I finally got a photo bucket account so hopefully the pic's will work all the way down now. I'm in the process of adding them all back so check it all back out......


OK I've never posted in here before so here goes, hopefully I don't get flamed too hard. I've got a high mile 03 z71 suburban that is hopefully only my daily driver for a little while longer. It's got a new 4l60e and a new transfer-case and I have a 60 front and a 14 bolt rear I want to put in. And if this damn economy will come back I want to go coilover and 4 link front and rear. For now I'm driving this daily and doing a fair amount of towing so until I get a new truck I can't go to crazy with this one. When that day comes this is going to be a hardcore rock crawler.

So I put a body lift on cuz I wanted some clearance for these bumpers and plan to keep running it when I go sas. The rear is what I would call a road armor/iron bull style but I designed it all myself starting with a 1/4in plywood template. The front is going to be a lot like it and I want to tie it all together with an exo cage as soon as I can afford a bender.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1130.jpg

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1658.jpg

the new plasma cutter, I literally slung the cart together in less than 10min starting with an old broken hand truck and after a few weeks of use I'd say it works exactly like I wanted. The tires are large enough and have enough bounce to jump cords and roll outside and all that without getting stuck or having to man handle it around. It's the little things that make shop work so much easier.

I like the look of it. What do the sides look like? Also are you planing to use your bumper as a air tank to?

Heres the bumper I just made for my 2000 Blazer, which is going to double as a air tank.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/sirg2424/Blazer%20Build/SDC11490.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/sirg2424/Blazer%20Build/SDC11405.jpg

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1917.jpg

These brackets sleeve over the frame rails and use the same mounting locations on the frame as the factory hitch. They are 1/4in wall thickness as is the tub that connects them together. I did it like this so that I can attach the hitch and it all be one integrated piece which is hopefully going to add strength.

More of that inside bracket.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1918.jpg

note: I am planning to add some trussed from the square tube back to the large tube that sleeves the frame rails and nothing is completely finish welded in any of these pic's

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1919.jpg




set up in the shop:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1924.jpg

and one of the burb like it's not sitting with the bl

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1915.jpg

start of the top and lisence plate box. it's all 1/4in because it ties into the hitch and the main tube running between the frame rails and I wanted all of that to be bullet proof. If I could go back I might not make the top out of 1/4 cuz its soo heavy, but oh well. it's on there now. Also this is gonna get trusses too.
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1925.jpg



LP box
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1926.jpg

another angle

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1927.jpg
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Laying everything out:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1932.jpg

Straight edge and the plasma make pretty short work of the plates. I cut them all in less than an hour. I have some pretty big drum sanders that I got metal sanding belts for that work awesome and knocking the little bit of slag or other imperfections and I also used it to bevel edges so my peices fit nice and tight.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1934.jpg

[QUOTE=Sirg2424;10207824]I like the look of it. What do the sides look like? Also are you planing to use your bumper as a air tank to?

Heres the bumper I just made for my 2000 Blazer, which is going to double as a air tank.



No Air tank in this one as of right now. I've got a nice space behind it that I could put one of those thin 5gal tanks in so I may go that route when get to the point I need air. I'm also thinking about the warn winch that has the compressor built in and I don't think those need tanks?

tacking everything up:
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1935.jpg

as far as I could get in one night:
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1945.jpg

another shot:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1944.jpg

last pic of the night:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_1938.jpg



I've got to figure out how I'm going to turn the corner and bring the bumper down the side of the truck. I kind of want to take it to the back of the wheel well and then tie a hoop from a new rock slider into the bumper as the bottom part of the exo cage, we'll just have to see how it looks when I finish the template in plywood. Then I have a lot of finish welding to do and a TON of grinding before it's going to be finished.

Yeah ur pics aren't showing up. U need a red star to post pics. Its $20.00 a year for a red start if I recall right. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/payments.php

but the links do work? I may have to break down and buy a star. if I get one will the pic's that I've already posted work automatically?

but the links do work? I may have to break down and buy a star. if I get one will the pic's that I've already posted work automatically?

I am not sure if they will, but u can allways go back and edit ur posts for the pics. Also having a red star allows u to see other areas of the forums and allows u get into the free giveaways that the venders hold here.:smokin:

but the links do work? I may have to break down and buy a star. if I get one will the pic's that I've already posted work automatically?

Yeah, I can't see the pics either.

