: Sand Blasters


2003_ram
10-07-2009, 10:20 PM
Going to buy one, whats good, whats not, and why? I was looking at a HF one (yeah chinese shit but its cheap:grinpimp: ).
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=93889&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName=

Anybody know if this setup is good? Or is it worth going to a $200-$300 dollar one? I will give it a workout, and I want it to last.

Here's the other one I was looking at ONLY if its worth the money.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200350449_200350449

Let me know, and yes I searched and once I got to 2007 I was tired of wasting time.:shaking:

I bought a HF engine hoist today, on a side note, anybody had good luck with these?

ChiScouter
10-07-2009, 10:57 PM
http://www.pablaster.com/frame2.html

89breaker
10-08-2009, 05:40 AM
Going to buy one, whats good, whats not, and why? I was looking at a HF one (yeah chinese shit but its cheap:grinpimp: ).
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=93889&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName=

Anybody know if this setup is good? Or is it worth going to a $200-$300 dollar one? I will give it a workout, and I want it to last.

Here's the other one I was looking at ONLY if its worth the money.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200350449_200350449

Let me know, and yes I searched and once I got to 2007 I was tired of wasting time.:shaking:

I bought a HF engine hoist today, on a side note, anybody had good luck with these?

On a side note, I am no fan of blowing money when I don't have to but any tool that can kill me, I buy the good one. You don't need a $1,000 engine hoist but unless you are really familiar with tool design, I would buy a decent hoist that you don't have to worry about it holding the load.

I have seen more than one jack fail.

PTSchram
10-08-2009, 06:28 AM
I have two H-F engine hoists. One was stored outside for more than two years. They both get almost daily use and are still keepin' on keepin' on.

I wish the jacks would die so I could replace them with air over hydro.

Sadly, the H-F stuff is a LOT better than the junk I got from Greg Smith Equipment that didn't work right out of the box and was gonna cost me shipping to return for replacement. While Greg Smith may just be in Indianapolis, H-F is on the other side of town!

2003_ram
10-08-2009, 08:34 AM
the HF hoist I got seems built really well, the only thing I figured would happen is the jack start leaking over a little use. We'll see how that goes.

And Chiscouter, checked out the link and thanks, not what I'm really looking for though.

89breaker
10-08-2009, 09:28 AM
I have noticed their equipment getting better but I am still very cautious about tools not made by a solid manufacturer.

I even examine Crapsman stuff now where I used to just grab and go before.

95geo
10-08-2009, 09:43 AM
I thoguth this was a thread on sand blasters?! :laughing:

My dad has a Skat Blast cabinet, he paid a good chunk for it but it does a great job. If you get a large one with a hopper you need a vibrator to keep the media moving around. The best media I have ever used were .020"-.040" or so steel beads. They take a serious volume of air to move but they literally produce a perfect smooth sand cast looking finish to most metals. They will tear up machined surfaces if you arent careful but they make quick work of blasting.

None of this really helps you but that has been my experiences....

Harold Phipps
10-08-2009, 11:05 AM
How are those, (I think) TP sandblast cabinets? They are about a grand with dust collector, and LARGE.
If you want a small one, Grizzley has a dandy cheap (China) blast cabinet, has a port for shop vac/dust collector, looks decent made, (looked at it in their showroom in Springfield,Mo.

gte719p
10-08-2009, 12:01 PM
The best thing I did to my HF hoist was pull out all the pins and replace them with Tractor supply hitch quick pins. $40 well spent.

71PA_Highboy
10-08-2009, 12:19 PM
Buy the TP tools DIY kit and build your own... I did and I have a better unit than I could buy at 3x the price... 27 x48 inside dimensions and it is on wheels so I can move it around if I need to. Shop vac is great as a dust collector, and I can use that for other stuff too.

Good luck.

2003_ram
10-08-2009, 01:35 PM
I think we're on different pages here..... I'm talking like a sand blaster, with a tank, gun and hose to blast a Jeep body, not a cabinet?

