The Ruffstuff Toyota 8" Axle Housing!

[Gravel Maker]

We released our Toyota housings this past weekend at the Cantina for the 'Conn and the response we got to them was fantastic. I am much happier with it than I thought I would be, everything came out perfect (on the third attempt).

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_8inch1.JPG

Over 1000 people (by my count) checked them out, both the 9" and the Toyota 8", nobody at all had any suggestions for changes at all.

I think the best 2 responses we received on them were from a couple of big Toyota names. 1st was Marlin himself of Marlin Crawler, he played with it like he does and gave me his blessing. Marlin would have been my 1st choice to be my critic and he was entirely happy with the design and welding. I have known Marlin for around 5 years and there isn't anyone as Toyota smart out there.

The 2nd came from a suprising corner, John Robertson looked at it and asked the 20 question game and then said he wanted one for his own buggy. For those of you that don't know John, he is the sales Manager for TG. He even took 20 pics, I missed his 9am call today but I can call him back tommorrow about getting one.

And to answer a few questions for you guys.....

We cannot yet weld the knuckleballs simply because we haven't yet made the jig, it should be done tommorrow.

We didn't ever plan to weld in used knuckleballs when we can make a better version which we are doing and they should be done in about 3 - 5 weeks. The new balls are improved over stock in 4 ways. I am not going to share how til they are done but it should be obvious to you if you think about how they could be better. Also, as far as I have seen the knuckleballs are not being made anymore by anyone, if someone dosen't make them this axle will die, afterall, when was the last one made?

In the meantime if you need the knuckleballs in today we would weld in yours if you got to have them now.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_8inch3.JPG

I made the initial design for these housings 3+ years ago and then refined them over the next year or so. The last 2 years have been spent trying to find a bender capable of the accuracy needed to make the right. 2 1/2 months ago we found the right bender!


http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_8inch5.JPG


The design certainly reflects the base work done by Brian at Diamond but I tried to draw as much influence from a Chrispman (round trophy truck housing). I decided the round shape was better overall but Brian was on the right track with bends for reinforcement. Ours is a result of that mix, nearly round with the bends reinforcing each other every step of the way. And by bending the housing we were able to minimize the welds. I cannot say which shape is stronger but without destroying one of each and I am not going to do that.

The last thing I would like to mention is a touch about my point of view on production of a product like these. I don't really believe in custom, and who wants 3" x .25" tubes that so many companies advertise as their $399 price for an axle housing anyway? I believe in building something to outlast your needs so all of our housings have 3.5" x .375" tubes, all of our housings have a .375" faceplate, and all come in 1 length (in the case of the Toyota, 6" over stock) and can be cut to fit. When you add the fact that we make large batches of things at the same time you can see where costs' are saved.


http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_True%20bar%20full%20from%20side.jpg


Now about the actual construction of the housings. All of our center sections are prewelded 90% complete before the tubes even come near them. That part is pretty easy to test for accuracy, if they don't fit together without gap they aren't good enough. Then the tubes go in the jig and the center is fitted with a dummy third with truebar pucks instead of bearings. Then the Truebar is fitted through the tubes and center section. At that point we know welding will warp the housing so it is a carefully planned sequence of welding and cooling to allow the warp to settle and the housing to remain true. We have 3 substantial jigs that are Ibeam based for rigidity but having 3 allows our welders to keep working on at least 3 at a time but usually 6 as they are welding 3 more center sections as they weld the 3 in the jigs. The key here is rigidity, a sheet of .25" plate is not rigid....


http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_true%20bar%20lh%20view.jpg


All in all it has been a learning experience but really not as difficult as I expected (Beyond finding a bender), however it is taking ~ 1.5 hours longer each to weld than expected. We are paying attention to that time as we make more of them but we only have 45 housings out there but if the time isn't reduced by greater experience we will have to raise prices by about $70, time will tell.....And nobody should take this as a slight to Diamond Axles, I have great respect for the high quality and strength of a Diamond, this just gives you another option, we will introduce a Chromolly option in 4-6 months to go with these.....

BTW, I will post a pic of this axle next to a 9" tommorrow so you can see the scale....

[zidaro]

Oh god, your getting me excited Dan!

[Flatty]

Dan, do these come in a front design? Also, will you be selling the custom axle shafts, or are we on our own for those?


Dima

[Gravel Maker]

Oh god, your getting me excited Dan!

Its supposed to!

Dan, do these come in a front design? Also, will you be selling the custom axle shafts, or are we on our own for those?

Dima

I have been talking to Dean at Performance Cryogenics (hes about 10 miles away) and they should not be a problem.....:D And yes, we are making front axles also....:eek:

Here is the size difference of our Toy 8" to our Ford 9"....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_8inchto9inchcomptop.jpg

And a factory 8" besides ours....Ours is 6" over stock in this pic....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_8inchtoybigcomp.jpg

And a comparrison of the inside, not very much different, I didn't see any reason to change a good thing...

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_8inchto9inchcomparrison.jpg

The pics look a little off from where he was standing when he took them but the factory housing measures 10 1/8" at the tallest point and ours measures 9 1/2".....

[Mawnov]

Housing looks great! I'm waiting to see how much the new knuckle bals will run.

[Gravel Maker]

Housing looks great! I'm waiting to see how much the new knuckle bals will run.


The material is in but the machinist has to finish a big job for Aerojet before he can start but I would expect between $110-160, I know that its a little broad but lots to do on them.....They are stronger than stock in 4 ways, you can figure out how if you think about it long enough.....

[Mawnov]

so at $480 for the axle and lets say $160 for the knuckle ball or balls? Looks like a complete bare housing will run apx $550. or $800 if the $160 is per knuckle ball. Does that sound right to you Dan?

[Gravel Maker]

so at $480 for the axle and lets say $160 for the knuckle ball or balls? Looks like a complete bare housing will run apx $550. or $800 if the $160 is per knuckle ball. Does that sound right to you Dan?


But that is with NEW knuckleballs, not used like what you get today. And improved knuckleballs, not plain stock, substantially stronger. Capable of airtime:p

[dirtchicken]

It's probably too early in the game but what about a price on a housing with flanged ends for full floater?

[Gravel Maker]

It's probably too early in the game but what about a price on a housing with flanged ends for full floater?

Either you can wait for a full spindle/hub setup or we could do the TG unit bearing setup.....I will check prices on them tommorrow....

