: Its all about the little things: Trailer edition


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Mr.N
10-06-2009, 06:44 PM
There is a nice thread in the General section, its all about the little things. Figured we need a trailer edition. :smokin:

Lets see those little details.
The little attention getters that make you look and go, "damn, thats nice" or "damn, that's a good idea."


1. Nice place to store a spare tire
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/toolbox/IMG_2449.jpg - nissancrawler



2. Built in Storage
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/ddement/trailer005.jpg -whistle pig



3. Purpose built trailer
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=305616&stc=1&d=1179855730 -rotozuk



4. Mini Ramps
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=323177&d=1188609088 -Chris



5. Wiring; use extension cord
http://littlekeylime.com/MrN/img/trailer/DSC01152.JPG- Mr.N




6. Add a camper
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3186/goldendale091xw4.jpg - pbmcauliffe

Mechanos
10-06-2009, 07:15 PM
Under belly spare tire winch:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=361148&stc=1&d=1206410193

Homemade 10° bevel washers to bolt the spare tire winch mount to the tapered flange of the C-channel crossmembers:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=361149&stc=1&d=1206410193

Used a lug nut the same size as the wheels use to drive the winch so the same tire tool used to remove the wheel can operate the winch:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=361150&stc=1&d=1206410193

Mr.N
10-06-2009, 07:18 PM
Duals
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=207024&stc=1&d=1127416890 - unknown

Side doors
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=293559&stc=1&d=1174168207 -RedBullJeep


Frenched lights
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=190393&stc=1&d=1117810048 -Ken Carter / BRUISER

http://www.championtrailers.com/utility/pop-up_images/UTILITY3.jpg

Mr.N
10-06-2009, 07:38 PM
spare tire carriers that slide into the pockett stakes
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=413501&d=1231379896 - TexasDick



http://www.farmbox.com/images/7WayTrailerEnd.jpg

RE:Todd
10-06-2009, 08:06 PM
There is a nice thread in the General section, its all about the little things. Figured we need a trailer edition. :smokin:
6. Add a camper
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3186/goldendale091xw4.jpg - pbmcauliffe That's a standard PackRat trailer, nothing custom about it, except the Jeep is way over the limit for what you can carry on that deck.

76scoutman
10-07-2009, 07:39 AM
I couldn't see my gooseneck ball with my quad cab and a tool box. Solution, I welded a tab onto the hitch of the gooseneck, mounted a mirror and angled it down so I could see where my ball was. :D

Now I can hit my ball first time, everytime. :flipoff2:

Urban Wheeler
10-07-2009, 09:49 AM
Most of the people I know have trailers with drop centers, makes it nice to be able to throw shit in the middle and not have to worry about it sliding off. One guy put lights in the middle of his trailer so he can have light to see by when strapping it down at night.

void_of_light
10-07-2009, 02:23 PM
When I stop borrowing my dad's trailer and get my own. I plan on wiring the Jeep lights to work with the trailer lights. Using led on both should keep the amperage draw low.

A friend of mine keeps a set of trailer lights mounted to speaker magnets in his toolbox. That way no matter what he pulls it will at least have working lights.

Somebody on here wired the breakaway battery to run the trailers emergency flashers in case they had to leave it on the side of the road at night.

some zilch
10-07-2009, 06:34 PM
When I stop borrowing my dad's trailer and get my own. I plan on wiring the Jeep lights to work with the trailer lights. Using led on both should keep the amperage draw low.

A friend of mine keeps a set of trailer lights mounted to speaker magnets in his toolbox. That way no matter what he pulls it will at least have working lights.

Somebody on here wired the breakaway battery to run the trailers emergency flashers in case they had to leave it on the side of the road at night.

wasnt that nissancrawler?

void_of_light
10-07-2009, 06:57 PM
Yes it was, I couldn't find it earlier. Thanks :D

Lots of good ideas in his thread.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612455

Harold Phipps
10-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Lots of good ideas!
One bad one is using an extension cord for lighting.
It really doesn't weather well. Spend the money and get real trailer wiring, the good 4 wire stuff isn't that bad. Buy it at truck/trailer parts suppliers (Midwest Wheel, Redneck Trailer supply, etc.).
And the real trailer junction boxes are way handy!

Mr.N
10-07-2009, 09:41 PM
Lots of good ideas!
One bad one is using an extension cord for lighting.
It really doesn't weather well. Spend the money and get real trailer wiring, the good 4 wire stuff isn't that bad. Buy it at truck/trailer parts suppliers (Midwest Wheel, Redneck Trailer supply, etc.).
And the real trailer junction boxes are way handy!
Tried several different "real trailer wiring" kits... wire was ok and at best matched the extension cord inner wires. The insulation on a extension cord is much better than the loom those kits' come with...

I've seen this stuff last a long time, so unless you've some photograph proof or can dive into a technical reason... next

Big91RustyBucket
10-07-2009, 10:06 PM
Wow lots off good stuff here.

nissancrawler
10-07-2009, 11:56 PM
wasnt that nissancrawler?

Yep, as void said.

locking ammo cans on trailer, note the hold down and can is removable for side loading with a forklift (has saved my ass several times).

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00617.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00618.jpg

Winch mount:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00728.jpg

Wiring center in small ammo box for battery disconnect, volt gauge, loading lights, switch for vehicle charging, hazards for trailer in case it has to be left alone on the road.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00632.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00634.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00638.jpg

Close up of the spare tire mount (very simple and easy):

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00732.jpg

Camper stabilizer jacks for loading (I found when winching a heavy vehicle up, it almost unloaded the rear suspension of that vehicle, putting almost all of that vehicles weight on the very end of the trailer, in turn lifting the rear suspension on the tow rig WAY too much for comfort):

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00731.jpg

Adjustable hitch worn because the bolts couldn't be tight enough without bending coupler, wore the holes 1/4" larger than stock, and caused a thunk which took me a while to find.

Sleeved the coupler so the bolts could be tightened properly:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00738.jpg

welded bushings on tongue to give bolts more surface area to wear on:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00740.jpg

CSP
10-08-2009, 08:54 AM
Tried several different "real trailer wiring" kits... wire was ok and at best matched the extension cord inner wires. The insulation on a extension cord is much better than the loom those kits' come with...

I've never used a "kit", but I have bought bulk trailer wire and the insulation has always been at least three times as thick as any extension cord I've ever owned.

Harold Phipps
10-08-2009, 11:16 AM
Ditto, I'm talking about TRUCK and o.t.r. trailer wiring, not Wal Mart cheap ass 4 wires you can see the color of thru the whole loom crap, I'm talking about black outer cover, with spiral wound "stuff", and 4 or 7 different colored wires of 12 gauge wiring,,, lasts much longer than any extension cord insulation. Granted all the extension cord I have seen cause problems on trailers was very old, and there are better materials being used in today's cords, they are still inferior to REAL trailer lighting wire.:shaking:

Travis Waldher
10-08-2009, 02:54 PM
Ditto, I'm talking about TRUCK and o.t.r. trailer wiring, not Wal Mart cheap ass 4 wires you can see the color of thru the whole loom crap, I'm talking about black outer cover, with spiral wound "stuff", and 4 or 7 different colored wires of 12 gauge wiring,,, lasts much longer than any extension cord insulation. Granted all the extension cord I have seen cause problems on trailers was very old, and there are better materials being used in today's cords, they are still inferior to REAL trailer lighting wire.:shaking:

That said, 10 years and counting on my extension cord wiring on my trailer with no problems.

angryblack
10-08-2009, 03:02 PM
if your gonna do it with cable then use s.o cord. or at least s.o.w. cord..

also know as bus drop cable. its designed to be resistant to oils heat weather ozone and aklilies. but its commonly more costly than the high end trailer cable as it has stress cords in it.

My tips would be make your spare tire mount from a trailer spindle and mount a brake drum to it.. i usually try to buy them new..That way when you kill a bearing or hub you have the parts right on your trailer.

Mr.N
10-08-2009, 03:44 PM
they are still inferior to REAL trailer lighting wire.:shaking:Well, then get off your lazy butt an show me...
A link, a picture... something




(And I wasn't talking wally world trailer wiring)

Mr.N
10-08-2009, 03:47 PM
Reinforced fenders, can walk on them now
http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/img/trailer/DSC01089.JPG

twoslo4five0
10-08-2009, 04:51 PM
26 led lights :flipoff2:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/twoslo4five0/trailer%20project/004-1.jpg

chrome,lots of chrome and more lights :flipoff2: oh yeah backup lights and observation deck on top

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/twoslo4five0/general%20pics/014.jpg

Albin
10-08-2009, 06:44 PM
Large tool box, rub rail and reflective tape.

Extra rear LED tail light, it's extra bright, even during the day.

Never Monday
10-08-2009, 06:52 PM
If you want upgraded wire get boat wire. It's tinned copper stranded core, very flexible. It'll stand up to any crap you can throw at it on the road.

mingoglia
10-08-2009, 07:07 PM
If you ever had to leave your trailer on the side of the road and someone opened your ammo can they're likely to send the bomb squad. :) Very thorough job. Definitely all about the details:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/chevyman_57/trailer/DSC00638.jpg

Grindin_Gears
10-08-2009, 08:51 PM
If you ever had to leave your trailer on the side of the road and someone opened your ammo can they're likely to send the bomb squad. :)



They sure as shit wouldnt steal it then:smokin:

rajincajingt
10-09-2009, 06:39 AM
great stuff in this thread...

keep em coming.

wanderer-RRORC
10-09-2009, 07:56 PM
Lots of good ideas!
One bad one is using an extension cord for lighting.
It really doesn't weather well. Spend the money and get real trailer wiring, the good 4 wire stuff isn't that bad. Buy it at truck/trailer parts suppliers (Midwest Wheel, Redneck Trailer supply, etc.).
And the real trailer junction boxes are way handy!

Tried several different "real trailer wiring" kits... wire was ok and at best matched the extension cord inner wires. The insulation on a extension cord is much better than the loom those kits' come with...

I've seen this stuff last a long time, so unless you've some photograph proof or can dive into a technical reason... next


I too have used the ext cord...

DID YOU KNOW that almost ALL the manufactured home haulers just have the lights on a 3 prong house cord? and a plugin sticking out of the truck..and a 100ft ext cord on a wind-up reel??...just plugger in and when yer done..unplug and wind-up!!

the cord will last MUCH longer than the standard wire..

Harold Phipps
10-09-2009, 10:53 PM
So the manufactured home haulers use HOW MANY extension cords?
You need a ground
left turn
right turn
tail/marker(and cheat and use this for the amber flashing light)
brake
So they are using two extension cords? Or are you going to try and tell me they are using multiplexing?:laughing:
I would use 2 extension cords if I were transporting manufactured homes too, because I would always have a cord come loose and would DRAG it in two, so they need CHEAP, not good.
At least 1/2 their miles are pulling air.
That good 7 wire loom stuff aint cheap!

