I dont think its Pirate worthy yet but Id like some opinions on it as I get it to that point.

'95 XJ 4.0/AW4
3.5", 33x12.50"s, Aussie up front
D30/C8.25

Plans for the winter:
Finish cargo area
Bumpers/boatsides
Tube fenders
Rear stretch and move spring hangers.
Axles
Maybe a Hybrid cage if time permits

33x12.50's on stock sagging suspension
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/measure.JPG

I broke a leaf and figured it was finally time to lift it.
http://crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/IMG_0078.jpg

Next to my girlfriends stock XJ
http://crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/IMG_0077.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/RUDY850/Picture961-1.jpg



Video of its first day on the trail. I snap a shaft at the end of the vid.
http://vid191.photobucket.com/albums/z10/mykalj/Places/jambo09/Mykal_waterfall.flv


Small waterfall.
Coming down
YouTube - XJ Down a waterfall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4ZbBc99348)

Going up
YouTube - XJ up a waterfall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_qKMwdylPw)

Ive dropped this ledge numerous times. No big deal.
http://crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC01758.jpg

Except this time I hit the front hitch a little too hard.
Thats what was left of my airbag after I cut it out.
http://crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC01763.jpg


The first cuts the deepest. no turning back now.
http://crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC00873.jpg


http://crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC00905.jpg

I put some 6" LED's in. They are supposed to be turn/stop/tail. When I wired them up though the turn signal stops working when the brake is applied. I plan on wiring up a second set of small amber LED's for just the turn signals.
http://crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC00888.jpg

Moved it to the house until I get my steel ordered this week sometime.

Ive been reading this (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507763&highlight=111%22+stretch) thread and have gotten some great ideas from it. The rear cargo area will get the same basic design with a little more reinforcement.

Plan to copy a few things for sure.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/th45cruzr/Wheelbase%20Stretch/IMG_4368.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/th45cruzr/Wheelbase%20Stretch/IMG_4382.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/th45cruzr/IMG_4437.jpg

why did you draw a curvy line on the rear fenders, and then follow that line for the cut? seems to me that straight lines and cuts would have been better. looks like you messed up on purpose.

Looks to me like he created a new fender line with the cut following a different radious than the previous door/fender line, not using the damn door as a part of the fender line.

EDIT: I should add he did this on purpose to make the rear well look alot cleaner than most WB stretches.

You need a trailer wiring harness to get the tail lights and turn signals to work right. I recommend this one: Drawtite 18130.

why did you draw a curvy line on the rear fenders, and then follow that line for the cut? seems to me that straight lines and cuts would have been better. looks like you messed up on purpose.

I scribbled a line on there as a guide of where I wanted to cut. I used a sawzall and purposely cut to much. I will go back and cut even with the body line with a jigsaw to straighten it out and make it cleaner.


You need a trailer wiring harness to get the tail lights and turn signals to work right. I recommend this one: Drawtite 18130.


Thanks for the info. Ill check that out.

srsly you are fawkin ghey for doing this.







































if you need any help hit me up and ill be there hah! shit by the way, why do you still have the jeepinwv sitckers on there?

idea-- Get a flatter spring pack, move front hangers under "frame" rail. Did this the first build on mine and loved the slightly inboarded springs and zero arch springs---just a thought. Continue on:homer:

srsly you are fawkin ghey for doing this.
if you need any help hit me up and ill be there hah! shit by the way, why do you still have the jeepinwv sitckers on there?

Thanks fawk face. I know where you stand on it though. Itll fold like a taco. :laughing:

Im lazy. :flipoff2: Thats why I havent finished it yet. I knew I shouldnt have moved it out of the garage. Maybe this weekend Ill finish it.


idea-- Get a flatter spring pack, move front hangers under "frame" rail. Did this the first build on mine and loved the slightly inboarded springs and zero arch springs---just a thought. Continue on:homer:

Not a bad idea Ill keep that in mind when I get to the leafs. Thanks

everything will be good once you put a cage in it. then ill ride wit yah. anyways i should be 100% after this weekend, so hit me up.

Will try and find old pics of mine when I did the leafs so you can get an idea....

