well my old rig had a bit of a power steering leak......and a driveshaft malfunction the last time out, so it was time to fix things up :D
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all of this work has been done in my driveway..... my garage is basically a toolbox, and my bender is a few blocks away on a slab in my parents back yard :homer: so the tube bending process was a pain....

this was one of the last trips out.....it had a good life
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everything else is just the same as all the other yj builds......
60/14 bolt
turbo 400
203/205 with lowmax
42's
you know..the usuall

this is the best i could come up with for outboarding the springs.....keeps the ride height and pinion angle pretty reasonable
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/timmayjeep/Picture797.jpg

rear frame section
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started bending a bit of tube
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more in a minute

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at this point maybe you can see why the old rig got retired......
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lucky for me it was an organ donor
ive never really found a way to tie in the a pillar......so just a simple one will do
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so this is where planning ahead for the upper link frame mounts would pay off.....but i think it will work just fine.
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starting to look like something now
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the rear is close to what i think ride height is going to be.....the rest of it should be about an inch lower than the grey one.
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at this point the previous rig is looking pretty lame.....
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I like it,keep the pics coming.

Nice work. I saw your post in gen. 4x4 its the little things anyway nice work on the frame. I like the way you frenched the shackle mounts in. I'll be following this build.

Very nice!

looks good so far.

good luck

Very nice!

Makes me think i should get back to work on mine

wow looks good....and your drive way looks like mine!!!

Is there any chance you can take an under shot of the front rear french? It looks great.

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/timmayjeep/Picture718.jpg

welding wasnt real great on it so i didnt post it :homer:

Man this this thing is gonna be cool.

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welding wasnt real great on it so i didnt post it :homer:


Oh yeah....your welds look like shit.....:flipoff2: If those are shitty welds, I would like to see what you consider a good weld. I will using a couple of your ideas on my rebuild.

thanks.

i post some of this stuff as a way to trade for the ideas that i have borrowed. giving back what ive taken :D ill try to get some pictures of the latest progress as soon as i get some time.

man those are some clean welds.......and top notch fab work. Looks great

got a bit more done today until it threatened to rain in my shop......that has no roof or walls
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pretty simple shock mount, supported from the bottom so hopefully it wont peel off of there
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i really didnt want to cut too much out of the floor..... just no room for those heavy ass cases that tried to kill me when i was putting them in with a floor jack :homer:
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here you can see my custom dash......going to have a spot for some gauges and an ignition switch....but thats it, nice and simple
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ride height is getting down where i like it with a few more pounds added
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tomorrows a bit of wiring, few fuel lines, front shock mounts then im going to back it out in the street and see if it peels out :D

This build is awesome especially for being in your drieway. i wish my good welds looked like you bad ones. What kind of welder are you using

an old snap on welder ive had for a while...can be seen in garage...but i would trade it for a miller-matic any day.

Really nice build so far. I'm looking at getting a millermatic next summer. just picked up one of those harbor frieght ones to tinker with and learn to lay a good bead.

whats the height from the ground to the top of the cage or top of windsheild(highest point) seeing if a build like this will allow me to run 42's and still fit int the garage

74.5" to the top of the cage.

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Billy

Defiantly a rig to be proud of. I like it.:smokin:

like it, but why leaves in the front still?

in my opinion leaf springs make for a stable rig without getting too complicated or expensive. expensive being the key word right now. the old rig flexed just enough, and the front end stayed down when it got steep without the aid of a suckdown winch...... which is the only thing i dont like about rigs that are linked in the front

but give it a year and im sure those springs will be in the shed. but for now im keeping this build simple so i can get back out on the trail before winter hits and it gets down in the 60's :D

threw a seat in it.... im 6' and have at least 6" above my head when sitting in this thing, nice and low. i like it
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one of the last times i wheeled the grey jeep and i was winching out of a situation, i noticed the dash moving away from the cage when started to winch, so i added this to try and stiffin things up a bit. goes through the firewall and ties into the cage.
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and i think it will hold some shocks. wouldnt take much to mount some coilovers or airshocks on it in the future
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this was from the previous "build" but id recomend anyone who has a 14 bolt to take the time to make it a 13 bolt. well worth it. i plated the bottom with 1/2" and it has about an 1/8" between the 4.56 ring gear and the plate. i have drug this across about every rock at katemcy with no issues. the leak is from the pinion seal.

also notice the ballistic diff cover, apparently the welder on duty was having a bad day when he stuck the skull on there. i left it like that for some character

Yeah leafs are simple and when you've already got them and not the money to link it makes good sense. That and you can get back to wheelin. Whos jeep is in the background?