Mr.N
10-10-2009, 01:16 AM
Wire doesn't look that much better to me...
(I never did find a kit locally that looked as nice as the picture, and had 12g wire)

Is there anything better?

http://www.etrailer.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/rn/light/7wire_close.jpg
vs
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4696094/extensioncord3_Full.jpg

Landslide
10-10-2009, 05:02 AM
Start a new thread bickering about wiring mmmk.:shaking:

h8to wrk
10-10-2009, 06:12 AM
on my old snowmobile trailer I used to run the wires through an old hose to keep the elements off

TexasA&M
10-10-2009, 07:01 AM
On my low boy trailer, the previous ownder ran all of the wiring through conduit so that it wouldn't get ripped off when dirving through the brush (or anywhere other than a paved road).

montecarlo31
10-12-2009, 07:51 AM
I copied something off our lowboys for my trailer, I added a 12V cigarette marine style plug on the back of the trailer (each side) and then I can plug in a flashing beacon should my load stick past my trailer or over the sides (102"). I keep a magnetic 12v LED strobe in my tool box and just slap it on the trailer when needed. I'll also use it if I'm going to be traveling in in climate weather you have more visibility.

just another idea.

Valley Auto
10-13-2009, 04:54 PM
bump

PAToyota
10-13-2009, 05:42 PM
I copied something off our lowboys for my trailer, I added a 12V cigarette marine style plug on the back of the trailer

I like that idea, but just curious if there a reason you opted for the cigarette style plug over other options?

Flatline's Up!
10-13-2009, 06:36 PM
I like that idea, but just curious if there a reason you opted for the cigarette style plug over other options?

prb because the lights come prewired w/coily cord and cig plug

wanderer-RRORC
10-13-2009, 06:38 PM
So the manufactured home haulers use HOW MANY extension cords?
You need a ground
left turn
right turn
tail/marker(and cheat and use this for the amber flashing light)
brake
So they are using two extension cords? Or are you going to try and tell me they are using multiplexing?:laughing:
I would use 2 extension cords if I were transporting manufactured homes too, because I would always have a cord come loose and would DRAG it in two, so they need CHEAP, not good.
At least 1/2 their miles are pulling air.
That good 7 wire loom stuff aint cheap!

ok..ya cant transport at night...the trucks they use have intigraged brake-turnsignal lights...

brakes...yea right...:homer:

so you need a LEFT,RIGHT,ground...no low's no axle brakes..

I copied something off our lowboys for my trailer, I added a 12V cigarette marine style plug on the back of the trailer (each side) and then I can plug in a flashing beacon should my load stick past my trailer or over the sides (102"). I keep a magnetic 12v LED strobe in my tool box and just slap it on the trailer when needed. I'll also use it if I'm going to be traveling in in climate weather you have more visibility.

just another idea.

had a neighbor buddy that did the EXACT same thing to his semi...made it EASY for beacons! and worklights when loading at night!

Mr. Mindless
10-13-2009, 07:36 PM
they sure as hell do run electric brakes on those MH axles. I'm sure they don't put them on there for looks.

and yeah most oversize can't pull at night but last I checked running lights are needed in the rain. they stay home when it's wet out? that's a tough way to make money.

Maybe the sketchy fly by night crews get away with 3 wires but nobody who actually fills out a log book and has DOT numbers would dare go that sketchy.

wanderer-RRORC
10-14-2009, 08:32 AM
they sure as hell do run electric brakes on those MH axles. I'm sure they don't put them on there for looks.

and yeah most oversize can't pull at night but last I checked running lights are needed in the rain. they stay home when it's wet out? that's a tough way to make money.

Maybe the sketchy fly by night crews get away with 3 wires but nobody who actually fills out a log book and has DOT numbers would dare go that sketchy.

just tellin ya what Ive seen...:D

theres some scary shit drivin down the highways!@!

randii
10-14-2009, 09:10 AM
Well, then get off your lazy butt an show me...
A link, a picture... something
(And I wasn't talking wally world trailer wiring)
Paging Harold Phipps, CSP, Travis Waldher, Never Monday, wanderer-RRORC, Mr. Mindless... please provide a picture or delete. :flipoff2: This thread otherwise oozes excellence! :cool2:

Back on topic, here's a double-wheel 1500#-rated swivel jack.
http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_012739_imageset_01?$main-Large$
...for when you don't want to trust your heavy not-so-perfectly-balanced load to a spindly 750#-rated jack that just sinks its single wheel into the dirt.

Randii

YellowSub1962
10-14-2009, 06:00 PM
wheels are for people who can't park their trailer correctly before they disconnect :flipoff2:

Actually, on a related note to your picture- one of the best things I did was put a side mount jack on that folds up instead of the POS "through the tongue right behind the coupler so you can't open your tailgate and so you can drag it on and off road through almost any dip" that came on it. Just say no to center tongue jacks :laughing:

They come in bolt on or weld on, so ANYONE can do it if you have more than 3 fingers and at least 1 thumb :D

:usa:

binksman
10-14-2009, 08:03 PM
The two best small things I did to my car/scrap hauling trailer that sees anywhere from 1-3 tons on it each month:

- a 7k lb square drop leg jack from TSC. The drop leg gives me lots of adjustability with height and it stores just a couple inches below the tongue height. Best of all, I don't have to worry about the jack folding or the swivel rings breaking no matter what the tongue weight may be. Cars load quickly- 3 ton of furnaces and brake rotors do not :)

-A good winch mount is pretty common, as is wiring the winch to a car battery that doubles as the break-away power source. But I put quick connectors on my winch line and ran power lines to the back of the truck for a more reliable power source. No matter what I tried, I just could not keep the trailer battery charged, mostly because there is little charging ability through the #7 wire and because the trailer may sit for weeks at a time being waiting for a full load. I've looked into solar panels for as trickle chargers, but the price for good ones that can withstand being mounted on the trailer just aren't worth it.

Great thread, I'm subscribed and am looking forward to more :)

CSP
10-15-2009, 09:13 AM
Paging Harold Phipps, CSP, Travis Waldher, Never Monday, wanderer-RRORC, Mr. Mindless... please provide a picture or delete. :flipoff2:

I actually have a chunk of the good wire sitting on my workbench that I could take a picture of. The question is do I really care enough to make it a priority over all the other things I have to do when I'm not at work. Nope.

Harold Phipps
10-15-2009, 03:08 PM
x2
If ya all are too lazy to look it up on rednecktrailer.com, or waddle your ass into NAPA,,,,,,:flipoff2:

montecarlo31
10-15-2009, 07:58 PM
I like that idea, but just curious if there a reason you opted for the cigarette style plug over other options?


Yes, I had easy access to the 12v cigarette style plug in strobes (pretty common in the equipment world). As mentioned I can also use my GoLight at night on the trailer to see what's going on.

You could wire it up any way but 12v is the way to go in my opinion.

randii
10-15-2009, 09:53 PM
...do I really care enough to make it a priority over all the other things I have to do when I'm not at work. Nope.
If ya all are too lazy to look it up on rednecktrailer.com, or waddle your ass into NAPA,,,,,,:flipoff2:
Option B would be lovely then for you folks who keep cluttering up the best thread TR&T has seen in a while. :rolleyes: ...or maybe if you're not gonna stay on-track with the topic, you could just stop posting? :shaking:

Anyway, on with the good stuff... how 'bout corner storage, from: http://www.letstalksnow.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15187
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/synner/trailerchainboxmockupSmall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/synner/loadtrailchainboxdooropenSmall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/synner/loadtrailchainboxSmall.jpg

Randii

welndmn
10-16-2009, 02:45 PM
I couldn't see my gooseneck ball with my quad cab and a tool box. Solution, I welded a tab onto the hitch of the gooseneck, mounted a mirror and angled it down so I could see where my ball was. :D

Now I can hit my ball first time, everytime. :flipoff2:


I did this one too.
I used a 24inch security mirror because I can't see anything :D
I put it on a magnet mount so I just stick it on when I need it.

nightcrawlers
10-16-2009, 03:34 PM
those corner storage boxed are quite clever. i dig it :smokin:

txzuk1988
10-16-2009, 04:45 PM
those corner storage boxed are quite clever. i dig it :smokin:

dido, I've been waiting for that idea!

angryblack
10-16-2009, 07:59 PM
Forgot this one untill i slipped and bust my fawkin ass on my new trucks angle iron ramps in the rain today.:mad3:

Serrated catwalk and some square tubing under it makes for super grippy and strong ramps.Rain sleet snow or hail these things will grip.. I have some 24" wide and 6' long ones from my old trailer.. When i rebuild the dove on my new truck i plan on cutting them shorter and using them again.The only pic i have is a catalog pic though.

Also i saw a equipment trailer a guy had that ran bags to support the load.. Rode smoother and he had it setup to dump the air and the dove hit the ground..Ie; no ramps needed to load the skid steer.

chunky
10-16-2009, 11:33 PM
i ran a pilot car for wide loads for about a year and the best thing i seen was the bike magnit lights they are bright led and AA batt powerd, they have 3 blinking settings and on setting they kept us rolling thru the night many times

jstarnes
10-17-2009, 07:09 AM
Forgot this one untill i slipped and bust my fawkin ass on my new trucks angle iron ramps in the rain today.:mad3:

Serrated catwalk and some square tubing under it makes for super grippy and strong ramps.Rain sleet snow or hail these things will grip.. I have some 24" wide and 6' long ones from my old trailer.. When i rebuild the dove on my new truck i plan on cutting them shorter and using them again.The only pic i have is a catalog pic though.

Also i saw a equipment trailer a guy had that ran bags to support the load.. Rode smoother and he had it setup to dump the air and the dove hit the ground..Ie; no ramps needed to load the skid steer.


I believe the technical term for it is "Grip Strut" and it works well. We have a length down each side of our big trailer. We had to run tube down the center to support the weight (32K) but it has held up great for many years.

funkskunk
10-17-2009, 08:19 AM
that "grip strut" works great for leaving teeth marks all on your back & arms when your tying down the jeep too! That shit is sharp!

angryblack
10-18-2009, 02:50 PM
yeah its super sharp when new..

grip strut is the same but different shape..catwalk is shaped to hold weight without much or any bracing..kinda like green and red apples same damned thing just different tatse.

rajincajingt
10-19-2009, 12:35 PM
any body got any tips or tricks on mounting perm. plates?!?!?

i just got my second replacement plate so i want this one to last!

Flatline's Up!
10-19-2009, 12:40 PM
any body got any tips or tricks on mounting perm. plates?!?!?

i just got my second replacement plate so i want this one to last!

I always like curving it w/the fender and rivets/bolts etc if it's cool w/your local law folks

Soup Man
10-19-2009, 12:57 PM
If you get flack for that, try laying down a thin sheet of polycarb. on top and riveting/sealing that. Keeps the plate new and where I am you aren't supposed to drill into the plate.

Mr. Mindless
10-19-2009, 01:14 PM
on an open center trailer, throw the plate on the second cross beam from the rear. I'm sure if you had that option, or had a tall enough rear support for the whole plate, you wouldn't be asking the question though.

I'm with Flatline on fender mounting vertically if you don't have other good space though. I've also seen them laid flat on the beavertail, but I would expect more LE static from that than from a 90˚ rotated mount on the fender.

rajincajingt
10-19-2009, 01:20 PM
on an open center trailer, throw the plate on the second cross beam from the rear. I'm sure if you had that option, or had a tall enough rear support for the whole plate, you wouldn't be asking the question though.

