I was just it the Cliffs and had a great time. I am so proud of my wife. She drove all the way up the Carnage trail but had to winch out the top. I know that is not saying alot but it was the first real trail she ever did. The jeep is just a 4 banger 5 speed with opens front and back on 33s. It was an awsome day. I mite have to buy another jeep. I just had to tell some of you out there.:)

thats cool i am heading there with some toyotas on the 12th.

We just left there, talk about a muddy mess!

what kind of trails are you gonna be hitting have never been there
and wanting to check it out

I was out there monday with a group of guys, i was in a red yj on 35's

what kind of trails are you gonna be hitting have never been there
and wanting to check it out


lots of muddy trails

This is from sunday

And that was after two weeks of no or little rain.

i was there in a group with mostly XJ and some TJ and a old CJ.

was pretty fun!

i was using my white doorless XJ with "HeeP" on the hood with some black vents if you saw me at least :D

thats fuggin ridiculous! i am not going there:eek:

thats fuggin ridiculous! i am not going there:eek:

what a wuss :flipoff2:

dave lives there and wont go... why would i drive half again the distance to badlands to get stuck in the mud and not be able to camp?:shaking:

for dave, what he said, he dont like mud, which is some personal perferences. mud dont bother me, it a part of fun. badland have lot of more drier trails and more rocks, which many wheelers seem to prefer as they stay much cleaner.

and we wont leave you stuck in mud! we will tug you out and keep going to have fun! i never got stuck in mud actually, only time i got stuck that the hill's just too steep and slippery or some hill that's so sharp that my belly kept get hung up and stop me from going forward, but i can go back though

for real do they turn you away for loud exhaust?

i dont want to turn this thread into a flaming each other

but how do u know i have loud exhaust? at first i had nothing (pretty much almost a open header as it was cut out at where the cat was) but i never went wheeling with it like that, i just installed a Flowmaster super 44 to help some with loudness.

one hard drop on my belly on my jeep at cliffs actually did something to the F44 which made it not so "muffling" as well before the hard slam, hmm

however im deaf if you dont know, which loudness often dont bother me.... but can be a problem to some others though


for real do they turn you away for loud exhaust?

uhh what? on the website, it has like a specific decebel level that you must meet...

uhh what? on the website, it has like a specific decebel level that you must meet...

They will check you if it is too loud. in the beginning they checked every rig that came in. not so much any more. it is geared more towards the quads and bikes

thats what i figured but i wasnt sure
do they just have some db meter? where do they read from? last year out community college hosted a loud exhast competition at a car show and about the 5th vehicle in their meter rolled craps:laughing: it was not a cheap one either
anyway they were measuring 6" from the exhaust tip... i think it should be like 6ft behind the vehicle but thats just my $.02

The last few times we were there the only thing the dude at the gate asked was if we had beer. Didn't check my tires, didn't listen to my exhaust. The rules are pretty relaxed. I don't like mud! But found a way to have fun.

I just dont like mud... mud is dirty :flipoff2:

Also, I wheeld there fer almost 3 years every damn weekend. i had my fun in the mud. done...

Its a good time tho. They have rules??? when did that start? :laughing:



Yall can camp at my place. i dont care. and rip up the rocks

Aww come on Dave mud isn't as dirty as the hoes in Martucky you are chasing. It is alot of fun there, but I like mud. Too bad they won't let me bring my red truck there. They have some people working for them that are picky about the rules but most aren't.

Aww come on Dave mud isn't as dirty as the hoes in Martucky you are chasing. It is alot of fun there, but I like mud. Too bad they won't let me bring my red truck there. They have some people working for them that are picky about the rules but most aren't.
:laughing::laughing::laughing:

see!? i have plenty of dirty in my life :smokin:

ooo how far are you from the park?
picks of your driveway please!

Less than 10min away

here some old pics...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=788071

ooo how far are you from the park?
picks of your driveway please!

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq102/NT2HLBLY/1253059487.jpg

that was taken today. as u can see, i'm making it bigger every chance i get! :dustin:

oooo nice:smokin:
i want to play now!:D

EDIT: what do you move them with?