You don't have to have a star to post pics, though we wouldn't mind you supporting the cause by purchasing one. I used to use Photobucket before I bought my star. I see you're using Snapfish for photo hosting, I'm not familiar with that site, but on Photobucket, or any other image file on a web site you need to use the image code, i.e. http://file location/file name (without the *) and the image should show up.


For example:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/bigdaddylee82/Offroad/PB010051.jpg


With out the * looks like this:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/bigdaddylee82/Offroad/PB010051.jpg

- Lee

Yeah, I can't see the pics either.

You don't have to have a star to post pics, though we wouldn't mind you supporting the cause by purchasing one. I used to use Photobucket before I bought my star. I see you're using Snapfish for photo hosting, I'm not familiar with that site, but on Photobucket, or any other image file on a web site you need to use the image code, i.e. http://file location/file name (without the *) and the image should show up.


For example:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/bigdaddylee82/Offroad/PB010051.jpg


With out the * looks like this:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd206/bigdaddylee82/Offroad/PB010051.jpg

- Lee



hummm........ that is what I thought I was doing. lets see if this works

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=1200937021/PictureID=34484152021/a=1623704021_1623704021/otsc=SHR/otsi=SPIClink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=1200937021/PictureID=34484152021/a=1623704021_1623704021/otsc=SHR/otsi=SPIClink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/


or:

http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53699%3Enu%3D4855%3E936%3E253%


do the links to the pic's work though?

Here:

I had to sign up for a Snapfish account, and physically add the and but it works. Right click on the photo in Snapfish, click properties, copy and paste the Address/URL, and then type the img code at the begining and end of the url.

I didn't see an easier way to do it in Snapfish. Pony up the $20 or get a Photobucket, Imageshack, or Flickr account.

Here's what doing all of the above accomplished:
http://images2c.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53664%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E835%3E499%3E23 2%3C83558%3A257ot1lsi


I'll also add that the your last post's photos didn't show up for me either, and that I dig the bumper.


- Lee

links work for me.

This gate goes upward correct? I know you are building it plenty sturdy but hopefully you never drop that ass end down on something and tweak that thing to where u cant open your hatch... Looks good tho... Extends too far for my taste, but looks killer; I love the integrated hitch into the bumper, I know it's gotta get cluttered around the ass end of that thing.

That looks good! You going to add lights or anything?

This gate goes upward correct? I know you are building it plenty sturdy but hopefully you never drop that ass end down on something and tweak that thing to where u cant open your hatch... Looks good tho... Extends too far for my taste, but looks killer; I love the integrated hitch into the bumper, I know it's gotta get cluttered around the ass end of that thing.

The way I put gussets in it last night I don't think it could get tweaked up, but if it does hopefully a long (8-10ft) bar shoved into the hitch could bring it back down. Right now it doesn't move an inch. I tested it a little yesterday too with a trailer and tractor just on the road by the shop starting out and then on the interstate. I've got all the confidence in the world that the hitch is capable of towing just about anything. I had to extend the bumper that far so I could make the corner turn and it not look like crap. It's really not that far out, with the body lift and the way it cuts back up in my departure angle is a lot better than stock.

That looks good! You going to add lights or anything?

Yea. I've got 2 small oval flood lights I'm gonna recess back up into the bumper. Hopefully they make it easier to put my mudbuddy duck boat in the water. I've also got some 1in D-ring tabs and am planning on leaving some rings on it. I also have to go get a trailer hook-up box that I can mount to the bumper. I got one at auto zone for the bumper I built for my dodge that worked really well and was up out of harms way and easy to hook up. (that bumper is for sale so let me know if you need pic's, fits 02-06 dodge ram's I know 1500's and believe it will fit 2500 and 3500 as well)

Linked pictures SUCK

Bumper looks good. I 've got a 73 IH pick-up needing a bumper . Thanks for some more ideas.

Linked pictures SUCK

Thank you for adding some valuable insight to this topic. Your observations are profound :shaking:

I've finish welded what I had tacked up so far and have started cleaning it all up with the grinder. Hopefully I can figure out how to post pic's better and get some updates on the progress.

Just sign up for a free account on photobucket.com and host the images there, then just copy and paste the IMG portion here, and it'll link them over. I'm defininately interested in more pics, since I want to do the same thing for my 2500, make a rock solid bumper with and integrated hitch.

ok other than some grinding and getting my d-ring tabs welded on I haven't made any progress in the last week or so. I rattel can'd it flat black just so it would stop rusting until I can get some time to work on it. With football season and deer season upon us i'm not sure when that will be, but eventually I'll knock out the corners and start on a front. Figured I would add some pic's of the little bit of progress though.
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_2074.jpg
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thats awesome bro!!