I'm with Flatline on fender mounting vertically if you don't have other good space though. I've also seen them laid flat on the beavertail, but I would expect more LE static from that than from a 90˚ rotated mount on the fender.

i hear ya, i got no room on the back of the trailer and it was mounted to a flimsy holder below the light.

ill try the fender first...

im sure the LEO will not give me too much shit, ive been towing it for a year with out one on there at all. anything is an improvement from here!

dumb
10-19-2009, 02:47 PM
...Also i saw a equipment trailer a guy had that ran bags to support the load.. Rode smoother and he had it setup to dump the air and the dove hit the ground..Ie; no ramps needed to load the skid steer.

This is something I've wanted to do for a very long time. If done right you might even be able to have OBA on the trailer. :smokin: I have been thinkging about a new trailer project... :rolleyes:

Dan Dibble
10-19-2009, 07:07 PM
Added hookups for double towing if needed.

http://www.fototime.com/{C6D1BFA9-8EF8-4EFE-A087-64A4F419F64A}/standardpict/exp=f&modt=39885.5857690741&ssdyn=1/P3130392.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{45CD9909-A4BE-4297-80CA-2515212AC7BF}/standardpict/exp=f&modt=39885.5863074421&ssdyn=1/P3130395.JPG


Heres a link to the trailer pics
http://www.fototime.com/inv/9ADADD36A16BE69


Dan

mudskipper4x4
10-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Instead of buying a fancy lock to protect my trailer, I just made one out of some 4" pipe about 9" long and welded some heavy chain to it. Slide it on and lock it up.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq86/willturner_01/0927091621-00.jpg

three60fish
10-19-2009, 08:30 PM
Instead of buying a fancy lock to protect my trailer, I just made one out of some 4" pipe about 9" long and welded some heavy chain to it. Slide it on and lock it up.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq86/willturner_01/0927091621-00.jpg

Now that is the shit, you could seriously lock that fawker down!:smokin:

Big91RustyBucket
10-19-2009, 10:10 PM
Added hookups for double towing if needed.

http://www.fototime.com/{C6D1BFA9-8EF8-4EFE-A087-64A4F419F64A}/standardpict/exp=f&modt=39885.5857690741&ssdyn=1/P3130392.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{45CD9909-A4BE-4297-80CA-2515212AC7BF}/standardpict/exp=f&modt=39885.5863074421&ssdyn=1/P3130395.JPG


Heres a link to the trailer pics
http://www.fototime.com/inv/9ADADD36A16BE69


Dan

How'd you wire it that way? Run the wire from the front plug or jump into harness in back?

Dan Dibble
10-19-2009, 11:59 PM
I ran the harness down one side of the frame and just continued it to the rear plug.

Dan

Dan Dibble
10-20-2009, 12:01 AM
Instead of buying a fancy lock to protect my trailer, I just made one out of some 4" pipe about 9" long and welded some heavy chain to it. Slide it on and lock it up.

Great idea!

Better lock those chains and hooks also. I have seen trailers get gone by way of using the chains.

Dan

wanderer-RRORC
10-20-2009, 05:06 AM
Great idea!

Better lock those chains and hooks also. I have seen trailers get gone by way of using the chains.

Dan

I always use the high-security locks too (all 3 keyed same so I could lock my ramps up too!)...put a ball on a plate and locked it in the tounge...then had threaded links and just took my chains OFF...cabled both axles...and blocked it in a parking pit behind the house...

yes..paranoid much...(course I paid over 2K for the trailer..and Im cheap!)

lock
http://media.rei.com/media/962492.jpg

rajincajingt
10-20-2009, 07:27 AM
I always use the high-security locks too (all 3 keyed same so I could lock my ramps up too!)...put a ball on a plate and locked it in the tounge...then had threaded links and just took my chains OFF...cabled both axles...and blocked it in a parking pit behind the house...

yes..paranoid much...(course I paid over 2K for the trailer..and Im cheap!)

lock
http://media.rei.com/media/962492.jpg

wow, i live down town new orleans and i dont even go that far, but you have some great ideas there!!!

MattS
10-20-2009, 09:09 AM
Instead of buying a fancy lock to protect my trailer, I just made one out of some 4" pipe about 9" long and welded some heavy chain to it. Slide it on and lock it up.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq86/willturner_01/0927091621-00.jpg

I could leave with your trailer in 30 seconds. It's called a pair of bolt cutters. :(

I use one of these: http://www.drawtite.com/63226.html

If installed properly it about impossible to get off without a sawsall or cutoff saw of some type. The loop part is larger than even a huge chain and if installed properly it's so close to the coupler that you can't get a good bite with a pair of bolt cutters.

Yes I keep bolt cutters under the seat of my truck. If you lose the key you WILL have to cut this off with something else. :homer::homer:

ChiScouter
10-20-2009, 09:41 AM
I could leave with your trailer in 30 seconds. It's called a pair of bolt cutters. :(

I use one of these: http://www.drawtite.com/63226.html

If installed properly it about impossible to get off without a sawsall or cutoff saw of some type. The loop part is larger than even a huge chain and if installed properly it's so close to the coupler that you can't get a good bite with a pair of bolt cutters.

Yes I keep bolt cutters under the seat of my truck. If you lose the key you WILL have to cut this off with something else. :homer::homer:

How long would it take to cut through that with a abrasive cutoff wheel in a 12v drill, Id say 45 seconds tops, so it looks to me like your 45 dollar coupler bought you 15 seconds

mudskipper4x4
10-20-2009, 09:47 AM
I could leave with your trailer in 30 seconds. It's called a pair of bolt cutters. :(

I use one of these: http://www.drawtite.com/63226.html

If installed properly it about impossible to get off without a sawsall or cutoff saw of some type. The loop part is larger than even a huge chain and if installed properly it's so close to the coupler that you can't get a good bite with a pair of bolt cutters.

Yes I keep bolt cutters under the seat of my truck. If you lose the key you WILL have to cut this off with something else. :homer::homer:

I carry a torch set in my truck(welder), I could cut that drawtite lock off in 25 seconds:flipoff2: The point was it keeps the honest man out and helps deter all others and it was cheap.

MattS
10-20-2009, 10:47 AM
Sure, but if it's as easy to cut off as a padlock. Why not just USE a padlock.

KyleQ
10-20-2009, 11:02 AM
My new Load Trail trailer has a nice bulldog hitch and swivel jack - no wheels here..
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/D3thM3tal/1974%20Bronco/Trailer/th_DSCI0117.jpg (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/D3thM3tal/1974%20Bronco/Trailer/DSCI0117.jpg)

Frenched lights, 1/4" diamond plate drive over ramps, and doors on the ramp storage. Doors will get padlocks to slow down thieves.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/D3thM3tal/1974%20Bronco/Trailer/th_utf-8BSU1HMDAxMzUtMjAwOTEwMDctMTgxM.jpg (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/D3thM3tal/1974%20Bronco/Trailer/utf-8BSU1HMDAxMzUtMjAwOTEwMDctMTgxM.jpg)

Oh - and this trailer is WIDE :smokin:

welndmn
10-20-2009, 11:49 AM
I could leave with your trailer in 30 seconds. It's called a pair of bolt cutters. :(

I use one of these: http://www.drawtite.com/63226.html

If installed properly it about impossible to get off without a sawsall or cutoff saw of some type. The loop part is larger than even a huge chain and if installed properly it's so close to the coupler that you can't get a good bite with a pair of bolt cutters.

Yes I keep bolt cutters under the seat of my truck. If you lose the key you WILL have to cut this off with something else. :homer::homer:

Thief! :flipoff2:

MattS
10-20-2009, 12:10 PM
Thief! :flipoff2:

Some would say that. But if I have papers to cut the lock, you didn't make your payments it's not yours anymore. :p

twoslo4five0
10-20-2009, 08:31 PM
angle iron to widen the trailer.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/twoslo4five0/002-10.jpg

also hinged fenders to flip up when loading.also d rings.lots of them

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/twoslo4five0/003-9.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/twoslo4five0/011-1.jpg

CSP
10-21-2009, 10:17 AM
Sure, but if it's as easy to cut off as a padlock. Why not just USE a padlock.

Nowhere to put a padlock with a bulldog coupler. Looks like the guy with the pipe and chain has a bulldog.

lojim
10-21-2009, 12:52 PM
Okay - not for OHV's but it hauls my ATV's very well:

Converted boat trailer. Left the hand winch so when I kill my quad again I can load it:

http://www.limitlessoffroad.com/gallery/2_20_10_09_5_05_52.jpeg

Pockets for removable sides:

http://www.limitlessoffroad.com/gallery/2_20_10_09_5_07_08.jpeg

http://www.limitlessoffroad.com/gallery/2_20_10_09_5_08_00.jpeg

And of course - loaded. It works great for quads and anything I need it to haul:

http://www.limitlessoffroad.com/gallery/2_20_10_09_5_09_15.jpeg

DirtRoads
10-21-2009, 02:23 PM
I could leave with your trailer in 30 seconds. It's called a pair of bolt cutters. :(

I use one of these: http://www.drawtite.com/63226.html

If installed properly it about impossible to get off without a sawsall or cutoff saw of some type. The loop part is larger than even a huge chain and if installed properly it's so close to the coupler that you can't get a good bite with a pair of bolt cutters.

Yes I keep bolt cutters under the seat of my truck. If you lose the key you WILL have to cut this off with something else. :homer::homer:

I used that same lock on a 20-something foot enclosed trailer that belonged to a boy scout troop, a trailer we don't have anymore. From the lock they left behind, it looked like two hits with a huge chisel or something right above where the hoop slides into the yellow couple made short work of things.

So now, 1.5" cables sunk in concrete with much better locks.. joys of living in memphis :shaking:

ShmUDE
10-21-2009, 10:10 PM
Nowhere to put a padlock with a bulldog coupler. Looks like the guy with the pipe and chain has a bulldog.

you can get a lock for it. its not a padlock style lock, its a bar that goes through it and has one of those round key's to it.

looks like this only skinnier and a different style lock.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/OG/0000_Bully_Hardened_Steel_Trailer_Recieving_Lock.j pg

Soundguy
10-21-2009, 10:17 PM
you can get a lock for it. its not a padlock style lock, its a bar that goes through it and has one of those round key's to it.

looks like this only skinnier and a different style lock.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/OG/0000_Bully_Hardened_Steel_Trailer_Recieving_Lock.j pg

I had one of those for my low boy with a bulldog hitch and after I accidentally dropped my 4 way lug wrench and broke the head off of it I realized it was a joke.

thecj3man
10-22-2009, 03:58 AM
I had one of those for my low boy with a bulldog hitch and after I accidentally dropped my 4 way lug wrench and broke the head off of it I realized it was a joke.

Did you ever find a suitable lock for your bulldog style coupler?

WP

yozsi
10-22-2009, 10:08 AM
I had one of those for my low boy with a bulldog hitch and after I accidentally dropped my 4 way lug wrench and broke the head off of it I realized it was a joke.

Yea, my 5 pound sledge can knock one of those off a bull dog hitch.