[dirtchicken]

By flanges I was refering to something like FROR makes to bolt a front spindle to for full floater. It would be nice to eliminate the bolt on adapter. I have all the front end parts to go full float. If I could get a beefier axle with the ends for spindles it would be the cats tit. The one reason I never went full float in the past was due the fact that I was confident in the stock housing bearing the weight of the truck.

[Gravel Maker]

Look at the front spindles, I was thinking you could do it stronger....

[DiscoDino]

I love you, but my wife hates you :flipoff2:

I'll call you soon to discuss...new balls, shaft and all :smokin:

Cheers,
Nadim

[Gravel Maker]

The afternoon is the slower time of day, give me a call and we can figure it out...

[Gravel Maker]

By flanges I was refering to something like FROR makes to bolt a front spindle to for full floater. It would be nice to eliminate the bolt on adapter. I have all the front end parts to go full float. If I could get a beefier axle with the ends for spindles it would be the cats tit. The one reason I never went full float in the past was due the fact that I was confident in the stock housing bearing the weight of the truck.


The other day and he has no problem selling me the flanged stubs but I think we will also make a weld in snout/spndle for the Toyota also, that would be less expensive in the end....

[dirtchicken]

The other day and he has no problem selling me the flanged stubs but I think we will also make a weld in snout/spndle for the Toyota also, that would be less expensive in the end....

Sweet to hear this. I will have some extra money burning a hole in my pockets in the next few months. I will keep you in mind.

[Gravel Maker]

Call when you are ready and we can talk it over....

[moveaside]

Nice to see this moving right along nice to see an idea on a napkin come into a reality. Looking forward to getting mine when available. Getting married on saturday does your website has a wedding registry:laughing:

[Gravel Maker]

Nice to see this moving right along nice to see an idea on a napkin come into a reality. Looking forward to getting mine when available. Getting married on saturday does your website has a wedding registry:laughing:

Good idea!

[nightcrawler]

Is there enough room to add spring perches on the passenger side of the front axle? What WMS to WMS if the axle is left uncut? Status on the knuckle-ball?

Rear axle application avail? Width? Flange availability?

Inquiring minds want to know. :D

[Gravel Maker]

Is there enough room to add spring perches on the passenger side of the front axle? What WMS to WMS if the axle is left uncut? Status on the knuckle-ball?

Rear axle application avail? Width? Flange availability?

Inquiring minds want to know. :D

We are designing a shoulder perch to go with these but it will be a few weeks before we get the time to finish them.

We can make the WMS whatever you wish...The most demand calls for 6" over stock.

We will be originally supplying flanged rears with Diamond flanges but we are making a FF rear hub application also but that will be November'ish...

My machinist is working on the fixture for the Knuckleballs. We are doing some interesting things with them and the fixture needs to be pretty complicated, he has asked for at least a week longer so the fixture is perfect. When machining parts you only get out what you put in. I told him the demand will be very high so he is building something that will make them easier and if I spend more on the fixture the finished product will be less expensive to make....

BTW, since we haven't started on the balls yet I found another way to improve Toyotas design :D We are up to 5 improvements over stock!

[66CJdean]

A weld on flange that accepts Chevy spindles, rotors, calipers, and hubs is easy. Forget putting toy stuff on the rear, go for something that is easy to find at U-jurk-it for cheap.

[LostIt]

is there any chance of a toyota 9.5" (landcruiser) housing in the future?

[Gravel Maker]

is there any chance of a toyota 9.5" (landcruiser) housing in the future?


It won't be tommorrow though, I need to add yet another welder first though. We have 5 welding stations, 1 is mine but I don't ever get a chance to sit down and we are way busy so I think I will have to give up mine before we add more work. We still have 1 more housing to add before we can consider the Cruiser axle, but I do have 3 Cruisers so it gets a little more thought than others....

[Gravel Maker]

The Big Hub/Spindle/Bearing combo (capable of up to 47 spline axles) should be completed Monday also. I won't go completely into their make-up til we show them off but they are a Monster BA setup that a trophy truck would be happy to have but you can actually afford (Great for the new 10.5 Toy axle).

The Toyota Birfield Bells are still 2-3 weeks out because the fixture is a serious PITA to make (but still doable) and we can't move ahead til its done but we are making a part that hasn't been made for 25+ years and improving it 5 ways in the process. You will be able to jump with these with no fear of breakage

We are also making another Toyota specific part that will be in demand but a couple of other projects are first in line....This part has never been made before....

Just an update, the wait is still around 5-6 days because we sold a bunch of these this week...

BTW, We will make the Cruiser housing also because I have gotten so many emails asking for them :D

[Mawnov]

I cant wait until your are done with all the smaller parts. Expect plenty of business from me when I start the next stage of my build!

[Gravel Maker]

Is a big step in the evolution....Soon!

[kpj]

Will the new knuckleball allow the potential for a greater steering angle?

[Gravel Maker]

Will the new knuckleball allow the potential for a greater steering angle?


But I think that would put the birfield at greater risk....

[msmoke]

But I think that would put the birfield at greater risk....

When i had my toyota stuff had no steering stops, modified felt retainers, all sorts of happy horse shit to try to squeeze every bit of steering i could out of the knuckle.

If you can, add more steering angle! Then let us worry about the shafts/steering stops.

[Gravel Maker]

When i had my toyota stuff had no steering stops, modified felt retainers, all sorts of happy horse shit to try to squeeze every bit of steering i could out of the knuckle.

If you can, add more steering angle! Then let us worry about the shafts/steering stops.


You might add 1.5 degrees of more rotation front and rear without too much trouble....

[SHNIPE]

8.4 front and rear housing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oneo neone111

[NateK]

Any word on a complete front housing cost?
Can you set the rear up with balls as well?
I'm in the planning stages of a toy buggy (not F-Toy) and am seriously considering rear steer but want the light weight of toy axles.
What does a complete front weigh?

Thanks!

[Gravel Maker]

8.4 front and rear housing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oneo neone111

Its in the works but won't be immediately....

Any word on a complete front housing cost?
Can you set the rear up with balls as well?
I'm in the planning stages of a toy buggy (not F-Toy) and am seriously considering rear steer but want the light weight of toy axles.
What does a complete front weigh?

Thanks!

