Anybody here running the Superlift Superrunner steering on their street truck, I was curious to as how well it holds up to every day driving, I plan on possibly using it on a project if everything works out correctly......

I am looking at possibly building a lifted (5.5 inch "bent" beam setup from Chassis Tech not the drop bracket lifts like alot of companies have) 2WD mid 90's ranger, I can possibly get a extended cab 2.3 5 speed truck for 800 bucks thats got a fresh engine and trans and has a good body, it just needs a master cylinder......

I've always wanted a POSER:shaking:(yes ill admit it) pre-runner style ranger to drive on the street and living in central florida its something different from the 19 foot tall F250's you see everywhere and will still get decent mileage......This truck will NEVER be wheeled, the most off-road it will see is driving around my yard or driving down a maintained dirt country road......

I GOT MY FLAME SUIT ON SO DONT WORRY!!!!!!

The big thing I've seen with Superlifts superrunner steering setup... Is right out of the box you may have to modify it...

They appear to be built for approx 2" of lift or so... Normally you should lengthen the plate attaching the upper drag-links to the tie-rod on the bottom to correct steering geometry.

Other then that, I haven't heard any bad about them.

I would stay away from anything with super lift on it... Just build or buy a swing set and be done..., the first time. There is going to be some light fabrication, but the out come will be far better.

I havent been around the pre run seen in a while, but if you search (steering swing + pre runner)... You should be able to get going in the right direction.


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http://camburg.com/

http://www.threatmotorsports.com/

http://giantmotorsports.com/

Theres a few companies with info on steering.

Threat is the only one with a steering kit and its 1700, a little much for a street driven truck considering it will never leave the pavement, if i was actually going to offroad it, yes i would probably get it cause its decent priced for a full steer kit, and Camburg and Giant both only sell the swingers, nothing else........Sucks cause i dont have the time or setup to fab anything.....

The Superlift kit has it's flaws, but it can be made to work rather well.

Like rf_blazer said, the height of the centerlink (tie rod block mount) will often need to be altered so that the tie rods are in better alignment with the axle beams. Otherwise you end up still having the very bumpsteer that Superlift claims the kit is supposed to get rid of.


I run the Superrunner steering kit on both of my vehicles, which also get regular use on trails like Rubicon or Dusy/Ershim (little-to-no desert jumping or prerunner action though). The TREs have all held up fine with regular greasing (60,000 miles on my Ranger, 20,000 or so on my BII). I did gusset up the idler arm and it's bracket however, as they appeared a little weak on their own. The upper bushings in the idler arm also tend to get a little loose over time. Fortunately they appear to be commonly available 1.5" leafspring bushings made of hard urethane.

stick with the y link setup if your running it on the streets, or if you want do what i did and grab a 2wd sploder y link its larger in diameter and in length, and it also comes with bends in it to help compensate any bump steer.

joel h on here is running the stupid runner setup and he is switching to the same setup i have, until one day we both decide to build a cross over

The Superlift kit has it's flaws, but it can be made to work rather well.

Like rf_blazer said, the height of the centerlink (tie rod block mount) will often need to be altered so that the tie rods are in better alignment with the axle beams. Otherwise you end up still having the very bumpsteer that Superlift claims the kit is supposed to get rid of.

I run the Superrunner steering kit on both of my vehicles, which also get regular use on trails like Rubicon or Dusy/Ershim (little-to-no desert jumping or prerunner action though). The TREs have all held up fine with regular greasing (60,000 miles on my Ranger, 20,000 or so on my BII). I did gusset up the idler arm and it's bracket however, as they appeared a little weak on their own. The upper bushings in the idler arm also tend to get a little loose over time. Fortunately they appear to be commonly available 1.5" leafspring bushings made of hard urethane.

