What OAL are you using on 230 grain RN .45 ACP? I am having trouble with them sticking on the feed. I am startng to think maybe my crimp isnt rounded enough and the case is what might be catching?

I usually set mine to 1.275" OAL and use a decent crimp with a Lee FCD. Never had any problems running through a Glock 21. I don't have any loaded up right now or I'd put up a pic.

You should have gotten a Kimber.










Seriously though, is this only in one gun or have you tried it in multiple guns?

Fuck off Ben.
Thats not funny.

and I'm no help

You could be crimping it too much, resulting in case bulges.

What type of crimper are you using?

Try running just enough crimp to get rid of the edge left by flaring the case mouth. 45ACP most likely doesn't have enough recoil to make bullets jump crimp.

Stocking up on .45 eh Keith? Hmm, why is that? Do you have a new acquisition? :D

Seriously though, is this only in one gun or have you tried it in multiple guns?

Just one right now, Sig 1911. I am shooting it in USPSA in 2 weeks and was trying to develop a load today. Only 3 or 4 out of 350 shot, but its 3 or 4 more than I wanted.

You could be crimping it too much, resulting in case bulges.

Had not thought of that. I am getting slightly bulged cases after loading them, but I attributed that to the bullet seating. The area around the bullet is actually wider than the center of the casing where the powder is.

What type of crimper are you using?

All Dillon dies on a 550.

Try running just enough crimp to get rid of the edge left by flaring the case mouth. 45ACP most likely doesn't have enough recoil to make bullets jump crimp.

I wasnt really worried about bullet jump so much as stuffing a projectile into the case when it loads. Don't wanna create to much pressure.

Stocking up on .45 eh Keith? Hmm, why is that? Do you have a new acquisition? :D

Don't know what you mean :grinpimp: Bringing any objects we don't speak of Tuesday? ;) :p

The thread is worthless without , well, you get the idea.:D IN any case, If you think it might be your oal, try a few longer and shorter with no primer or powder. Maybe you gun likes them one way or the other. I load right to book length, whatever it is, don't know off the top of my head, and it runs in all my .45's with no problem. BUt maybe that German junk is different.:p

OK, just went and checked. Book length on the Hornady manual is 1.230 and that's what I have been loading to with a RN for years and they feed great in all four of my Glocks and one Sig. I use a regular Lee taper crimp on my mine and crimp them just enough to leave a mark on the bullet when I take it apart, or as Sturgell said, enough to round off the brass. If you have a bulge below the bullet, you're crimping too much. A Lee FCD is not required to get a good crimp, you just need to adjust what you have. I don't know how Dillon dies adjust so I can't help you there. What is your current OAL? And post a pic of the crimp.

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Hmm, everything looks ok to me. If anything it looks like you have too much crimp but that shouldn't give you feed problems.Try running them a little longer and see if that's what the gun likes.

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Yep, fixed the picky Kimber's feed problems. Now anything that wont fit nice in there gets run in one of my 1911's. :D Free ammo, gotta like it.

What OAL are you using on 230 grain RN .45 ACP? I am having trouble with them sticking on the feed. I am startng to think maybe my crimp isnt rounded enough and the case is what might be catching?

I us a Dillon case guage and these fit fine. The more I think about it I realize I did not pay attention to magazines. I have ten or so out and didn't think to see if the few failures I hade werein the one cheapo mag I was using...

If you want to save yourself alot of headache, get a taper crimp.
They solve most feeding issues. I shoot a 625 with moon clips and it makes it much easier for a fast reload.
They also make things feed so much better in my Thompson, stick or drum mag. My caspian 1911 loves the taper crimp as well. I shoot mainly cast lead bullets, but you will get the same results if not better with FMJ's.

JM

if you are shooting competition with them, why would you use 230 grainers?? You get a much lighter felt recoil with 185 or 200's.

I run 1.24 on my 200 grain RN and 185 grain flat nose. When I load up my 185 grain hollow points I will experiment with OAL so I can run the velocities up higher without affecting feeding issue. I run a very light crimp using the bullet seating die. I'm using Hornady dies Zero feed issus on XD 45's and Glocks.

Just went and measured some factory ammo for ya as a comparison. Pulled 4 of each type out of its respective box as a sample. All is .45 cal 230 gr. ball.

Military issue IMI (uses PMC brass).

1.2670
1.2700
1.2705
1.2690

Winchester White Box

1.2685
1.2685
1.2675
1.2695

Blazer Brass

1.2635
1.2635
1.2625
1.2630

Hope this helps a bit.

if you are shooting competition with them, why would you use 230 grainers?? You get a much lighter felt recoil with 185 or 200's.


Cause I had 5000 of these ;) Down to my last 500 to load and use this next match, then I am off to the LRN 200's...

Just went and measured some factory ammo for ya as a comparison. Pulled 4 of each type out of its respective box as a sample. All is .45 cal 230 gr. ball.

Military issue IMI (uses PMC brass).

1.2670
1.2700
1.2705
1.2690

Winchester White Box

1.2685
1.2685
1.2675
1.2695

Blazer Brass

1.2635
1.2635
1.2625
1.2630

Hope this helps a bit.

Hmmm, maybe I am a little too deep? Dunno if that would cause this issue though.

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Is it weird that these pics get me excited?! :laughing:

I might be bringing something with me when I move to Cali on Tuesday that might have a home with someone else shortly. Might you be willing to wait until I'm there for good in a week to find out? :D

If those pics were of my loads, I would be backing off the crimp, personally. I slowly dial in until all of the belling is removed, and then add just a *hair* more.

However, I agree with Chris. It doesn't look excessive - it doesn't jump out at me as "Damn! That will never run!" It's just a little more than I like personally.

Are you certain that the failed rounds were all case gauged? If so, I'd strongly echo your idea to start looking at magazines.

pull your barrel out of your gun.grab a factory round and one you loaded.put each round in the chamber and see how it fits.if it fits fine i think you have a mag. problem.you may try your oal. adjustment, may help but try a different mag and see if it helps.oh yeah what kind of gun and and what type of mag.

Is it weird that these pics get me excited?! :laughing:

I might be bringing something with me when I move to Cali on Tuesday that might have a home with someone else shortly. Might you be willing to wait until I'm there for good in a week to find out? :D

:grinpimp: BTW, I have a new phone number, I will PM it to you.

Are you certain that the failed rounds were all case gauged? If so, I'd strongly echo your idea to start looking at magazines.

I do spot checking on the case guaging, usually 10 or so per 100 loaded. I am pretty sure it was a magazine at this point

pull your barrel out of your gun.grab a factory round and one you loaded.put each round in the chamber and see how it fits.if it fits fine i think you have a mag. problem.you may try your oal. adjustment, may help but try a different mag and see if it helps.oh yeah what kind of gun and and what type of mag.

Funny you should say that, I jsut did that last night when I cleaned it. Tried about 50 or so rounds left form that batch and every single one was fine. I think it had to be a cheap mag. I had 8 Chip McCormicks on the bench and then 1 or 2 no name no brand $5 gun show mags.

Gun is a Sig Sauer Revolution XO 1911

Why didn't you tell us it was a 1911? There's your problem. :D

i have a couple of chips mags and they are just ok.the only good aftermarket mag not just imop but really is a wilsonrogers or are they just wilson now.