fold if you roll it? It looks like the the main brace is at a steep angle and the rear down bar has a 60 deg bend. It just doesn't look all that safe from the one picture. What am I not seeing?

I think you are missing something. 1) There is no bend in the rear downbar. 2) The cage isn't done yet. :flipoff2:

J. J.

Don't change tires to get it out of the garage....just let the air out of those and back it out.

It will help break in those 44's since the weight of your truck won't be helping matters much.

Your rig looks awesome!!