Not yet, i need to know first how much the balls are costing to make....That won't be for a couple of weeks still. And yes, there is no problem making one for rear steering....

[NateK]

And yes, there is no problem making one for rear steering....

Cool dice!
Thanks!

[Gravel Maker]

Cool dice!
Thanks!

These are getting very popular already!

[balduccibrosracing]

i cant wait to get one into the tracker buggy:grinpimp:

i already have a fror full float kit, which caused the stock housing to bend...just so happens that the ID of the adapter is 3-1/2"...and obviously the housing tubes are 3-1/2" OD, we're planning on sliding the adapters onto the tube, and welding them in place, should work ok since the seal housing is pressed into the spindle:smokin:

btw dan, toy knuckle balls have been made later than 25 years ago...they just havent been available in the US since the last fj62's in 1990, they're still available in other countries though:flipoff2:....but im still excited to see what you come up with for the new ones, i'll definitely be getting them in a front housing at some point, maybe over the winter:smokin:

and any more steering angle will help, i have a few little tweaks done so im within an 1/8" of maxing out the knuckle to the housing right now, its been working perfect like that all season

[Gravel Maker]

i cant wait to get one into the tracker buggy:grinpimp:

i already have a fror full float kit, which caused the stock housing to bend...just so happens that the ID of the adapter is 3-1/2"...and obviously the housing tubes are 3-1/2" OD, we're planning on sliding the adapters onto the tube, and welding them in place, should work ok since the seal housing is pressed into the spindle:smokin:

btw dan, toy knuckle balls have been made later than 25 years ago...they just havent been available in the US since the last fj62's in 1990, they're still available in other countries though:flipoff2:....but im still excited to see what you come up with for the new ones, i'll definitely be getting them in a front housing at some point, maybe over the winter:smokin:

and any more steering angle will help, i have a few little tweaks done so im within an 1/8" of maxing out the knuckle to the housing right now, its been working perfect like that all season


I have a friend that has been a parts manager for toyota for ~25 years. He told me they had a price in the catalog ($426 Each!) but it was only there for insurance estimators and they simply did not sell them individually, only as a complete axle assembly.

BTW, they would be fine with Brians adapters....:D

[balduccibrosracing]

i was just implying that toy axle housings are available outside the US, newer than 25 years ago...i didnt think you could actually buy new knuckle balls from toyota, sorry i wasnt specific enough:laughing:

[Gravel Maker]

I only discovered it when I tried to buy them...

[ShmUDE]

are you going to do knuckle balls for us fj80 guys?

[Gravel Maker]

are you going to do knuckle balls for us fj80 guys?


We made the fixture big enough to do so on purpose :D They will not be first but they will be!

[ShmUDE]

We made the fixture big enough to do so on purpose :D They will not be first but they will be!

you da man! sign me up when they hit the shelf

[balduccibrosracing]

We made the fixture big enough to do so on purpose :D They will not be first but they will be!

any plans for a high steer setup? I happen to know a guy named tim that would benefit greatly from this.

[NateK]

Are you going to be producing complete axles?
With knuckles and balls? (80 series :smokin:)
With high steer, you know the works. :)

[Gravel Maker]

you da man! sign me up when they hit the shelf

I will announce them everywhere!

any plans for a high steer setup? I happen to know a guy named tim that would benefit greatly from this.

The high steer dosen't really look too hard just precise. The difference for ABS and non ABS should be a non event...

Are you going to be producing complete axles?
With knuckles and balls? (80 series :smokin:)
With high steer, you know the works. :)

We can do that now but we only do the heavy work, for a finished axle quote, ready to roll call Trevor at WFO Concepts (530)268-9494 if you are in the west or Chase at East Coast Gear Supply (919)-672-2705 if you are in the East.

We build the heavy parts but those guys build axles all day and you know its perfect. They also have all the relationships with the right manufacturers to be sure you are getting the best deal.

[Evilwhitey]

I'm another toy guy that's throwing around options. I've got money to spend but as nice as they are I can't justify the Diamonds. I'd really like to run an Taco 8.4 or Cruiser 9.5" front. These axles look sick, really looking forward to running one once the knuckle balls etc are ready. :smokin:

I'm also interested in the increased angle of steering on your knuckle balls as along as it won't effect strength. Those of us with Longfields or Dirty 30's aren't too worried about breakage and stops can always be turned out.

Will you be offsetting your front diff similar to diamonds so that we only need to have one inner axle made when going wider? Just trying to total out the overall cost in my head.

Edit: My comment above about the diamonds wasn't meant to make your new axles sound inferior, I actually love the way they look and once I'm able to bolt all my crap on I'll order a set.

[esam]

I'm patiently waiting........

[Gravel Maker]

I'm another toy guy that's throwing around options. I've got money to spend but as nice as they are I can't justify the Diamonds. I'd really like to run an Taco 8.4 or Cruiser 9.5" front. These axles look sick, really looking forward to running one once the knuckle balls etc are ready. :smokin:

I'm also interested in the increased angle of steering on your knuckle balls as along as it won't effect strength. Those of us with Longfields or Dirty 30's aren't too worried about breakage and stops can always be turned out.

Will you be offsetting your front diff similar to diamonds so that we only need to have one inner axle made when going wider? Just trying to total out the overall cost in my head.

Edit: My comment above about the diamonds wasn't meant to make your new axles sound inferior, I actually love the way they look and once I'm able to bolt all my crap on I'll order a set.

First off I would like to say Brian at Diamond make a great housing also and has been for 12 years. You are not going to go wrong with a Diamond axle. My only REAL difference is with the inner seals Diamond builds in, If you were to partially blow the inner seal and not the outer seal you could trap ~1/3 of the oil in the tube, away from where it is needed. So we do not add the inner seal provision.

However we are making these and we always try to do everything from the prospective of what is best for the customer and most fair price wise. I won't say our housings are better than Brian's (I won't say they are worse either), they are differently made and in some ways less expensive to make.

Another thing to keep in mind is that we do guarantee these against breakage no matter what you do to them....no questions asked....

And on to your questions....

The knuckle balls will have allowances for increased steering angles and strength will not be a worry....

Using the stock short side makes perfect sense for a linked truck and we have already made a few that way....

