DYI york+starter

[groundloopdog]

Any one have any picture of a york+starter motor being used as a moble aircompressor?

[some zilch]

can a starter be used that continuously?

[chevihemi]

How about a winch motor?

[76scoutman]

Basically you're wanting something like what Oasis Mfg makes.

http://oasismfg.thomasnet.com/category/air-compressors?

[Todd W]

How about a winch motor?

Winch motors are just starter motors I believe. As far as them being able to run continuously that probably has to do with their cooling.

[472Scout]

Basically you're wanting something like what Oasis Mfg makes.

http://oasismfg.thomasnet.com/category/air-compressors?

Damn. 180 amps at max load for the XD3000-12. :eek: Good output though. 8 CFM @ 100 psi.

[guidolyons]

Mud in the Blood made one:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6929120&postcount=15

Redneck Oasis:
Got a York 210 run by a SBC starter motor (chain drive) mounted in the bed, back bumper is the tank (2gal ?) and I LOVE IT! will run an air grinder! I have been using this for over a year now and still have not burnt up the $26.99 re-man starter on it:smokin:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=311066&stc=1&d=1182535326

Same guy:
This is what I use, and it kicks ass!!! I built it my self (Oasis as the insperation) and I can run the impact right off the compressor NO PROBLEM! Yeah, it pulls some amps, but it's as fast as CO2, and I never have to re-fill it:smokin: And yes, I use it all the time and no the motor is not burnig up on it. Cost me about $120 to build it.


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4853812&postcount=24

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=219012&stc=1&d=1134469746

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=219011&stc=1&d=1134469590

[dopeassjackson]

thats a sweet setup. keeps it out of the engine bay.

[Todd W]

thats a sweet setup. keeps it out of the engine bay.

FOR SURE!

Now I just need to find a spare starter to go wtih my spare york and I think I`m gonna make me a lil 12v mobile compressor!
I wonder how much torque the york needs... maybe could run two for 2x the CFM :)

[dopeassjackson]

how long can you run this compressor with out killing the battery?

[Todd W]

how long can you run this compressor with out killing the battery?

:confused: which one

[beartj]

I think I know the answer (no) but just to be sure...do you all use unloaders like as found on most shop compressors on setups like these?

[dopeassjackson]

i see the pressure switch. im talking about airing up tires to street pressure.

[braxton357]

how long can you run this compressor with out killing the battery?


How long can you turn your normal starter over without killing the battery? Not a whole lot longer than that...

Why would you want to run it with the engine off when airing up your tires?

[Travis Waldher]

How long can you turn your normal starter over without killing the battery? Not a whole lot longer than that...

Why would you want to run it with the engine off when airing up your tires?

drawing 180 amps, even with the engine running you will draw down your batteries.

[PTSchram]

How are they oiling the compressor? Don't the Yorks need continuous oiling?

[dopeassjackson]

How are they oiling the compressor? Don't the Yorks need continuous oiling?
they have a crank case style of oiling.

an engine driven pump isnt really possible with my setup.

[braxton357]

drawing 180 amps, even with the engine running you will draw down your batteries.

True, but my alt will put out 120 amps with the engine idled up, so it's still better than just draining the batteries. I mounted my compressor to the engine, so no worries here. :D

[76scoutman]

I think I know the answer (no) but just to be sure...do you all use unloaders like as found on most shop compressors on setups like these?

I would run one, or at least some sort of bleeder. Depending on how you power it from your truck you could really spike some amps starting under the back pressure of the compressor. It may not be a problem tho. When I did my OBA setup I found an inline check valve that had a bleed off hole in it so it was a couple of tasks in one piece. Some pressure switches also have an unloader.

I have the compressor and all the plumbing and got a starter, now I just need to put it all together. :p

[uglyscout]

How are they oiling the compressor? Don't the Yorks need continuous oiling?

They do in theory. I run one on my truck that gets a little oil added to it every couple years... keeps plugging along fine. They blow oil by as you use them so adding oil depends on how much you run it.

[PTSchram]

They do in theory. I run one on my truck that gets a little oil added to it every couple years... keeps plugging along fine. They blow oil by as you use them so adding oil depends on how much you run it.

It was my understanding that the York compressors were continuously oiled by the oil in the A/C refrigerant. Those who I've known who used them in an OBA setup took the air for the intake to the compressor from the vehicle crankcase to scavenge oil vapor from the engine. I always thought that was kinda elegant. I wonder if an H-F filter/regulator/lubricator couldn't be used to lube the intake (obviously, discarding the filter OK, maybe you would want to filter the intake, but you wouldn't want the regulator on the intake).

I haven't had anything to do with a York compressor since I had a 1966 Mercury!:D

[ErikB]

As was mentioned, Yorks have their own crank case and the oil is separate from the air being pumped (though there is some blow-by).

[DanTheMan]

Does anyone know what electric motor Mud In The Blood used?

EDIT: On his V2 setup, not the starter.

[frostytj]

Does anyone know what electric motor Mud In The Blood used?

EDIT: On his V2 setup, not the starter.

I was under the impression he used a start motor for both the above setups. The 2nd set of pics and link above are dated 2005 so that would be version 1 I guess. This is post 26 of the linked thread.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4854847&postcount=26

It was ALOT eazyer to build than I thought it would be. I got a tecumse A/C comp. from a mid 70's Dodge motorhome, they don't send oil from the case to output like a York. The fitings on them are steel, so I just welded a fiting to the output side, and used a pice of hose to clamp a filter to the intake side. I tolk the cluch off and tore it down to just the hub, then I chucked that up in the drill press and cut/ground it down to just a sleeve. I got a set of spockets and some #50 chain (12T if I remember right) and welded 1 to sleeve, and got a 5/8" hub for the other. Then I orderd the motor (for a Ford 8N tractor 6V/12V) and the 200A continuious dutie solinoid from DB electrical rebuilders (dbelectrical.com/tractor/tractorstarter.shtml). Then I tolk a pice of 1/8" plate and bent it to a 90* big enough to fit the side of the comp. and mounted it with the stock holes, and cut a hole in the other side to fit the snout of the starter motor. I got a fixed pressure switch (on @90psi off @120psi) and mounted it to the plate as well. I ran a small line from the out put to the switch, and then wired it into the signal side of the solinoid, and a tolgle switch (mounted to the plate as well) And there U have it, BAM!!! Ass kickin' OBA. I could do a full write up w/pics. But I don't know where to do it here, and I'm not sharp enough with a computer to do it on mine and then up-load it some where

[85f150dsel]

Here is a nother good read:

http://www.hornwhistleboard.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=738&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=b71699cc42ea82b50ab0a5730b35350a

The guy from Oasis answers alot of questions. To get the continuous run time of a newer oasis, they have modfied the pistion rings, sump, head, and also a new style DC motor that has internal cooling.

I've been looking fro a while but haven't come across a AMD motor in my price range yet.