Soundguy
10-22-2009, 10:39 AM
Did you ever find a suitable lock for your bulldog style coupler?

WP

My trailer came with one like this... it jammed and was a POS

http://www.guardianhitch.com/images/g39.gif

then I broke the little pin lock we're talking about.

After that I added removable safety chains, ran some huge chain through the wheels on both sides and took out a cheap insurance policy on it.

YellowSub1962
10-22-2009, 05:14 PM
http://www.guardianhitch.com/images/g39.gif


I have one of these and I like it. you do have to lube it about once a year with some sort of liquid/graphite lube though...just like any barrel lock and the same for the sliding pin.

To contribute another "little" thing, When I put LEDs on my car hauler, I also ran an extra wire for reverse lights. they are great for backing in parking lots, or down the side of the house at night. they also let people approaching from down the street see you are backing up the trailer if you are jacked in a direction that your truck lights aren't visible. I made the boxes outta 3/16" steel so I could just drive over them, but I wish I woulda left a 3/16-1/2" overhang on the top just for a bit of extra protection.

I also hinged the license plate which works great for everything but dropping straight off a curb. The plate still bends before it swings :laughing:


:usa:

KS Toy
10-22-2009, 06:10 PM
Super cool idea on the back up lights!

ScaldedDog
10-22-2009, 07:41 PM
How'd you wire the backup lights? Do the 7-pin plugs have a pin for that?

Mark

YellowSub1962
10-22-2009, 08:15 PM
Super cool idea on the back up lights!

I will never have another trailer without them. I haven't had a chance (in the last year :laughing::rolleyes: ) to put them on my toy hauler yet, but I have them in a box in the garage since b4 I picked up the trailer

How'd you wire the backup lights? Do the 7-pin plugs have a pin for that?

Mark
yup, my Ford does, factory. look at that little picture on the cover of your plug - (I think Ford used the "Aux" pin but I'm not going out to check cause I'm lazy) :)

:usa:

montecarlo31
10-22-2009, 08:44 PM
I will never have another trailer without them. I haven't had a chance (in the last year :laughing::rolleyes: ) to put them on my toy hauler yet, but I have them in a box in the garage since b4 I picked up the trailer


yup, my Ford does, factory. look at that little picture on the cover of your plug - (I think Ford used the "Aux" pin but I'm not going out to check cause I'm lazy) :)

:usa:

you can be a lazy ass but yes, GM and Ford have a backup light spot on the plug. Who cares about dodge...their disposable.

thump93yj
10-23-2009, 08:20 AM
Who cares about dodge...their disposable.

you're dumb



Dodge plugs use the middle pin as aux backup light as well. I wired both my truck and trailers with backup lighting. I put a SPDT switch in the cab and a relay on the lights to control if the lights come on when I shift to reverse, not at all, or constant for loading.

turbomustang
10-23-2009, 09:49 AM
dont trust those yellow drawtie hitches with the loop get lazy one time and back the truck up befor you take the lock offf and just hit it once with your hitch the ball just snaps and falls off lol

montecarlo31
10-23-2009, 09:58 AM
you're dumb


:flipoff2:easy, I kinda figured that any 7 way RV plug was going to be the same. Wouldn't make sense to have to repin every time you switch trucks.

I like your backup light idea. I wouldn't mind figuring out a way to flash the parking lights for towing at nights like a Semi.

Mr. Mindless
10-23-2009, 10:40 AM
the middle pin is spec'd as auxiliary. you can run anything on it that your heart desires by spec, but it's defacto standard use is backup lights.

dopeassjackson
10-24-2009, 07:02 AM
since we are on the topics of locks. hows this one
http://www.tractorsupply.com/trailers-towing/towing-systems/towing-locks/hitch-pin-locks/trailers-towing/towing-systems/towing-locks/hitch-pin-locks/reese-farm-amp-ranch-class-iii-iv-ball-mount-lock-1891153

i just needed a pin and decided why not get a locking on. i dont really worry about the hitch or trailer getting stolen at home.

YellowSub1962
10-24-2009, 07:54 AM
since we are on the topics of locks. hows this one
http://www.tractorsupply.com/trailers-towing/towing-systems/towing-locks/hitch-pin-locks/trailers-towing/towing-systems/towing-locks/hitch-pin-locks/reese-farm-amp-ranch-class-iii-iv-ball-mount-lock-1891153

i just needed a pin and decided why not get a locking on. i dont really worry about the hitch or trailer getting stolen at home.

we're not on the subject, the subject is about little tips and tricks for trailers, this thread just has a few retards that cant read and/or have pbbADD or like to debate for the sake of debating and ruin a good thread :flipoff2:

Search for locking hitch pins, there's a few threads already in this forum. That's the pin I settled for when I couldn't find a true 14K rated pin. I've had 11K behind that one for 500 miles, and 7-8K for 20 thousand r so miles and it shows no wear, so you should be fine for towing a rig on a car trailer/rig. Now get on topic or start your own thread (but search first) :flipoff2:

:usa:

Flatline's Up!
10-24-2009, 09:53 AM
we're not on the subject, the subject is about little tips and tricks for trailers, this thread just has a few retards that cant read and/or have pbbADD or like to debate for the sake of debating and ruin a good thread :flipoff2:
:usa:


fuckin' A, man, Fuckin' A.


here's what I did in my enclosed trailer.
I installed unistrut on horizontally, the shelves are 3/4" plywood and I made the brackets from angle, eye bolts and unistrut nuts, the leading edge has chain supports with biners on it.

Simply lay the edge of the shelf on top of the unistrut, 1/4 turn the eyebolt which locks the uninut in the strut, then attach the biner to the eyebolt on the shelf above.

It allows you to install shelving to carry more crap, or remove them to open up the trailer for large items.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Hank-Chinaski/Truck/P1010032.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Hank-Chinaski/Truck/P1010030.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Hank-Chinaski/Truck/P1010031.jpg

funkskunk
11-15-2009, 03:27 PM
Hidden spare tires

http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/trailer2_407x305.jpg http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/trailer3_407x305.jpg

funkskunk
11-15-2009, 03:29 PM
Another version....

http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/p1010135_250x187.jpg http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/p1010136_250x187.jpg

twoslo4five0
11-15-2009, 03:36 PM
what do you do if you have something on the trailer?take it all off just to get the tire out?

angryblack
11-15-2009, 03:54 PM
You could just get a spare tire winch and weld it under the trailer..I think im gonna do that when i scopre a used tire and wheel for my hualer.

jmhinescj
11-15-2009, 04:41 PM
http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/trailer2_407x305.jpg http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/trailer3_407x305.jpg



http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/p1010135_250x187.jpg http://www.4wdhqs.com/images/p1010136_250x187.jpg[/QUOTE]

That's pretty bad ass.

keepviper13
11-15-2009, 05:24 PM
The "hidden" spare tire in the front seems pretty impractical....

Of the times I've needed a spare for the trailer I can think of NONE where the trailer was empty and those compartments accesible...

twoslo4five0
11-15-2009, 05:25 PM
The "hidden" spare tire in the front seems pretty impractical....

Of the times I've needed a spare for the trailer I can think of NONE where the trailer was empty and those compartments accesible...

this is exactly what i was thinking looks cool,not very functional

Mechanos
11-15-2009, 07:29 PM
You could just get a spare tire winch and weld it under the trailer..I think im gonna do that when i scopre a used tire and wheel for my hualer.

See post #2 in this thread

chevy_man
11-16-2009, 04:41 PM
On one of our work trailers we have a setup for hauling utility poles. It consists of a 2" reciever and light hookup on the back of our trailer. Then a 15' piece of 2" tubing, with a "U" of plate on the end to hold the pole, and lights that plug into the back of the trailer. It does have some pieces of 1" square tube that come out from each end and "V" underneath to brace/gusset it.

I'd take a picture but it's currently being repared as a co-worker backed it into a concrete wall and bent it sideways a foot. When squished in-between concrete and a 20,000 lb. truck shit tends to bend/break evidently.

cams1021
11-16-2009, 06:48 PM
start with a rough 16' open deck trailer

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/860efcb2f5e133c1b2ad8fe7a94e008c.jpg


remove goofy factory bs, install new fenders with supports, dropped about 3" from factory location.. just enough to clear the tires with about an inch with the suspension fully compressed

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/ee295a068e47786369327835bad98e95.jpg

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/f683c7c3e63a3f04617ab026580a8ff6.jpg

Flush in some incandescent lights for nighttime loading, will be powered by the full size 12v truck battery in the tool box I haven't installed yet. Big battery is hooked to break away switch, as well as a waterproof solar panel. I haven't taken any pictures since I put a 2" receiver tube between the lights for a receiver mount winch

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/31052a42f70895e016f36a1de9aa53e9.jpg

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/fd32dff71e07f7a5a03d7c65bce05e27.jpg

still a work in progress...

GONRACIN
11-16-2009, 10:09 PM
we have those loading lights you've got cams1021, on our work trucks (I run the truck at night) they work damn good....

nice trailer you got there, should be awesome when she'll all done...

cams1021
11-17-2009, 04:48 PM
we have those loading lights you've got cams1021, on our work trucks (I run the truck at night) they work damn good....

nice trailer you got there, should be awesome when she'll all done...

Thanks. Only get to work on it a couple hours a week though. My grandma lives in london, off wonderland road. My dad grew up there, worked for the B&B truck body plant back in the 60s and 70s.

EMIEVEL
11-18-2009, 08:23 PM
I always write down the wiring diagram on the tongue of the trailer with a permanent marker. It can never hurt!

If you are making your own load ramps, make them slide out the back and mount them at the same width as your rear tires. Just in case you have to haul something in front of your buggy, you can extend your ramps and move the buggy back. Make the ramps and the mounts stout!

The best way to tie vehicles down is wheel straps that go over the tires...not from the side of the wheels. Use the E-Track style. You don't have to get dirty and you can load up faster. Your tie downs won't get 'barrowed' because they only fit E Ttrack.

On my 53' gooseneck trailer I used the truck 7 wire loom as argued about earlier. It is really good stuff and really expensive. Anyhoo, I wired the left side, the right side, and the rear separately, so if I had a short, I knew where to start looking first. Each of the 3 axles had it's own fuse so if I had a brake issue, I still had some brakes.

keepviper13
11-19-2009, 07:25 AM
On my 53' gooseneck trailer

You have a 53' trailer?

EMIEVEL
11-19-2009, 10:37 AM
You have a 53' trailer?

Had one!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/jobs/Chrispics2001.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/jobs/Chrispics004.jpg

It used to be 65' long but I got busted for being 79' long! :smokin: I had the trailer cut down to 53'.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/jobs1/00000037.jpg

mrtoddb
11-19-2009, 11:30 AM
I had one of these, and lost a key. If they get past this one, their gonna steal it no matter what you put on it. We ended up using a plasma, grinder and BFH to get ti off and screwed up the hitch itself in the process.
http://www.trailerlocksonline.com/ball-hitch-bulldog-lock.shtml

Or, you could use this:
http://www.heartlandlock.com/bmz_cache/2/22bd26661b205db10f0843610671cdbc.image.397x550.jpg

with this:http:
http://www.trailerandtruckparts.com/assets/images/gglock1.jpg


and it would get pretty tough to get into. Not much use seperately, but a bitch when used together.