:tank: I unload um and move um around with that old white dodge i deliverd ur oil pan in :tank:

awesome

those rocks are small thats only a 16 foot trailer haha what did that one weigh?

I just dont like mud... mud is dirty :flipoff2:

Also, I wheeld there fer almost 3 years every damn weekend. i had my fun in the mud. done...

Its a good time tho. They have rules??? when did that start? :laughing:



Yall can camp at my place. i dont care. and rip up the rocks



Next time i go to the cliffs, i'm gonna make it a point to find your place, drink beer and show you how to drive over that gravel pile..i mean rock garden! :D:beer:

your jeep doesent count, it is a "leaf spring only" rock garden:flipoff2:

Next time i go to the cliffs, i'm gonna make it a point to find your place, drink beer and show you how to drive over that gravel pile..i mean rock garden! :D:beer:

Any time! Ill buy a beer fer the first guy that makes it :flipoff2:

those rocks are small thats only a 16 foot trailer haha what did that one weigh?

It an 18ft trailer with a 1 1/2ft dove :shaking:

that was a small rock tho. Only 7000lbs

for real do they turn you away for loud exhaust?

Yes i was told not to come back till I re did my exhaust . 350 sbc hedders ,and straights.
uhh what? on the website, it has like a specific decebel level that you must meet...

They will check you if it is too loud. in the beginning they checked every rig that came in. not so much any more. it is geared more towards the quads and bikes

They are working on doing it more. But yes it is geared to quads... With crazy noise

thats what i figured but i wasnt sure
do they just have some db meter? where do they read from? last year out community college hosted a loud exhast competition at a car show and about the 5th vehicle in their meter rolled craps:laughing: it was not a cheap one either
anyway they were measuring 6" from the exhaust tip... i think it should be like 6ft behind the vehicle but thats just my $.02

They have a db meter there yes.
The last few times we were there the only thing the dude at the gate asked was if we had beer. Didn't check my tires, didn't listen to my exhaust. The rules are pretty relaxed. I don't like mud! But found a way to have fun.

They are not that relaxed so don't say they are. The 39.5" Tire rule ,and the noise is becoming more enforced than it was. Things are being torn up to much so I am told.

lame

They are not that relaxed so don't say they are. The 39.5" Tire rule ,and the noise is becoming more enforced than it was. Things are being torn up to much so I am told.


I pull up into the parking lot. Us in the truck, Jeep on the trailer. Dude drives over in his toyota. "Hi, got any coolers"...Nope "Got any Beer"...Nope "Alright, have a good time."

I was their 2 weeks ago. Its always the same experience when we go.

We show up in a NICE truck, with a NICE trailer, and a Nice Jeep, We don't ack like idiots, we don't (try to) tear things up.

The owners buddies were wheeling there and were on 44's. (Think they get shit for it, no)

What were you doing when you hot harassed??

lame


Funky

If you wanna go, you can roll with us. I'll PM you next time we go.

I pull up into the parking lot. Us in the truck, Jeep on the trailer. Dude drives over in his toyota. "Hi, got any coolers"...Nope "Got any Beer"...Nope "Alright, have a good time."

I was their 2 weeks ago. Its always the same experience when we go.

We show up in a NICE truck, with a NICE trailer, and a Nice Jeep, We don't ack like idiots, we don't (try to) tear things up.

The owners buddies were wheeling there and were on 44's. (Think they get shit for it, no)

What were you doing when you hot harassed??

the crew rolln on the 44s and have way to much tube around their rig are the special kids! They do alot of work there.
They are an alrite bunch, exept for that one guy :flipoff2: you know who u are :flipoff2: :laughing:

they realy are good there just dont b a jack off!

Sam, if u wana rip up the cliffs im in... Yeah i know MUD!!! :eek:

hey didn't you just buy a bunch of tube to put around your rig? that bunch of guys are the ones that recover other peoples broke or stuck rigs and they also helped build the place so they get to bend the rules a bit. if everyone went out there on 44's and a heavy foot it wouldn't be as fun for the guys with smaller tires and would pretty much suck.

hey didn't you just buy a bunch of tube to put around your rig? that bunch of guys are the ones that recover other peoples broke or stuck rigs and they also helped build the place so they get to bend the rules a bit. if everyone went out there on 44's and a heavy foot it wouldn't be as fun for the guys with smaller tires and would pretty much suck.