Thanks for all the questions and keeping me on my toes. :D

[Evilwhitey]

If you can keep the cost down I'm in for a pair. These things are going to sell like hotcakes. Can't wait to see the knuckle ball setup you come up with. :smokin: Thinking of running an Taco diffs front and rear. Big thanks for delivering a serious product at a price us cheapskate toyota guys can afford.

[boagreg]

I have money to spend and want a pair of Cruiser 9.5" axles with new balls. :smokin:

Can you do cruiser full float rears? I was thinking about making it so I could buy 2 long full float cruiser axles. So somewhere around 66" WMS. :D

[Gravel Maker]

If you can keep the cost down I'm in for a pair. These things are going to sell like hotcakes. Can't wait to see the knuckle ball setup you come up with. :smokin: Thinking of running an Taco diffs front and rear. Big thanks for delivering a serious product at a price us cheapskate toyota guys can afford.

I have money to spend and want a pair of Cruiser 9.5" axles with new balls. :smokin:

Can you do cruiser full float rears? I was thinking about making it so I could buy 2 long full float cruiser axles. So somewhere around 66" WMS. :D

Give me a call tommorrow and we can talk over what you want or need. The 9.5" housings are next, after all, I have 3 cruisers!

[Evilwhitey]

Picked up a cruiser 3rd from pick n pull today... might be looking at running them front and rear if I can find another. Am I correct in assuming the cruiser housing will look dimentionally about the same size as the Ford 9" housing your making right now? How does it compare with the stock toy 8" mini truck housings on ground clearance?

Guess I need to start working some O.T. and save my pennies. :D

Edit: Where do you recommend we pickup aftermarket custom length rear axles?

[olivedrabxj]

hey dan,

will you be making a rear housing end that will allow me to bolt a front spindle to it?

[Gravel Maker]

Picked up a cruiser 3rd from pick n pull today... might be looking at running them front and rear if I can find another. Am I correct in assuming the cruiser housing will look dimentionally about the same size as the Ford 9" housing your making right now? How does it compare with the stock toy 8" mini truck housings on ground clearance?

Guess I need to start working some O.T. and save my pennies. :D

Edit: Where do you recommend we pickup aftermarket custom length rear axles?

First off get to work on that overtime! Secondly I get my axles from Dean at performance Cryogenics....

hey dan,

will you be making a rear housing end that will allow me to bolt a front spindle to it?


We are already selling the ones from FROR, not yet on the site though....We are making some full float weld on spindles for these also...

[MaXXis85]

So tommorrow we should see what the new Knuckle balls look like?

[Gravel Maker]

So tommorrow we should see what the new Knuckle balls look like?

Yes, they're on their way but at least a week off....

[overeasy]

Can you install your stock knuckle balls into the tubes without any additional work?
Is the 6" over stock front housing have the 6" added to the short side only? (I don't want to have to buy another inner)
I'm very interested in one. Whats the shipping to 85210?
Thanks

[Gravel Maker]

Can you install your stock knuckle balls into the tubes without any additional work?
Is the 6" over stock front housing have the 6" added to the short side only? (I don't want to have to buy another inner)
I'm very interested in one. Whats the shipping to 85210?
Thanks

Yes we can.

We can make it 6" over however you like, left, right, or an even split.

They are $550 delivered in the lower 48.

Thanks

[overeasy]

Sorry,
I was trying to say, Can I install my stock knuckle balls into the tubes without any additional work?
I figured with an ID on the tubes of 2.75 the balls should fit in will little work.
Thanks again.

[Gravel Maker]

Sorry,
I was trying to say, Can I install my stock knuckle balls into the tubes without any additional work?
I figured with an ID on the tubes of 2.75 the balls should fit in will little work.
Thanks again.


Yes, after a bit of clean up they will go in fine....

[Evilwhitey]

How are your balls and your 9.5" looking? :D

[Gravel Maker]

My balls are fine :eek: Thankyou for asking!

The Knuckle balls are almost done :)

The LC housing will still be awhile....

[Evilwhitey]

:D Nice, that gives me some times to keep saving my pennies and find another 9.5" diff. Any idea on ground clearance on the 9.5" vs 8" diffs or have they still way too far out to guess.

You must be working around the clock because it seems like production has really been cranked out on the housings. :smokin:

[Gravel Maker]

:D Nice, that gives me some times to keep saving my pennies and find another 9.5" diff. Any idea on ground clearance on the 9.5" vs 8" diffs or have they still way too far out to guess.

You must be working around the clock because it seems like production has really been cranked out on the housings. :smokin:

We have 3 welders in the shop most of the time & 2 more that work at night so yes we have. We have shipped over 100 housings in about 100 days so we are cranking them out!

I have found that people just don't like to wait for their parts :rolleyes::shaking:

[watkins]

my stock length longs sure do need a straight new home!:shaking::shaking::shaking:
pics yet of the new 5 way better balls?

wade

[Gravel Maker]

my stock length longs sure do need a straight new home!:shaking::shaking::shaking:
pics yet of the new 5 way better balls?

wade


But I have been setting fires under a certain machinists' butt all week....:shaking:

[boagreg]

Any word on a 9.5" housing???

[NateK]

Is a 9.5 lc diff the same as a 9.5 tundra diff by chance? :smokin:

[boagreg]

Is a 9.5 lc diff the same as a 9.5 tundra diff by chance? :smokin:If you are talking about the new gen Tundra's then yes.

The new gen Tundra's with the 5.7 motor get the 10.5" diff and the ones with the 4.7's get the 9.5" diffs.

[Gravel Maker]

Any word on a 9.5" housing???

It is next in line but we are finishing up on 10 other things before we start on them...

Is a 9.5 lc diff the same as a 9.5 tundra diff by chance? :smokin:

Also a good question, answered below...
If you are talking about the new gen Tundra's then yes.

The new gen Tundra's with the 5.7 motor get the 10.5" diff and the ones with the 4.7's get the 9.5" diffs.

But how many splines on the shafts? And how soon for aftermarket support?

[boagreg]

But how many splines on the shafts? And how soon for aftermarket support?From my understanding it's just a cruiser diff put in the Tundra to beef the third up, so I'd assume the same spline count as the cruisers.

[NateK]

Gears for the new tundras are nonexistant.
I would know... :shaking:

[fenderbmxer86]

Any chance of getting a UNwelded 9 housing for a cheaper price?

[Gravel Maker]

From my understanding it's just a cruiser diff put in the Tundra to beef the third up, so I'd assume the same spline count as the cruisers.