Again, a good lock only keeps an honest man honest, a thief will get it if he wants it.

Anybody ever use electric jacks on a car hauler that worked off tow rig power? Thought about it, but not smart enough to actually do it.

1wook
11-21-2009, 10:16 AM
I mounted my licence plate to a strip of piano hinge, with a piece of aluminum plate as a backer to give it some weight and protection. Now when something hit's the licence plate it just swings up and out of the way instead of breaking off.

montecarlo31
11-21-2009, 12:11 PM
I mounted my licence plate to a strip of piano hinge, with a piece of aluminum plate as a backer to give it some weight and protection. Now when something hit's the licence plate it just swings up and out of the way instead of breaking off.

Dang, never thought of that. Thanks man:smokin: I see next weekends project.

#rawkon
11-21-2009, 01:57 PM
When i was using my trailer alot I found my battery for my winch to easy to steal ( got stolen twice) I ran 12 volt battery cable from the truck to the rear bumper. Used an Aircraft quick disconnect on the triailer. Worked great. Allowed me t use the winch by itself in the rear reciever or use it on the trailer. Never had a dead winch battery.

general--lee
11-21-2009, 03:42 PM
hi new guy from the UK

i have a electric winch with a 2 pin quick plug that powers from the tow car battery when in use , its also removeable from trailer and fits on left or right

the mudgaurds lift off for wider stuff or for opneing car doors but do have some metal to remake them

the thing i stuck with is how to mount the ramps securly and quickly when not in use its a fladeck trailer but theres not enough room under bed

any pics out there of some tie downs / mounts?

YellowSub1962
11-22-2009, 08:53 AM
Dang, never thought of that. Thanks man:smokin: I see next weekends project.

Slow reader?? :flipoff2:



I also hinged the license plate which works great for everything but dropping straight off a curb. The plate still bends before it swings :laughing:


just mount it rearward enough so that when you are pulling out of a driveway and are going to be dropping off a curb, that the plate will already be dragging on the ground (and hence swinging back) before the tire drops off the curb and comes straight down on the plate bending it before it swings. Mine "self clearances" every time it leaves my driveway :D


the thing i stuck with is how to mount the ramps securly and quickly when not in use its a fladeck trailer but theres not enough room under bed



post pics of the rear of the trailer (in a separate thread) and I'm sure we'll have idears to help ya.


:usa:

nissancrawler
11-22-2009, 09:54 PM
When i was using my trailer alot I found my battery for my winch to easy to steal ( got stolen twice) I ran 12 volt battery cable from the truck to the rear bumper. Used an Aircraft quick disconnect on the triailer. Worked great. Allowed me t use the winch by itself in the rear reciever or use it on the trailer. Never had a dead winch battery.

I made mine so the battery box can't be opened, unless the winch is removed, which is held in the receiver with a lock.

[COLOR="Yellow"]just mount it rearward enough so that when you are pulling out of a driveway and are going to be dropping off a curb, that the plate will already be dragging on the ground (and hence swinging back) before the tire drops off the curb and comes straight down on the plate bending it before it swings. Mine "self clearances" every time it leaves my driveway :D[/COLOR

What about a double hinge? Unless you're horribly unlucky, it should fold up that way.

YellowSub1962
11-23-2009, 08:34 AM
What about a double hinge? Unless you're horribly unlucky, it should fold up that way.

you've obviously never met me :laughing:

I just hung too far forward. It is actually a steel 3/8" gate pin and the plate will swing a full horizontal to horizontal 180 degrees. I mounted it off the bottom of the lights to keep all my wires together and protected in the drive over housing I made. the spacing between my rear tire and the lights allows the tire to be halfway down the height of a typical curb when the plate contacts the ground. A ramped decent is fine and the plate hits and swings. A straight drop off a curb lands on the plate in a vertical drop before the plate can swing. backing up the curb is fine because the plate hits first and swings then drags till the tires come up enough to hang again..

Hope this makes sense and someone else can make theirs right the first time from it :D

:usa:

gemer
11-23-2009, 03:37 PM
Had one!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/jobs/Chrispics2001.jpg



That's about the most number motorcycles that I have seen on a trailer!!!!

#rawkon
11-23-2009, 04:19 PM
I made mine so the battery box can't be opened, unless the winch is removed, which is held in the receiver with a lock.



What about a double hinge? Unless you're horribly unlucky, it should fold up that way.

Another plus to doing it my way is you dont need a separate battery for the trailer. If I didnt use mine often enough the batery would be dead, This way its powered from my daily driver.

dragr1
11-26-2009, 08:59 PM
Subscribing

nissancrawler
11-26-2009, 09:27 PM
Another plus to doing it my way is you dont need a separate battery for the trailer. If I didnt use mine often enough the batery would be dead, This way its powered from my daily driver.

mine is wired up to a disconnect setup. It sits all winter, and will still winch a vehicle on in the spring. It also allows me to use it with any vehicle, or even without a vehicle (which has been done several times). the other reasoning was that it runs the run-away brakes, loading lights, and flashers for the trailer.

psycoticredneck
11-27-2009, 01:53 AM
I bounced around several ideas on how to power up my gooseneck after I added the winch and 8 loading lights. Thought about installing an Anderson connector on the bumper of my truck and power everything off of it but I do have a couple friends that use the trailer occasionally so that means they'd have to do the same installation on theirs to get everything to work....just to much headache.

I mounted a battery box from an international semi tractor off the frame rail of my deckover gooseneck. The lid has two padlock hasps to prevent removal and even if they cut off the locks, The hold down bar that retains all 3 of the group 31 deep cycles can't be removed until all the interconnect cables are removed.

I've got a standard Anderson connector mounted to the side of the exterior of
the box so the batterys can be charged without removing the cover and also have a set of quick connect jumper cables that plug into it for jumping off dead vehicles loaded on the trailer. They also trickle charge off the 30 amp auxillery pin on the 7 way plug while going down the road.

Trailer now has a total of 10 par 36 loading lights mounted on the headache rack on neck and behind the cleated dovetail, power for the 9000lb winch to load vehicles plus the 2000 lb atv winch mounted to the front of the upper deck to get dead quads up over the neck and interior lights mounted inside the two under deck toolboxes to be able to see what i'm looking for at night.

Some say I went way overkill but by getting the battery box assy used at a truck junkyard, I saved big bucks on the build on this......and it is super convenient on weekend wheeling trips. The last thing you want is problems loading dead toys on the day you're going home after roughing it in the wilderness and are not looking forward to a multi-hour trip home

dannyz14
12-02-2009, 05:03 PM
I've finally got something to add to this thread.
Added a bedside toolbox from a long bed truck that hangs over the pipe on the front perfectly.
I built a spare tire carrier that sits on the front that holds two spares. They sit down perfectly even with the bottom of the frame. I welded the mounting bolts to the plates for mounting the tires and also welded an extra piece of tube to the top of the mount to run a chain through to secure both rims/tires in case someone decides that they need them more than me :D
I also wire wheeled and painted the entire underside of the trailer to eliminate the chance of any rust forming.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03509.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03510.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03512.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03513.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03515.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03516.jpg

kota4bye
12-03-2009, 04:47 PM
I've finally got something to add to this thread.
Added a bedside toolbox from a long bed truck that hangs over the pipe on the front perfectly.
I built a spare tire carrier that sits on the front that holds two spares. They sit down perfectly even with the bottom of the frame. I welded the mounting bolts to the plates for mounting the tires and also welded an extra piece of tube to the top of the mount to run a chain through to secure both rims/tires in case someone decides that they need them more than me :D
I also wire wheeled and painted the entire underside of the trailer to eliminate the chance of any rust forming.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03509.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03510.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03512.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03513.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03515.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/DannyZ14/DSC03516.jpg

Those are pretty slick ideas.:smokin:

dannyz14
12-03-2009, 09:14 PM
Those are pretty slick ideas.:smokin:

Thanks

jasonmt
12-05-2009, 09:10 PM
I have a few variations on the theme, just been going through our 11 year old 21k/27+5 goose that has seen more than a few hard miles and sprucing it up/relighting/fixing issues.

I hate having to chase down wiring gremlins so I went with a commercial outdoor weatherproof junction box so that it is easy to pop the cover and probe the connections. Everything runs through it and there is two switches on the bottom, 1 for a flasher circuit tied into the the running lights and another one that turns on the deck/back up lights. The deck/back up lights are powered off of the trailer battery and are triggered through two relays via either the switch or the back up circuit in the trailer plug and the relays also isolates the trailer circuit from the truck circuit if the switch on the trailer turns on the lights:
484855

Still need to finish off the battery mount, one 20A self resetting circuit breaker for charge coming from the vehicle and one 30A self resetting circuit breaker for the deck/back up lights and breakaway switch. The battery should run the deck/back up lights for ~3 hours and the flasher on the running lights for a couple of weeks as they are all LED's:
484856

Deck/back up lights are just two 100W floodlights from the local farm supply, does a pretty decent job:
484857

Landing legs under the pop up dove tail:
484858

Some might call me paranoid but I have had a few close calls with the slide out ramps sliding out on a few different trailers, ramp pins and pop up pins are drilled for pins with keeper cables:
484859

funkskunk
12-07-2009, 06:35 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/jobs/Chrispics2001.jpg
That's about the most number motorcycles that I have seen on a trailer!!!!

imagine the number of tie downs! :eek:

EMIEVEL
12-08-2009, 01:12 AM
imagine the number of tie downs! :eek:

Only 3 per bike, plus a few extras where they were needed.


1 tie down off each side of the handle bars that attach in line with the front axle, about 2 feet off to each side. The last tie down attaches as low on the bike as possible (Harley has a cross member or a foot peg works too), and goes straight back to an attachment right next to the rear tire.

I never load a bike any other way, even my motocrossers in the back of a truck. This is the best way to tie a bike down. If you use more than 3, chances are you are doing it wrong.

FOCUSHERE
12-08-2009, 12:04 PM
imagine the number of tie downs! :eek:

only 1 :flipoff2:

herman77
12-14-2009, 04:24 PM
Not sure is this has post yet!

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo334/hermanolguin/trailer/1214085921.jpg

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo334/hermanolguin/trailer/1214085857.jpg
THIS CAME FROM EXPLORER SPARE TIRE CARRIER
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo334/hermanolguin/trailer/1214085934.jpg

twoslo4five0
12-14-2009, 05:12 PM
love the tie downs.thats awsome.

87k5cucv
01-01-2010, 10:28 PM
We've been doing some stuff to mine. Should be back finished by sunday.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00056.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00057.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00058.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00059.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00060.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00061.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00062.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/Big91RustyBucket/Trailer%20Fab/DSC00063.jpg

knaffie
01-02-2010, 09:26 AM
I'll play.

Here's a tongue toolbox I just finished for my trailer. All welded joints, no bends anywhere. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/sheetsizes.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/IMG_1160.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/PA090001.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/PA220029.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/PA220027.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/PA220008.jpg

knaffie
01-02-2010, 09:31 AM
Started out as a camper frame. Still not done, but coming along a little more all the time.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2654E.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2687.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2688.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2691.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2690.jpg

cutouts for ramps

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2754.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2752.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2730.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2797.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSC00013.jpg

solar1
01-02-2010, 06:39 PM
Subscribed. Thanks for the great ideas.