Look at the third pic down in my build thread that a buddy posted for me. You can't see the front hangers but you can kinda get an idea of how much they moved in in relation to the diff....

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326914

Sweet. Thanks!

I think you should post some more pictures. I didn't see the angle from the right front corner. :flipoff2:

Put it off long enough. Started on it yesterday.

Heres some pics from tonight.

Straightened my lines outs.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC00965.jpg

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC00963.jpg

Part of the floor.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC00974.jpg

Ghetto break
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/DSC00977.jpg

Temp mockup. Tubs need burned in yet. Gas tank needs strapped in as well as boxed in yet.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/mockup.jpg

Still have alot to do.

Nice work so far, definately looks a lot better now that you've cleaned up the cuts.

Did you shat your pants when that airbag hit you in the face? Haha I bet that was a surprise!

Nice work so far, definately looks a lot better now that you've cleaned up the cuts.

Thanks.

Did you shat your pants when that airbag hit you in the face? Haha I bet that was a surprise!

It didnt hit me in the face. It did scare me pretty bad though. I wasnt expecting it at all.

One end of the tubs mocked up.

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/xjtubs/DSC00984.JPG
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/xjtubs/DSC00988.JPG

Gonna start on the backside of them tomorrow.

are you plannin on 44" tires or reverse portals? maybe a frame notch? im confused as to were all the inner fenderwell space is going to do you good. it looks like your cut line on your rear quarter panel is a good 4 inches lower than the top of the inside of the tub. Lost interior space.

Im strictly trying to be constructive.

are you plannin on 44" tires or reverse portals? maybe a frame notch? im confused as to were all the inner fenderwell space is going to do you good. it looks like your cut line on your rear quarter panel is a good 4 inches lower than the top of the inside of the tub. Lost interior space.

Im strictly trying to be constructive.

Im planning on 39's within the year if I can get my hands on some 60's along with the stretch. If not, itll be next winter. Your correct I didnt cut to the same height as the top of the tub. I was going to run the tubs to the lowest point but the surface on top would not have been very wide. Since I moved it up to below the window seal I gained about 3" in width. I plan on mounting my ammo cans on them and now they are wide enough for that.

I appreciate the constructive comments, believe me, Ive never done anything like this. Im sure it shows.

good shit dude. quite the little undertaking haha, i'll deff be checking in on this build as you continue. you can never cut too much!!!!!

Started on the reverse lights tonight. No pics yet, just started cutting into the hatch. Ill post pics when its done.

Heres what Im doing though.

'95 Oldsmobile Aurora Reverse Lights
Bought these.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/SARBronco/Reverse%20light/DSC04463.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/SARBronco/Reverse%20light/DSC04471.jpg

Not my Jeep but thats what itll look like.

Started on the reverse lights tonight. No pics yet, just started cutting into the hatch. Ill post pics when its done.

Heres what Im doing though.

'95 Oldsmobile Aurora Reverse Lights
Bought these.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/SARBronco/Reverse%20light/DSC04463.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/SARBronco/Reverse%20light/DSC04471.jpg

Not my Jeep but thats what itll look like.

You might check out this guy's idea when you go to wire them...
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=244575738&postcount=243
Billy

Damn thats a pretty good idea. I already fished lines through the opening though.

Got the reverse lights suck in tonight. Got a little paint started. Not much in the way of progress tonight.

Still have to wire reverse lights, enclose gas tank, finish forward caps on tubs, and run the filler neck to the outside.


http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/xjfloor3/DSC01011.JPG

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/xjfloor3/DSC01014.JPG

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/xjfloor3DSC01017.JPG

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/xjfloor3/DSC01019.JPG

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/xjfloor3/DSC01020.JPG

That is sweet, looks like those reverse lights came from the factory that way. I like it.

Figured I should try to put the rear seat up to make sure it lateched before I finished that part of the tubs. Glad I did. It doesnt latch. This is a major problem since my kids love to be in the Jeep as well.

Trying to figure out how to relocate the latches forward a bit more in a safe way.