Bigger R&P though...

Gears for the new tundras are nonexistant.
I would know... :shaking:

Thats for now, I think we will see more selection soon...

Any chance of getting a UNwelded 9 housing for a cheaper price?

Without a proper fixture to weld it together its not a good idea...

[bustanutley]

9.5" Tundra diff is 32 spline, but the spidersshould be interchangeable. The pinion also uses bigger splines, same as 8.4 diff. Everything else is interchangeable. Aftermarket gears should just be cruiser gears. This is the same diff used in FJ100s and maybe 200s? not sure.

http://file.walagata.com/w/bmjowett/9.5piion.jpg

[boagreg]

9.5" Tundra diff is 32 spline, but the spidersshould be interchangeable. The pinion also uses bigger splines, same as 8.4 diff. Everything else is interchangeable. Aftermarket gears should just be cruiser gears. This is the same diff used in FJ100s and maybe 200s? not sure.Thanks for the info. That pinion looks beef.

[bustanutley]

Different gear ratios, 4.10 and 3.90 :)

[Flatty]

Did you make the full float ends yet? I will be picking up either this one or the 9" when I am ready, but I don't want to spend the big $$ on the spidertrax ends.

Thanks
Dima

[Gravel Maker]

Did you make the full float ends yet? I will be picking up either this one or the 9" when I am ready, but I don't want to spend the big $$ on the spidertrax ends.

Thanks
Dima


Are our next project after the hubs are complete....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_hub%201%20front%20side%20view.jpg

Just a teaser pic...But not a stock 14 bolt replica, it costs' the same to make a stock replica as it costs' to make something really good, 40 spline and BA! And why would you want to spend that much and only get stock heavy rotors?

[NateK]

Bigger R&P though...



Thats for now, I think we will see more selection soon...

The 4.7 and 4.6 have a 9.5" R&P. ;)

Yes gears will be available for them but I don't know about soon...

[Gravel Maker]

The 4.7 and 4.6 have a 9.5" R&P. ;)

Yes gears will be available for them but I don't know about soon...

For now its a waiting game before they get popular...

[81_4xToy]

The website says the new knuckle balls are $130.00. Is that each, or the set?

[Gravel Maker]

The website says the new knuckle balls are $130.00. Is that each, or the set?


Of what they will cost when complete, it is an each cost, they are not cheap to make...

[Chop Shop]

I would like a toyota front housing that I can weld my own balls on.

I would like it with a notch for an elocker if possible.

Will these housings fit over the larger bearing cap on an elocker?

do you have a truss kit for the toyota housing yet?

Thanks Brad

[Gravel Maker]

I would like a toyota front housing that I can weld my own balls on.

I would like it with a notch for an elocker if possible.

Will these housings fit over the larger bearing cap on an elocker?

do you have a truss kit for the toyota housing yet?

Thanks Brad

The changes can be done in a short time but I need to buy an elocker...

Yes they would fit over the bigger caps....

The Toyota truss should be only a week or so...

[boagreg]

The changes can be done in a short time but I need to buy an elocker...You could also just buy a gasket from Toyota for an E-Locker and that would give you the layout of where it needs to be bigger.

I'm still waiting for the 9.5" and some new balls. Mine are all rusty and old. :smokin: :flipoff2:

[Gravel Maker]

You could also just buy a gasket from Toyota for an E-Locker and that would give you the layout of where it needs to be bigger.

I'm still waiting for the 9.5" and some new balls. Mine are all rusty and old. :smokin: :flipoff2:

The holes would never be perfect with just a gasket and the Toyotas are dammed precise!

[boagreg]

The holes would never be perfect with just a gasket and the Toyotas are dammed precise!True, I wasn't thinking about the holes. I was just thinking about the shift fork slot.

[Gravel Maker]

Yes, a couple of different holes....not impossible but need a third to be accurate...

[esam]

I have been looking for the new toy ball ends on the web site, are they available yet?

[tunaman]

are you guys going to make an 8.4 tacoma/t100 diff housing?

[Gravel Maker]

I have been looking for the new toy ball ends on the web site, are they available yet?

Not yet but i am getting promises...

are you guys going to make an 8.4 tacoma/t100 diff housing?

Not til Jan/Feb'ish, the Cruiser comes first...

[Evilwhitey]

Will you have provisions to run hi pinion and 9.5" e-lockers work with your housings?

[boagreg]

Will you have provisions to run hi pinion and 9.5" e-lockers work with your housings?Hi-pinion and Low pinion 8" thirds will interchange. The 8" e-locking thirds are a different story.

9.5" e-lockers and non e-lockers have the same stud pattern. The studs are different lengths but are in the same place. Other than swapping a few studs you can interchange the e-locking third and non e-locking third. To unlock the e-locker you need to make a notch in the housing. Easy enough. My point is there is no special stud placement.

I'm ready to order my 9.5" housing Dan. :D Get to work! :flipoff2:

[Gravel Maker]

To get them out before Festivus but time is limited....First the most BA hubs you have ever seen :smokin:

Hi-pinion and Low pinion 8" thirds will interchange. The 8" e-locking thirds are a different story.

9.5" e-lockers and non e-lockers have the same stud pattern. The studs are different lengths but are in the same place. Other than swapping a few studs you can interchange the e-locking third and non e-locking third. To unlock the e-locker you need to make a notch in the housing. Easy enough. My point is there is no special stud placement.

I'm ready to order my 9.5" housing Dan. :D Get to work! :flipoff2:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks for the answers to his questions, there are so many tech guys on Pirate I sometimes don't have to say anything!

Will you have provisions to run hi pinion and 9.5" e-lockers work with your housings?

[boagreg]

Thanks for the answers to his questions, there are so many tech guys on Pirate I sometimes don't have to say anything!No problem! It'll just cost you a discount. :flipoff2:

Here's a link to a good site with more info on 9.5" stuff including swapping a 9.5" e-locking into a FJ60 front housing.

http://desertcruzer.com/elock1.htm

[MaXXis85]

Dan,
Any news from the machinist on the knuckle balls?

[balduccibrosracing]

Dan,
Any news from the machinist on the knuckle balls?

i was wondering that too..

[olivedrabxj]

i was wondering that too..

me too

[YotaLay]

Dan,

Whats the approx. cost of a Toy 8" rear housing with Toy ends welded at
63" WMS?