KS Toy
01-02-2010, 06:48 PM
I'll play.

Here's a tongue toolbox I just finished for my trailer. All welded joints, no bends anywhere. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/sheetsizes.jpg



Come on. Really? 32nds? LOL Oh, nice job though.

InDaRed2
01-02-2010, 07:03 PM
Not too fancy but our trailer has E Track laid down around the outside of the trailer so we can place tie down rings where ever we want when towing lighter stuff. Heres some pics of how its usually loaded. :D

kota4bye
01-03-2010, 02:36 PM
Not too fancy but our trailer has E Track laid down around the outside of the trailer so we can place tie down rings where ever we want when towing lighter stuff. Heres some pics of how its usually loaded. :D


I like the dog box.

CJHeap
01-03-2010, 06:22 PM
How long would it take to cut through that with a abrasive cutoff wheel in a 12v drill, Id say 45 seconds tops, so it looks to me like your 45 dollar coupler bought you 15 seconds


I can and have taken those of with a single hit from an 8# sledge.

I run a pipe through the wheels and springs of an axle. Pipe has a flat plate on one end and a chain link on the other that one of those high security puck locks attaches to so that you can not get at it with a saw or cutters.

They would have to crawl under the trailer and saw the pipe with only 4in of clearance between the deck and pipe.

But they would probably not even notice it until the wheels lock up in the middle of the parking lot.:laughing:

InDaRed2
01-03-2010, 07:46 PM
I like the dog box.

Its actually two boxes on the front of the trailer facing away from each other, plus theres another one in the back of the truck.

1wook
01-03-2010, 08:12 PM
[QUOTE=knaffie;10808511]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2690.jpg
QUOTE]

More info on this please!

upsidedown2
01-03-2010, 09:11 PM
[QUOTE=knaffie;10808511]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2690.jpg
QUOTE]

More info on this please!


It is a 7-way box off like a class 8 truck and trailer. Grote or Phillips makes them

PAToyota
01-04-2010, 11:14 AM
More info on this please!

7-way Terminal Box - such as this (http://www.rvupgradestore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1314).

funkskunk
01-07-2010, 10:20 AM
some sick work by Bear Trailer Sports in CA
http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/CH09_097.jpg

http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/CH09_0910.jpg

http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/car14.jpg

http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/car09.jpg

http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/car23.jpg

http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/CH09_0927.jpg

http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/CH09_0929.jpg

http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/CH09_091.jpg

:eek: more can be found here --> http://www.beartrailersports.com/car-hauler-trailers.html

Mope
01-07-2010, 11:12 AM
^^^ Man that is nice!!

Kennedy
01-07-2010, 02:12 PM
some sick work by Bear Trailer Sports in CA
http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/car14.jpg


What is that?

three60fish
01-07-2010, 02:58 PM
What is that?


Looks like the very back plate on that trailer where they recessed those nice LED tail lights..

PhantomEB
01-07-2010, 03:44 PM
Wow a crawler AND two quads with out sacrificing added length, nice! As well so many little details.

CJHeap
01-07-2010, 06:24 PM
what is the weight rating on that trailer? It looks like it has at least 10k of load on it.

roger24
01-07-2010, 09:36 PM
http://www.beartrailersports.com/gallery/car/car14.jpg

What is that?


It's for those long skinny light bars, like this:

http://www.ledtrailerlights.com/stt/stt_50-4400.htm

http://www.ledtrailerlights.com/images/led/stt/50-4400/50-4400%20STT%20light%20bar-s.jpg

warhammer44
01-08-2010, 07:27 PM
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSC00013.jpg[/QUOTE]

Fawkin' sweet, ZR2!:smokin:

wvredxj
01-08-2010, 11:31 PM
went from this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/miscellaneous/trailor1.jpg

to this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/DSC02315.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/DSC02317.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/98%20jeep/jeeppic1.jpg

Lucy's Driver
01-16-2010, 06:58 PM
Backup lights
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/cacioppi/jeep%20trailer%20mods/DSC00040.jpg

Snow plow guides so I can see the empty trailer without dropping the tailgate on the pickup, also a weld on RV caster because my driveway gets steep at the end:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/cacioppi/jeep%20trailer%20mods/DSC00038.jpg

Relocated plate to middle of back of trailer. It kept getting bend up on snow piles in my backyard when pulling out the trailer when it hing under the brake light:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/cacioppi/jeep%20trailer%20mods/DSC00037.jpg

laughingcrow
01-16-2010, 07:47 PM
Anybody hear of the Quickbite ball coupler. It works with both 17/8 and 2 inch balls, and is extremely strong. Plus the design is pretty ingenious.

KS Toy
01-17-2010, 04:50 PM
Anybody hear of the Quickbite ball coupler. It works with both 17/8 and 2 inch balls, and is extremely strong. Plus the design is pretty ingenious.

Yes but I don't get it. Besides that they are $100 +/- Spend $15 and put a 2" coupler on. They should do away with 1 7/8 balls all together.

Mud Slayer 2.0
01-17-2010, 08:02 PM
went from this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/miscellaneous/trailor1.jpg

to this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/DSC02315.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/DSC02317.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bigwhitehd/98%20jeep/jeeppic1.jpg
just did that on ours behind the rear fenders.. now we can put 2 quads side by side on ours.. Only i made the frame work from an old bed frame :laughing: Hell it'll be more than enough to support the quads

laughingcrow
01-17-2010, 08:19 PM
When I first saw the info on the quickbite I knew it was gonna be expensive as hell. But if i ever had the money I would put them on all our trailers cuz of the safety thing. My brothers and uncle scare the s*** outta me with how little they check the coupler when they hook any of the trailers up. And I couldn't agree more aboute the 1&7/8 ball, it's completely usless. I've seen way too many trailer accidents happen because someone didn't pay attention to the ball size.

PAToyota
01-17-2010, 09:11 PM
Clean, simple, useful - I like that idea.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/cacioppi/jeep%20trailer%20mods/DSC00038.jpg

dirtylaundry
01-20-2010, 05:54 PM
Some really bad ass ideas on this thread

funkskunk
01-28-2010, 10:54 AM
http://www.imperialtrailer.com/images/custom/2_lg.JPG

http://www.imperialtrailer.com/images/custom/3_lg.jpg

http://www.imperialtrailer.com/images/custom/1_lg.JPG

funkskunk
03-13-2010, 05:14 AM
Decking turned into storage bins...

http://images.craigslist.org/3n33ma3oe5O55Tc5P1a32537cc98644b51d75.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/3n23k93ob5Of5Pa5R2a3283ca8cfdcfcb1469.jpg

funkskunk
03-13-2010, 05:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/shortys/Camper%20conversion/ramps.jpg

Found this idea here on the board ---> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=777351

GreyZuk
03-13-2010, 10:02 PM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z269/JoshCushin/3m53p73ld5Oa5Tc5Rca2dfad5e2bd1c1c1e.jpg

three60fish
03-13-2010, 10:16 PM
Decking turned into storage bins...

http://images.craigslist.org/3n33ma3oe5O55Tc5P1a32537cc98644b51d75.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/3n23k93ob5Of5Pa5R2a3283ca8cfdcfcb1469.jpg



Sweet, but only single use. Can't do anything with it when somethings on there.

R290
03-13-2010, 10:39 PM
Looking for cool tie down options and noticed somebody using the combination winch. strap and or chain.

http://www.uscargocontrol.com/images/large/TW-418_LRG.jpg

These look different. It seems the angle you need always is a bit different and these might be the trick,

http://shop.easternmarine.com/images/product/8323.jpg
found them HERE (http://shop.easternmarine.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=8323&categoryID=234)

funkskunk
03-15-2010, 10:48 PM
neat idea, but $24.50!!! Damn, could make 5 of them for that price!

R290
03-16-2010, 04:30 PM
neat idea, but $24.50!!! Damn, could make 5 of them for that price!

Funny, thats the first thing to pop into my head too:homer:

They look like they would work if you placed them in the right area so the pulling direction is on the bolt and not the sides. Same as D rings.

Close up pic. for those wanting to build there own.
http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/127301_lg.jpg

VT-WHEELIN
03-17-2010, 09:41 AM
they look just like the pulling pots that people put in their shop floors

great idea

R290
03-17-2010, 09:57 PM
I was talking about these with a guy at work, told him I would have to weld these to the trailer frame at 45° so it would be in line with the chain going my axles. Then we came up with the idea of just using some 1/4" wall 3x3 tubing cut at 45° cut a hole for the link and put a bolt on the back side. Tack the bolt to the back side so it stays put. Then weld to trailer frame and add back to it complete the triangle. I would make the chain longer 12-14" and cut the access tubing at an angle to match the direction I need the chain to go. Will add pic later, as open office doc can't be posted.

jam0o0
03-18-2010, 08:47 AM
worst welding posted on pirate on january 17th goes to


































Snow plow guides so I can see the empty trailer without dropping the tailgate on the pickup, also a weld on RV caster because my driveway gets steep at the end:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/cacioppi/jeep%20trailer%20mods/DSC00038.jpg

CLRracer
03-18-2010, 09:35 AM
Sweet, but only single use. Can't do anything with it when somethings on there.

If you only keep things in the bins for whats on the trailer, then you shouldnt need it while its on the trailer. This is really popular with race car trailers (which is what that trailer looks like) because as soon as you get to the track, off comes the car, and theres all your stuff right there near it so you dont have to run to the front of the trailer or truck to get something.

Duane

#rawkon
03-18-2010, 11:09 AM
worst welding posted on pirate on january 17th goes to

Agreed, it had to be said though.

gots_a_sol
03-19-2010, 04:02 PM
another quick tip, leave slack when you wire up your trailer. :shaking: working on one of our trailers and whoever messed up the wiring last didn't leave any slack to work with. ugh.

montecarlo31
03-21-2010, 06:36 AM
another quick tip, leave slack when you wire up your trailer. :shaking: working on one of our trailers and whoever messed up the wiring last didn't leave any slack to work with. ugh.

I always do that as well, I can't tell you how many times it's saved my butt.

funkskunk
04-08-2010, 08:42 PM
Got some new ones.....

nothing surprising here, but clean design
http://www.andersenmp.com/images/LockingToolBox.JPG


gooseneck toolbox, it's in between the uprights on the truck side
http://www.andersenmp.com/images/FrontToolBox.jpg

ScoutIITD
04-09-2010, 08:25 AM
Got some new ones.....

nothing surprising here, but clean design
http://www.andersenmp.com/images/LockingToolBox.JPG


Do you have any more pics and details on this jack and handle setup?

Both looks cool. :D

funkskunk
04-10-2010, 08:48 PM
It's just an extension for a drop jack.