Harold Phipps
10-08-2009, 08:56 PM
OOPS, oh well, 71PA highboy gave me idea I hadn't considered.
2003 RAM, all I can say is that blast pot, outside blasting stuff is hateful! I pay someone else to do that for me. Been there, done that, there is a place that charges 100/hr, and they do excellent work, but there are some "backwoods" guys that'll do it for much less. (till their air compressor craps out and they find out how much newer ones are, cuz to REALLY be able to blast up a storm with the rig you want, you are looking at 100 to 200 cfm to keep up and do good work.
You can do it off a shop air compressor, if you have the patience of Job.
And you like watching sand run down your shower drain.

2003_ram
10-08-2009, 10:03 PM
I would rather do it myself because I have a ton of parts (axles, tubs, frames, transmissions, etc) to blast. If I pay someone that will be cutting into my build budget more than I like.

I am starting to lean torwards the $299.99 one just because I have always kind of believed you get what you pay for. Compressor we got is a big on (can't say the exact size :homer: ) But I got 48 hours of work time on weekends!

Harold Phipps
10-09-2009, 07:37 AM
Understand that!
Brother in law lives where sandblast companies aren't as popular, so that would be another reason to HAVE to do it yourself.
There are at least 5 comercial blasters within 20 mile radius of my shop.

cajun666
10-09-2009, 05:23 PM
i have on one these and it works great y pay over 500.00 for one it not like you going to mak emonye with it just use it now and than

2003_ram
10-10-2009, 10:09 PM
i have on one these and it works great y pay over 500.00 for one it not like you going to mak emonye with it just use it now and than

The HF one?

cajun666
10-17-2009, 08:02 PM
The HF one?

yes i ahve these two
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=93889&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName=
paid 190
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=65902&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName=
in around 120 ish

do not use play yard sand it to wet does not come out good

the Soda Blaster work's garet but piss a lot of air out but does work vary good bit slow but works damn good :flipoff2:

suprdave737
10-18-2009, 10:27 PM
One option to consider is to occasionally rent a big tow behind gas air compr 100 to 200 CFM for a weekend if you have a BUNCH of stuff to blast. You will get it done a million times quicker than with your elec shop compresor.

And wear a respirator!

Todd W
10-19-2009, 12:28 AM
soda blasting seems expensive... is it mainly used for soft metals ?

2003_ram
10-19-2009, 09:27 AM
One option to consider is to occasionally rent a big tow behind gas air compr 100 to 200 CFM for a weekend if you have a BUNCH of stuff to blast. You will get it done a million times quicker than with your elec shop compresor.

And wear a respirator!

Forgot about this thread.:homer: I ended up buying the HF one, but not the one I posted, it's the normal air tank looking one, hold 110 lbs, works GREAT, no complaints.

And you got that right, our compressor, even though its still pretty large, can NOT support the blaster. It's blast a little, wait a lot. :shaking:

I wore the mask that came with the blaster, glasses under that, and a breathing mask. Hopefully that's enough, otherwise I better write my will for the 10+ hours I blasted.:grinpimp:

PS: Figured I would throw this in, what I have been using for blasting material is 30 grit Silica Sand. WORKS GREAT. I'm getting mine from lowes, but sure HD and others carry it, $7.00 a bag. Real dry too, no clogging.

Here's the results on 67 year old sheet metal:
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/2003_ram/PA180942.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/2003_ram/PA180941.jpg

soda blasting seems expensive... is it mainly used for soft metals ?

Yeah, and when you generaly don't want a lot of pitting like sand usually gives you. Though like I mentioned above I am having great luck with 30 grit Silica. I bought one bag (40lb) of Soda and paid $25!! Or 100 lbs of silica and paid $7.

cajun666
10-19-2009, 01:56 PM
soda blasting seems expensive... is it mainly used for soft metals ?

it only remove paint and vary lite rust

50lbs $35.oo :eek:

Bo185
10-20-2009, 07:38 PM
One option to consider is to occasionally rent a big tow behind gas air compr 100 to 200 CFM for a weekend if you have a BUNCH of stuff to blast. You will get it done a million times quicker than with your elec shop compresor.

And wear a respirator!That's a pretty good idea I bet it would be nice you could blast all the time. I have a shitty little blaster and it sucked having to wait on the compressor. I gave it away.

Have you done this using a HF blaster? Might get one if the rentals cheap enough.

I had a local guy sandblast a car hauler and its was 500 bucks. Higher than I wanted to pay but it was pretty good work.