This will take care of it.
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoSpareWheel32inch.htm

i think you can flip over the factory metal tank straps to get rid of those nylon straps, or just make some new metal ones.

i think you can flip over the factory metal tank straps to get rid of those nylon straps, or just make some new metal ones.

I actually planned on using the metal straps. I cut holes in the new floor so that I can acess the same mounting points as well. These are just temporary as I have to pull it back out again in order to finish the cage around the tank.

I actually planned on using the metal straps. I cut holes in the new floor so that I can acess the same mounting points as well. These are just temporary as I have to pull it back out again in order to finish the cage around the tank.

word. :D well. look foward to your rear stretch job. im doin my rear framerail reinforcements right now.

Havent touched it since the last update. Need to get my ass in gear.
Going to pickup a 14bolt FF SRW this weekend.

Havent touched it since the last update. Need to get my ass in gear.
Going to pickup a 14bolt FF SRW this weekend.

dont bump your thread till you have updates :flipoff2: :laughing: I came in here expecting big things. :flipoff2:

Nothing big to report. Making steady progress.

Side view. Not even close to done. Still need the tube fenders and the stretch done as well as tucking up the wires.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/turns/DSC01046.JPG

Added these for turns. I dont really like them or the layout but they will work.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/turns/turns.JPG

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/turns/turns2.JPG

A very rough mock up of the back of the tubs. I cut into them so the rear seat could actually latch instead of relocating the latch mounts.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/turns/roughmock.JPG

Cut the tubs. Angled them back to let the seat come back all the way.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/turns/reartub.jpg

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/turns/seats.jpg

Going to paint everything tommorow and possibly start on caging the tank.

Napa sells some 10 LED Signal stat lights that are WAY WAY WAY brighter than the single LED's. If those are incandescents (standard bulbs) they might be about the same light output.

These are the ones i use for the same size hole-

Signal stat 3050A 5111 12v

They even have A DOT stamp on them.

Cool, thanks! I didnt look around much.
These are LED's and DOT approved as well. I havent wired them up yet so I dont know how bright they are, but Im sure they arent. Ill check out what you recommended though. These are single LED and Id like to have multiple.

I've got two per side to blind people when i am turning :lmao: IIRC they are about 13 bucks a peice. The singles werent bright enough to see in daylight. if they are still new i would recommend returning them. I almost got rear ended a few times because of the single LED turns.

Not sure how much of a boatside you are planning on doing, but here is how I did mine
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=998114


Some other links that might help you out
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707178
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=936539&highlight=boatside
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93510&highlight=boatside

Thanks! I like yours but I dont want to go that high simply because I dont think I have the fab skills to close the doors back up and make them decent looking.

Ill probably do what most people do and chop about an inch or so off the bottom of the doors. Thats down the road though. I need to finish this first.

Thanks again for the links!

Not sure how much of a boatside you are planning on doing, but here is how I did mine
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=998114


Some other links that might help you out
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707178
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=936539&highlight=boatside
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93510&highlight=boatside


jesus christ your rocker thread on naxja is a fucking book :barf:

Nice work

Subbed

what the fawk...

you have just ruined a perfectly good SUV... :flipoff2:


whats the status on this build ?

Its sitting with a for sale sign on it. :flipoff2:

Still waiting to find a great deal on a front 60. I should probably just go with 44's and 33's so I can wheel this summer though.

reverse lights = FAWESOME!!

tail lights look like shit though :flipoff2:

great work so far. and would love to wheele with you some time im ganna be moven down to beckley in 2 weeksi know its not close to you but i dont know where to wheel there anyways

great work so far. and would love to wheele with you some time im ganna be moven down to beckley in 2 weeksi know its not close to you but i dont know where to wheel there anyways

Sent you a PM.

Just a little update its been awhile.

I bought a 8 lug D44 to match the 14b I had and then decided I wouldnt be happy with it and needed to start doing more maintenance and preparation for the tons. So I sold them.

Bought a Winch bumper and Winch. Not sure how Im going to like the loss of approach angle up front. Ill decide after a few trips if Im going to keep it or not.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z10/mykalj/Jeep/XJ/WinchBumper/winch4.jpg

Bought some Ruff stuff frame stiffeners and 5"x3"x3/16" rectangle steel for rear bumper and boat sides. Got a great deal on NIB Clayton LA's so I grabbed those up as well.