Hey! You're skull is upside down. Sarcasm! I thought it was funny when I saw it.

thats my girlfriends rig in the background......quite possibly the true reason im doing all this. built her rig after i built mine. and hers worked better.......just cant have that.

Love the new lines!! Looks awesome and I hope to someday do something like this!!---------Kyle

Did you turn down the ring gear at all? How much clearance did you gain after plating it. I am debating having mine turned down vs leaving it 10.5" and plating vs just grinding down the lip.

Looking good, love the dash:D

only really gained a little more than an inch clearance but its smooth on the bottom which has helped a lot

tim i'm always impressed with your work, keep plugging away and i'm lookin forward to seein the finished product!
one question tho....any hopes of this one being inspectable like g's?

everything is inspectable when your an inspector :D.....but for that reason i gotta make sure everything is there and functioning on my own stuff. but i do think its gonna hit the streets sometime soon. to pick up groceries and such

only really gained a little more than an inch clearance but its smooth on the bottom which has helped a lot

Looks like you have tested out the cover pretty well. Ever had any issues with leaking?

not from the cover or the plate on bottom. i winched it down a rock about 30 feet with the rear tires not even touching the ground and thought for sure it would have peeled off or something.....but no issues. and im no professional welder

ive always had hell keeping all the bolts tight on my tranfer cases and mounts......i always blamed my non balanced front driveshaft. time will tell if i was right.

jess at high angle driveline ( onetoncv on here) came up with this ......and it took less than a week to get to my door. VERY impressed with it, from the price to the beefcake slip material......holy crap! it was even better than i expected. and for a couple hunded bucks less than any other place ive found.
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not much new other than it drives now :D hope to have it ready to wheel by sunday afternoon.
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man ppl werent kidding when they said you dont mess around !!! looking good man , you have officially built a new rig in the time its taking me to do my rear skins and swap 14bolts !!! hahahah looks good dude

ive run High angle shafts since beginning of 05 and have had GREAT luck with them . I see it as $$ well spent man.

high 5 on the good work friend ..
lata
Ryan

damn nice rig

its looking good-Jess

I love what you did on the rear shackle mounts. I wish I saw your work before I did mine. It would have given me more balls to do something similar rather than the cop-out I did. The only difference is my shackles would have required an inch or two more offset to the outside. that would be a little more tricky in the reinforcement of the frame but not impossible. The fact that the front shackles on my rig are limiting how low I can get the stance is killing me. I might be cutting mine apart soon after finishing it just to do something like what you did.

Great build, great fab, great time management.:smokin:

heres what i did on my girls rig the keep it nice and low...... 88 model ford 60... which has to be really outboarded. and i stretched it to where the front driveshaft could stay the same length as stock
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t311/jackson76550/g-ride/Picture074.jpg

i have had 2 other designs on my old rig before i came up with these and......well notice i didnt post pics. :D so every cool thing i come up with....theres a handfull of fails

Looking good Tim. Cant wait to get back to TX so we cold go wheeling again

well the rain has been great......but it makes it hard to go outside and use power tools....and weld...in comfort at least ..so i didnt get near as much done as i wanted to this weekend. got the skidplate done, shifters mounted and worked on the boatsides.
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i laid a bit of sheetmetal on top between the two tubes to kinda show my plan for a step.....or whatever it is. it will have a few dimpled holes but nothing too fancy
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need to cap off the back somehow. the boatside is 1/8th" and it has 1.5" .120 wall square tube along the bottom and the supports to the frame. tried to make it semi beefy without going too heavy. i expect the plate will dent.....but i made sure it could be replaced in the future.
not the best boatsides ive ever seen as far as clearance goes......but they should work out

going to hit the scales sometime this week to see what it weighs.....any ideas?

what kinda muffler did you end up going with buddy?

a glasspack......it sounds pretty crappy. need to order up some of them fancy mufflers like you have.