LuckyCharm4x4
09-21-2010, 01:42 PM
http://bryan.luckyoffroad.com/LuckyCharm/Random/Bump.gif

ShaneOh
10-08-2010, 08:49 AM
I had one of those for my low boy with a bulldog hitch and after I accidentally dropped my 4 way lug wrench and broke the head off of it I realized it was a joke.


had one of these holding my receiver into the hitch of the truck and forgot about it until I need to switch to something else and realized I had lost the key. 1.5 min later with a cordless sawzall the problem was ELIMINATED. Never thought it would be that easy to cut through!

#rawkon
10-08-2010, 09:44 AM
worst welding posted on pirate on january 17th goes to

Had to be said...

black2door
11-28-2010, 10:29 PM
Anyone else got any cool trailer mods. I love this thread.

-Andrew

chrisevans2645
11-28-2010, 11:41 PM
don't know if this counts but i used 50w 12v household decoration lights as backup lights on my truck and matching trailer
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs939.snc4/73246_440862656523_660066523_5299887_3457965_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1135.snc4/149730_440862736523_660066523_5299890_3309889_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs902.snc4/71536_439297206523_660066523_5276267_645208_n.jpg

BenMara
11-29-2010, 10:10 AM
Were did you source those 50w 12v household decoration lights?

R290
11-29-2010, 12:14 PM
Were did you source those 50w 12v household decoration lights?

Think Low Voltage lighting, So Lowes, HD, Walmart, etc.

The can get a bit hot so don't leave it in reverse for an hour.

xmptsunami
11-29-2010, 01:34 PM
[QUOTE=chrisevans2645;12175519]don't know if this counts but i used 50w 12v household decoration lights as backup lights on my truck and matching trailer
QUOTE]

I'm wondering how long they'll take the bumps/vibration. I think they'll prob survive pretty good, at least the bulbs are beef (as far as the glass).

Might be a different story if they were on while driving (forward at speed) since they'd be subject to worse bumps/vibe than just backin up occasionally. I like it.


I've got some very similar lights that were built for underground mining equipment. They use very similar looking bulbs (12 or 24 volt). Mounted in a BULLETPROOF cast aluminum housing with good thick rubber isolating the bulb. They too get real hot, but nice and bright. Too bad they're about $300 each.

R290
11-29-2010, 03:34 PM
Don't forget the 22 gauge factory wiring won't work for crap. I use the factory wiring to pull a relay. On mine I used the 12 gauge low voltage wiring from HD to run the my back up lights via a relay. This way they are nice and bright. I run both a ground and positive back to the battery terminal block, thats has like a #4 wire going to the battery. The ground is attached to the battery. I added some tractor flood lights under the bumper, vs the inside the stock back up lights.
I like chrisevans2645 idea as it get the light up a bit higher to shine down.

I also mounted a pair on the trailer on the first cross member, but have the switch on trailer. After tripping over some crap in the woods one night I added them. Make all the difference when backing up at night as it floods the whole area and the person helping to back up in tight spots can see all the hazards:grinpimp:

No pic's handy. Will get some

Brian1
11-29-2010, 06:13 PM
Fastway coiled breakaway cable. No more tangled cable or dragging it on the ground.

twoslo4five0
11-29-2010, 07:41 PM
id be concerened that the cord would break before the pin came out, pin gets a little age mabye some dirt in there next thing you know cord breaks, i personally wouldnt trust it.thats just me

Dustball
11-29-2010, 09:32 PM
Replaced the weak tongue mounted jack that came with the trailer with a 7k lb Bulldog jack welded to the front rail. It's rock solid and doesn't get in the way of the tow vehicle's tailgate at all.

http://ylobronc.users.superford.org/trailer/trailerjack.jpg

chrisevans2645
11-30-2010, 12:34 AM
i'm a little worried about the heat too but i figure i'll see how it does. they also use those bulbs in the cheap driving lights that you can get at walmart. i got the idea from that because i tried a set of those lights and they worked well, until the bezel would fall off and the light would fall out of the housing:shaking:

my truck has been almost completely rewired, i have a relay for the backup lights operated by either the trans switch or by a switch on the dash

xmptsunami
11-30-2010, 02:35 AM
I remembered this morning the name of the mining lights I referred to.

Dichro Cool.

http://www.eyelighting.com/mr16_24v.html

Stupid name, since they get super hot.

Anyways, this is the light they used on underground mining equipment. They seemed to hold up there pretty good. From what I can find on the web, they may actually be household type lighting.

I'll take some pics of the housings I have....

thump93yj
11-30-2010, 08:03 PM
Replaced the rotting wood deck on my trailer with steel c-perlin (2x4). I may coat it or paint it with some sand in the mix to give it more grip. I believe it's less weight now than the lumber floor was.

While I had it stripped down, I rewired the whole thing eliminating all the quick splices and but-connectors the mfg used building it... these things always get coroded and short out... oh say like on your 1k mile trip to Moab, etc. All soldered and heat-shrink connected now.

added two spare tire hoists from some junkyard pickups. I welded a rod with the same nut size as the axles... you could leave it like the under bed setups and have a hole to stick a rod through i reckon. i wanted mine simple and easy. The spares aren't noticeable unless you're really looking when tucked up under the deck.

HEAVY METAL
11-30-2010, 08:54 PM
i made fold down fenders for my trailer. uses really big wing nuts..

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa104/HEAVY_METALYO/004-8.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa104/HEAVY_METALYO/005-8.jpg

Machinos
11-30-2010, 09:19 PM
How long have you had those fenders? My aluminum trailer came with aluminum fenders, welded on, and they fell off after not too long. I made removable steel ones, a lot like yours but held on with 4 linch pins per fender. The fenders crack and the brackets they sit on fatigue so bad I can't believe it. They're steel but they're still pretty light, and I don't know what else to do other than over-engineer the hell out of everything.

montecarlo31
12-01-2010, 06:15 AM
Replaced the weak tongue mounted jack that came with the trailer with a 7k lb Bulldog jack welded to the front rail. It's rock solid and doesn't get in the way of the tow vehicle's tailgate at all.

http://ylobronc.users.superford.org/trailer/trailerjack.jpg

I need to do this but I really wanted a tongue box too. Wonder if you could do both.

knaffie
12-01-2010, 06:42 AM
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/knaffie/car%20hauler%20trailer/DSCN2690.jpg

More info on this please!

Just a standard junction box. Very handy and worth the money.

http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Hidden-Hitch/38656.html

ScoutIITD
12-01-2010, 07:18 AM
Replaced the weak tongue mounted jack that came with the trailer with a 7k lb Bulldog jack welded to the front rail. It's rock solid and doesn't get in the way of the tow vehicle's tailgate at all.

http://ylobronc.users.superford.org/trailer/trailerjack.jpg

I want to use that same jack but turn it 90° and cut the handle off and extend it to the side like a semi trailer landing gear.

The only thing is the adjustable foot would be a pain to reach. Maybe using two jacks at the sides would be better???

Slowzuki
12-01-2010, 07:32 AM
Turn the extendable foot 90 deg and drill a new pin hole in the jack.

Dustball
12-01-2010, 07:46 PM
I need to do this but I really wanted a tongue box too. Wonder if you could do both.
If you turned it 180 degrees, you could have the crank handle facing the rear over the deck. If you did that, then you could put a tongue box in front of it.

I have a truck bed tool box from a small pickup sitting on the front of the deck. To secure it, I drilled two holes in the wood decking and used two stabilizer link pins bolted to the planks.

http://www.unionfarmequip.com/store/linkage/images/stabilizers/big/SBP75WNL.jpg

Some washers and two lynch pins on the inside hold the box tight to the deck and it's easily removable if I need the whole deck.

mrstang01
12-02-2010, 09:33 AM
Cool idea, where did you get those lynch pins?

Jason Lister
12-02-2010, 09:41 AM
sub'd

76scoutman
12-02-2010, 10:53 AM
Cool idea, where did you get those lynch pins?

Most tractor, farm, co-op and supply places have them.

CSP
12-02-2010, 01:06 PM
Those pins are the attaching pins for three point implements on farm equipment. You can get a different variety of sizes, depending on how big the tractor/attachment is.

Category "0" is the smallest and uses a 5/8" diameter pin.

Used on something like this:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31W4J1%2BVVoL._SS500_.jpg

SVARAS
12-04-2010, 03:32 PM
It`s always good to be prepared...:D

HEAVY METAL
01-03-2011, 09:33 PM
How long have you had those fenders? My aluminum trailer came with aluminum fenders, welded on, and they fell off after not too long. I made removable steel ones, a lot like yours but held on with 4 linch pins per fender. The fenders crack and the brackets they sit on fatigue so bad I can't believe it. They're steel but they're still pretty light, and I don't know what else to do other than over-engineer the hell out of everything.

have had em done for bout 8 months now.. no issues.i used trailer shackles that i had layin around.

PhantomEB
01-04-2011, 07:26 PM
Seriously cant wait til we start building my toyhauler with pop up tent trailer... sure will be coming back to this thread to read it from beginning to end and making notes to kick ass!

twoslo4five0
01-11-2011, 05:54 PM
a little something i put together tonight for my trailer build. The lower strip with the jumpers are for my front amber LED's and the 7 way is for me to pull my truck camper into. There is also a small led light in the top so it shines down for trouble shoting at night, it runs off my parking light with are almost always on (auto lights). in the rear of the trailer i used a piece of tuperware (thats right) with the stip underneath the trailer. siliconed up all the holes and its sealed up tight. i will run a bead of silicone around this one before i mount it. i will take some finished pics when im done.

76scoutman
01-12-2011, 11:04 AM
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=570129&stc=1&d=1294797229

76scoutman
01-12-2011, 11:13 AM
I just finished putting a new tounge jack, bracing, and X metal on ours. The jack is far enough back that the tailgate doesn't hit and the X metal give a nice grippy platform to step on.

R290
01-12-2011, 04:23 PM
a little something i put together tonight for my trailer build. The lower strip with the jumpers are for my front amber LED's and the 7 way is for me to pull my truck camper into. There is also a small led light in the top so it shines down for trouble shoting at night, it runs off my parking light with are almost always on (auto lights). in the rear of the trailer i used a piece of tuperware (thats right) with the stip underneath the trailer. siliconed up all the holes and its sealed up tight. i will run a bead of silicone around this one before i mount it. i will take some finished pics when im done.

Still not sure what this is used for? I think you have a truck camper mounted on the flat bed trailer. This allows you to have running lights as you plug the trailer plug or camper plug into this box and some how it connects to your truck which has auto light. Ok just make a video as I have no clue what the $%^& your doing.:D

twoslo4five0
01-12-2011, 06:37 PM
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

like that? saw it on old navy and couldnt pass it up.

Still not sure what this is used for? I think you have a truck camper mounted on the flat bed trailer. This allows you to have running lights as you plug the trailer plug or camper plug into this box and some how it connects to your truck which has auto light. Ok just make a video as I have no clue what the $%^& your doing.:D

ok the 7 way plug is for the camper so i can take it on and off easily.

the second junction is for the amber lights on the front of my trailer. here is the total break down of my trailer.

30 foot trailer.
all LED's

6 amber and 3 reds on each side of the deck.