Maintenance wise all hell broke loose. Radiator broke, replaced it, motor mount and tranny mount broke within 10 miles of the new one being put in and busted it with the fan clutch. Water pump went out as well.

Long arms and stiffeners should be on by Monday evening.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/frame.jpg

Got one side done.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/lcahalf.jpg
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/lcagone.jpg

Yeah none of this is hardcore material, I know.

I have the same bumper,minus the grill hoop.I ended up chopping ~5" off the back and tucking the winch into the grill.

I have the same bumper,minus the grill hoop.I ended up chopping ~5" off the back and tucking the winch into the grill.

Thats not a bad idea at all. Ill try it this way and see how it goes but I think I already know how thats going to end up. Thanks.

To give you an idea....
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f365/fullwidthxj/Picture193.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f365/fullwidthxj/Picture190.jpg
The only things I kept were the frame mounts and center section.I wish I woulda just made my own:rolleyes:But it was a well made cheap bumper.

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/xj/albums/uploadpics/turns/DSC01046.JPG


Why did you feel it was nessicary to cut that much off that back? Am I missing the part where you intending to run 50's? If you where concerned about uptravel and tire contact, then you didn't think this out too well. To each his own, but you got way to carried away with that.

Here's mine... Straight comp cut out the back with the top of the original fender line. I have about 7" of up travel and at full bump and about 1/2" away from contact.
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww81/JeepinGuy10/Random%20Jeep%20Pictures/GW.jpg

:eek: Holy shit! Did GreatWhite just post a pic of his rig???.......... Yes, yes he did! :flipoff2:

:eek: Holy shit! Did GreatWhite just post a pic of his rig???.......... Yes, yes he did! :flipoff2:

Holy shit did that ego-maniac just talk about himself in third person? :laughing:



Yes, yes he did! :lmao:



Should have waited for outside notoriety. :flipoff2: now you look like a weirdo. :flipoff2:

:flipoff2:

:flipoff2:

Im just mad i missed it before you edited it. :p

Why did you feel it was nessicary to cut that much off that back? Am I missing the part where you intending to run 50's? If you where concerned about uptravel and tire contact, then you didn't think this out too well. To each his own, but you got way to carried away with that.


Alot of the inner sheet was rusted but also planning for the future. I plan to stretch the rear out and run 40's at some point. The only part you probably missed is the part where I said I have never done this before. Dont expect it to be perfect, cookie cutter or how you would of done it. Im learning as I go, maybe the next one wont be so high. :smokin:

33's almost all the way flexed up.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/flexy.jpg

Far enough. Good luck with the build.

:eek: Holy shit! Did GreatWhite just post a pic of his rig???.......... Yes, yes he did! :flipoff2:

nicely done sir.. :smokin:

and yes photobucket will make all the pics you post that size right there.. at least everything i've ever posted was that size..

and yes photobucket will make all the pics you post that size right there.. at least everything i've ever posted was that size..

You can make it resize to whatever size you like.

he was askin me if it automatically makes all the pics you post that size..

so.. yeah, unless you change it..

The frame rails are so mangled that its hard to get the stiffeners close enough to weld on. Only got half of one stiffener on today. Tips? I need to spread the uni frame rails out in spots in order to contact the stiffeners.

I did get this started.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/driverfloor.jpg

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/passengerfloor.jpg

with the floor missing that looks REALLY easy :laughing: its hard when the floor is intact :lmao:

with the floor missing that looks REALLY easy :laughing: its hard when the floor is intact :lmao:

What better time to tear them out and fix them then now? Right? :flipoff2:
Id have to cut them up for the boatsides anyways.

Cut out the rockers
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/boatsides1.jpg

Placed the slots for the supports. The 5"x3" isnt there yet obviously and the angles on the supports need cut.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/boatsides.jpg

Stiffeners and long arms are on. You can see the bolts I had to use to pull the frame rails to the stiffeners.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/stiffeners.jpg

Dont forget to change your brake lines! :flipoff2:

yes as well as shocks and trac bar.