It looks like you can cut a little more out of the tunnel and remove the t-cases through the door opening with an engine hoist. Much easier and safer than trying to do it with a floor jack. You can always make a new tunnel to cover it all up.

when it comes time to take them out.....thats what i had planned on doing.

well i got it done enough for a little shakedown run......the only two problems were being a little low on trans fluid and fuel. :shaking: one thing i really like is that i can see all 4 tires, the rear diff and both rear links. so when it gets hung up.....i dont have to ask for help.

finished up the boatsides
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got to test them out a bit.....didnt even fall off.... a proud moment :D
came up with a skidplate and an exit for the exhaust
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the belly is 20" at the lowest point and its a pretty low slung rig. but thats actually better than the previous model
you can kinda see the rear storage and ummmm....lightweight dash
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ony person i could get to go wheeling with me was doug......which hurt my self esteem a bit.....but bigger tires and a few hundred more horsepower can do that to a person
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it feels REALLY stable when things get steep, which i know is gonna get me in trouble.......almost defies gravity :flipoff2:
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and an awesome 5 second vid. seriously dont waste your time unless your really bored
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/timmayjeep/th_Picture858.jpg (http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/timmayjeep/?action=view&current=Picture858.flv)

now im going to try and fix some pictures on here

I want my 5 seconds back!:flipoff2: J/K, seriously though you dont fuck around with a build. I like it. Where did you do the shakedown run at?

you still have any work to do to top g's rig?

How much up travel do you have in the front?
Do you think you could lower it any more?

it could be lower....but it just wouldnt work good on the trails around here. id say it gets 6" uptravel in the front at times.

the pics were at hidden falls in marble falls

i opted to waste my time and watch your video , it was worth it though because i got to see your head !!

u gonna be at the new place at the end of october?

Great work on the boatsides. Im trying to do alot of what you did there with the boatsides, but I will be dovetailing my tub instead of backhalfing it all.


Could ya snap a few pics or explain how the boatsides meet up with the tub and how close you get them to the body mounts?

What did you do with the floor of the tub? Welded to the boatsides?

yeah im gonna check out the new place......try to run the race. should be a good time either way.

boatsides.....
ill try and get some pics, basically there is some 1.5" suare tube that runs down the length of the bottom with supports going to the frame every foot or so that are even with the bottom of the body mounts. the top is welded to the cage. i left a 1" gap at the floor of the tub.....which cant even be seen... so i can clean everything out with a waterhose

Are you planning on putting any skins on the rear section or just going to run it as is?

right now i think its just going to stay the way it is. in the past ive been hell on sheetmetal so i dont want to spend too much time on the body just to go tear it up.

with that being said ive been spending too much time doing bodywork and paint prep :D

decided to go with a color similar to orange :D
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ohhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaauuuh . i like it man
what is the actual color you got going on there ... like paint brand and color ?

hell now if we ever get bored wheeling , we can join the show circuit .

Thats a nice color.

its valspar kubota orange. :D

daaaaaaaaaang , tractor paint .... You aint never gonna get that there jeep stuck if you got tractor stuff on it

VERY NICE DESIGN WORK! I really like the frenched shackle mount. Sometimes it amazes me how someone will come along and do something so cool and simple to solve a common problem. Thanks for the great idea.

Nice looking rig. I really like the rocker guards too.

Looking awesome!

Nice build and the tube work is really clean. Also like they way you still run leaves with the air shocks.

Where are the wheeling pics?!

Man, that thing looks great! What material did you use on the frenched shackle hangar mount on the frame? All plate? Rect. tube? lil of both?

i dont have many pics.......my wheeling buddies fail with the pics. but its been doing good. had to put some different headers on it and get creative with the exhaust.


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even ran a race with it...... had a little oil leak on the exhaust....and a big hole in it from the driveshaft.....(guess this thing wasnt designed to jump :laughing:) .....so it kinda sounds shitty.
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Man, that thing looks great! What material did you use on the frenched shackle hangar mount on the frame? All plate? Rect. tube? lil of both?

some of it was 2"x4" tube....the rest was just plate

had that rig been to pluckers in killeen? It looks familiar. but I'm usually drunk by the time I leave there and everything has gotten fuzzy. :D I might be wrong.

nope hasnt been there...... i may haul it up there next thursday though

bit of an update. rig has been working great! havent even rolled it :D
its crazy stable and for low speed stuff i could only really complain about front axle wrap. but for anything half fast and bumpy.....it just sucks.

as soon as i finished this thing a lot of my wheeling buddies had been getting into the semi local races and it looks like a blast..... i wanted in! the class im interested in requires a stock frame to the rear of the seat and an oem appearance..... thats basically the only rules. i think i can make it work out

plans are to have kind of a dual purpose rig....it definately wont be a racer but id like to be able to try a little.