2 led tail lights and 3 red led center lights (same lights as the side markers)

2 ambers on the top of the camper

1 amber and one red on each side of the camper

5 roof lights on the back of the camper

and the tailights with turns and reverse lights on the back of the camper.

that gives me,

35 running lights
4 brake lights
2 left turns
2 right turns.
2 reverse

that is it for now. eventually im gonna add 4 more reverse lights :flipoff2:

edit- i forgot 1 white LED in the lunch box which will run off the parking lights so 36

R290
01-12-2011, 09:00 PM
Ah... I've got I have 15 on my trailer, just the required DOT lighting. Plus the red / wht reflective tape.
My RV trailer has 2 55watt reverse lights mounted up at the first cross member, and they work great at night, lights up the whole area. 14 ga wiring so they are bright. Makes backing up a night a 1000 times easier. I could use nice flood light with a switch near the hitch, not too bright, just nice flood to make hitching and un hitching faster at night, .

twoslo4five0
01-13-2011, 04:43 AM
the LED's help alot with the battery draw. they take far less power to run and are far brighter (as we all know). The cost is the downside of leds but i bought all my markers in bulk off ebay and it will save you alot of money. I think when i bought mine i ended up paying like 4 bucks a piece cause i ordered about 30 lights.eventually i will cange all my camper lights to LED's

KyleQ
01-13-2011, 06:54 AM
If you turned it 180 degrees, you could have the crank handle facing the rear over the deck. If you did that, then you could put a tongue box in front of it.

I have a truck bed tool box from a small pickup sitting on the front of the deck. To secure it, I drilled two holes in the wood decking and used two stabilizer link pins bolted to the planks.

Some washers and two lynch pins on the inside hold the box tight to the deck and it's easily removable if I need the whole deck.

Nice one Dustin! I've been meaning to mount my trailer box and that is the perfect solution! Did you get those lynch pins from Fleet Farm?

Dustball
01-13-2011, 07:10 PM
Nice one Dustin! I've been meaning to mount my trailer box and that is the perfect solution! Did you get those lynch pins from Fleet Farm?
Sure did- my favorite store.

keller
03-21-2011, 07:37 PM
Whoop DE fucking do fagot :mad3:

Delete that stupid fucking post and go show off your fag mobile some wear else!

This is a thread for showing ideas and tricks for your trailers NOT for showing off your damn truck.

Tech Tim
03-21-2011, 07:49 PM
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/silverram323/truck%20pulling%20pics/truckpull003.jpg


What kind of weight you pulling?

HP & Torque specs?

jdm4x43732
03-21-2011, 07:50 PM
:laughing:Whoop DE fucking do fagot :mad3:

Delete that stupid fucking post and go show off your fag mobile some wear else!

:laughing::laughing::eek: don't hold any punches. :flipoff2:

PAToyota
03-22-2011, 07:57 AM
Whoop DE fucking do fagot :mad3:

X2! Wow! I bought a trailer! Look at me! :shaking:

SVENG52
03-22-2011, 08:15 PM
This explains it:
Join Date: Mar 2011
Member # 186217
Posts: 1

silverram323
03-22-2011, 08:20 PM
I'm dumb, I keep posting in the wrong thread.

yozsi
03-22-2011, 08:23 PM
The sled weighs 40,000, here is a pic of my last dyno run right after i just bolt on a set of twin turbos with no tuning time.http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/silverram323/img028.jpg
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Shit, only 600 something hp with all them mods. bleh.

silverram323
03-22-2011, 08:25 PM
This explains it:
Join Date: Mar 2011
Member # 186217
Posts: 1


EXPLAINS WHAT?

You have to start somewhere right? Let me guess you started at 100 post.

I found this site from google about adding a winch to a trailer, Starting to regret it now. :shaking:

SVENG52
03-22-2011, 08:37 PM
EXPLAINS WHAT?

You have to start somewhere right? Let me guess you started at 100 post.

I found this site from google about adding a winch to a trailer, Starting to regret it now. :shaking:It explains why u would fill a thread on trailer mods with your dyno sheet from your redneck truck pull. If I wanted to see that shit I would search threads on truck pulls thats all. If u regret it do us all a favor and never post here again

SVENG52
03-22-2011, 08:48 PM
What a retard.
Smart things sveng52 has to say. (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406378&highlight=)Thats a test page genius. Used for checking your profile or avatar after u change it so u dont infringe on a meaningful post the way u did to this one.

crashnzuk
03-22-2011, 09:58 PM
It explains why u would fill a thread on trailer mods with your dyno sheet from your redneck truck pull. If I wanted to see that shit I would search threads on truck pulls thats all. If u regret it do us all a favor and never post here again

Actually, you can partially blame it on TechTim as he's the one who asked for HP/TQ specs :flipoff2:
Travis..

Mustard Dog
03-22-2011, 10:00 PM
You dont need a fawking test page to see changes in your signature or avitars, just hit f5 or refresh the page and it will show up genius!!!!!!!

Quit acting like a fucking retard:shaking:

silverram323
03-23-2011, 05:15 AM
I thought this was a truck site, i didnt know it had to be a crawler or mudder to fit in. Peace out.

CLRracer
03-23-2011, 07:13 AM
I thought this was a truck site, i didnt know it had to be a crawler or mudder to fit in. Peace out.

You don't, you just have to have the ability to read and comprehend what you read. It also helps to have some common sense and know where to post.

Duane

crashnzuk
03-23-2011, 02:32 PM
I thought this was a truck site, i didnt know it had to be a crawler or mudder to fit in. Peace out.

Truth be told, mudders are kinda redheaded step children here too :D What everyone is getting at is that you didn't add any tech to a thread dedicated to cool trailer tech. All you did was post a pic of your new trailer and pics and info on your pulling truck. If you have cool trailer tech to add, add it. There isn't a truck pulling section here, so you'll have to find another site for that which I'm sure won't be hard. Enjoy your new trailer.
Travis..

landcru
03-29-2011, 08:22 PM
Pintle hitch with Lunette Eye.
I have seen 1" shank trailer balls snapped....
No breaking these:

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2695.JPG

landcru
03-29-2011, 08:25 PM
Electric over Hydraulic brakes - disk brakes on both
axles. These can lock up so hard that even my F450 cannot
drag the trailer!!
NO MORE SHORTED MAGNETS!

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2696.JPG

Tool box custom made for A-section of frame, top wind
10,000 lb drop leg jack. You can crank from either side of the
trailer:
http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2697.JPG

landcru
03-29-2011, 08:27 PM
Winch built into tool box:

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2698.JPG

Fairlead mounted to outside of box, removable tie down loop
for using snatch blocks if required:

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2699.JPG

landcru
03-29-2011, 08:29 PM
Removable tie down loops with nuts welded to the
inside of the rub rail:

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2700.JPG

Ramps with two hitch pins on the sides. Hitch pins wired to
the chassis so they dont get lost! :

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2701.JPG

landcru
03-29-2011, 08:32 PM
http://militaryjeep.com/loads/100_0567.jpg
http://militaryjeep.com/loads/100_1351.jpg

7.62FMJ
03-30-2011, 12:22 AM
http://militaryjeep.com/loads/100_0567.jpg

http://militaryjeep.com/loads/100_1351.jpg

Very nice! Thats about the exact trailer that I have been looking for. Who makes it?

landcru
03-30-2011, 02:03 PM
Very nice! Thats about the exact trailer that I have been looking for. Who makes it?

It started out as a Carson Trailer HD car hauler.
I had them upgrade it to 7000 lb axles

We remade the worthless fenders that came with it, built the box
and did most of the other mods in house.

wipeout
03-31-2011, 06:12 PM
Hey landcru, where did you get those thread in tie down rings.

zukitough
03-31-2011, 07:16 PM
Pintle hitch with Lunette Eye.
I have seen 1" shank trailer balls snapped....
No breaking these:

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2695.JPG

You won't have to worry about the pintle but you should be worried about those safety chains. The hooks are in the wrong way, the chains are twisted and will bind when you turn and the chains don't look like they are crossed. nice trailer.

Jason Lister
04-01-2011, 08:09 AM
You won't have to worry about the pintle but you should be worried about those safety chains. The hooks are in the wrong way, the chains are twisted and will bind when you turn and the chains don't look like they are crossed. nice trailer.

I disagree with everything you said except for the orientation of the hooks. They are, in fact, crossed and they shouldnt have any problems with turning. I bet he gets more binding from the pintle style hitch than those chains. Nice try though...:shaking:

I'm more upset with the fact that he isn't running any CA tags or CVRA weight rating stickers on his door, since he's in california, but this isnt at all what this thread is about....

Honkylips
04-01-2011, 08:51 AM
Please explain why the hook orientation is incorrect. Just curious.

ERV JR
04-01-2011, 08:53 AM
I disagree with everything you said except for the orientation of the hooks. They are, in fact, crossed and they shouldnt have any problems with turning. I bet he gets more binding from the pintle style hitch than those chains. Nice try though...:shaking:

I'm more upset with the fact that he isn't running any CA tags or CVRA weight rating stickers on his door, since he's in california, but this isnt at all what this thread is about....

Its a personal truck so you dont have to have CA tags or Cvra. Sorry officer in just hauling my tank around

MT4Runner
04-01-2011, 09:32 AM
Landcru, love the details--the box, the jack, the dual hitch pins on the ramps.

Hey landcru, where did you get those thread in tie down rings.

x2!

RustoleumWhite
04-01-2011, 04:37 PM
Please explain why the hook orientation is incorrect. Just curious.
Curious about this too. I've always heard it, and do put my hooks the other way (especially since mine are non-latching), but I'd like to hear a GOOD explanation of why putting them on like landcru posted will kill a bus load of nun and school children??

crashnzuk
04-01-2011, 05:58 PM
I'm more upset with the fact that he isn't running any CA tags or CVRA weight rating stickers on his door, since he's in california, but this isnt at all what this thread is about....

Why do you care if he has CA #s or not, you the cops?


Curious about this too. I've always heard it, and do put my hooks the other way (especially since mine are non-latching), but I'd like to hear a GOOD explanation of why putting them on like landcru posted will kill a bus load of nun and school children??

If the hooks didn't have latches, they could just "hop" off (think rough road). If they are put in from the bottom, they have to turn upside down to fall out, less chance of that happening.
Travis..

Grumpy356
04-01-2011, 07:56 PM
the chains are twisted and will bind when you turn and the chains don't look like they are crossed. nice trailer.

I always twist my chains to shorten them up and keep them from dragging the road. How will they bind?

Why cross the chains? What does this get you?

(I am no noob to towing a trailer, but this isn't how I learned to do it).

ElkyRacer
04-01-2011, 08:18 PM
Removable tie down loops with nuts welded to the
inside of the rub rail:

http://owens-export.com/stuff/oldstuff/DSCN2700.JPG

From the looks of them, and being hes in the military equip biz, Im going to say newer style HMMWV air lift bumper loops? Sure look like them, altho the shanks on them are a lot shorter than the ones I messed with. I really like the additions to that trailer.

racer152
04-01-2011, 09:36 PM
I always twist my chains to shorten them up and keep them from dragging the road. How will they bind?

Why cross the chains? What does this get you?

(I am no noob to towing a trailer, but this isn't how I learned to do it).

In theory if the trailer pops off the ball its to cradle it to keep it from digging into the ground...and it law in alot of states