Still needs skinned but that will come in a few weeks.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/boatside3.jpg

Painted it
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/boatside2.jpg

Drivers side floor is in. I wanted to weld it in and do it alot nicer but Im really pressed for time and Im trying like hell to have it done by the 17th.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/dsrearfloor.jpg

I am just happy that Greatwhite finally stopped farming Pigs and bought a digital camera and posted a pic of his "driveway ornament"

I'm a newbie so I hope this is not too much of a stupid question. Are the frame stiffeners custom built or did you order a kit from some where? I ask because I am going to start a build of an 88 Cherokee and was thinking about putting a Scout II frame under it, but if I can’t find one affordable the stiffeners might work. :confused:

This is the rear section of frame on the drivers side. The hole in the frame is where the fuel tank filler hose used to pass through.

Im planning to throw some box inside the frame rail and plate the outside. Thoughts?

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/framecrack1.jpg

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/framecrack2.jpg

box on inside and plate the outer sounds like a good idea if there's enough material left to weld to. Is that from rust?

Forget that, backhalf it :D

My rear bumper insertion peices go like 24" inside the "uni-rail" :D welded to the whole like a huge rosette with 1/8" plate all over it. I used .120 2x4 inside the rail.


EDIT- oh yea, that sheetmetal liner in the oval hole is a BITCH to get out. :laughing:

box on inside and plate the outer sounds like a good idea if there's enough material left to weld to. Is that from rust?

Forget that, backhalf it :D

Its not rusted very badly but there is some surface rust. Mostly due to dropping off rock ledges and landing on the rear bumper I believe.

My rear bumper insertion peices go like 24" inside the "uni-rail" :D welded to the whole like a huge rosette with 1/8" plate all over it. I used .120 2x4 inside the rail.


EDIT- oh yea, that sheetmetal liner in the oval hole is a BITCH to get out. :laughing:

My rear bumper insert ends where the crack on the bottom is. I notched the 2x3 to slide under that to catch one more bolt hole. Ill extend it.

Any updates on this??

Any updates on this??

Sold my Stock daily driver XJ and I bought a 5.9 ZJ on 33's.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/zj/98zj002.jpg


Had a good friend weld the frame up on the trail XJ with some support in Nov of '10.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/framefix3.jpg


Then I sold the 5.9 in Dec '10 and bought a serious POS 2.5L YJ.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/yj/yj.jpg


I traded the YJ in on a TJ. 1" lift, 245's. D30/D35 Rusted and broken frame.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/tj/side.jpg

http://crawlinrocks.com/hosted/tj/frameswap/break.jpg

http://crawlinrocks.com/hosted/tj/frameswap/rustframe.jpg


In January of '11 I had a mishap while recovering another Jeep.
http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/broken/window.jpg

http://www.crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/broken/ballj.jpg


So I got pissed at it and scrapped it.
http://crawlinrocks.com/hosted/xj/stripped.jpg


The TJ now sits like this.
http://crawlinrocks.com/hosted/tj/jeepwheel.jpg

Just kidding, that was during the frame swap.

Its currently sitting like this. 33's, 3" suspension, 1.25" BL, 1" MML, highline, D30/D44
http://stagger4x4.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2334.0;attach=329; image


I really miss having a daily driver (the 5.9) and having the XJ to beat on. I dont like the TJ at all. Mainly due to space issues and having 3 kids.

So to recap, the XJ is scrapped.

haha love the "just kidding". real shame the xjs gone, was lookin like a real nice build

Man you have gone through some Jeeps. The frame on that TJ was fawked! the body didn't look that bad though..

haha love the "just kidding". real shame the xjs gone, was lookin like a real nice build

I miss it every time I wheel the TJ honestly. The fuckin TJ breaks a lot. The XJ didnt.

Man you have gone through some Jeeps. The frame on that TJ was fawked! the body didn't look that bad though..

The tub is starting to show the rust. Mainly in the wheel wells in front of the rear tires. I need to cut out the bad spots and patch them at some point before I sell it, trade it, or junk it.