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Chris
10-06-2009, 09:13 PM
But can someone please give me a tutorial for the super stupid for where to weld in the rails on a Romy G flat? I know the ejector is the finned on that goes on the left and the other is a guide, but it looks like my guide rail should have some holes in it and it doesn't and I'm tired of searching to find it. I want to shoot this dumb thing and this is about the last step. Thanks.

Sturgell
10-06-2009, 09:18 PM
But can someone please give me a tutorial for the super stupid for where to weld in the rails on a Romy G flat? I know the ejector is the finned on that goes on the left and the other is a guide, but it looks like my guide rail should have some holes in it and it doesn't and I'm tired of searching to find it. I want to shoot this dumb thing and this is about the last step. Thanks.

I welded mine in after the receiver was put on the front trunnion. The front of the rails touches my front trunnions and is spaced from the top rail with a 1/4 inch drill bit then plug welded from the outside.

Scott@Rockstomper
10-06-2009, 09:19 PM
But can someone please give me a tutorial for the super stupid for where to weld in the rails on a Romy G flat? I know the ejector is the finned on that goes on the left and the other is a guide, but it looks like my guide rail should have some holes in it and it doesn't and I'm tired of searching to find it. I want to shoot this dumb thing and this is about the last step. Thanks.

Easiest location: put a 1/4" rod or drill bit between the low rail and the upper rail. Push the low rail forward till it just touches the trunnion. Weld it there.

Often, depending on which brand of rails and flat you started with, there may be an extra "tab" on the rail to catch the center support, or not.

Are you spot welding with a tongs-type machine, or plug welding with a MIG or TIG?

Chris
10-06-2009, 09:20 PM
That helps quite a bit. The whole thing is welded up, just have to install the rails and trim the top for the carrier. Is the guide rail supposed to have holes for some pins? I am plug welding with a MIG and now I see the grooves in the front trunnion that they need to be lining up with. Very good.

Edit: I am assuming I can drill the holes for the FCG through the right guide rail after it is welded in?

Sturgell
10-06-2009, 09:22 PM
That helps quite a bit. The whole thing is welded up, just have to install the rails and trim the top for the carrier. Is the guide rail supposed to have holes for some pins?

No pins, I just welded my rails in. Drilled a few holes in the receiver where the rail sits and then welded them with a mig welder.

Scott@Rockstomper
10-06-2009, 09:23 PM
That helps quite a bit. The whole thing is welded up, just have to install the rails and trim the top for the carrier. Is the guide rail supposed to have holes for some pins?

All the right side rails I've seen have had an extra extension to catch the hammer pin; it's really not necessary for the rail to do that, but it's normally done. If your rail doesn't, just take extra care to make sure that the hammer pin can't back out far enough to slip its tip out of its hole on the right side.

Scott@Rockstomper
10-06-2009, 09:25 PM
If your rail covers the hammer pin hole, yes, you can just drill through it after it's welded in. Same deal for if it covers your center support hole (assuming that one's already drilled into your flat).

Incidentally, I like to hold the rails to outside of the receiver in their approximate location, trace around them with a magic marker, then drill about four holes per side about in the middle of that tracing, and use those to spot weld the rails into place. Makes it much quicker than trying to measure out where everything should end up.

Chris
10-06-2009, 09:33 PM
If your rail covers the hammer pin hole, yes, you can just drill through it after it's welded in. Same deal for if it covers your center support hole (assuming that one's already drilled into your flat).

Incidentally, I like to hold the rails to outside of the receiver in their approximate location, trace around them with a magic marker, then drill about four holes per side about in the middle of that tracing, and use those to spot weld the rails into place. Makes it much quicker than trying to measure out where everything should end up.
I don't seem to have a center support pin. Should there have been in my parts kit and if not, what can I use in it's place?

Scott@Rockstomper
10-06-2009, 09:57 PM
I don't seem to have a center support pin. Should there have been in my parts kit and if not, what can I use in it's place?

I've never gotten one in a parts kit, but it's supposed to be in an AK. It's the extra hole above and forward of the hammer pivot pin, about dead-center on the receiver. I've usually made them out of 1/4" or so rod, cut to length and welded in. Length will depend on your rail layout--if it runs from rail to rail, you'll have to figure out what length it should be. If it runs from receiver wall to receiver wall, it'll be a different length. Also make sure not to weld it in so high that the bolt hits it, or you'll have to grind off the top side of it.

nooblet
10-06-2009, 10:53 PM
I don't seem to have a center support pin. Should there have been in my parts kit and if not, what can I use in it's place?

I ordered mine, it came with a rivet if your so inclined... I ordered it because I wasn't very confident in my ability to fab a center support the correct length :laughing:

So I ordered one I knew would be the correct link and welded it in.

Chris