Shhh! What tube!?

Thats what i was hintn at with that crew. Just didnt feel like typn it all :shaking:

hey didn't you just buy a bunch of tube to put around your rig? that bunch of guys are the ones that recover other peoples broke or stuck rigs and they also helped build the place so they get to bend the rules a bit. if everyone went out there on 44's and a heavy foot it wouldn't be as fun for the guys with smaller tires and would pretty much suck.

I BS'd with the guy on 44's with a green CJ.......Nice dude. Ran into him a few times. He was always willing to help if needed.

I have NO issues with that group. I was merely referring to the tire size "rule".

i will definatly let ya'll know when we go... it looks like the next trip will be to hannibal then who knows after that....

if its all mud, i might throw the hawgs back on...:laughing:

o wait... the sidewall says there a 1/2 inch too tall... thats funny the tape measure reads a little less... will that be ok?

or is it narrow like redbird... those haws are WIDE!! :eek:

Wide ass boggers are the tire of choice there. I never had a problem with my narrow tires tho.

It gets narrow in some spots

I pull up into the parking lot. Us in the truck, Jeep on the trailer. Dude drives over in his toyota. "Hi, got any coolers"...Nope "Got any Beer"...Nope "Alright, have a good time."

I was their 2 weeks ago. Its always the same experience when we go.

We show up in a NICE truck, with a NICE trailer, and a Nice Jeep, We don't ack like idiots, we don't (try to) tear things up.

The owners buddies were wheeling there and were on 44's. (Think they get shit for it, no)

What were you doing when you hot harassed??

I wasn't harrassed. I wheeled the day but was asked to come back with smaller tires. Also had a tierd v8 with straight pipe. It wasn't loud ,and I didn't drive like an idiot. My friend was the one to talk to me ,and ask that of me. I have been going there 3-4 years. I know steve the owner ,and most the regulars.



the crew rolln on the 44s and have way to much tube around their rig are the special kids! They do alot of work there.
They are an alrite bunch, exept for that one guy :flipoff2: you know who u are :flipoff2: :laughing:

they realy are good there just dont b a jack off!

Sam, if u wana rip up the cliffs im in... Yeah i know MUD!!! :eek:

Yea The two jeeps on 44's bend the rules. They maintain the park ,and pull people out . One has been going there since the beginning of the park so he's sorta grandfathered.

hey didn't you just buy a bunch of tube to put around your rig? that bunch of guys are the ones that recover other peoples broke or stuck rigs and they also helped build the place so they get to bend the rules a bit. if everyone went out there on 44's and a heavy foot it wouldn't be as fun for the guys with smaller tires and would pretty much suck.

I BS'd with the guy on 44's with a green CJ.......Nice dude. Ran into him a few times. He was always willing to help if needed.

I have NO issues with that group. I was merely referring to the tire size "rule".

But the reason the tire size is what it is , is most guys out there have smaller sami's and little rigs. The big tires "tear it up" I have 42" sx'2 and bought them knowing i would no longer be able to wheel there. Oh well so be it.

Jeepnazi I am just saying don't go there with 44's and think they are ok . At some point somebody will mention it . Wether pulling in or unloading.

Dead horse :shaking::shaking:

if its all mud, i might throw the hawgs back on...:laughing:

o wait... the sidewall says there a 1/2 inch too tall... thats funny the tape measure reads a little less... will that be ok?



Yea, they wont care - I wheeled there quite a few times with my 40" groundhawgs.

The noise restriction was a concern of the neighbors and one of teh stipulations for the permit. If the noise gets out of hand htey will be shut down.

nt2hlbly, I think I stopped by your place a year or two ago, we had just left the park and were driving around, do you live south of town out by the military base?

nt2hlbly, I think I stopped by your place a year or two ago, we had just left the park and were driving around, do you live south of town out by the military base?

sure! was there big rocks in my driveway???