Thanks for all the tips, I appreciate the time.....Now I just got to wait for the owner to decide if he wants to sell it.......I will never be jumping the truck, just driving it on the street, the only sand it will see is when I drive it over to Daytona for the weekend and cruise the beach......

stick with the y link setup if your running it on the streets, or if you want do what i did and grab a 2wd sploder y link its larger in diameter and in length, and it also comes with bends in it to help compensate any bump steer.

joel h on here is running the stupid runner setup and he is switching to the same setup i have, until one day we both decide to build a cross over

What year was the explorer or was it a specific model, cause occasionally sometimes specific steering only comes on specific models.......(like 2002 dodge rams only have HD steering)

Threat is the only one with a steering kit and its 1700, a little much for a street driven truck considering it will never leave the pavement, if i was actually going to offroad it, yes i would probably get it cause its decent priced for a full steer kit, and Camburg and Giant both only sell the swingers, nothing else........Sucks cause i dont have the time or setup to fab anything.....

That does suck... but, you are looking at it backwards. I could care less, about how you drive your truck off road. You are driving on the same public streets, as my family and me. Steering is the last place you should cut corners!!!! Cut your corners on lift springs or shocks, and / or body lifts.


Thanks for all the tips, I appreciate the time.....Now I just got to wait for the owner to decide if he wants
sell it.......I will never be jumping the truck, just driving it on the street, the only sand it will see is when I drive it over to Daytona for the weekend and cruise the beach......

Once again with the street driving thing... Think about others, before you think about yourself...


What year was the explorer or was it a specific model, cause occasionally sometimes specific steering only comes on specific models.......(like 2002 dodge rams only have HD steering)

Good luck on this, I hope you make solid decisions for the right reasons.


*** EDIT*** I am not trying to be a dick. I am good at it though. I am just trying to bring public safety. and the whole "lifted trucks are the devil" debate into light.

If its not safe I would never do it, one thing I will never cobble is steering, I am all about good steering, I was a victim of someones idiocy one time and luckily I didnt total my truck, they didnt install the draglink correctly on my 4x4 95 V10 dodge ram (before I got the truck) and had it come apart driving at 10 mph on a city street, I got very lucky that night......I'm a big advocate of safe steering.....

When I was refering to it not needing steering like that, I meant it didnt need that advanced level of steering (not the safety aspect of it), like having a old 80's chevy on 6 inches of lift and 35's thats street driven, for normal driving you put a drop pitman arm and a small spacer block under the driver side axle steering arm and its perfectly safe, its been done for years that way and its a tried and true setup, as opposed to putting a 2wd box, custom pitman arm, high steer arm and cross over on it like you would do if you was going to actually wheel it......both work good and are tried and true but one is a little overkill for a full time mall crawler......

stick with the y link setup if your running it on the streets, or if you want do what i did and grab a 2wd sploder y link its larger in diameter and in length, and it also comes with bends in it to help compensate any bump steer.

joel h on here is running the stupid runner setup and he is switching to the same setup i have, until one day we both decide to build a cross over

Bends in the linkage do absolutely nothing for bumpsteer. :shaking:

Bends in the linkage do absolutely nothing for bumpsteer. :shaking:

it did for me

It must be your imagination playing tricks then, because bumpsteer is determined solely by the placement of the points where your tierods are attached in relation to the axle and it's pivots. You could put 20,000 bends in your tierods making nice pretzel shapes and the relationship between these points still doesn't change.

You could put 20,000 bends in your tierods making nice pretzel shapes and the relationship between these points still doesn't change.
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When I raced, a local 4x4 shop sponsored me, and we thought the SuperRunner was the shet for my 84 Bronco with a Ranger body on it. We raced once, bent the crap out of it, went to the SuperLift booth for some help, and got none.

At the end of the day, their IDEA is good, but their execution sucks. You'd be better off spending time with some steel, a saw, and ProFabby (A welder) and building your own. I swear those SuperRunners are made out of conduit.

When I raced, a local 4x4 shop sponsored me, and we thought the SuperRunner was the shet for my 84 Bronco with a Ranger body on it. We raced once, bent the crap out of it, went to the SuperLift booth for some help, and got none.

At the end of the day, their IDEA is good, but their execution sucks. You'd be better off spending time with some steel, a saw, and ProFabby (A welder) and building your own. I swear those SuperRunners are made out of conduit.

I work out of country 11 months out of the year, the other 35 days are split up between 3 different times......I get about 10 days at home every 4-5 months, so fabrication and design time is next to nothing......Plus I wont be racing this, just street driving......