Thanks.

[Gravel Maker]

Dan,

Whats the approx. cost of a Toy 8" rear housing with Toy ends welded at
63" WMS?

Thanks.

Front or rear?

[YotaLay]

Rear..

[Gravel Maker]

Rear..

It would be ~$6-700 including the housing, that is depending on the ends you wish to use, of course it would be cheaper if you wanted something used put on and more expensive it the ends were made of unobtainium...

[Seabass]

Need a front housing, stock width withs perches for springs to 92688. ETA and price?

[balduccibrosracing]

any news about the knuckle balls yet?

[chromewontgetyouhome]

any news about the knuckle balls yet?

X2, at least give us a sneak peak!

[kpj]

Just bumping this back to the top....wondering how the knuckleballs are coming along? :)

[navman]

I've been looking at these as well as your 9" for a front jeep yj app. Since there are a lot of techs watching this thread, will a high pinion 8" and your new knuckles hold up to a 5.0 v8 and 37's? If so this would be a great high clearance option for me.

[redpim1]

I'll be getting my bonus soon hope you have these ready soon... :D

[jader]

bump for any knuckleball news, ETA? updates?

[nightcrawler]

PM me the total for rear toyota IFS width with oem mounting flanges in each end to 94550.

[rredalty]

What is the weight of one of these versus a stock housing?

[Gravel Maker]

Need a front housing, stock width withs perches for springs to 92688. ETA and price?

PM sent...

any news about the knuckle balls yet?

Just bumping this back to the top....wondering how the knuckleballs are coming along? :)

bump for any knuckleball news, ETA? updates?

Th knuckleballs are definately a pain in the butt to make but they have been promised before the new year (3rd promise) and I told him all orders would be going elsewhere until we got them...Sometimes a little threat will get a little more action....:evil:

X2, at least give us a sneak peak!

No sneak peeks, thats how many existing companies get all of their new ideas. I will say we have found 5 ways to make these better and stronger than stock and for a fair price!

I've been looking at these as well as your 9" for a front jeep yj app. Since there are a lot of techs watching this thread, will a high pinion 8" and your new knuckles hold up to a 5.0 v8 and 37's? If so this would be a great high clearance option for me.

The 30 spline axles would definately be the weak point...

I'll be getting my bonus soon hope you have these ready soon... :D

The housings have been ready for 4 months, just waiting on the knuckleballs...

PM me the total for rear toyota IFS width with oem mounting flanges in each end to 94550.

PM sent...but here you go in public, $6-700 depending on the exact configuration...

What is the weight of one of these versus a stock housing?

Stock housing only is ~42lbs, these are 72lbs. The strength is where the comparrison really matters....

[surftaco]

would we be able to buy just the knuckle balls for our home-made housings?

also do u have a source for custom length axle shafts?

[Gravel Maker]

would we be able to buy just the knuckle balls for our home-made housings?

also do u have a source for custom length axle shafts?

And we have a few sources for shafts...

[surftaco]

The knuckleballs are definately a pain in the butt to make but they have been promised before the new year (3rd promise) and I told him all orders would be going elsewhere until we got them...Sometimes a little threat will get a little more action....:evil:


Well the year ends tomorrow, any progress?

[balduccibrosracing]

its past the new year...whats the deal with the knuckle balls?

[marvin82]

its past the new year...whats the deal with the knuckle balls?

bump for the week....

[Gravel Maker]

Well the year ends tomorrow, any progress?

its past the new year...whats the deal with the knuckle balls?

bump for the week....

The answer is they simply are not done yet, I took the job away from the machinist that had it...

But here are some things to warm you while you are waiting...:D

Pirates own Stephy!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/casual%20red1.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/frontal3.jpg

[balduccibrosracing]

thats nice, but it doesnt help me build a new front axle:laughing:

[Gravel Maker]

thats nice, but it doesnt help me build a new front axle:laughing:

It dosen't help me sell Toyota housings either :(

[balduccibrosracing]

is that tim's new 14bolt housing in the second picture?

[Gravel Maker]

is that tim's new 14bolt housing in the second picture?

And, damm that super 14 third is huge....:eek:

[Mawnov]

I m waiting on teh new knuckle balls, and I still have my fingers crossed on th e-locker center. I am not in th market for a new housing just yet but I will be in a year or so and yours is at the top of my list.

[ssic off road shop]

Knew I should have hung around to see the models the other day

[NateK]

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/Sharpsy72/Paint/frontal3.jpg
:eek:

[Timmay]

And, damm that super 14 third is huge....:eek:

It's done?! When do I get it?

Did you put the spindles on too? It looks great Dan. Shoot me a call when you get a chance.

[Ferrarist]

Hey,not shure if you saw,but you have PM for few days... :)

[Gravel Maker]

Hey,not shure if you saw,but you have PM for few days... :)

I don't have any unanswered PM's? Try calling me....

[Ferrarist]

well...maybe i screwed something...but i can ask directly here...
i am from EU and im preparing toy/mog hybrids...will you sell maybe just diff housing,without "tubes"?i need "reversed" diffs and custom lenghts,but shipping for full housing will kill me...

[notyourmomslx450]

Subscribed. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Dan, I know you've got alot of questions about these, but would it be possible to put an outer flange from an 80 series FF rear (slightly different bolt pattern than an 8" housing)on the 8" housing so we can run the 80 series rear spindle and disk brakes w/ built in e-brake?

[Gravel Maker]

well...maybe i screwed something...but i can ask directly here...
i am from EU and im preparing toy/mog hybrids...will you sell maybe just diff housing,without "tubes"?i need "reversed" diffs and custom lenghts,but shipping for full housing will kill me...

We ship to the EU a few times a week so no problem....And yes we can.

Subscribed. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Dan, I know you've got alot of questions about these, but would it be possible to put an outer flange from an 80 series FF rear (slightly different bolt pattern than an 8" housing)on the 8" housing so we can run the 80 series rear spindle and disk brakes w/ built in e-brake?

First off I should say these are the finished product and have been shipping for 5 months. But I know what you mean.... That would be no problem but until we make that part we would have to used a used one because that part is not available yet in the secondary market...

