I'm in the middle of putting coilovers on the front of my TJ and have a few questions. I currently have an Antirock swaybar on the front...I've noticed Genrights Jeeps all just use an Antirock type swaybar on the rear, but nothing on the front. How is this for stability? Beneficial for me to take it off the front and move it to the rear?

I'm doing the same thing.
I'd say that if there's room for the antirock, use it.
I've moved the front axle forward 7" & it's going to be a challenge to fit the antirock.
Driving on the street without a front swaybar is a thrill I could do without.
Right now, my main concern is placing the Fox bumpstops.

Might want to check because I am quite certain the front Antri-rock for a TJ is quite a bit narrower than what you would require on the rear...

Aside from that, swap to coilovers and see which axle needs it....

I'm doing the same thing.
I'd say that if there's room for the antirock, use it.
I've moved the front axle forward 7" & it's going to be a challenge to fit the antirock.
Driving on the street without a front swaybar is a thrill I could do without.
Right now, my main concern is placing the Fox bumpstops.

That's the problem I anticipate having, is lack of space. I have some FOA coilovers on order, and will be using their bumpstops as well. Trying to get those as well as keep the antirock could be challenging, though Im only stretching the front out 3".

10 lbs of shit in a 5lb bag...You can do it :D

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10 lbs of shit in a 5lb bag...You can do it :D


Nice!
Got any close up pics from the side?:smokin:

I may have the same problem. Might be easier to put the sway bar in the rear. Is there a disadvantage to it??

I may have the same problem. Might be easier to put the sway bar in the rear. Is there a disadvantage to it??


Ideally, I would prefer antirocks front & rear.

For what its worth......I've discovered that with a TJ with a stretched wheelbase (mine is 112") that Antirock arms for a JK worked great. they jog away from the frame and are shorter in length.

From my experience with an air shocked / full bodied TJ. AntiRock's front at a minimum and front & rear is ideal. At lease for MY setup

If you have the room, Front and Rear Antirocks works great. The front Antirock will not work on the back, front is 36" and rear is 44.5"

nice!
Got any close up pics from the side?:smokin:

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If you have the room, Front and Rear Antirocks works great. The front Antirock will not work on the back, front is 36" and rear is 44.5"

Thanks for the input. I am going to try to make it all work on the front, and then pick up one for the rear if it all works out. I love the way the Jeep handles with the Antirock now, just not sure how the characteristics will change once I have coilovers up front.

I am in the middle of the same project. Waiting on the last parts.

I have an antirock up front and the rear antirock waiting to go on. I may need to place it in front of the axle due to coilover location. Time will tell. Not ideal, from what I understand, but space is space.

Also, we are both in the same area. I would not mind seeing your build.

I dont have coilovers, but I had to put my Antirock in the front. The arms wouldn't clear the outboarded shocks, if I had mounted them where the directions indicated.
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/bddisi/IMGA0995.jpg?t=1254965316

I am in the middle of the same project. Waiting on the last parts.

I have an antirock up front and the rear antirock waiting to go on. I may need to place it in front of the axle due to coilover location. Time will tell. Not ideal, from what I understand, but space is space.

Also, we are both in the same area. I would not mind seeing your build.

Ill have to place the antirock in front of the rear axle as well when I get it. I have a fuel cell thats in the way of mounting it aft of the axle. Like you say, not ideal...but it will work.

I'm not too far along on my project. Coilovers ordered, and I've got the coil/shock brackets cut off the frame and smoothed out. I pulled the front axle last night to start removing the axle coil buckets and shock mounts, and to get it prepped for mounting the coilovers.

Do you have any photos of your project so far?

10 lbs of shit in a 5lb bag...You can do it :D

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um...isn't that lower link arm supposed to be attached to the frame? Seems like that's more imortant than the antirock... :shaking:

Nah, new kind of suspension just out this year...Super flexy!

I'll grab some more pics guys, the secret is bending the Anti-rock arms,

I need to get on board with that junk. I can quit stessin' about where to mount the lowers! :D

I have ran antirocks front and rear on a few jeeps. The rear made the most differance. I had mounted one before the rear axle and it didn't work as well as when it is mounted behind the rear axle.

If you have the room, Front and Rear Antirocks works great. The front Antirock will not work on the back, front is 36" and rear is 44.5"

I run them at both ends, and my rig is more stable (predictable when twisted up, off-camber, etc) than many of the guys I wheel with.

If you have the coin and fab skills, run them at both ends.

I went with the Clayton axle bracket kit. Its all done up front. Out back the axle is all clean and waiting on me to get it going.

I ordered CO's on the 17th and am still waiting for them. Ship this week, so I am told. Guess that means tomorrow.

Frame LCAs mounts on and ready. Rear all cleaned up and ready to figure out the CO placement. I also have a genright tank for out back.

Up front I still have not removed the stock shock/spring brackets. Wanting to wait till I get the COs here and know how I am going to mount them. Thinking I may want to dog leg the front CAs for some more up travel. Darn frame keeps getting in the way.