I finially got some free time to work on the bumper a little. Ended up getting engaged at the end of Dec. and have been busy sitting in on meetings about things I know most men don't care about.

At any rate, I've made about 20 templates for turning the corners and hated everyone of them until now. I've got my light plates with speed holes going up and am going to bring a 1.5in .120 dom tube around the light and back down into the bumper. When I do the exo cage I'll tie it all back down into this I think. This is as far as I got today, my brother just got here and we're about to put a lift on his 1500 Crew Cab GMC, hopefully I get back on the bumper tomorrow.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/P1010185.jpg

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/P1010189.jpg

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http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/P1010186.jpg

Looks good so far.

looks pretty stout and professional

Looks like it belongs there, hopefully your front bumper follows the same look

Looks like your bumpers are going to add some weight to the vehicle that the body lift won't fix. I put H2 rear coil springs and 3/4 ton pickup torsion bars on my 2000 Suburban, got about 1.5 to 2 inches of lift out of that combo.
I run 285/75 x 16 tires on mine. Nothing rubs.

Whacha gonna do with the sides?

so your gonna exo the burb? whats your plans gonna be? this would be an awesome expo rig

Looks like your bumpers are going to add some weight to the vehicle that the body lift won't fix. I put H2 rear coil springs and 3/4 ton pickup torsion bars on my 2000 Suburban, got about 1.5 to 2 inches of lift out of that combo.
I run 285/75 x 16 tires on mine. Nothing rubs.

I never thought of the hummer coil springs, that's a great idea. What do they do in the front of the hummer? is that suspension just bigger or are they simply using different bars and keys? I've got 285's on it right now and have tried pretty hard to get it to rub and it won't so that's good, but it looks like this one is going to be my dd a while longer so i'm thinking I might do something like keys and a block (or something similar) and try to run 35's until I can do the sas. At the same time I think that's just throwing money away since my ultimate goal is coilovers, 4 link, and sas. So i'll just have to way all my options.

Whacha gonna do with the sides?

I intended to take them to the back of the rear wheel well, but 20 crapy looking templates later i've decided just to bring it about 2in toward the front of the car past the tail light. That will leave just enough room to bring the 1.5 tube down from those tall plates down around the outline of my lights and into the bumper. Then I want to see if it will look good to take some solid 1/4 or 3/8 rod and bend it to follow the contour of the light and weld them in between the vertical plate and the 1.5 tube. We'll just have to see how it looks when I get to that point.

so your gonna exo the burb? whats your plans gonna be? this would be an awesome expo rig

Plan is a matching front bumper with a winch and a functional indo bar (yes I know it's going to have to be pretty long to be functional) but I think i've figured out a way to make it removable, but still strong enough to do it's job if it has to. Then i'll remove the nerf bars and put some rock sliders on it, so that I can tie the exo into the bumpers and sliders and make a functional cage on the ol' burb. Somewhere in here is going to be an sas with a dana 60 front and a 14 bolt rear (both of which I already have sitting in the shop). Hoping to be able to afford coilovers and 4 link front a rear, but also thinking I might be able to save some money if I do air bags (just trying to figure out if that's HD enough to actually wheel?). When its no longer my dd I plan to wheel it like I did my cj and tj, in the rocks. and it will also be my hunting truck as well.

If your really gonna tow with that then tie the hitch into the frame down further on the truck..Do you really wanna trust the force from going across an intersection to a piece of square tubing that's like 2"..

Id find a way to add some struts to run from the mounts you have now to about 10-14" towards the front of the truck.

Looks good and its nice to see newer truck owners building instead of buying over priced junk.

If your really gonna tow with that then tie the hitch into the frame down further on the truck..Do you really wanna trust the force from going across an intersection to a piece of square tubing that's like 2"..

Id find a way to add some struts to run from the mounts you have now to about 10-14" towards the front of the truck.

Looks good and its nice to see newer truck owners building instead of buying over priced junk.