[notyourmomslx450]

First off I should say these are the finished product and have been shipping for 5 months. But I know what you mean.... That would be no problem but until we make that part we would have to used a used one because that part is not available yet in the secondary market...

yep, my bad. should have clarified. can't wait to see it w/ the new improved knuckle balls ready to go!! :homer:

thanks for the quick reply, I'm saving my pennies as we speak, ready to upgrade my axles and these things look STOUT!!

[Ferrarist]

wow,nice...if so,can you check a price for shipping to Slovenia?

[Gravel Maker]

wow,nice...if so,can you check a price for shipping to Slovenia?

What your postal code is?

[Ferrarist]

5263

[Rock Ape]

Bump for an awesome toy axle housing!!!

http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af156/chassisworxs/100_4564.jpg
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af156/chassisworxs/100_4565.jpg

These are steering, drivers and passengers drop that will be 6" wider than stock....

Thanks again RS!!!

:grinpimp:

[Gravel Maker]

Lets see'em on! I really want to build something like that whenever I find some free time...If that ever happens...

[balduccibrosracing]

any news about the knuckle balls?

[globalexcursion]

I don't know if this was brought up in this thread, but I know it was a topic in the other knuckle ball thread.

Is there a chance of ordering knuckle balls with a 3" or 6" extension?
For those that want to lengthen their stock housing's short side to FJ60/40 length or match housing widths with Tacoma rear width?

[balduccibrosracing]

I don't know if this was brought up in this thread, but I know it was a topic in the other knuckle ball thread.

Is there a chance of ordering knuckle balls with a 3" or 6" extension?
For those that want to lengthen their stock housing's short side to FJ60/40 length or match housing widths with Tacoma rear width?

cruiser short side shafts are only 2 or 2-1/2" longer than mini shafts iirc, someone makes a sleeve to widen housings, i've widened a couple stock housings that way with stock knuckle balls...works pretty nice, pm me for info on the sleeves, i dont want to hijack dan's thread too much:laughing:

[Gravel Maker]

any news about the knuckle balls?

I don't know if this was brought up in this thread, but I know it was a topic in the other knuckle ball thread.

Is there a chance of ordering knuckle balls with a 3" or 6" extension?
For those that want to lengthen their stock housing's short side to FJ60/40 length or match housing widths with Tacoma rear width?

cruiser short side shafts are only 2 or 2-1/2" longer than mini shafts iirc, someone makes a sleeve to widen housings, i've widened a couple stock housings that way with stock knuckle balls...works pretty nice, pm me for info on the sleeves, i dont want to hijack dan's thread too much:laughing:

First off I should say I am sorry for not answering sooner, we have just had an extremely busy week, trying to complete 2 new projects before KOH, shipping a ton of stuff, & 2 people out sick most of the week....

But here I am now!

The knuckleballs are finally in process, 80 pair in the first batch, barring misshap they should be ready late next week or Monday the following week. I will show a picture of the fixture designed and made to make them but my machinist asked me not to until he had the patent paperwork filed. It is a very interesting fixture that mounts in the faceplate of one of his bigger machine centers...

Initally I have no plans to make a retrofit type of long knuckleball because I think it would place undue leverage at the point where it ends and the tube starts.

[zidaro]

Your making me tingly inside :D

[balduccibrosracing]

hey dan are these being made to fit inside 3.5" 3/8" wall housings? my plan is to use them in a 3.5" .25" wall housing, would it be a possible option to make them with a bigger OD for .25 housings?...if its not possible i'll just make some spacers

[Gravel Maker]

Your making me tingly inside :D

I am alway tingly....:eek:

hey dan are these being made to fit inside 3.5" 3/8" wall housings? my plan is to use them in a 3.5" .25" wall housing, would it be a possible option to make them with a bigger OD for .25 housings?...if its not possible i'll just make some spacers

We should be able to make a few for 1/4' wall tube but most are going to be for 2 3/4" tube ID...

[balduccibrosracing]

We should be able to make a few for 1/4' wall tube but most are going to be for 2 3/4" tube ID...

i'll take a pair for 1/4" wall tube...let me know when they're ready:smokin:

[Rock Ape]

First off I should say I am sorry for not answering sooner, we have just had an extremely busy week, trying to complete 2 new projects before KOH, shipping a ton of stuff, & 2 people out sick most of the week....

But here I am now!

The knuckleballs are finally in process, 80 pair in the first batch, barring misshap they should be ready late next week or Monday the following week. I will show a picture of the fixture designed and made to make them but my machinist asked me not to until he had the patent paperwork filed. It is a very interesting fixture that mounts in the faceplate of one of his bigger machine centers...

Initally I have no plans to make a retrofit type of long knuckleball because I think it would place undue leverage at the point where it ends and the tube starts.

Ill call ya monday!!!

might as well put me down for four of those new blingy knuckle ballz....getting the old ones out just isnt time well spent at this point!!!

btw...now that you got the final piece to the puzzle.....I think anyone that was hesitant to upgrade, should have no problem now!!! Thanks again for the great products!!!!

[Buddha]

Saw your stuff at KOH and can't wait to see what you have in store for the Toyota stuff.

Tim

[Gravel Maker]

A big message on my desk from my manager that was running the shop while we were at KOH saying the knuckleballs are finally ready and waiting at the machine shop! I will try and pick them up tommorrow...

[globalexcursion]

A big message on my desk from my manager that was running the shop while we were at KOH saying the knuckleballs are finally ready and waiting at the machine shop! I will try and pick them up tommorrow...

Holy shit that is great news :grinpimp: Can't wait to see them and hope to abuse some of your stuff in the future.

[boagreg]

Bout damn time. :flipoff2:

Money has been burning a hole in my pocket for months. :smokin:

[notyourmomslx450]

sweet! can't wait to see them.

[]4RunnerKid[]

this front housing is DAMN impressive. cannot wait to see the knuckle balls... from what i was told at KOH they should be indestructible :smokin:

[Gravel Maker]

I'm glad a bunch of you got to see the housings at KOH, pics of the balls tommorrow...If I can get in touch with my machinist...Damned holidays!

[Gravel Maker]

Got some pics today, not as completed as I was led to believe but the outside is done....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Knucklebells%20002.jpg

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Knucklebells%20001.jpg

The throat is 9/16" thick (thicker on the inside) at the thinnest area compared to a shave under 7/16" for stock. And I spoke to Bobby Long again tonite to triple check some measurements so at least progress has been seen....Now they are on the mill....