As for pics, I have been slow at it. My little build started in July as an easy project, and has turned into this. Your welcome to come by and see it if you want. I was only planning on the bracket kit, then it turned into this. LOL

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/inline6_bucket/Jeep%20LA%20Build/SANY0001-2.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/inline6_bucket/Jeep%20LA%20Build/SANY0009.jpg Pinion angle not set

I run them at both ends, and my rig is more stable (predictable when twisted up, off-camber, etc) than many of the guys I wheel with.

If you have the coin and fab skills, run them at both ends.




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Find a way to do both ends. You will be glad you did.

I'm in the final stage of adding coilovers to the front axle.
The front antirock is too long. I'm thinking about cutting it down a notch or so. Would this degrade it's performance to the point it's screwed up?
The front axle is a d60 & real heavy.

I'm in the final stage of adding coilovers to the front axle.
The front antirock is too long. I'm thinking about cutting it down a notch or so. Would this degrade it's performance to the point it's screwed up?
The front axle is a d60 & real heavy.

I usually have mine set in the middle hole. So I was thinking of cutting off the last two to give more clearance. I wouldn't think it'd screw it up.

What coilovers are you using up front? 14 or 16"?

I went with the Clayton axle bracket kit. Its all done up front. Out back the axle is all clean and waiting on me to get it going.

I ordered CO's on the 17th and am still waiting for them. Ship this week, so I am told. Guess that means tomorrow.

Frame LCAs mounts on and ready. Rear all cleaned up and ready to figure out the CO placement. I also have a genright tank for out back.

Up front I still have not removed the stock shock/spring brackets. Wanting to wait till I get the COs here and know how I am going to mount them. Thinking I may want to dog leg the front CAs for some more up travel. Darn frame keeps getting in the way.

As for pics, I have been slow at it. My little build started in July as an easy project, and has turned into this. Your welcome to come by and see it if you want. I was only planning on the bracket kit, then it turned into this. LOL


Looks good so far! Who's coilovers did you go with? size?

what coilovers are you using up front? 14 or 16"?

14".

Shit.

I ordered 16's from FOA, now Im second guessing my measurements. The 14's just seemed like they were going to be too short. I want the top mount to be just below the hood.

I'm in the final stage of adding coilovers to the front axle.
The front antirock is too long. I'm thinking about cutting it down a notch or so. Would this degrade it's performance to the point it's screwed up?
The front axle is a d60 & real heavy.



Shortening the arms will make it stiffer because the lever that's applying force to the torsion bar is shorter. If it ends up too stiff you can turn down the bar a little to compensate.

I think you will be ok though. Most everyone I know that runs anti-rocks runs them on the stiffer side of the mounting options.

I'm in the final stage of adding coilovers to the front axle.
The front antirock is too long. I'm thinking about cutting it down a notch or so. Would this degrade it's performance to the point it's screwed up?
The front axle is a d60 & real heavy.

What length are the arms? I thought there was different lenths you could order 14" being the smallest. I have the same problem. I am going to have to cut off at least 2 holes maybe 3.

What length are the arms? I thought there was different lenths you could order 14" being the smallest. I have the same problem. I am going to have to cut off at least 2 holes maybe 3.

Approx 16 1/4" from the center of the torsion bar to the center of the last hole. These is your garden variety Currie AntiRock for the front suspension on a TJ.

Looks good so far! Who's coilovers did you go with? size?

FOA as well. 14" all around. Hoping they get here soon, ordered on the 17th of Sep. I need to get my little project done. SOON.

I figured I would try FOA. I got COs and Air Bumps for the price of others COs only. You could get what you pay for, but thinking cause they are direct only it was worth the chance. Time will tell.

I just got a set of FOA's myself I ordered one at a time and they sent me 2 different bodies? anyways what spring rates are you guys running. I have 4.2L under the hood. also trying to figure out the antirock stuff myself before I drop a pretty penny on it. front is a D44 with PSC full hydro FOA's and trying to 4 link it. cause I don't have the room for a panhard! pics ideas would be awesome.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/inline6_bucket/Jeep%20LA%20Build/SANY0009.jpg Pinion angle not set

How are you liking the poly p brackets?

Mine works great with the Anti-Rock in the front. I have no issue with side or off camber hills or the Jeep feeling tipsy.

jeepman whats your spring rates? and how long are your lowers? I used RELA for my YJ and I think it might have pushed the axle to far forward.

jeepman whats your spring rates? and how long are your lowers? I used RELA for my YJ and I think it might have pushed the axle to far forward.

The front springs are 200 over 300 and the length of lower arms are 36"

How are you liking the poly p brackets?

I bought them from Genright. They make it real simple to do a LA upgrade. Upfront there are multiple places you can put them. Out back, the basically go in front of the last TT bolt hole. You could go farther if you wanted I guess.

They are also coming out with a double triangulated rear kit. Kinda interested on the specs on it. The rear is not as far along yet.

I bought them from Genright. They make it real simple to do a LA upgrade. Upfront there are multiple places you can put them. Out back, the basically go in front of the last TT bolt hole. You could go farther if you wanted I guess.

They are also coming out with a double triangulated rear kit. Kinda interested on the specs on it. The rear is not as far along yet.