Yea I actually trust it completely, if you look at what I've got it's a minimum of 2x as strong as the stock hitch. My plates sleeve over the frame rails and use the stock hitch mounting holes, plus I've added 2 more 1/2in grade eight bolts that go through the frame. The tube that is in between the frame rails is 3/8 wall and the same diameter as the standard hitch tube. I am planning on adding some gussets from the plates that sleeve the frame to that cross bar, and I already have them from the cross bar to the hitch. Plus the actual bumper is welded back to the hitch out at the end close to where the hitch pin slides in. So far I've tested about 4,300lbs of load on it (with safety chains going to the frame) and it did just fine even without the additional trusses/gussets. When I'm finished this level IV hitch stuff should act more like level V or VI. I'm not going to tow anything super heavy until I get the rest of the trusses in, but I don't have any concern about the design. Any load that's too much for this bumper is going to be too much for my engine and transmission as well.

I never thought of the hummer coil springs, that's a great idea. What do they do in the front of the hummer? is that suspension just bigger or are they simply using different bars and keys? I've got 285's on it right now and have tried pretty hard to get it to rub and it won't so that's good, but it looks like this one is going to be my dd a while longer so i'm thinking I might do something like keys and a block (or something similar) and try to run 35's until I can do the sas. At the same time I think that's just throwing money away since my ultimate goal is coilovers, 4 link, and sas. So i'll just have to way all my options

The H2 rear springs give you about 2" of lift. Suburban front torsion bars are usually the lightest bars Chevy makes, you may be able to check the part numbers on the old bars if the paper tags are still there. They can be replaced by the 3/4 ton truck bars for a couple of inches in front also. The H2 rear springs I bought from GM parts direct for around 200 dollars shipped.

I never thought of the hummer coil springs, that's a great idea. What do they do in the front of the hummer? is that suspension just bigger or are they simply using different bars and keys? I've got 285's on it right now and have tried pretty hard to get it to rub and it won't so that's good, but it looks like this one is going to be my dd a while longer so i'm thinking I might do something like keys and a block (or something similar) and try to run 35's until I can do the sas. At the same time I think that's just throwing money away since my ultimate goal is coilovers, 4 link, and sas. So i'll just have to way all my options

The H2 rear springs give you about 2" of lift. Suburban front torsion bars are usually the lightest bars Chevy makes, you may be able to check the part numbers on the old bars if the paper tags are still there. They can be replaced by the 3/4 ton truck bars for a couple of inches in front also. The H2 rear springs I bought from GM parts direct for around 200 dollars shipped.


I did some 3500 torsion bars (can't remember the number or color code that gave the spring weight) on the tahoe I had on 38's and they were good for some lift, but not so great for the ride since they were much stiffer. Since this is only going to be a temporary fix anyways, I think I'm just going to get one of those key and coil spring spacer block kits that are like 270 shipped. Then as soon as this economy allows me a new truck I'll start the sas on this one. I do want to try and post on some hummer boards though to see how cheap i could get a set of springs off someone who lifted there hummer or a wrecked hummer. I bought the last set of torsion bars for $100 from my local junk yard so if I could get some springs cheap that would be the least costly solution and I would probably go that route.

I hope you are luckier than me, I looked for a year before I finally just bought new springs.

The H2 front end parts are all the same as 3/4 ton trucks, so all the interchanges are the torsion bars.

OK I finally got the corner design worked out and the driver corner welded up except for one very small triangle. Planning on doing the passenger side tonight. I'm pretty motivated to get it done right now, I've got suspension maxx key's and a coil spring spacer that should be here tomorrow which should pick up about 2-3in as well as some new 35x12.50 BFG MT K2's. Hopefully I'm going to get the corners done this weekend as well as paint my rims black, and install the Pioneer AVIC double din navi unit I picked up a few months ago. Then I have to buy a wedding band and pay for a honeymoon, and after all that I can save up for a winch and start my front bumper. I'm actually kind of hoping she gets me a winch as a wedding present, we will see.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/P1010202.jpg

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/P1010203.jpg

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That's pretty cool. But it makes me wonder. You have very good fab skills. What is the reason for keeping all of that sheet metal in the rear quarter panel? Don't you think you could gain some clearance by cutting that off, and having the bumper go under it? Why do you have so much hanging down on the bumper? I'm also confused about the body lift. Did you go with a body lift so that you could make a big bumper? Your bumper seems to stick out, and down, farther than it needs to. If you are going to wheel it, then you will regret that. Especially with how long the rear of a burb is.