[JRATOFFROAD "TheRat"]

Damn them are nice!! I was all about buying some of these and a couple housing about 2 months ago! Maybe I will and run them in my new axles :eek: hahaha. Damn those pictures make me want to buy some!!

[DiscoDino]

Good stuff! :flipoff2:

[Vu14TJ]

FINALLY DAN!!!! Those look awesome, you can expect an axle order from me as soon as those balls are complete!! :smokin:

[surftaco]

So would you still recommend that people gusset these knuckle balls? or would you say that is no longer needed?

[jhama78]

Damn glad to see these dan, after talking to ya last week they definitely should be the cats azz once ya are done with them. :smokin:

[Vu14TJ]

Any idea when a complete front will be ready? This money is really burning a hole in my pocket!

[broken wrench]

Any idea when a complete front will be ready? This money is really burning a hole in my pocket!

no doubt !!!

[4-runner87]

I'm thining thats going to be one bulletproof housing when all said and done!

[YotaLay]

Any idea when a complete front will be ready? This money is really burning a hole in my pocket!
x2... I'm considering ditching the 1 ton idea and buiding some nice toy axles....

[Rock Ape]

A big message on my desk from my manager that was running the shop while we were at KOH saying the knuckleballs are finally ready and waiting at the machine shop! I will try and pick them up tommorrow...

:grinpimp:

Im holding out on my axle build thread for those bad ass MoFos!!!

Now after seeing the pics it seems like a waste to bother with stock pieces!!!

[SilverSeven]

whats the benefit over stock? seriously curious, not flaming

[dragr1]

Subscribing!

[Gravel Maker]

x2... I'm considering ditching the 1 ton idea and buiding some nice toy axles....

:grinpimp:

Im holding out on my axle build thread for those bad ass MoFos!!!

Now after seeing the pics it seems like a waste to bother with stock pieces!!!

Thanks guys, I am hoping the machinist will finish them this weekend.

whats the benefit over stock? seriously curious, not flaming

Fair question, I don't see it as a flame...

There are several benefits. I think the first would always be that these are conservatively speaking more than twice the strength of the stock housing. Next you should know they are available in any length. But the most important might be that they are new and not 25 years old with the accumulated beating a truck that never even saw the dirt has by now. If you buy an empty stock housing try running a truebar through it....not nearly as true as the day they were made, 25 years ago.....

[dtrujillo63]

I can't wait until this axle is complete. Are you guys going to make each axle to order? Weld the balls on whatever length we specify or will you have a production model at a specific length?

As for the rear, do you guys offer a complete IFS width 8" toyota axle with flages already welded on?

[NateK]

Thanks guys, I am hoping the machinist will finish them this weekend.



Fair question, I don't see it as a flame...

There are several benefits. I think the first would always be that these are conservatively speaking more than twice the strength of the stock housing. Next you should know they are available in any length. But the most important might be that they are new and not 25 years old with the accumulated beating a truck that never even saw the dirt has by now. If you buy an empty stock housing try running a truebar through it....not nearly as true as the day they were made, 25 years ago.....

I think he may have meant the balls, and if not I'm curious. ;)

[SilverSeven]

I think he may have meant the balls, and if not I'm curious. ;)

yes i was referring to your balls, knuckle balls that is :D

[Gravel Maker]

Think of 5 ways they could have been made better by Toyota from the start. We are making them 5 ways better than stock. Toyota did a good job but they never dreamed they would be used the way we are using them.

[SilverSeven]

Think of 5 ways they could have been made better by Toyota from the start. We are making them 5 ways better than stock. Toyota did a good job but they never dreamed they would be used the way we are using them.

this is the answer i have heard before, what exactly are the 5 ways? I mean talk about beating around the bush.

[Gravel Maker]

I do not want to give them away in public but you can call and I will tell you....But if you think about the problems the knuckleballs have they become obvious.

[SilverSeven]

I do not want to give them away in public but you can call and I will tell you....But if you think about the problems the knuckleballs have they become obvious.

ok fair enough

[NateK]

How well would these hold up to 42's with 9.5" Toyota centers?
V8 powered fairly lightweight, but would get jumped.

[Lord Orange]

Dan if you need an elocker to get measurements, I have a Hi-pinion, and a taco 4 cyl elocker I can bring up to you to measure, for the people. They are for my f-toy but not installed yet...er the taco is but I have FF not to hard to pull out for the cause.

[Gravel Maker]

How well would these hold up to 42's with 9.5" Toyota centers?
V8 powered fairly lightweight, but would get jumped.

The Knuckle balls would but I think the birfields would be complaining...

Dan if you need an elocker to get measurements, I have a Hi-pinion, and a taco 4 cyl elocker I can bring up to you to measure, for the people. They are for my f-toy but not installed yet...er the taco is but I have FF not to hard to pull out for the cause.

Give me a call, I have the Tace E but not the other...

[Rock Ape]

Any word yet on those knuckle BallZ?:grinpimp:

[balduccibrosracing]

Any word yet on those knuckle BallZ?:grinpimp:

X2...i need them asap

[Yotarunner86]

X2...i need them asap

X3...my ifs front bearings are shot and its time to invest that money into a sas. looking to buy in the next few weeks! how much is shipping on the housing and knuckles to 08085

[Lord Orange]

Dan I forgot about last monday. I will get the front HP to you so you can draw it out for your housings.

[Lord Orange]

bump TT. Dan coming down today to drop off that HP housing so you can get it into your axle arsenal.

[]4RunnerKid[]

any pics of one of these installed yet? specifically on a leaf sprung truck... i'm curious to see how everything works out with spring perches and u-bolts

[nightcrawler]

4RunnerKid[;11131518']any pics of one of these installed yet? specifically on a leaf sprung truck... i'm curious to see how everything works out with spring perches and u-bolts

X2

When will the shoulder perches for this particular housing be avail?

[MTMudpuppy]

I like the idea of being able to order the axles wider. I will be in touch.

[NorCalPR]

Dan, this is awesome news.

I'm assuming we would be able to provide pinion angles, as well as caster angles and have that all welded up at the time that the knuckle balls are welded on?

[powthief19]

not to sound gay or anything but lets see the balls. Are they done yet?

[Longfield]

[QUOTE=Gravel Maker;11062480]The Knuckle balls would but I think the birfields would be complaining...

Nice job Dan, let me know if you need any help.