add bit of tube work

3 link front

new and improved shocks front and rear

hmmmm.....guess that was my only goal at this point


the a pillar always bugged me on this thing.....thought the bend was to high.... so i fixed that
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i sleeved the tube where i cut it and filed it down smooth.....think block sanding after body work.... only much less fun. but now you cant see where it was cut
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heres the front at full bump
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not a big fan of what i did behind the seats...... maybe it could use more triangulation? haha either way.....its stayin there
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i tried and tried but i just couldnt package the radiator and track bar at the same time. so i did a little cutting
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had to notch the drivers side to get the bolt in
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and the budget buster! had to wait a whole 3 days after i ordered the oris
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i still need to brace the shock hoops......maybe give some kind of radiator protection while im at it

so now all i really need to be competitive is.......better tires, more power...few driving lessons......more money

VERY nice welds. Great job.

nice!!!! :smokin:

Awesome, it gets better :smokin:

and the hood actually fits :eek: BARELY
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drove it around just a little bit and im already pretty sure the oris are going to work awesome.

Awsome build! Im loving Stage 3!

Your jeep looks very cool. I like the look and the stance of it. Great job. And by the way...you welds kick a$$.

eh......maybe the welding pigeons around here fly lower or something. that and a few of the welds arent pictured for a reason :D

Really interested to hear what you think of the ORI's. I wont get my rig put together for another month or so. I have 4- 14" ORI's awaiting instalation.
Rig looks really good.
JM

i have driven it around some. and im already impressed with the oris. im pretty certain i could do do-nuts on dry pavement with just a hint of body roll... :D but at the same time its a smooth ride. which is great.... because i had to sell a few things to afford them :homer:

is there any updates to this

one update.......
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:D
just got back from a race this weekend with the new motor. its pretty fast. even faster with the nitrous :flipoff2: hopefully some pictures surface. ruined a tire, and broke all the bolts off the left drive flange (dodge hubs)

been so busy i havent had much seat time with it, did some shock tuning after the race which helped a ton. need to get the idle up a bit to help with steering assist at idle and a few misc. issues. but other than that it has been taking a beating. the oris have continued to be awesome.

Thats quite the update...:laughing:

Love this rig and attention to the basics not all the frills

damn man - what do you do for work? your welds are amazing!

one update.......
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/timmayjeep/Picture2124.jpg
:D
just got back from a race this weekend with the new motor. its pretty fast. even faster with the nitrous :flipoff2: hopefully some pictures surface. ruined a tire, and broke all the bolts off the left drive flange (dodge hubs)

been so busy i havent had much seat time with it, did some shock tuning after the race which helped a ton. need to get the idle up a bit to help with steering assist at idle and a few misc. issues. but other than that it has been taking a beating. the oris have continued to be awesome.

what kind of nos kit are you using. it sounds like you have a nuff power

what kind of nos kit are you using. it sounds like you have a nuff power

you can never have enough power. I absolutely love my nitrous. :D running a 100 hp wet shot? i know guys that run 200 hp wet shots on stock 5.3 with no issues.

funny story about nitrous. on the previous motor (305) we basically zip tied a bottle to the cage and wired a handheld button. the jets installed were somewhere in the range of oh.......200 hp :laughing: really kinda just wanted to kill that old motor but ran out of nitrous......the 305 lives on. it was a lot of fun and that thing made serious power on the bottle

even tried widowmaker at trees on the bottle

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its a nitrous express wet kit. for the first run out i just have a little ol 70 shot on it. it doesnt make huge difference....but you can definately tell its faster. so the bigger pills will go in very soon :D

i havent needed it on the trail yet......just for goofing off and drag racing at this point.

you can kinda see it in this pic. along with my upper radiator hose :homer:
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the engine is a few inches further forward than i like......basically to have decent driveline lengths with the doubler. it was a pain to get it all to fit. so i think the 203 box will go away here in the near future.

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43" sx's showed up today..... nasty looking tires. id say almost 3" taller than my 42" iroks......the iroks are well worn.

i kinda just felt like rubbing it in.......all the cool rigs here make me jealous. your turn! :flipoff2:

mmm


stickies!!!

Nice Cage Re-Do

can you take some close up pics of your 3 and 4 link mounting. looks super clean and i'd like to use your ideas.

mmm


stickies!!!

Are they?

nope not sticky. very happy with them though.

ill see if i have any pictures of the 3 and 4 link mounts... pretty standard stuff though