I'm not bashing. Honestly wondering

That's pretty cool. But it makes me wonder. You have very good fab skills. What is the reason for keeping all of that sheet metal in the rear quarter panel? Don't you think you could gain some clearance by cutting that off, and having the bumper go under it? Why do you have so much hanging down on the bumper? I'm also confused about the body lift. Did you go with a body lift so that you could make a big bumper? Your bumper seems to stick out, and down, farther than it needs to. If you are going to wheel it, then you will regret that. Especially with how long the rear of a burb is.

I'm not bashing. Honestly wondering

Yea cutting body panels definitely crossed my mind in the beginning, but rarely have I owned anything that didn't have a bunch of dents and I just couldn't bring myself to do it to panels that weren't beat up. The pictures must be deceiving because the bumper doesn't hang down below the frame rails, and that is why I did the body lift. So I could build a huge bullet proof bumper that didn't hang down below the frame. It sticks out from the rear about 3/4in more than the stock bumper in the center, but is actually tighter in on the corners if you measure straight back. Could I have made something tighter, yes, But I didn't want to and my departure angle is steeper than I would be with the stock bumper so I consider that an improvement.

I've got all my plates cut to finish the passenger corner (which I'm about to weld up) and then all the major fab work is done. I'm going to have to take it to my local 4wd shop to bend up the .120 dom tube light guards. Then I'll finish welding everything on the inside, add a few gussets, and get her painted. But I decided to get the suspension maxx 3in kit so I could clear 35's and I got it installed last night. I figured my last set of bfg's lasted 68,000 miles (I rotate every single oil change, and I truly believe it helps) so if i'm only going to get new tires every 4 years I better get what I want now. I've got my brothers old rims and 245's on it now so I could go ahead and take my tires off my rims and duracoat them black. I think they turned out pretty good, I just hope they hold up.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/P1010207.jpg

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The 3in kit is just a coil spring spacer for the rear, and I didn't realize I needed longer shocks with this kit, but the directions say "longer shocks usually required". I wonder why just "usually". how do I know if I need longer, they haven't bottomed out or anything yet (that I'm aware of)? but in thinking about shocks I realized I had some bilsteins from a old tj project that I didn't use. I'm thinking i'll get a shock hoop bent for the front and use these up there (re valved of course), and then get some 5150's for the rear. what do yall think?

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/P1010211.jpg

Nice work on the rear bumper. I really like the Tire and Rim choice.

here are some pic's of how the truck is currently sitting. I drove about 180 miles yesterday and it was like a caddy.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/3.jpg

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/2.jpg

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/1.jpg

Whatever happened to this thread/axleswap/front bumper build?

i second that more more or didi the wifey cath wind

I forgot all about this thread until just a minute ago when I was searching custom bumpers to get ideas for my front and ran across the one i made for my rear. Most of you will think this is funny, but the rear still isn't what I'd call 100% finished (how about 98.3%). I did get the 120 dom tube on the corners, so all that's left is a couple gussets on the inside and al's bed liner to finish it off. See below:
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_20110415_181356.jpg
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_20111004_171420.jpg
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http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_20110415_181334.jpg

Then the buzz at work was that we were going to get a 5x10 torchmate plasma table, so naturally i put the front bumper project on hold until I saw if that was going to pan out. That process took from mid Feb until the first of Aug, but now I've got a table up and running and have figured things out enough to start making some bad ass stuff. What that means for those of you who asked about kits and stuff when I made this rear is that whatever I come up with for the front I can hit run and cut out as many as I want. If I come up with something you like and people are interested I may be inclined to make complete bumpers or a kit (consisting of a box of plates and some directions).
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/SavageLogoShelf.jpg
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The reason we got the table to start with: http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/zsavage81/IMG_20110806_212857.jpg


Then 2 weeks ago I was lucky enough for someone to hit me in the front of my truck and only pretty much mess up my bumper, lights, and grill so I bet you can guess where that insurance check is going. I've hit the you-pick-it for the lights and grill, and today I ordered a warn 12k, 3 gallons of al' liner, the spray gun, a hi lift extreme, painless dual battery thing, 2 optima yellow tops, some kc lights, and a bunch of other goodies to make this thing sick up front. Once the winch gets here I'll have something to template off of and the front bumper process will begin. The template process will take about the same amount of time as it did before, plus I've got to take that and draw it up in cad, but hopefully means I only have to template one side and since the parts are going to be cut perfectly will mean way less time actually welding it all together. Then I'm going to line both bumpers, my rockers, and fender flairs.
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