What's a TT bolt hole?

Tummy tuck, shovel, belly pan....

Those with air bumps, what travel have you been using? 2" or 4"?

Those with air bumps, what travel have you been using? 2" or 4"?

I was using 4" in the rear and then shortened them up to 2". They seem to work fine either way, but make a lot more noise now at 2" when they hit.

I have some 4" on order from FOA... just wanted to make sure they will work out okay.

I have some 4" on order from FOA... just wanted to make sure they will work out okay.

They will be fine as long as you set them up correctly. If they are to close to the bump, they will act like a secondary suspension. That is one reason I shortened mine up to 2", they were pretty much riding on them once the springs settled in!

ordered 4" as well, the BS.

Just got my shipping notice. I should have them by the end of the week. This will be a busy weekend.

We setup the front hydro bumps & limit tabs this weekend.
As usual, it was more work that we thought it was going to be.

ordered 4" as well, the BS.

Just got my shipping notice. I should have them by the end of the week. This will be a busy weekend.

Sweet. Lets see some pics when they arrive! I ordered mine last week, supposedly they are 3 weeks out on their building, so I still have a couple left. :(

I bought them from Genright. They make it real simple to do a LA upgrade. Upfront there are multiple places you can put them. Out back, the basically go in front of the last TT bolt hole. You could go farther if you wanted I guess.

They are also coming out with a double triangulated rear kit. Kinda interested on the specs on it. The rear is not as far along yet.

Gotcha. They are almost the exact same bracket so its hard to tell the difference. I'm gonna run the same on my TJ. Makes it too easy!

I'd like to see those brackets myself. what axles are you running? i'm running a HP44. man it's tough to get all that stuff to fit. thought about mounting the C/O's to the inners but then i figured they might be alittle fatigued with all the stress from the tires and the C/O and have an easier chance to break.

I'd like to see those brackets myself. what axles are you running? i'm running a HP44. man it's tough to get all that stuff to fit. thought about mounting the C/O's to the inners but then i figured they might be alittle fatigued with all the stress from the tires and the C/O and have an easier chance to break.

Don't you live up in Alpine? I am in Santee, come on over!

i'm on deployment for another 2 weeks give or take a day or two. just had CO's check out this morning. expected to fly back to S.D. first week of November to report to some schools over all goal ATGSD.

Should have my shocks tomorrow. Hoping UPS will be on time. SHould get lots of work on my project done this weekend.

You will probably want to adjust those bumps to 2 inch.

Tring to stuff 16 inch shocks under the hood, and utilize 4 inch air bumps will have your jeep pretty high in the air.

I run 14" coilovers, tight to the hood, with 2 inch of body lift, and 3" air bumps. With 5-6" up travel it makes the bumps just about right. Not to to noisy.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/xbninex/Rubi%20Build/P3080718.jpg

For a good build with 16" coilovers and airbumps check out GIS and his build.

I appreciate the info. I checked out GIS's build, sweet build.

I went ahead and changed my order from 16" to 14" coilovers, sticking with the 4" bumps however.

You will probably want to adjust those bumps to 2 inch.

Tring to stuff 16 inch shocks under the hood, and utilize 4 inch air bumps will have your jeep pretty high in the air.

I run 14" coilovers, tight to the hood, with 2 inch of body lift, and 3" air bumps. With 5-6" up travel it makes the bumps just about right. Not to to noisy.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/xbninex/Rubi%20Build/P3080718.jpg

For a good build with 16" coilovers and airbumps check out GIS and his build.



I will agree with fitting 16" under the hood, I have 14" stuffed almost to the hood and I still had to use a 12" upper spring to keep it low.

Should have my shocks tomorrow. Hoping UPS will be on time. SHould get lots of work on my project done this weekend.

So did they show up? :bounce:

So did they show up? :bounce:


Well Kinda.

I got 1 of 3 packages this morning.

Thinking this may be more stretch than I was thinking. You can see the top of one shock on the seat.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/inline6_bucket/Jeep%20LA%20Build/SANY0003-4.jpg

Nriver how much are you stretching your TJ?

Nriver how much are you stretching your TJ?

Not that much. I just took the arms I had fab'd up and threw them on. Wondered where it would end up.

Ill play with the total length tomorrow.

Thought that was a fun pic, I will say I do kinda like the length. Problem is the tank won't fit. Looks that way, I need to get it in.

Long response for the simple answer... 5-7 Inches. Not sure yet. Depends on what fits and looks good. Well, function to.

I ended up stretching mine 4.5" in the rear, 2" up front. Here is just after I pulled it out from doing the rear stretch:

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww74/daviskj/P1040056.jpg

I lengthened the RE control arms, outboarded the shocks, moved the coil bucket back, put an RCI fuel cell in with a new skid plate that is flush with the bottom of the frame. Genright full corner blanks, then I built some tube fenders....

Nice.

Got the total shipment of shocks and bumps today.

Pics at 11, as they say.

Nice.

Got the total shipment of shocks and bumps today.

Pics at 11, as they say.

well :flipoff2:

well :flipoff2:

Fun fun fun